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Link Posted: 10/8/2014 9:54:43 PM EDT
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The virus can travel about 3 feet in droplets of a sneeze or cough so it is "airborne".



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So wife is in with doc seeing about an esophageal issue (btw healed) anyway consult is winding down so I ask..so doc...what's your take on Ebola?



1. CDC is lying...its airborne...



2. Research does not show an animal nexus...



3. Its here...and the .gov has no way to prevent its spread other than complete travel ban and quarantine until it dies out.



4. Lots of people are going to die here...



5. Avoid airlines, wash hands often, avoid crowds and ill people.



6. It cost $500,000 to treat patient zero,  a pandemic will destroy our economy...




If it were airborne the death toll would be a LOT steeper.




The virus can travel about 3 feet in droplets of a sneeze or cough so it is "airborne".



The question is how likely?  Also, coughing or sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola.  

 
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 9:56:53 PM EDT
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Casual contact such as a doctor examining a patient can transmit it?
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I have a hard time reconciling the claims that Ebola is as hard or harder to catch than HIV or Hep, yet US trained medical workers are contracting it?





They cant all be having unprotected sex and sharing needles with the patients.
They can't wear the full PPE all the time.  Dr. Kent Brantly thinks he got infected by the patients he saw in the regular clinic who wasn't aware that he or she had Ebola.  






Casual contact such as a doctor examining a patient can transmit it?
Direct, physical contact is required, there's no mention of "casual" or "intimate".

 






How many patients did Dr. Brantly see in his clinic a week, do you imagine?  Probably dozens, if not hundreds.  Think of all the exams, and what kind of contact the doctors have over there with the rampant malaria, chorea and other diseases.  

 
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 10:07:20 PM EDT
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That right there...
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Half of me thinks this is no big deal

But the other half of me thinks that we are in for some shit real soon

The fact that the government isn't doing a damn thing has me worried


That right there...


Obama and the Dems are in charge and the Repubs won't move against him hoping for liberal voter backlash in Nov
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 10:31:14 PM EDT
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Wife has asked I not post pics of her...I will honor that...I am in Jax Fla...he's not an ENT perse...he is a cancer specialist as well..you don't get to be a doctor at the Mayo clinic if you don't have ALL your shit in one sack...most are specialists in multiple feilds with decades of research and clinical experience...when I came several years ago to have a tumor removed from my head I chose Mayo...my surgery was his13,712th not his 53rd procedure like the guy in Va...I trust his OPINION period...I trust this doctor with my wife's life...one other member here has self identified as ANOTHER Mayo doctor AGREEING with everything I posted...poke fun or get real...IDGAF...just posting what a very learned doctor at one of the most prestigious medical facilities on the PLANET spoke to me this very afternoon...
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 10:34:00 PM EDT
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Ebola threads are more contagious than the virus.
Link Posted: 10/8/2014 10:43:17 PM EDT
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This is an important thing to remember.

Ebola is a very dangerous disease, no doubt about it. But still, in West Africa, the disease has only killed a few thousand people so far.
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When the death totals look like flu numbers, i'll being to worry. There's ~3.4k deaths so far in a land with shit health care & people believe it doesn't exist.

 



This is an important thing to remember.

Ebola is a very dangerous disease, no doubt about it. But still, in West Africa, the disease has only killed a few thousand people so far.


I just spoke to a friend tonight, here at work,  who does missionary work in Sierra Leon (sp?).
Her preacher, or whatever he is, has a brother who's church is there.
He stated that 800-1000 are dying a week there.
He said some other stuff, but I'm pushing the CSB limit as it is.
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 2:02:17 AM EDT
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If a doctor tells you Ebola is airborne, time to find a new doctor.
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 2:16:26 AM EDT
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I am coughing, have a fever and a nose bleed...






Should I be worred?

 
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 8:26:55 AM EDT
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Heavy Metal
From the Mayo Clinic Intranet on Ebola Mangement: "Hospitalized patients with suspected Ebola will be placed in Modified Droplet Precautions."

Definition of "Droplet Precautions":Droplet Precautions,
guidelines recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for reducing the risk of droplet transmission of infectious agents.  Droplets are generated from the source person primarily during coughing, sneezing, talking, and performance of certain procedures such as suctioning and bronchoscopy.

So it may be on the ground in WV but the concern for "airborne" exists elsewhere.
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Prob just need to wash the Cheetos off em.
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 8:47:24 AM EDT
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Half of me thinks this is no big deal

But the other half of me thinks that we are in for some shit real soon

The fact that the government isn't doing a damn thing has me worried


That right there...


Yes they are- right now White House aids are furiously trying o figure out how to spin this so that:

A - Bush can be blamed
B- How to have the CDC have massive hard drive failures re Ebola concerns out of the public view
C- How to explain the ludicrous CDC narrative that we must continue to allow free travel to better contain the travel
D- How to convince people again that Obama had no prior knowledge of anything to include C above
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 8:52:14 AM EDT
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What exactly are you medical credentials again?
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:07:40 AM EDT
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The fact that the government isn't doing a damn thing has me worried


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Well, they are ordering the coast guard to start bording more ships looking for infected. I did hear that.

FAA is certainly freaking out whenever they think they've got a passenger with it.

Tells me there is some fear in the government, but nothing is going to stop the flow of commerce and trillions in trade short of it becoming a full blown plague.
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:08:15 AM EDT
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I have met some quacky specialists.  Some of those are very good within their own field.  Just don't let them swerve out of their lane.
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I read it on the internet...it must be true.

I'm not saying you're full of shit but you're full of shit.


I have met some quacky specialists.  Some of those are very good within their own field.  Just don't let them swerve out of their lane.


Sort of like lawyers in that way huh?
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:15:38 AM EDT
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What I learned from this post.

1.  We have a report from a trusted medical facility that says Ebola is bad.
2,  We have a member claiming to be a Mayo clinic Dr, saying Ebola is bad. I see no reason to doubt this claim of profession.

3.  We have everyone else on the site saying NO it is blown out of proportions.
4.  We have a shit ton of experts on here.

While not totally alarmed, I will side with the Ebola is bad crowd until I see how this shakes out.  
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:18:47 AM EDT
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As recently as August 2014 the Canadian Public Health Association said on their website that it is STRONGLY SUSPECTED that Ebola has airborne transmission in humans.


So I guess all those doctors are wrong?

Link to cached page

They changed the page on August 22.
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:20:28 AM EDT
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Fuck the pensions alone for all the .gov officials involved is more than 500k, you know the Mayonaisse clinic isn't the same as th Mayo clinic right

ETa:  this is to point out if you think the costs are only 500k for patient in Dallas lol
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:20:33 AM EDT
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If a doctor tells you Ebola is airborne, time to find a new doctor.
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Only people who hate science think Ebola is not airborne. There is thing called 'research' that proves that Ebola is airborne.

From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne

Nov 21, 2012

When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air.

The team, comprised of researchers from the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease, the University of Manitoba, and the Public Health Agency of Canada, observed transmission of Ebola from pigs to monkeys. They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus. Ebola-Zaire is the deadliest strain, with mortality rates up to 90 percent. The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species.

Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection. In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease.

Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too. It is possible that the first two monkeys infected the other two, but transmission between non-human primates has never before been observed in a lab setting.


Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.

"We just don't have the data to exclude it," said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston.



In late 1989, virus researcher Charles L. Bailey supervised the government's response to an outbreak of Ebola among several dozen rhesus monkeys housed for research in Reston, Va., a suburb of Washington.

What Bailey learned from the episode informs his suspicion that the current strain of Ebola afflicting humans might be spread through tiny liquid droplets propelled into the air by coughing or sneezing.

"We know for a fact that the virus occurs in sputum and no one has ever done a study [disproving that] coughing or sneezing is a viable means of transmitting," he said. Unqualified assurances that Ebola is not spread through the air, Bailey said, are "misleading."


Peters, Russell and Bailey, who in 1989 was deputy commander for research of the Army's Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, in Frederick, Md., said the primates in Reston had appeared to spread Ebola to other monkeys through their breath....

"Those monkeys were dying in a pattern that was certainly suggestive of coughing and sneezing — some sort of aerosol movement," Bailey said. "They were dying and spreading it so quickly from cage to cage. We finally came to the conclusion that the best action was to euthanize them all."



http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-airborne-112112

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:22:24 AM EDT
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"It's airborne"
"Wash your hands"
The dude sounds like a royal faggot.
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:26:18 AM EDT
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We can only hope that there is a destroyer testing a missile in the Arctic giving a ride to a CDC doctor that is searching through the ice for a primordial strain.  

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Anyone else see tractor trailers hauling chain link fence into their city this morning on their commute?
 
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 9:34:18 AM EDT
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it's airborne huh?  so why doesn't EVERYONE in Africa have it?  they drink from the same creek they piss and shit in and only 3400 people have died in the last ~6 months?  i'm not saying your lying, but you're lying.
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Only if you have metal hooks for hands.  
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it's airborne huh?  so why doesn't EVERYONE in Africa have it?  they drink from the same creek they piss and shit in and only 3400 people have died in the last ~6 months?  i'm not saying your lying, but you're lying.
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According to the bio warfare specialist in the DOD it's because the hot climate kills it quickly in the air. Basically the same reason that the flu has a "season" in North america. Cooler air Temps allow the virus to remain viable in the air long enough to be transmitted.

 






The potential for a wider outbreak is actually ggreater in a cooler climate.







Why do you think they are rolling in level A hazmat gear to take suspected patients off planes? Its not because that suit is fun to wear, trust me.




ETA we don't handle HIV patients with the quarantine and suits, yet CDC is essentially  saying that ebola has similar risk of trasmission as other blood borne pathogens. Doesn't that strike anyone as odd?




We handle these suspected patients like they are covered in sarin or VX yet we refuse to limit travel from the source?  We screen them for a fever that they may not exhibit for 21 days after they are infected...then we turn them loose in society? What's the point?







 
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So wife is in with doc seeing about an esophageal issue (btw healed) anyway consult is winding down so I ask..so doc...what's your take on Ebola?

1. CDC is lying...its airborne...

2. Research does not show an animal nexus...

3. Its here...and the .gov has no way to prevent its spread other than complete travel ban and quarantine until it dies out.

4. Lots of people are going to die here...

5. Avoid airlines, wash hands often, avoid crowds and ill people.

6. It cost $500,000 to treat patient zero,  a pandemic will destroy our economy...
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Take your wife to another doctor...the one you have is an absolute moron if he said that.
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I read it on the internet...it must be true.

I'm not saying you're full of shit but you're full of shit.


I have met some quacky specialists.  Some of those are very good within their own field.  Just don't let them swerve out of their lane.


Sort of like lawyers in that way huh?


Nope. Most of us are fucking idiots.
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When the death totals look like flu numbers, i'll being to worry. There's ~3.4k deaths so far in a land with shit health care & people believe it doesn't exist.

 
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That a lot of deaths in a country where the majority of its people stay in their own villages. Imagine if they were Mobil.
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To be fair they did bring the first case of ebola into our country. To say they have done nothing is not really accurate.
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I read it on the internet...it must be true.

I'm not saying you're full of shit but you're full of shit.


I have met some quacky specialists.  Some of those are very good within their own field.  Just don't let them swerve out of their lane.


Sort of like lawyers in that way huh?


Yes. I wouldn't ask a guy who litigates asbestos cases for advice about the tax implications of structuring my cross-border reverse triangular corporate merger, any more than I'd rely on the bar napkin advice of an oncologist about an infectious disease from Africa.
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That a lot of deaths in a country where the majority of its people stay in their own villages. Imagine if they were Mobil.
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That a lot of deaths in a country where the majority of its people stay in their own villages. Imagine if they were Mobil.


They'd probably have a lot more money and better care, with all the oil and refineries and all.
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I agree.  I'd be shocked it it did cost more than that to treat an ebola patient in the U.S.
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While your wife's ENT has a higher capacity to evaluate such things than the average booger picker, I doubt he's any expert on Ebola or epidemiology.



About the only thing in there that I will believe is the $500K figure to treat someone. In fact, that sounds conservative.




I agree.  I'd be shocked it it did cost more than that to treat an ebola patient in the U.S.
I read a news article that said the company that cleaned up the apartment is charging $100K for the apartment not counting the other places they cleaned.
 
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So wife is in with doc seeing about an esophageal issue (btw healed) anyway consult is winding down so I ask..so doc...what's your take on Ebola?



1. CDC is lying...its airborne...



2. Research does not show an animal nexus...



3. Its here...and the .gov has no way to prevent its spread other than complete travel ban and quarantine until it dies out.



4. Lots of people are going to die here...



5. Avoid airlines, wash hands often, avoid crowds and ill people.



6. It cost $500,000 to treat patient zero,  a pandemic will destroy our economy...
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Dr. Alex Jones?

 
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They'd probably have a lot more money and better care, with all the oil and refineries and all.
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When the death totals look like flu numbers, i'll being to worry. There's ~3.4k deaths so far in a land with shit health care & people believe it doesn't exist.

 



That a lot of deaths in a country where the majority of its people stay in their own villages. Imagine if they were Mobil.


They'd probably have a lot more money and better care, with all the oil and refineries and all.



Yeah shit you got me it.
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Don't worry, they'll fire up the FEMA train soon enough.
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So is this really only the 3rd case in the US?  I mostly glance over the GD thread titles here in GD I thought there were many more infected.
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Half of me thinks this is no big deal
But the other half of me thinks that we are in for some shit real soon
The fact that the government isn't doing a damn thing has me worried

To be fair they did bring the first case of ebola into our country. To say they have done nothing is not really accurate.






 


We also sent 3000 US troops of there to fix it!




That should help some


 
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I'm sitting on a plane reading this.
I can almost feel the Ebola entering my body right now.

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Having a M.D. doesn't make you immune from being either full of shit or nutty as a squirrel turd.
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Check for hands on your shoulders.  It's not Ebola.
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Don't push back, because that would be gay.

For those who don't believe Ebola is airborne. I guess you know more than US Army virologists and researchers who study Ebola.

Ignorance is not a barrier method.

EBOV (Ebola Virus), along with several other highly pathogenic agents, has the potential to be used in biowarfare as aerosolized weapons and are therefore classified as biological select agents and toxins (BSATs).1,11,28,32,45,69


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/

According to the Center for Aerobiological Sciences, U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland:

(1) Ebola has an aerosol stability that is comparable to Influenza-A

(2) Much like Flu, Airborne Ebola transmissions need Winter type conditions to maximize Aerosol infection


Demonstration of fatal aerosol transmission of this virus in monkeys reinforces the importance of taking appropriate precautions to prevent its potential aerosol transmission to humans.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/
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other than the cases medivaced here on purpose, there has only been 1 case and he is dead, so right mow we have 0 cases.
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So wife is in with doc seeing about an esophageal issue (btw healed) anyway consult is winding down so I ask..so doc...what's your take on Ebola?

1. CDC is lying...its airborne...
2. Research does not show an animal nexus...
3. Its here...and the .gov has no way to prevent its spread other than complete travel ban and quarantine until it dies out.
4. Lots of people are going to die here...
5. Avoid airlines, wash hands often, avoid crowds and ill people.
6. It cost $500,000 to treat patient zero,  a pandemic will destroy our economy...
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2002-2004 I was stationed at Ft. Detrick, lived across the street from USAMRID, and dated one of the scientists (virologist to be specific) studying the potential weaponization of Ebola at USAMRID.  Lots of crazy talk going on, but one thing I do know for sure...Ebola most certainly is NOT airborne.  All the other stuff stated above I have no direct knowledge of...but I'd love to see the bill for patient zero.
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other than the cases medivaced here on purpose, there has only been 1 case and he is dead, so right mow we have 0 cases.
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other than the cases medivaced here on purpose, there has only been 1 case and he is dead, so right mow we have 0 cases.



Well 2 cases for sure right? The guy in Texas and the guy they brought in knowing he had Ebola.
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Don't push back, because that would be gay.

For those who don't believe Ebola is airborne. I guess you know more than US Army virologists and researchers who study Ebola.

Ignorance is not a barrier method.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/





http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/
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Don't push back, because that would be gay.

For those who don't believe Ebola is airborne. I guess you know more than US Army virologists and researchers who study Ebola.

Ignorance is not a barrier method.

EBOV (Ebola Virus), along with several other highly pathogenic agents, has the potential to be used in biowarfare as aerosolized weapons and are therefore classified as biological select agents and toxins (BSATs).1,11,28,32,45,69


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/

According to the Center for Aerobiological Sciences, U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland:

(1) Ebola has an aerosol stability that is comparable to Influenza-A

(2) Much like Flu, Airborne Ebola transmissions need Winter type conditions to maximize Aerosol infection


Demonstration of fatal aerosol transmission of this virus in monkeys reinforces the importance of taking appropriate precautions to prevent its potential aerosol transmission to humans.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182/


There is a difference between potential for aerogenic infection and the likelihood of aerosol transmissibility.  Of course, you would have to actually read the article first.  


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Hospital bill for deceased Texas Ebola patient nearly $1,000 an hour

Caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, the Dallas Ebola patient, may cost as much as $500,000, a bill that his hospital is unlikely to ever collect.


http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20141008/hospital-bill-for-deceased-texas-ebola-patient-nearly-1000-an-hour

Uninsured Ebola patients have the potential to bankrupt many small hospitals.
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At that point I would have asked to see his medical degree, license ... and started looking for a new doctor.
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So wife is in with doc seeing about an esophageal issue (btw healed) anyway consult is winding down so I ask..so doc...what's your take on Ebola?

1. CDC is lying...its airborne...

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At that point I would have asked to see his medical degree, license ... and started looking for a new doctor.



I thought the World Health Organization said

"It can be caught through  the Air but it is not Airborne"
Link Posted: 10/9/2014 10:42:43 AM EDT
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Well 2 cases for sure right? The guy in Texas and the guy they brought in knowing he had Ebola.
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So is this really only the 3rd case in the US?  I mostly glance over the GD thread titles here in GD I thought there were many more infected.


other than the cases medivaced here on purpose, there has only been 1 case and he is dead, so right mow we have 0 cases.



Well 2 cases for sure right? The guy in Texas and the guy they brought in knowing he had Ebola.


There have been two brought to the University of Nebraska Medical Center and at least three to Emory.
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