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What it looks like facing north when at the beach in Eesti at 11:00PM this time of year. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/56204/3CA38AC5-8A64-44EA-8FCC-BFEA2E339A3A-595364.JPG This really screws with people from southern latitudes. View Quote |
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OP, start another thread asking why there are two high tides and two low tides per day.
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In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark. How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it View Quote The earth rotates through 360 degrees in 24 hours (high noon to high noon, you can test this at home- you just have to go outside) 360° / 24 hours = 15 Degrees per hour longitude is divided in to degrees, minutes and seconds; based on the rotational period of the sun. Central Ohio (downtown Columbus) has a longitude of -83° The North Carolina (randomly picked Beaufort) -76.6° There's a longitudinal difference of 6.4° 6.4/15 = .42 hours or ~26 minutes Looking at today's sunset for both 9:04 Columbus and 8:24 in Beaufort is 40 minutes apart, the extra 15 minutes is because of the difference in latitude. So your 9:15 to 9:15 pm comparison is actually seeing conditions separated by 40 minutes. To test this, watch the sunset in ohio, then wait 40 minutes and see if it's roughly the same darkness as you remembered from NC. Being a little discouraged that the above math didn't quite work out, I checked the sunset times for Columbus and Beaufort on March 20 (the Vernal Equinox) and got 7:44 Columbus, and 7:18 Beaufort, A difference of 26 minutes. So on an equinox the sun will set in Beaufort, then 26 minutes later it will set in Columbus. |
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Haha, nice shitposting OP. There is a fine line to walk, if you act too dumb it's too easy to tell. Too make it believable to you have to act like you are at least as smart as even the dumbest person we've ever met.
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Time zones work in one hour increments, the rotation of the earth is continuous, not incremental. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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This. The smooth motion and lack of ticking let you know that it's the real Earth and not a cheap knockoff. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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yes but they're the same time zones I thought that was the whole point of time zones |
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Haha, nice shitposting OP. There is a fine line to walk, if you act too dumb it's too easy to tell. Too make it believable to you have to act like you are at least as smart as even the dumbest person we've ever met. View Quote That's why I always laugh at people when they try to "play dumb" online... if it works they look dumb, if it don't they look dumb. |
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In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark. How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it View Quote |
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But, when the telegraph came around and when railroads became a thing (Because railroads have to be strictly scheduled) everyone decided to standardize their times. To keep clocks at least somewhat tied to the sun time zones were invented. View Quote BUT, I understand you are breaking it down, Barney style. |
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Spot when the Sun sets - QI Series 8 Ep 15 Hypnosis, Hallucinations & Hysteria Preview - BBC One |
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It depends on how tall you are and how high the thing you are looking at is.
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Quoted: Ohio and nc are same time zone View Quote God help you if you ever go to China, where they have one time zone for the entire country. I won't even begin to try to explain the difference you would see there. |
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JC. I am about to go and buy a coloring book of the US and a box of crayons. A cop you say? View Quote |
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Quoted: FFS lets reason through this... The earth rotates through 360 degrees in 24 hours (high noon to high noon, you can test this at home- you just have to go outside) 360° / 24 hours = 15 Degrees per hour longitude is divided in to degrees, minutes and seconds; based on the rotational period of the sun. Central Ohio (downtown Columbus) has a longitude of -83° The North Carolina (randomly picked Beaufort) -76.6° There's a longitudinal difference of 6.4° 6.4/15 = .42 hours or ~26 minutes Looking at today's sunset for both 9:04 Columbus and 8:24 in Beaufort is 40 minutes apart, the extra 15 minutes is because of the difference in latitude. So your 9:15 to 9:15 pm comparison is actually seeing conditions separated by 40 minutes. To test this, watch the sunset in ohio, then wait 40 minutes and see if it's roughly the same darkness as you remembered from NC. Being a little discouraged that the above math didn't quite work out, I checked the sunset times for Columbus and Beaufort on March 20 (the Vernal Equinox) and got 7:44 Columbus, and 7:18 Beaufort, A difference of 26 minutes. So on an equinox the sun will set in Beaufort, then 26 minutes later it will set in Columbus. View Quote |
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Quoted: Thanks for this. This kinda makes the most sense to me. But it still doesn't explain why they wouldn't make them different time zones if the difference is that extreme View Quote Also have you ever wondered how you can jump and land in roughly the same spot if the Earth is spinning 460 meters per second? |
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Quoted: How many hundreds of time zones would you like? Also have you ever wondered how you can jump and land in roughly the same spot if the Earth is spinning 460 meters per second? View Quote |
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LOL right? That's why I always laugh at people when they try to "play dumb" online... if it works they look dumb, if it don't they look dumb. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Haha, nice shitposting OP. There is a fine line to walk, if you act too dumb it's too easy to tell. Too make it believable to you have to act like you are at least as smart as even the dumbest person we've ever met. That's why I always laugh at people when they try to "play dumb" online... if it works they look dumb, if it don't they look dumb. |
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In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark. How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it View Quote |
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Let's go back to 5th grade earth science. Rotation of the earth and all.
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Latitude and longitude both alter daily 'sun time.'
Look at a table for sunrise and sunset times. Time zones are a compromise for longitude and further corrections for actual longitude and latitude needing to be applied. |
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OP, start another thread asking why there are two high tides and two low tides per day. I didn’t grow up near the ocean so I had a hard time understanding at first. |
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Trolling or actually that stupid, my opinion of the OP has hit a new low, which is an impressive feat.
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Two things in play, how far north you are and how far west you are. The further north you go the sun hits the atmosphere at a greater angle. This scatters the light more resulting in much longer twilight. When I went to El Salvador in the early 1990's it was a shock how short the twilight was. The sun sets and about 10 minutes later, it's dark. If I have a clear point of view north from where I live can see a wee sliver of daylight on the northern horizon almost all night long right now as north of the Arctic Circle the suns never sets at this time of the year.
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So by some of your guy logic I should be able to ride a Zip line and see the sun reversing as I ride? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: How many hundreds of time zones would you like? Also have you ever wondered how you can jump and land in roughly the same spot if the Earth is spinning 460 meters per second? Wow. |
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In on 4!!
Did we figure out that the sun doesn't jump forward every hour to make the time zones work out? |
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Man, how did I miss this thread
OP asking about the sunset, probably already sent a complaint to the BBB Tag for later reading |
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There are two factors which may alter the time of sunset.
1) The Earth rotates from West to East, so as you travel East, you are "forward" on the spin, meaning that you will reach any given orientation relative to an outside object (stars, the Sun) faster. So as you travel East, you get earlier sunsets and sunrises. This equates to about a thousand miles per hour at the equator (less so as you move away from it), so 100 miles farther East would put you 6 minutes ahead as far as Sunrise, Sunset, etc. go. 2) The Earth's tilt relative to its path around the Sun results in a tilted line between that area that is dark vs. that area that is lit by the sun, and that line (the demarcation line) changes its tilt. At the Spring and Fall Solstices, that line is essentially directly North/South. During the summer, more of the Northern Hemisphere is exposed to light, and the demarcation lines are tilted such that the "sunrise line" is farther West as you move North, and the "sunset line" is farther East. This means that as the Earth rotates, if you are farther North, the Earth doesn't have to rotate around as far to get to sunrise as it does farther South, and correspondingly has to rotate farther to reach sunset. The result is the varying lengths of days and nights during the seasons, which are more pronounced the farther you get from the Equator (which has the pretty much the same length day throughout the year). During the Winter, the opposite is true, and of course the seasons are reversed in the Southern Hemisphere (i.e. it is Winter right now in the Southern Hemisphere, with shorter days and longer nights). Mike |
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