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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:18:42 PM EST
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You can push your CNN style analysis of what happened, but it's a lie. She was part of an armed mob who went there to attack the rally. They had engaged in violence throughout the day and immediately prior to the incident other members of the mob attacked his car. She got run over, tough break for the commie cow. ETA: Corrected to note that the vehicles Fields struck were not moving before he struck them. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:19:14 PM EST
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You don't need an explicit admission of intent, but you need at least some iota of an indicator that it was engaged in to further a political cause. Or is this like the whole "all PIV sex is rape" standard feminists use? Maybe all violence committed by whites against brown people is terrorism now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
You don't need an explicit admission of intent, but you need at least some iota of an indicator that it was engaged in to further a political cause. Or is this like the whole "all PIV sex is rape" standard feminists use? Maybe all violence committed by whites against brown people is terrorism now. Quoted:
Exactly, you'd have to go all the way back to OKC at least, to find anything that could even be remotely linked to some sort of white supremacist violence. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:19:38 PM EST
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So they made the real nazis go underground instead of out in the open where their IPs can be traced?
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:23:59 PM EST
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You glazed over the part about being attacked by an armed mob. edit pd's office found a conflict of interest, ha ha I bet, every lawyer in a 100 miles was looking for an excuse to dodge being forced to represent this guy http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/charlottesville-white-nationalist-protests-violence/index.html he went to Dachua as a kid and said "magic happened here"  https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/14/james-fields-nazi-murder-charlottesville-magic/23077474/
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:24:28 PM EST
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What evidence do you have that Heather Heyer was part of an armed mob? The video I have seen, including overhead drone video, shows Heyer was in a group of people milling about in the street. This group was not attacking anybody when Fields rammed two other vehicles into it. These two other vehicles were passing through the group just before Fields rammed the rearmost vehicle. I have not seen any evidence that the group was attacking either of these two vehicles. The only evidence I have seen that James Fields's vehicle was attacked is a picture of man hitting Fields's rear bumper with a small, wooden flagpole. It is not completely clear whether this happened before or after Fields accelerated into the rearmost vehicle moving through the crowd Heyer was part of. From what I have seen, it happened after Fields accelerated. Regardless, somebody hitting Fields's bumper with a stick is not justification to kill anyone, much less someone that did not attack Fields or his vehicle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can push your CNN style analysis of what happened, but it's a lie. She was part of an armed mob who went there to attack the rally. They had engaged in violence throughout the day and immediately prior to the incident other members of the mob attacked his car. She got run over, tough break for the commie cow. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:25:51 PM EST
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Not to mention that the leftist media has an interest in promoting the shutdown of Stormfornt because it provides weight to the narrative that they're only going after "hate speech". Morons who still believe CNN and NPR are real news organizations see the stories about Stormfront and consciously or subconsciously assume that other voices being silenced must also be guilty of being secret Nazis What do you consider to be a real news organization? |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:26:42 PM EST
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Huh, I found plenty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't need an explicit admission of intent, but you need at least some iota of an indicator that it was engaged in to further a political cause. Or is this like the whole "all PIV sex is rape" standard feminists use? Maybe all violence committed by whites against brown people is terrorism now. Quoted:
Exactly, you'd have to go all the way back to OKC at least, to find anything that could even be remotely linked to some sort of white supremacist violence. Quoted:
What neo-Nazi organizations are actively engaging in domestic terrorism? |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:29:49 PM EST
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Except he wasn't, he accelerated into a crowd and people threw stuff at him as he went by. he went to Dachua as a kid and said "magic happened here" https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/14/james-fields-nazi-murder-charlottesville-magic/23077474/Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You glazed over the part about being attacked by an armed mob. he went to Dachua as a kid and said "magic happened here" https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/14/james-fields-nazi-murder-charlottesville-magic/23077474/All you keep doing Is engaging in character assassination when no one is even defending his character in the first place. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:31:37 PM EST
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So she was milling about in the middle of an armed mob, but she wasn't "part" of the armed mob? A significant percentage of the people around her had melee weapons and attacked the car both prior to and immediately after the collision. 
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:32:23 PM EST
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Why do you say that they are not real news organizations? What do you consider to be a real news organization? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not to mention that the leftist media has an interest in promoting the shutdown of Stormfornt because it provides weight to the narrative that they're only going after "hate speech". Morons who still believe CNN and NPR are real news organizations see the stories about Stormfront and consciously or subconsciously assume that other voices being silenced must also be guilty of being secret Nazis What do you consider to be a real news organization? I find the best sources now are independent journalists who go to events on the ground, take their own video and give their own accounts. They are often less influenced by controlled media biases than the larger organizations. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:35:01 PM EST
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These days there aren't many left, I'm not sure I'd categorically declare any news outlet to be completely trustworthy anymore. I find the best sources now are independent journalists who go to events on the ground, take their own video and give their own accounts. They are often less influenced by controlled media biases than the larger organizations. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not to mention that the leftist media has an interest in promoting the shutdown of Stormfornt because it provides weight to the narrative that they're only going after "hate speech". Morons who still believe CNN and NPR are real news organizations see the stories about Stormfront and consciously or subconsciously assume that other voices being silenced must also be guilty of being secret Nazis What do you consider to be a real news organization? I find the best sources now are independent journalists who go to events on the ground, take their own video and give their own accounts. They are often less influenced by controlled media biases than the larger organizations. Come on now ole chap.......fill in that blank. Name some names. Don't be shy. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:35:10 PM EST
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So she was milling about in the middle of an armed mob, but she wasn't "part" of the armed mob? A significant percentage of the people around her had melee weapons and attacked the car both prior to and immediately after the collision. http://i.imgur.com/3QHvOFx.jpg You're going to make me post the video where his car gets hit by the guy on the sidewalk, and then he accelerates and hits the crowd, then within seconds people are smashing out his windows with clubs? We've all seen it, but you're going to pretend it doesn exist? |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:36:40 PM EST
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Yes, we're all aware he is an asshole. All you keep doing Is engaging in character assassination when no one is even defending his character in the first place. 
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:37:03 PM EST
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Real news = ????? Come on now ole chap.......fill in that blank. Name some names. Don't be shy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not to mention that the leftist media has an interest in promoting the shutdown of Stormfornt because it provides weight to the narrative that they're only going after "hate speech". Morons who still believe CNN and NPR are real news organizations see the stories about Stormfront and consciously or subconsciously assume that other voices being silenced must also be guilty of being secret Nazis What do you consider to be a real news organization? I find the best sources now are independent journalists who go to events on the ground, take their own video and give their own accounts. They are often less influenced by controlled media biases than the larger organizations. Come on now ole chap.......fill in that blank. Name some names. Don't be shy. Lots of good people but none of them work for the big media outlets. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:38:15 PM EST
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Are you serious? You're going to make me post the video where his car gets hit by the guy on the sidewalk, and then he accelerates and hits the crowd, then within seconds people are smashing out his windows with clubs? We've all seen it, but you're going to pretend it doesn exist? |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:39:47 PM EST
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Windows look pretty good in that picture where people are leaping out of his way Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you serious? You're going to make me post the video where his car gets hit by the guy on the sidewalk, and then he accelerates and hits the crowd, then within seconds people are smashing out his windows with clubs? We've all seen it, but you're going to pretend it doesn exist? Alright I'll get the damn video but I know you've all seen it already, this is just pathetic that I have to link it again.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:41:11 PM EST
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Wow, just wow. Alright I'll get the damn video but I know you've all seen it already, this is just pathetic that I have to link it again. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:43:09 PM EST
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You glazed over the part about being attacked by an armed mob. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:43:40 PM EST
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The Rebel Media was pretty good until it imploded, Mike Cernovich, Lauren Southern, Tim Poole actually seems solid these days. Lots of good people but none of them work for the big media outlets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not to mention that the leftist media has an interest in promoting the shutdown of Stormfornt because it provides weight to the narrative that they're only going after "hate speech". Morons who still believe CNN and NPR are real news organizations see the stories about Stormfront and consciously or subconsciously assume that other voices being silenced must also be guilty of being secret Nazis What do you consider to be a real news organization? I find the best sources now are independent journalists who go to events on the ground, take their own video and give their own accounts. They are often less influenced by controlled media biases than the larger organizations. Come on now ole chap.......fill in that blank. Name some names. Don't be shy. Lots of good people but none of them work for the big media outlets. Oy vey....Can't even spell Tim's name correctly. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:45:37 PM EST
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 Enhanced footage/angle Charlottesville VA, |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:45:54 PM EST
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Are you serious? You're going to make me post the video where his car gets hit by the guy on the sidewalk, and then he accelerates and hits the crowd, then within seconds people are smashing out his windows with clubs? We've all seen it, but you're going to pretend it doesn exist? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So she was milling about in the middle of an armed mob, but she wasn't "part" of the armed mob? A significant percentage of the people around her had melee weapons and attacked the car both prior to and immediately after the collision. http://i.imgur.com/3QHvOFx.jpg You're going to make me post the video where his car gets hit by the guy on the sidewalk, and then he accelerates and hits the crowd, then within seconds people are smashing out his windows with clubs? We've all seen it, but you're going to pretend it doesn exist? I have amended my previous posts on this matter to reflect the additional video evidence that I just watched, which does not support (to my eyes) the idea that the vehicle was under attack. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:47:31 PM EST
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His front window was broken, looks like by a body, then when he reversed after his attack people hit the car. You can see the intact windows during his forward movement
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:49:38 PM EST
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I'm actually going to ask you to post that video. I just went and reviewed a bunch of videos of the event, and it appears that the Challenger drove into the crowd unprovoked. I have amended my previous posts on this matter to reflect the additional video evidence that I just watched, which does not support (to my eyes) the idea that the vehicle was under attack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So she was milling about in the middle of an armed mob, but she wasn't "part" of the armed mob? A significant percentage of the people around her had melee weapons and attacked the car both prior to and immediately after the collision. http://i.imgur.com/3QHvOFx.jpg You're going to make me post the video where his car gets hit by the guy on the sidewalk, and then he accelerates and hits the crowd, then within seconds people are smashing out his windows with clubs? We've all seen it, but you're going to pretend it doesn exist? I have amended my previous posts on this matter to reflect the additional video evidence that I just watched, which does not support (to my eyes) the idea that the vehicle was under attack. He's coming down the street, he brakes hard and slows down, there are people on both sides of him that he could have easily hit but didn't. Then he is attacked by a man from the driver's side of his car, which is what prompts him to accelerate and hit the crowd. Then before the dust has even cleared half a dozen or more people with weapons swarm the vehicle, there's no way that's possible unless they were already armed before the crash. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:49:42 PM EST
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He's just repeating the fake news narrative. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:51:04 PM EST
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I posted it above. He's coming down the street, he brakes hard and slows down, there are people on both sides of him that he could have easily hit but didn't. Then he is attacked by a man from the driver's side of his car, which is what prompts him to accelerate and hit the crowd. Then before the dust has even cleared half a dozen or more people with weapons swarm the vehicle, there's no way that's possible unless they were already armed before the crash. He couldn't even see that his car had been hit, not to mention that's no justification for plowing into people
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:52:13 PM EST
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I posted it above. He's coming down the street, he brakes hard and slows down, there are people on both sides of him that he could have easily hit but didn't. Then he is attacked by a man from the driver's side of his car, which is what prompts him to accelerate and hit the crowd. Then before the dust has even cleared half a dozen or more people with weapons swarm the vehicle, there's no way that's possible unless they were already armed before the crash. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:52:58 PM EST
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Show me who attacked him before he started trying to run anyone over? You can see one guy hit his bumper with a stick on the way in, looks like his front windshield is broken after he hit someone then the crowd moves in on him after he's run a bunch of people over and rear ended two cars, he reverses and runs over people who were moving in on him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's just repeating the fake news narrative.
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:54:22 PM EST
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The guy who his rear bumper with a stick as he went by? He couldn't even see that his car had been hit, not to mention that's no justification for plowing into peopleQuote HistoryQuoted:
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I posted it above. He's coming down the street, he brakes hard and slows down, there are people on both sides of him that he could have easily hit but didn't. Then he is attacked by a man from the driver's side of his car, which is what prompts him to accelerate and hit the crowd. Then before the dust has even cleared half a dozen or more people with weapons swarm the vehicle, there's no way that's possible unless they were already armed before the crash. He couldn't even see that his car had been hit, not to mention that's no justification for plowing into people
Oh man so now you're offering your expert judgement on when it is and isn't reasonable to fear for your life when a crowd of known violent protesters starts attacking your car. Priceless. Literally anyone except this guy and people would say ANTIFA was in the wrong, but this guy is a racist so it's ok for ANTIFA to bash the fash. Good god. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:55:19 PM EST
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You just said show me who attacked him and then identified exactly who it was that attacked him. 
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:56:38 PM EST
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Oh man so now you're offering your expert judgement on when it is and isn't reasonable to fear for your life when a crowd of known violent protesters starts attacking your car. Priceless. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:57:19 PM EST
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So he accelerated into a crowd of people because a guy hit the bumper of his car with a stick. Hope his lawyer comes up with something better than that Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You just said show me who attacked him and then identified exactly who it was that attacked him. Which it may well have. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:58:09 PM EST
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You mean the ones who you mistakenly thought smashed in his windows and caused the attack? Now you're changing it to "a guy hit his car with a furring strip so he ran everyone down" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh man so now you're offering your expert judgement on when it is and isn't reasonable to fear for your life when a crowd of known violent protesters starts attacking your car. Priceless. I said he was attacked, hit the crowd, and then they swarmed him and smashed out his windows. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:04:08 PM EST
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No the mistake was in your reading. I said he was attacked, hit the crowd, and then they swarmed him and smashed out his windows. edit I know some of these videos were not posted when you initially kind of staked out your position |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:04:12 PM EST
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I posted it above. He's coming down the street, he brakes hard and slows down, there are people on both sides of him that he could have easily hit but didn't. Then he is attacked by a man from the driver's side of his car, which is what prompts him to accelerate and hit the crowd. Then before the dust has even cleared half a dozen or more people with weapons swarm the vehicle, there's no way that's possible unless they were already armed before the crash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So she was milling about in the middle of an armed mob, but she wasn't "part" of the armed mob? A significant percentage of the people around her had melee weapons and attacked the car both prior to and immediately after the collision. http://i.imgur.com/3QHvOFx.jpg You're going to make me post the video where his car gets hit by the guy on the sidewalk, and then he accelerates and hits the crowd, then within seconds people are smashing out his windows with clubs? We've all seen it, but you're going to pretend it doesn exist? I have amended my previous posts on this matter to reflect the additional video evidence that I just watched, which does not support (to my eyes) the idea that the vehicle was under attack. He's coming down the street, he brakes hard and slows down, there are people on both sides of him that he could have easily hit but didn't. Then he is attacked by a man from the driver's side of his car, which is what prompts him to accelerate and hit the crowd. Then before the dust has even cleared half a dozen or more people with weapons swarm the vehicle, there's no way that's possible unless they were already armed before the crash. I do agree with you, and the narrator of the video that you posted, that the Challenger could have hurt/killed more people had he veered to one side. It is also obvious that the mob was armed. Were the pedestrians marching in the street acting under some sort of permit that legally allowed them to block the roadway? If not, could the driver have been living out the common ARFCOM wish to just drive right through an unlawful human obstruction? ETA: In short, I think this was a bad smash. From ALL of the videos I've seen today, it appears that the person driving the Challenger was doing so with the intent to harm or kill, while being under zero duress. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:08:07 PM EST
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So she was milling about in the middle of an armed mob, but she wasn't "part" of the armed mob? A significant percentage of the people around her had melee weapons and attacked the car both prior to and immediately after the collision. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:10:50 PM EST
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That was the original question that started that whole line of conversation, if you recall. But you'll deflect and move the post goal yet again. So will your claim be that some known organization has to be directly involved in the planning and execution? What and how many people constitutes the organization? We'll delve into the intricacies of your definition of terrorism. And let me guess, just being a shitbird racist isn't political, right? So let's go to the legal definition of the intent involved: - to intimidate or coerce a civilian population - to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion - to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping So murdering someone participating in a political protest that you oppose isn't terrorism? Attacking and murdering people of a different race/ethnicty in order to keep your own race "pure" isn't terrorism? Targeting and attacking religious organizations and their members isn't terrorism? |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:11:57 PM EST
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To get to where you are on this, you have to have zero regard for any objective meaning of the term "armed mob" or the word "attack" or even the actual chronological order of events. In other words, you have to deny reality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So she was milling about in the middle of an armed mob, but she wasn't "part" of the armed mob? A significant percentage of the people around her had melee weapons and attacked the car both prior to and immediately after the collision. A mob of people armed with weapons who have been attacking people all day, in no way meets the definition of an armed mob attacking people. Crazy pills. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:14:14 PM EST
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Ha ha, she was standing around when a sadsack Nazi who lived alone with his cat and had no friends, except maybe 'that black friend" his poor mom mentioned, ran her over, she wasn't attacking him. "The scary kid who didn't take his meds", not exactly a shining example of the master race. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:15:45 PM EST
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So we have certified proof he was a card carrying Nazi? I mean he was at least dressed in a Nazi uniform right? |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:17:03 PM EST
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So someone hit his bumper with a stick, he rammed a shitload of people in self defense over one guy hitting his bumper, who was behind him, and then after killing a girl and wounding a bunch of other people he got his windows broken, so it was self defense. edit I know some of these videos were not posted when you initially kind of staked out your position Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No the mistake was in your reading. I said he was attacked, hit the crowd, and then they swarmed him and smashed out his windows. edit I know some of these videos were not posted when you initially kind of staked out your position Totality of the circumstances or something similar? If he'd already been assaulted prior to the incident in the video, which is almost certain as ANTIFA had been actively attacking people throughout the day, then he was likely already on high alert for any more attacks. From inside his vehicle he'd have greatly reduced awareness of what's going on outside, all he'd know for sure is there was someone attacking his car somehow, the details would not be readily apparent and to demand he know them is unreasonable. He may have overreacted to his car being hit but that is not the same as a premeditated terrorist attack like the media was trying to portray it. If he'd set out to kill people he could have driven down the sidewalk instead and killed dozens. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:18:13 PM EST
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He said Dachau was a magical place and said Hitler was awesome etc. I guess since the Nazi party is gone he could only be a "Nazi Aficionado" |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:18:54 PM EST
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So we have certified proof he was a card carrying Nazi? I mean he was at least dressed in a Nazi uniform right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ha ha, she was standing around when a sadsack Nazi who lived alone with his cat and had no friends, except maybe 'that black friend" his poor mom mentioned, ran her over, she wasn't attacking him. "The scary kid who didn't take his meds", not exactly a shining example of the master race. ETA: Fields is in the middle.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:21:12 PM EST
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I'm asking because I don't know: What does the symbol on the shield that James Fields Jr. mean? I recognize the one on the far right as being associated with Daily Stormer. ETA: Fields is in the middle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/185296/James_Fields_Jr-292751.JPG vanguard america, they say they don't know the guy and just gave him the shield |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:22:54 PM EST
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Yes of course you're correct. A mob of people armed with weapons who have been attacking people all day, in no way meets the definition of an armed mob attacking people. Crazy pills. TMZ link to video |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:25:03 PM EST
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What's that line when there are police shootings? Totality of the circumstances or something similar? If he'd already been assaulted prior to the incident in the video, which is almost certain as ANTIFA had been actively attacking people throughout the day, then he was likely already on high alert for any more attacks. From inside his vehicle he'd have greatly reduced awareness of what's going on outside, all he'd know for sure is there was someone attacking his car somehow, the details would not be readily apparent and to demand he know them is unreasonable. He may have overreacted to his car being hit but that is not the same as a premeditated terrorist attack like the media was trying to portray it. If he'd set out to kill people he could have driven down the sidewalk instead and killed dozens. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:25:15 PM EST
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These days there aren't many left, I'm not sure I'd categorically declare any news outlet to be completely trustworthy anymore. I find the best sources now are independent journalists who go to events on the ground, take their own video and give their own accounts. They are often less influenced by controlled media biases than the larger organizations. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:28:43 PM EST
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He said Dachau was a magical place and said Hitler was awesome etc. I guess since the Nazi party is gone he could only be a "Nazi Aficionado" What he did was wrong, criminal, and I doubt he gets off but if he was anything in the way of a Nazi was the wanna be one, not that he was one. Like most of us here on GD are Tier 1 operators. I think he was harassed at the event, he was amped up, turned down the wrong street, went oh shit and was going to do a AR15.Com drive maneuver and paniced. Killed a antifa wanna be. 2 lives ruined because of 2 causes that should have had better sense. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:30:21 PM EST
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I'm asking because I don't know: What does the symbol on the shield that James Fields Jr. mean? I recognize the one on the far right as being associated with Daily Stormer. ETA: Fields is in the middle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/185296/James_Fields_Jr-292751.JPG vanguard america, they say they don't know the guy and just gave him the shield |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:30:37 PM EST
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I think we all know the kid was a little touched from his school teachers description, the fact (I think it's a fact) was flush from .mil for some mental health issues. What he did was wrong, criminal, and I doubt he gets off but if he was anything in the way of a Nazi was the wanna be one, not that he was one. Like most of us here on GD are Tier 1 operators. I think he was harassed at the event, he was amped up, turned down the wrong street, went oh shit and was going to do a AR15.Com drive maneuver and paniced. Killed a antifa wanna be. 2 lives ruined because of 2 causes that should have had better sense.
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Posted: 8/28/2017 3:31:45 PM EST
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I cannot picture a scenario where I hear 'boink" from someone hitting my bumper with a stick and I think "Full speed ahead! Damn the pedestrians and cars stopped ahead of me blocking the road!" It's not like the guy started shooting at him with a rifle and he had reason to panic and just plow ahead regardless of casualties. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's that line when there are police shootings? Totality of the circumstances or something similar? If he'd already been assaulted prior to the incident in the video, which is almost certain as ANTIFA had been actively attacking people throughout the day, then he was likely already on high alert for any more attacks. From inside his vehicle he'd have greatly reduced awareness of what's going on outside, all he'd know for sure is there was someone attacking his car somehow, the details would not be readily apparent and to demand he know them is unreasonable. He may have overreacted to his car being hit but that is not the same as a premeditated terrorist attack like the media was trying to portray it. If he'd set out to kill people he could have driven down the sidewalk instead and killed dozens. If you'd already been attacked one or more times previously and were understandably on edge because of that, it might affect your reaction a bit. His actions were not consistent with a deliberate attack, he could have inflicted far more severe casualties but he didn't. So either he's the world's worst terrorist, which seems to be the media's opinion, or he wasn't actually aiming to kill people. |
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