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Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:40:26 AM EST
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Fox has gone left.
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They'll come for places like Breitbart next, and when all right wing news media is shut down they'll come for the forums. They'll come for places like this. Eventually. It will happen, just watch.

Freedom of speech as an ideal is fucking dead. Just disgusting.  WTF happened to people? Are they so eager to give away rights and freedoms for the sake of "security", "not offending others", and other such nonsense?  
Fox has gone left.
Yeah, it has. What a disgrace. They were the last bastion of sorta-kinda-real-news left on TV. I liked putting them on when something important was going on I wanted to see/keep track of while at home. I don't do that anymore. Might as well be CNN. 
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:41:06 AM EST
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Everyone should make note the left's rampant hypocrisy.

They were all for declaring ISP's to be utilities because of alleged free speech issues, when it was really all about wanting their cheap Netflix subsidized by everyone else.

Now they turn around and are hiding their efforts to silence their opponents behind the justification that the domain registrars and ICANN are private companies. In the case of ICANN a private company with a government sponsored monopoly, I thought leftists hated monopolies? Oh yeah, that's only when they don't control them.

As always leftists have no principles, their positions on issues shift entirely based on what they stand to get out of it.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:41:45 AM EST
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If it's the government stepping in to take it down, then I would care.

If it's a private hosting company taking it down, then I don't care.
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Go read up on what ICANN is and understand that a few companies effectively control the internet with regard to hosting most of whom are heavily $ by .gov agencies you wouldn't trust.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:42:04 AM EST
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On the one hand, no one is obligated to host them.
On the other, I don't want their disgusting bile eliminated.
Freedom of speech is critical and our founding fathers understood that.
Just because it isn't popular doesn't mean it should be suppressed provided they are not calling for or inciting violence.
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I guess most rap music should be illegal.  6 months in the joint for possession.


 

Slippery slope, yo
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:42:26 AM EST
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Evidently some of YOU guys don't know how the internet works.  It's still up and people are posting on it.  Try your smartphones.

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Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:42:51 AM EST
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If it's the government stepping in to take it down, then I would care.

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FIFY. 

Fuck monopolies. 
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:43:11 AM EST
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If I ever find myself caught between the Neo-Nazis and ANTIFA, then I'll attack in both directions. 
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:45:11 AM EST
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Evidently some of YOU guys don't know how the internet works.  It's still up and people are posting on it.  
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Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:45:16 AM EST
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Evidently some of YOU guys don't know how the internet works.  It's still up and people are posting on it.  
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Yet all the website checkers say it's down and no one can get to it except apparently you.

Did you take that picture or just steal from somewhere else?
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:46:49 AM EST
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I'm gonna laugh with irony when they get around to taking down ARFCOM, just like when they get to the US Presidents and War Memorial Statues.
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Yes please do remember this thread. THIS THREAD. Some of you guys some of you think you are asbestos. And you call fudds
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Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:46:52 AM EST
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Yet all the website checkers say it's down and no one can get to it except apparently you.

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Good grief.

I'll snap a pic of a recent post there and you can calm your nerves.


Never mind that. Just read the time on my phone.

Not worth wasting more time on that site.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:47:15 AM EST
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I can't help but wonder how long before we're next. 

The Left has long considered this site to be an abomination, and they have listed us with Stormfront in the past. 
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:48:00 AM EST
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Good grief.

I'll snap a pic of a recent post there and you can calm your nerves.
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Yet all the website checkers say it's down and no one can get to it except apparently you.

Did you take that picture or just steal from somewhere else?
Good grief.

I'll snap a pic of a recent post there and you can calm your nerves.
Post a link to the page, not a screenshot.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:48:17 AM EST
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Yet all the website checkers say it's down and no one can get to it except apparently you.

Did you take that picture or just steal from somewhere else?
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Yet all the website checkers say it's down and no one can get to it except apparently you.

Did you take that picture or just steal from somewhere else?
I think it's a cached page on his phone.

Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:48:38 AM EST
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Evidently some of YOU guys don't know how the internet works.  It's still up and people are posting on it.  
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Yep. It's down. defendtexas is either lying or viewing a chached version. Or there's something really fucky on his end. 

Even my Tor browser can't access it. It's down as it can be.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:49:03 AM EST
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I think it's a cached page on his phone.

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Evidently some of YOU guys don't know how the internet works.  It's still up and people are posting on it.  
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Yet all the website checkers say it's down and no one can get to it except apparently you.

Did you take that picture or just steal from somewhere else?
I think it's a cached page on his phone.

That occurred to me.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:49:07 AM EST
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This was actually my guess, as well.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:50:58 AM EST
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Yep. It's down. defendtexas is either lying or viewing a chached version. Or there's something really fucky on his end. 

Even my Tor browser can't access it. It's down as it can be.
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Evidently some of YOU guys don't know how the internet works.  It's still up and people are posting on it.  
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Yep. It's down. defendtexas is either lying or viewing a chached version. Or there's something really fucky on his end. 

Even my Tor browser can't access it. It's down as it can be.
I went to the onion address posted on /pol and it's there, but there's no clear net version anywhere that I can find.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:51:02 AM EST
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I can't help but wonder how long before we're next. 

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Not long at all. It's coming. Not a matter of if, but when. 
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:52:53 AM EST
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I went to the onion address posted on /pol and it's there, but there's no clear net version anywhere that I can find.
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I think /pol/ is posting the Daily Stormer onion, not Stormfront, but I haven't verified that.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:53:19 AM EST
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I can't help but wonder how long before we're next. 

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Not just the left. There are a whole lot of others that think the same......
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:53:53 AM EST
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Last post there was Today at 12:52.  Not cached.

Go figure it out yourself.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:54:49 AM EST
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I think /pol/ is posting the Daily Stormer onion, not Stormfront, but I haven't verified that.
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I went to the onion address posted on /pol and it's there, but there's no clear net version anywhere that I can find.
I think /pol/ is posting the Daily Stormer onion, not Stormfront, but I haven't verified that.
I think you're correct, I had them mixed up.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:54:53 AM EST
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I am sure they will use this new tactic to shut down the hate of Islamic extremism next.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:55:24 AM EST
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I think /pol/ is posting the Daily Stormer onion, not Stormfront, but I haven't verified that.
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I went to the onion address posted on /pol and it's there, but there's no clear net version anywhere that I can find.
I think /pol/ is posting the Daily Stormer onion, not Stormfront, but I haven't verified that.
It is the stormer onion, not stormfront. 
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:56:04 AM EST
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Last post there was Today at 12:52.  Not cached.

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Post the url then.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 12:57:22 AM EST
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This was actually my guess, as well.
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I think it's a cached page on his phone.

This was actually my guess, as well.
Google allows you to pull a cached version which they have available.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:00:13 AM EST
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Not long at all. It's coming. Not a matter of if, but when. 
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Yep.

Got local networks?

If not, better get on the ball.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:16:01 AM EST
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I didn't mind stormfront too much. I wasn't a regular, but I did read the site periodically. People will tell me I'm wrong, but the hate and ignorance spewed over there isn't all that much different from the hate and ignorance spewed here. When it comes to transgenders, gays, democrats, illegal aliens, lower class black people, and various other topics; the closed minded shit I read here almost exactly mirrors the shit I read over there with the exception of a few vocabulary words that are commonly used over there; racial slurs were surprisingly not present though.


I'm not White.

Figured I should mention that before some asshole calls me a racist.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:17:40 AM EST
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This.

Vice news tonight actually had a good interview with the CEO/owner of the hosting company that hosted The Daily Stormer and basically said that he woke up one night and just wanted to delete them from existence.
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OK.  One more time for people who couldn't sit through the whole 4 minutes of a School House Rock animated short...

The 1st Amendment prevents the government from abridging your right to free speech.

There is no comparable protection in the private sector.  A business can shut you down for whatever reason.

This has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.
This.

Vice news tonight actually had a good interview with the CEO/owner of the hosting company that hosted The Daily Stormer and basically said that he woke up one night and just wanted to delete them from existence.
Things don't "just happen"

Mussolini said Fascism is Corporatism

Google hijacked the website, put it on a hard drive and put it in a suitcase and buried it under 10 feet of concrete.  Because they don't agree with their politics. It was the easiest thing ever, and the hosting company would never cross them because then they could retaliate against his other clients.  The levers of power.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:21:58 AM EST
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During the Obama days, ARFCOM was listed as a "potential domestic terrorist" and watched heavily. This includes persons in positions and the most vocal folks. I spoke often to friends in the FBI and they confirmed. Nothing every happened, but to me, that is one step away from being raided/shut down. If Hillary had won, who knows where this place would be.

You can't give up on freedoms like the 1st or 2nd. Once the government begins to move in, they will not stop. This is a sad day for free speech and for the internet.
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No kidding. Thanks for laying down some truth in this thread.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:22:43 AM EST
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I didn't mind stormfront too much. I wasn't a regular, but I did read the site periodically. People will tell me I'm wrong, but the hate and ignorance spewed over there isn't all that much different from the hate and ignorance spewed here. When it comes to transgenders, gays, democrats, illegal aliens, lower class black people, and various other topics; the closed minded shit I read here almost exactly mirrors the shit I read over there with the exception of a few vocabulary words that are commonly used over there; racial slurs were surprisingly not present though.


I'm not White.

Figured I should mention that before some asshole calls me a racist.
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Unpossible. We have nothing in common with them - they're socialists, and Leftists.

We are right wing, and therefore, by self-declared definition, absolutely champions of individual liberty and the enemies of colllectivist thought. Don't you know anything?
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:28:50 AM EST
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They'll come for places like Breitbart next, and when all right wing news media is shut down they'll come for the forums. They'll come for places like this. Eventually. It will happen, just watch.

Freedom of speech as an ideal is fucking dead. Just disgusting.  WTF happened to people? Are they so eager to give away rights and freedoms for the sake of "security", "not offending others", and other such nonsense?  
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They'll hijack Breitbart and turn it into controlled opposition.  It generates too much money to take down.  And they look to make containment vessels for certain thinkers. Better than having them mingling with the masses.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:29:08 AM EST
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Can anybody confirm that ICANN is preventing the transfer of domains? The EFF article I posted made it seem like the one site was being held in limbo by google, not ICANN.

I'd like to get the facts straight, rather than repeat something that may be bullshit.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:30:17 AM EST
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LOL Indeed
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:31:58 AM EST
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Calm down all u closet 88ers! It will never go past taking down confederate monuments or websites that spew hate.  They just want to get rid of symbols and platforms for hate,once they achieve getting rid of those things they will stop.  It will never morph into anything else. come on it's 2017!!
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:32:50 AM EST
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Did the government shut them down?

If not, this isn't a Freedom of Speech issue.

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Lol.

Some of you need a reality of the Earth in 2017 class.
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It's a theft issue, these private companies seized the domain so that it couldn't be rehosted elsewhere.

ICANN is refusing to allow it to be transferred. There are several registrar companies that would be willing to host it but ICANN won't allow it.

ICANN was handed a total monopoly by the US government under Obama, specifically so that it could engage in actions like this as an ostensibly "private" company.
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Did the government shut them down?

If not, this isn't a Freedom of Speech issue.

Some of you need a fuckin' civics class.
It's a theft issue, these private companies seized the domain so that it couldn't be rehosted elsewhere.

ICANN is refusing to allow it to be transferred. There are several registrar companies that would be willing to host it but ICANN won't allow it.

ICANN was handed a total monopoly by the US government under Obama, specifically so that it could engage in actions like this as an ostensibly "private" company.
ICANN Primer. Buckle your seatbelts.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:42:29 AM EST
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I thought Jews were considered white? I'm not being a dick, seriously I thought this was all about skin color?
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"White rights group" well not white Jews of course...
I thought Jews were considered white? I'm not being a dick, seriously I thought this was all about skin color?
That's a tricky one.  The original Jews were Semitic people (just like Iraqis and Saudis of today), and Semites normally have darker skin.  But unlike today's native Arabs, the Jews have been wandering Europe for many centuries, and breeding with white folks everywhere.  It's ironic that people use the term "anti-Semite" as though it means anti-Jewish, because most Jews today are far less Semitic than Arabs.  Many don't even speak a Semitic language, and are white as can be.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:42:29 AM EST
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"Mainstream media lies!"

"Unite the Right was a Nazi terror rally!"

Pick one.

Nevermind that ANTIFA is known for infiltrating right wing rally for psyops.

Reality check. No matter what you think of Nazis. To the left, if you are not a raging commie, you're a racist, bigoted, xenophobic Nazi that needs to be exterminated.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:42:56 AM EST
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Wrong.

The internet is the new meeting hall, the modern town square. There are too many people in too many places in a very much interconnected world for the internet to not be a protected speech platform.

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Monopolies are bad. IDGAF what the uber capitalists here say, this is the kind of shit that happens when you allow monopolies to run amok. When a few businesses control so much of the info stream they can easily hinder free speech. When you only see what a couple CEOs want you to see and have no other option that isn't free speech or freedom of information or freedom of commerce. It's corporations becoming the government. A tyrannical, oppressive, controlling government to be exact. 
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Did the government shut them down?

If not, this isn't a Freedom of Speech issue.

Some of you need a fuckin' civics class.
Wrong.

The internet is the new meeting hall, the modern town square. There are too many people in too many places in a very much interconnected world for the internet to not be a protected speech platform.

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Monopolies are bad. IDGAF what the uber capitalists here say, this is the kind of shit that happens when you allow monopolies to run amok. When a few businesses control so much of the info stream they can easily hinder free speech. When you only see what a couple CEOs want you to see and have no other option that isn't free speech or freedom of information or freedom of commerce. It's corporations becoming the government. A tyrannical, oppressive, controlling government to be exact. 
The constitution protects the citizen from the govt.  The govt gave control of the Internet to a private company so that nothing on the Internet is protected by any constitutional right. . Free Speech is one of the infringed rights, but far from the scariest.  How do you think our guarantees against warrantless search and seizure are doing? If a case is built against us, is due process followed?

Better pepper that fuckin Angus and pick up that can.
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:46:44 AM EST
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I have never been to the site so I cannot have a cache, so I searched storm front and hit enter
clicked on the site and it came up. So put down the phone and step away.......
Link Posted: 8/26/2017 1:50:18 AM EST
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I believe clienthold is because of the Registrar, not ICANN.
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It's amazing just how left this site has gone - look at the comments in this thread.

Freedom of speech is lost in this country and many here applaud it if it doesn't fit their own beliefs. It's amazing how many of you trash the rights of others. What other country in the world could you have the freedom to even have a site like stormfront? Think about that for a second.

Mark my words, this site will too be taken down if the left keeps having their way. You all think it's funny, and while the enemy is fighting an active war youre all pointing and laughing at the casualties. History is full of dead people who took the left for a joke and stood around and laughed until they were up to bat.

Its like sitting around watching your neighborhood burn around you while you laugh at your neighbors. Even those neighbors you don't agree with or think are crazy, and while you laugh that fire comes closer and closer to you.....
Well said.
Yep, and good analogy.
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The irony of that chant is that none of the jews I know are interested in blue collar jobs, so they are pretty safe from being replaced by jews.
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They don't like Jews either.  The alt righty guys in Charlottesville  (all Soros plants lol) were chanting "Jew will not replace us"; although that seems like a different group than the storm front types  
The irony of that chant is that none of the jews I know are interested in blue collar jobs, so they are pretty safe from being replaced by jews.
They were probably talking about the powerful Jews who promote illegal immigration (like Soros), who want to replace them with cheaper immigrant labor.
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I have never been to the site so I cannot have a cache, so I searched storm front and hit enter
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Did you click the cached Google link? That's the only other plausible explanation. Humor me, please? Clear your entire browsing history, including the cache, and then type the full address into the address bar and see if it comes up.

People around the world are saying it's down, all of the "is it down?" sites say it's down, but there are two of you now in this thread that say it's up. That doesn't make any sense.
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Evidently some of YOU guys don't know how the internet works.  It's still up and people are posting on it.  Try your smartphones.
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Some Security analyst is fucking with you.

Laughing at your cheeto stained underpants on webcam as we speak.  

Or its in your browser cache.

They have every keystroke and action in the world that happened in the last 7 months stored and accessible at any given time.  I believe they only have enough space to store info that isn't flagged for 7mo, though of course if you get flagged they store it forever
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Yeah I'd rather fight 5 guys than 500 guys also
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Evidently some of YOU guys don't know how the internet works.  It's still up and people are posting on it.  Try your smartphones.
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I don't have a smart phone.
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I can't help but wonder how long before we're next. 

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You're catching on.
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