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Posted: 12/15/2021 10:44:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The little brother TE has signed. I’ve heard that Max wants to be a coach, so maybe that is part of the deal long term. I don’t mind having Max. As this year showed, it’s ok to have a touch more depth at QB. Weigman can redshirt and King/Johnson can fight for the starting position…then if Johnson looses, he would be a solid back up that can be a grad assistant coach once he finishes college According to 247 sports Jake Johnson has committed (as of this AM) but not signed. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 11:26:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good to be back.  
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Posted: 12/15/2021 11:46:17 AM EDT
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Welcome back TG!
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Posted: 12/15/2021 11:50:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welcome back TG! 
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Posted: 12/15/2021 1:02:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Womp Womp OU can get the money if they want, but with the stuff that's happened over the last two weeks, it behooves us to stay in the B12 a bit longer |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 1:04:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OU can get the money if they want, but with the stuff that's happened over the last two weeks, it behooves us to stay in the B12 a bit longer Doesn't seem to fit with your culture. Seems you guys would want to be there sooner. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 1:18:17 PM EDT
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JACKSON STATE TAKES #1 OVERALL!
Deon Sanders woh . . . |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 1:18:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: JACKSON STATE TAKES #1 OVERALL! Deon Sanders woh . . . It means nothing. When Deion moves on, so can the kid. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 1:21:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It means nothing. When Deion moves on, so can the kid. I take it to mean the #1 recruit this year is a corner, and he's going to play for a NFL hall of fame corner turned head coach. He's looking for 1:1 coaching from *the best* person alive coaching his position. Probably also some NIL considerations there as Deon can swing some influence that direction for the kid. ETA: And for Deon, this shows he can pull the highest level of talent. You know for sure his agent is using this *right now* in rebuilding Deon's resume to highlight his recruiting capabilities. Whenever Deon leaves to go to a big name school, this kid can transfer portal and follow Deon. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:14:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't seem to fit with your culture. Seems you guys would want to be there sooner. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OU can get the money if they want, but with the stuff that's happened over the last two weeks, it behooves us to stay in the B12 a bit longer Doesn't seem to fit with your culture. Seems you guys would want to be there sooner. 
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:15:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I take it to mean the #1 recruit this year is a corner, and he's going to play for a NFL hall of fame corner turned head coach. He's looking for 1:1 coaching from *the best* person alive coaching his position. Probably also some NIL considerations there as Deon can swing some influence that direction for the kid. ETA: And for Deon, this shows he can pull the highest level of talent. You know for sure his agent is using this *right now* in rebuilding Deon's resume to highlight his recruiting capabilities. Whenever Deon leaves to go to a big name school, this kid can transfer portal and follow Deon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It means nothing. When Deion moves on, so can the kid. I take it to mean the #1 recruit this year is a corner, and he's going to play for a NFL hall of fame corner turned head coach. He's looking for 1:1 coaching from *the best* person alive coaching his position. Probably also some NIL considerations there as Deon can swing some influence that direction for the kid. ETA: And for Deon, this shows he can pull the highest level of talent. You know for sure his agent is using this *right now* in rebuilding Deon's resume to highlight his recruiting capabilities. Whenever Deon leaves to go to a big name school, this kid can transfer portal and follow Deon. JSU has done some impressive NIL this year iirc |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:44:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: JSU has done some impressive NIL this year iirc Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It means nothing. When Deion moves on, so can the kid. I take it to mean the #1 recruit this year is a corner, and he's going to play for a NFL hall of fame corner turned head coach. He's looking for 1:1 coaching from *the best* person alive coaching his position. Probably also some NIL considerations there as Deon can swing some influence that direction for the kid. ETA: And for Deon, this shows he can pull the highest level of talent. You know for sure his agent is using this *right now* in rebuilding Deon's resume to highlight his recruiting capabilities. Whenever Deon leaves to go to a big name school, this kid can transfer portal and follow Deon. JSU has done some impressive NIL this year iirc Hunter got $1.5mm. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:13:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our #2 QB (who started all year) is leaving. So we have Hanes King (2021 starter that was injured all year), and a walk on. We have Conner Weigman coming in as a 5*, but Jimbo plays the long game with QB development so I could see him selling Weigman on a red-shirt year to help him develop and limit his on-field risk of injury by guaranteeing him a year to get up to SEC speed. If that's the case, then we need a #2 QB, as our walk on won't cut it in the SEC for anything other than kneeling and handing it off, and even that can be problematic when you have 7 300lb+ DL guys bearing down on you when they know you're just running with no pass option. Welcome to our world,. Until we signed Nick Evars Oklahoma was down to Caleb Williams and Ralph Rucker. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:14:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't seem to fit with your culture. Seems you guys would want to be there sooner. I would rather be there sooner, but I woudl rather stay in the B12 two more years then go. Let BV do some Damage Control before the SEC move. Already doing good, went from a #32 recruiting class to top ten in less than a week. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:24:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would rather be there sooner, but I woudl rather stay in the B12 two more years then go. Let BV do some Damage Control before the SEC move. Already doing good, went from a #32 recruiting class to top ten in less than a week. 
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:32:34 PM EDT
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I wonder how the NIL deals are structed.
Are they tied to staying at the school? Are they a lump sum or installment payments? What is the length of the deal? Monk |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:20:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I take it to mean the #1 recruit this year is a corner, and he's going to play for a NFL hall of fame corner turned head coach. He's looking for 1:1 coaching from *the best* person alive coaching his position. Probably also some NIL considerations there as Deon can swing some influence that direction for the kid. ETA: And for Deon, this shows he can pull the highest level of talent. You know for sure his agent is using this *right now* in rebuilding Deon's resume to highlight his recruiting capabilities. Whenever Deon leaves to go to a big name school, this kid can transfer portal and follow Deon. I think the kid got on hell of an NIL deal from barstool sports |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:39:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:07:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Average ranking of the flipped recruits? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:14:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Average ranking of the flipped recruits? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Average ranking of the flipped recruits? 3 and 4 star guys, TTU's bread and butter when we don't suck. #34/35 recruiting class .... was in the 60s and 70s with Kliff and Wells  2023 is looking like a top 25 recruiting class. TXHSCA love McGuire as he's one of them. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:15:17 PM EDT
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TCU screwed up showing Patterson the door the way they did. Sonny will be off to a bigger job given the opportunity |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:18:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:23:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rivals recruiting ranks FWIW https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/topten_jpg-2205216.JPG Thank you Cousin Eddie. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/nottoptens_jpg-2205221.JPG Monk  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:24:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rivals recruiting ranks FWIW https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/topten_jpg-2205216.JPG Thank you Cousin Eddie. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/nottoptens_jpg-2205221.JPG Monk WTF is Texas doing at #5? How is that even possible? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:26:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF is Texas doing at #5? How is that even possible? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rivals recruiting ranks FWIW https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/topten_jpg-2205216.JPG Thank you Cousin Eddie. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/nottoptens_jpg-2205221.JPG Monk WTF is Texas doing at #5? How is that even possible? Having a big (27) class helps. We've (TTU) got no transfers out so far this year, and space for 2 more feb signees and some transfer players (likely OL to fill some gaps) |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:31:54 PM EDT
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I think Coach Prime is doing great things with the JSU program but I don't like seeing gambling companies investment influencing recruiting.
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rivals recruiting ranks FWIW https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/topten_jpg-2205216.JPG Thank you Cousin Eddie. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/nottoptens_jpg-2205221.JPG Monk I was shocked to see USCw @ #99. The top three are teams we play every year (bama, A&M, UGA.) Yea us! We are up to #12 but still only have one OL signee to go with the one we got last year. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:39:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I take it to mean the #1 recruit this year is a corner, and he's going to play for a NFL hall of fame corner turned head coach. He's looking for 1:1 coaching from *the best* person alive coaching his position. Probably also some NIL considerations there as Deon can swing some influence that direction for the kid. ETA: And for Deon, this shows he can pull the highest level of talent. You know for sure his agent is using this *right now* in rebuilding Deon's resume to highlight his recruiting capabilities. Whenever Deon leaves to go to a big name school, this kid can transfer portal and follow Deon. Kid will probably be playing at FSU before too long... When Deon starts coaching there. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:13:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF is Texas doing at #5? How is that even possible? Texas ALWAYS recruits well. Add in the #1 transfer of all time just committed to Texas, and that sways a lot of potential recruits who want an opportunity to play with someone who could be the future Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas ALWAYS recruits well. Add in the #1 transfer of all time just committed to Texas, and that sways a lot of potential recruits who want an opportunity to play with someone who could be the future Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: WTF is Texas doing at #5? How is that even possible? Texas ALWAYS recruits well. Add in the #1 transfer of all time just committed to Texas, and that sways a lot of potential recruits who want an opportunity to play with someone who could be the future Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. How many #1 overall HS recruits have become superstars at the NFL level? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:26:20 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kid will probably be playing at FSU before too long... When Deon starts coaching there. I see a Pac-12 school offering Deon a hell of a contract next year. He fits the Pac-12 life. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many #1 overall HS recruits have become superstars at the NFL level? Some yes…some no https://www.nfl.com/photos/national-signing-day-how-no-1-overall-recruits-since-2000-have--0ap3000000915187 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1938590-whats-the-success-rate-for-5-star-recruits-reaching-the-nfl |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF is Texas doing at #5? How is that even possible? 
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:43:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF is Texas doing at #5? How is that even possible? They signed 31 recruits and the best OL class in the country. Before they announced their big NIL deal for offensive linemen, UT was struggling to get any OL commits. Money obviously talks. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many #1 overall HS recruits have become superstars at the NFL level? To give this perspective most #1 overall recruits are non QB. And there have only been 6 #1 overall recruits in history that were a perfect recruiting score. Out of those only two have been QB's. So you only have one person in history you can compare this to: Vince Young. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:51:06 PM EDT
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I think in 4 years, "shitters full" only got 3-4 five stars.
But in just two weeks, BN, without even having 75% of his staff yet, goes into IMG (THE home of 5 stars, and in our backyard) where UF was previously locked out; and pulls the #1 safety in the class. Holy shit. Then in his presser just now commented on how IMG is going to be their priority. Music to all UF fans ears. Very, very good sign of things to come. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:53:06 PM EDT
[#37]
About 1 in 6 five star recruits go on to be first round picks. About half get to the NFL if I recall correctly. So it’s no guarantee, but the odds are pretty damn good.
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:54:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To give this perspective most #1 overall recruits are non QB. And there have only been 6 #1 overall recruits in history that were a perfect recruiting score. Out of those only two have been QB's. So you only have one person in history you can compare this to: Vince Young. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How many #1 overall HS recruits have become superstars at the NFL level? To give this perspective most #1 overall recruits are non QB. And there have only been 6 #1 overall recruits in history that were a perfect recruiting score. Out of those only two have been QB's. So you only have one person in history you can compare this to: Vince Young. Peyton was a big time recruit, Brady and Mahomes not so much |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:59:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think in 4 years, "shitters full" only got 3-4 five stars. But in just two weeks, BN, without even having 75% of his staff yet, goes into IMG (THE home of 5 stars, and in our backyard) where UF was previously locked out; and pulls the #1 safety in the class. Holy shit. Then in his presser just now commented on how IMG is going to be their priority. Music to all UF fans ears. Very, very good sign of things to come. That's one big reason Taggart was hired at FSU. Willie was a coach in the area and had his pick of talent when at WKU. They thought he could continue to pull from the local high schools and IMG. That didn't happen. I'm just a couple of minutes away from IMG and have done work there. Incredible talent at that place. The students' whole experience is tailored to play football and get a DI offer. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:15:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Peyton was a big time recruit, Brady and Mahomes not so much Rivals nor 247 go back far enough to look at Peyton. And yea, Brady and Mahomes got their accomplishments from hard work after college. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:17:19 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rivals nor 247 go back far enough to look at Peyton. And yea, Brady and Mahomes got their accomplishments from hard work after college. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Peyton was a big time recruit, Brady and Mahomes not so much Rivals nor 247 go back far enough to look at Peyton. And yea, Brady and Mahomes got their accomplishments from hard work after college. Mahomes was the best QB in college football from late 2014-2016 He was just on a shitty team |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:20:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think in 4 years, "shitters full" only got 3-4 five stars. But in just two weeks, BN, without even having 75% of his staff yet, goes into IMG (THE home of 5 stars, and in our backyard) where UF was previously locked out; and pulls the #1 safety in the class. Holy shit. Then in his presser just now commented on how IMG is going to be their priority. Music to all UF fans ears. Very, very good sign of things to come. He has his work cut out for him.......... everyone else has made IMG a priority as well |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:26:35 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mahomes was the best QB in college football from late 2014-2016 He was just on a shitty team Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Peyton was a big time recruit, Brady and Mahomes not so much Rivals nor 247 go back far enough to look at Peyton. And yea, Brady and Mahomes got their accomplishments from hard work after college. Mahomes was the best QB in college football from late 2014-2016 He was just on a shitty team FYI: Mahomes got great at scrambling and magic while the TTU OL tried to let him get mauled every snap. 2015 OL wasn't half bad mind ya with 2 NFL OL, NFL RB, NFL WR helped but 7-6 with a bowl loss to LSU after Mahomes got mauled every damned snap. That was a star studded DL |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:26:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mahomes was the best QB in college football from late 2014-2016 He was just on a shitty team Marcus Marriotta and Lamar Jackson enter the chat |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:27:33 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Marcus Marriotta and Lamar Jackson enter the chat Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mahomes was the best QB in college football from late 2014-2016 He was just on a shitty team Marcus Marriotta and Lamar Jackson enter the chat Better team performance doesn’t mean a better QB |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:31:11 PM EDT
[#46]
 Attached FileHere's a shocker, A&M is still in the hunt for 2 more 5*'s, Alabama is competing for 1 of those against us. #1, #2 and #3 are all so close it doesn't really do justice to distinguish between these classes. But look at that gap between #3 and #4 
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:31:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better team performance doesn’t mean a better QB Heisman voters disagree with you...all of them. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:32:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted: Marcus Marriotta and Lamar Jackson enter the chat Quoted: Better team performance doesn’t mean a better QB Watch Mahomes TTU highlights. He was 90% of a top offense nationally and the stats back it up. He's been a stud in the NFL, and he's even better at the no look pass and everything else. I don't mean to discount his work, HS, TTU, or chiefs work, he was a good student and the hardest working and playing guy I've seen since Zach Thomas and Wes Welker, plus physical talent as good as anyone. Never got into shit and is beloved by everyone. He does local commercials for Lubbock folks even now. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:33:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/151633/Untitled_jpg-2205399.JPG Here's a shocker, A&M is still in the hunt for 2 more 5*'s, Alabama is competing for 1 of those against us. #1, #2 and #3 are all so close it doesn't really do justice to distinguish between these classes. But look at that gap between #3 and #4 Are there numbers on that? Yellow/gray on white maybe I'm getting old |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 7:34:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/151633/Untitled_jpg-2205399.JPG Here's a shocker, A&M is still in the hunt for 2 more 5*'s, Alabama is competing for 1 of those against us. #1, #2 and #3 are all so close it doesn't really do justice to distinguish between these classes. But look at that gap between #3 and #4 W/L gap between 2-3 and 5 can't be overstated |
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