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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:51:52 AM EST
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You’re at work early! Did the boss authorize the early overtime pay?
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 2:09:33 AM EST
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Troll vs News threads. The great conundrum of our time.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 2:23:47 AM EST
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The drive (an automotive magazine) is very biased toward UKR
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the drive ukraine situation report

Not a single non-pro UKR story published


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I've never heard of this site, but it seems to have some pretty good info: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russian-submarine-landing-ship-struck-in-attack-on-sevastopol


Let's just say that the likelihood of the submarine having only minor damage is very small. Based on the overall explosions that were seen, there was a lot of collateral damage to the area, not just the landing ship. To suggest that all the missiles hit the ship and none were targeted at the submarine (or that none hit the submarine) is specious at best.


The drive (an automotive magazine) is very biased toward UKR
Google

the drive ukraine situation report

Not a single non-pro UKR story published





You expect a website that covers military news for the west to be pro-russian? are you upset?   They cover western militarys especially the USA.  and you are bothered they dont cover pro russian shit?
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 2:24:27 AM EST
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You expect a website that covers military news for the west to be pro-russian? are you upset?   They cover western militarys especially the USA.  and you are bothered they dont cover pro russian shit?
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The mind of daoliver924 is a very interesting one


Link Posted: 9/14/2023 2:34:16 AM EST
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You should see my copy and paste couple of posts up for what was actually said.
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Fucking ungrateful cunts

You should see my copy and paste couple of posts up for what was actually said.
thank you
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 2:48:00 AM EST
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The mind of daoliver924 is a very interesting one


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You expect a website that covers military news for the west to be pro-russian? are you upset?   They cover western militarys especially the USA.  and you are bothered they dont cover pro russian shit?


The mind of daoliver924 is a very interesting one




very, in a special way.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 5:42:52 AM EST
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There were. Many in fact.
After all, it's not like  UKR hasn't created fake images to claim damaging ships before
https://checkyourfact.com/2023/06/01/fact-check-image-damaged-russian-warship/

Russian intelligence collection ship Ivan Khurs after attack.#UkraineRussiaWar #UkraineWar #Ukraina #UkraineWillWin #UkrainianArmy #Ukrainians #RussiaisATerroistState #PutinWarCriminal #RussiaIsANaziState #Russian #Zelenskyy pic.twitter.com/r7nx8V9kyH

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The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense released a video claiming to show one of the sea drones hitting the ship, the outlet reported.

The image claims to show the Ivan Khurs damaged after the attack

However, the image is over two decades old. Through a reverse image search, Check Your Fact found that the image is from the USS Cole, not a Russian warship. The image was taken after the USS Cole was hit by a suicide bomb attack in 2000 and published in NBC News.


Images and videos of the Ivan Khurs emerged in the aftermath of the attack, showing the ship sailing into Sevastopol under its own power with no visible damage, according to open-source intelligence (OSINT) analyst Benjamin Pittet.

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There aren't any detailed pics of the Moskva either. See its all a grand conspiracy man
There were. Many in fact.
After all, it's not like  UKR hasn't created fake images to claim damaging ships before
https://checkyourfact.com/2023/06/01/fact-check-image-damaged-russian-warship/

Russian intelligence collection ship Ivan Khurs after attack.#UkraineRussiaWar #UkraineWar #Ukraina #UkraineWillWin #UkrainianArmy #Ukrainians #RussiaisATerroistState #PutinWarCriminal #RussiaIsANaziState #Russian #Zelenskyy pic.twitter.com/r7nx8V9kyH

 Idlib Frontline (@fatihjalal20) May 26, 2023

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense released a video claiming to show one of the sea drones hitting the ship, the outlet reported.

The image claims to show the Ivan Khurs damaged after the attack

However, the image is over two decades old. Through a reverse image search, Check Your Fact found that the image is from the USS Cole, not a Russian warship. The image was taken after the USS Cole was hit by a suicide bomb attack in 2000 and published in NBC News.


Images and videos of the Ivan Khurs emerged in the aftermath of the attack, showing the ship sailing into Sevastopol under its own power with no visible damage, according to open-source intelligence (OSINT) analyst Benjamin Pittet.




this is going to hurt your feelz....

"Russian authorities confirm the Minsk landing ship and and Rostov-on-Don submarine were "completely destroyed"

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1701890251306762666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 6:31:28 AM EST
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Ungrateful trash
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Should have pulled the plug long ago.  Ridiculous.  Foreign entanglements and all that.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 6:31:29 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 6:55:52 AM EST
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"Room to riot"

Ukebois will show no mercy here either.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 7:01:28 AM EST
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this is going to hurt your feelz....

"Russian authorities confirm the Minsk landing ship and and Rostov-on-Don submarine were "completely destroyed"

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1701890251306762666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 7:04:15 AM EST
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this is going to hurt your feelz....

"Russian authorities confirm the Minsk landing ship and and Rostov-on-Don submarine were "completely destroyed"

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1701890251306762666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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yeah, but what does mr. wikipedia say?

Link Posted: 9/14/2023 7:15:25 AM EST
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So, violent enough to cause trouble if their country is abandoned but not violent enough to fight for their country? Can’t have it both ways.
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That's a concept that's pretty much baked into the pie of modern refugees.

See also, MS-13 in the US.

See also, Eritrean mass violence in Israel.

See also, Afghan sexual violence in Germany.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 7:16:57 AM EST
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I love how "minor damage" became, per Russia, totally destroyed.

It must suck to parrot talking points only to have them turn out to be completely false or lies of omission time and time again.....
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 7:24:05 AM EST
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This guy looks legit, doesn't he?

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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 7:28:27 AM EST
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like the Western leaders who signed an agreement with Adolf Hitler at Munich in 1938 only to watch him invade Czechoslovakia. “The mistake is not diplomacy. The mistake is diplomacy with Putin. He negotiates only with himself.”

Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.


If you want to give the full context. What he is actually saying we would be leaving Ukranians out to dry just like we left Czechs out to dry along with he Poles. No threats but a historical comparison.
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That's apretty cool trick, thatnks!

So here's the entire article, so that nobody can claim I'm keeping anything out

Here is the section that seems to be in contention and I have bolded what I think is the salient point: "Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.

Could be a veiled threat, could be pointing out that refugees might misbehave/riot if they don't get their way--kinda sounds like a mob movie, LOL, "nice country you have here, be apity if a million refugees decided to riot".  There are many instances of that in the West, specifically Europe, where refugees have done so when their host countries did not keep them happy.  Any other reasonable interpretations of Zelensky's comments?




like the Western leaders who signed an agreement with Adolf Hitler at Munich in 1938 only to watch him invade Czechoslovakia. “The mistake is not diplomacy. The mistake is diplomacy with Putin. He negotiates only with himself.”

Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.


If you want to give the full context. What he is actually saying we would be leaving Ukranians out to dry just like we left Czechs out to dry along with he Poles. No threats but a historical comparison.



But to look at it in full context ,he also says this “drive these people into a corner" referring to the refugees, not Russians, iferring that the refugees would cause problems if they were "driven into a corner" thus not making it a historical comparison.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 7:59:56 AM EST
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lol, it does really sound like he is implying those refugees will become militants or are sleeper cells.

His wording would be considered a threat by the FBI if it was used at a school board conference or something of that nature

All those bad asses waiting on the day to spring into action looting europe should be back in Ukraine now then, rigging up artillery shells to blow up the great satan while shouting slavahu ukraini or whatever they are doing these days
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I heard Z-man is asking that Uke refugees be returned/deported to join the fight.

Dunno if true.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:05:52 AM EST
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I heard Z-man is asking that Uke refugees be returned/deported to join the fight.

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That can’t be true.  

I have it on good authority that the Ukraine is kicking some serious ass and they kind of retook Robotyne, a city of 3 people.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:08:22 AM EST
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It's always been a Putin pufferzine
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:11:38 AM EST
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so he's saying that other euro nations aren't pulling their weight.

he's right.

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It's aimed at the ones paying them money. Not the slackers. They are threatening the slackers to blackmail the ones paying their salaries.

It's a weird inversion. Instead of threatening them with more refugees, he's suggesting the refugees are actually sleeper agents. Very Soviet style.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:12:54 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:14:07 AM EST
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Bet he has enough corruption evidence to ruin any country, but Russia.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:22:09 AM EST
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I heard Z-man is asking that Uke refugees be returned/deported to join the fight.

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Austria and Hungary have -apparently- told the Ukrainians to fuck off, they're not sending male Ukrainian refugees of military age back to Ukrainie.

Unsurprisngly, the Poles are -apparently- are sending them back to Ukraine where I'm sure they'll make outstanding soldiers. lol

We are not investigating any Ukrainian refugee to see whether or not they are conscripted. Hungary does not extradite them to Ukraine,” Zsolt Semjén told atv.hu.

The Austrian authorities have recently refused to extradite men of conscription age who arrived in the country from Ukraine. The Polish newspaper Do Rzeczy reported that Austria is the first European Union country to refuse to extradite conscripts to Ukraine. Poland, on the other hand, has begun extraditing men of conscript age who left Ukraine illegally since February 24, 2022 to the Ukrainian authorities.


https://hungarytoday.hu/hungary-will-not-extradite-ukrainian-conscripts/
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:22:47 AM EST
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So start deporting them now. Why be threatened by a 2 bit comedian?
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:31:11 AM EST
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"Give us the money we demand or we will GRIFT with someone (China) else again!"
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 8:39:17 AM EST
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So start deporting them now. Why be threatened by a 2 bit comedian?
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It's clever. Gets back more bodies to send into the meatgrinder.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 12:39:45 PM EST
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another fucking "winner" ally america has chosen....fuck can we pick em eh?

Link Posted: 9/14/2023 12:50:33 PM EST
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Are we fighting the poles, Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Czechs, or Slovakians..yet
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I overlooked this on page 1, well memed!


Are we fighting the poles, Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Czechs, or Slovakians..yet
FYI,     WE aren't technically fighting anyone yet. We're just laundering money
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:00:50 PM EST
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I'll easily agree with that. Then again, Zelensky is hardly alone in doing that.
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Zelensky isn't the only one that wriggling his way up to the Western defense tit, and he's not the most important.

Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:03:11 PM EST
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You expect a website that covers military news for the west to be pro-russian? are you upset?   They cover western militarys especially the USA.  and you are bothered they dont cover pro russian shit?
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I've never heard of this site, but it seems to have some pretty good info: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russian-submarine-landing-ship-struck-in-attack-on-sevastopol


Let's just say that the likelihood of the submarine having only minor damage is very small. Based on the overall explosions that were seen, there was a lot of collateral damage to the area, not just the landing ship. To suggest that all the missiles hit the ship and none were targeted at the submarine (or that none hit the submarine) is specious at best.


The drive (an automotive magazine) is very biased toward UKR
Google

the drive ukraine situation report

Not a single non-pro UKR story published





You expect a website that covers military news for the west to be pro-russian? are you upset?   They cover western militarys especially the USA.  and you are bothered they dont cover pro russian shit?
The Drive is NOT a military news site. They have a small section that posts nothing but pro UKR shit
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:04:16 PM EST
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The mind of daoliver924 is a very interesting one


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The lack of a mind in you UKEbros is even more interesting.
You never post a link to anything and you spew broken record shit all day long.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:04:30 PM EST
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So how are s-400 sales trending....
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:06:33 PM EST
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this is going to hurt your feelz....

"Russian authorities confirm the Minsk landing ship and and Rostov-on-Don submarine were "completely destroyed"

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1701890251306762666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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There aren't any detailed pics of the Moskva either. See its all a grand conspiracy man
There were. Many in fact.
After all, it's not like  UKR hasn't created fake images to claim damaging ships before
https://checkyourfact.com/2023/06/01/fact-check-image-damaged-russian-warship/

Russian intelligence collection ship Ivan Khurs after attack.#UkraineRussiaWar #UkraineWar #Ukraina #UkraineWillWin #UkrainianArmy #Ukrainians #RussiaisATerroistState #PutinWarCriminal #RussiaIsANaziState #Russian #Zelenskyy pic.twitter.com/r7nx8V9kyH

 Idlib Frontline (@fatihjalal20) May 26, 2023

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense released a video claiming to show one of the sea drones hitting the ship, the outlet reported.

The image claims to show the Ivan Khurs damaged after the attack

However, the image is over two decades old. Through a reverse image search, Check Your Fact found that the image is from the USS Cole, not a Russian warship. The image was taken after the USS Cole was hit by a suicide bomb attack in 2000 and published in NBC News.


Images and videos of the Ivan Khurs emerged in the aftermath of the attack, showing the ship sailing into Sevastopol under its own power with no visible damage, according to open-source intelligence (OSINT) analyst Benjamin Pittet.




this is going to hurt your feelz....

"Russian authorities confirm the Minsk landing ship and and Rostov-on-Don submarine were "completely destroyed"

https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1701890251306762666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
This is going to hurt yours.  Google what you put in quotes.
Only Ukr claims this. Not a single legitimate news source has claimed that.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:06:49 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:10:48 PM EST
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Damn! Alex Jones lost some weight!
Even the website design is the same.
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What is the long term accuracy percentage of A Jones v the peope that the pro-Ukrainian crowd gets their news from?
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:11:48 PM EST
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I dont know the answer to that one.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:11:53 PM EST
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I heard Z-man is asking that Uke refugees be returned/deported to join the fight.

Dunno if true.
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lol, it does really sound like he is implying those refugees will become militants or are sleeper cells.

His wording would be considered a threat by the FBI if it was used at a school board conference or something of that nature

All those bad asses waiting on the day to spring into action looting europe should be back in Ukraine now then, rigging up artillery shells to blow up the great satan while shouting slavahu ukraini or whatever they are doing these days


I heard Z-man is asking that Uke refugees be returned/deported to join the fight.

Dunno if true.
Not entirely true but pretty close
Basically you can be drafted even if you are not in UKR. Whether you go or not is up to you
https://visitukraine.today/blog/1390/voennyi-ucet-za-granicei-novye-obyazannosti-i-obyazatelstva
https://visitukraine.today/blog/1426/military-registration-abroad-is-the-deportation-of-men-to-ukraine-real  
Now I wonder, if it's only 10 year olds and women, why would they do this?
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:13:20 PM EST
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Are we fighting the poles, Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Czechs, or Slovakians..yet?
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I overlooked this on page 1, well memed!


Are we fighting the poles, Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Czechs, or Slovakians..yet?


This is about a hypothetical scenario Zelensky described which takes place in the future, where Ukraine determines it has been abandoned because the amount of aid is insufficient, so the Ukrainians living in other western countries then become menacing somehow, but it was not elaborated on beyond saying "unpredictable" like some shelter dog's adoption bio. We can already see that when Ukraine screeches it has been stabbed in the back by Elon Musk, the nafo accounts from all those listed countries start attacking him in broken english. Why wouldn't they take sides in a shit fit of this magnitude: if Zelensky were to actually call for revenge and say that Ukraine was stabbed in the back by the west as a whole?
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:14:20 PM EST
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This is going to hurt yours.  Google what you put in quotes.
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The landing craft is completely toast. A very similar amount of fire damage is visible in the submarine’s drydock in the satellite image. The hull is cooked and the submarine is a total loss.

https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1702363501744783744?s=46&t=XU83H-udYX-cJGHEQ5hBSw

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Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:17:21 PM EST
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So how are s-400 sales trending....
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Amazon says mine gets here Monday
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:18:09 PM EST
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Okay.  You're right. There is zero proof that Ukraine "destroyed" the Kilo-class submarine, "Rostov-on-Don" or the Landing Craft.

However, it WOULD be a significant event if they did, correct?
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Kilo yes, Landing craft debatable
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Okay.  You're right. There is zero proof that Ukraine "destroyed" the Kilo-class submarine, "Rostov-on-Don" or the Landing Craft.

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I just posted a link to a video of the landing craft smoldering, but the link won’t go hot. It’s completely cooked. It looks like it burned to the waterline (if it had been in water)
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Oh please... I have met PLENTY of "Leftwingers" who believe that stuff too and more. Flat earth, hollow earth, 5G, HARP weather modification, Antarctica "Alien" base and on and on.
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Amazon says mine gets here Monday
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I'm just hoping their is enough left over I can buy a key chain off etsy
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:25:29 PM EST
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Kilo yes, Landing craft debatable
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That's why they pulled so many of those landing craft from their other fleets right before the "Special operation"

Because they totally don't need them for anything.
Link Posted: 9/14/2023 1:27:17 PM EST
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That's why they pulled so many of those landing craft from their other fleets right before the "Special operation"

Because they totally don't need them for anything.
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Cult be triggered.
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Oh please... I have met PLENTY of "Leftwingers" who believe that stuff too and more. Flat earth, hollow earth, 5G, HARP weather modification, Antarctica "Alien" base and on and on.
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I had never even heard of a "super moon parasite" before he posted that image.   That's a completely novel kook theory for me.
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