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Read the press release. Boy Scout Troops are NOT going co-ed. Packs may choose to go co-ed but will be segregated into single-gender dens. But, I don't expect either to last for long. Moms will cry, "the Cub Scout Pack has two dens with 8 boys each, but my Suzie is stuck in the girls' den with two other girls. It's not FAAAAAAIIIIIIRRRRRRR......." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In spite of all of the bad press in the past years, I was actually quite excited about getting my son into scouting. Until now. I don't have a problem with him being around girls. I encourage it. But, it hurts my heart to see one of the few remaining boys' clubs being turned into a co-ed clusterfuck. I suppose I have a few years to really make up my mind about him being involved, but this certainly doesn't help. Bad move, BSA. Bad move. But, I don't expect either to last for long. Moms will cry, "the Cub Scout Pack has two dens with 8 boys each, but my Suzie is stuck in the girls' den with two other girls. It's not FAAAAAAIIIIIIRRRRRRR......." |
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My sons wolf scout den will surely have 2 girls join right away now. 2 kids in his den have sisters who are at every damn meeting and do every event they can possibly do and want to join... They are basically already in it without the uniform. View Quote |
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Sad what it has become. That doesn't change the experience I had. On a less controversial note and tangent: You know what my biggest regret from Scouting is? At the 1973 National Jamboree, I traded away my field cap to some scout from England. Can't remember what I got, but I wish I still had it. http://www.mshhistsoc.org/sites/default/files/621_0.jpg View Quote End of an era. Damn shame. |
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I was an Eagle scout in the '70's. Went to Philmont. Summer camps at ALFLO, had a shooting range that no longer exist. Good times. A few years ago in a heart to heart with my son, I told him I always regretted not getting him in to Boy Scouts. He told me not to sweat it dad and was glad I didn't push him to join. He now resides on a small "compound" just south of Crestview, Fl with a "Group" of real men, so I guess he turned out ok. I know I know, humble brag post, if you catch the reference View Quote |
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It's a common thing for the Blue&Gold Banquet, has been for decades. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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It's all about the funding. Traditional funding dried up long ago.
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Type Boy Scout Folsom Dair in a search engine image search, I can't post that merit page here View Quote (Or was that suppose to be "Dairy" or "Fair"?) But I did find one of Aimless & DK Prof's Attached File |
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That cat is already out of the bag. And all those opportunities should be open to females just as they have been open to weak males. View Quote |
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I'm a bit torn on this. The Girl Scouts is totally lame, and if I had a daughter I would be saddened that she wouldn't have the opportunities I had in the Boy Scouts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I'm a bit torn on this. The Girl Scouts is totally lame, and if I had a daughter I would be saddened that she wouldn't have the opportunities I had in the Boy Scouts. That being said we had a local Girl Scout group start up for any local girl in Girl Scouts; the group is totally focused on outdoor activities weekly and does at least two bona-fide backpacking trips per year. The ladies that run it are 'old time' Girl Scouts that remember what the organization was like and don't seem to be happy with the direction it's going. On the other hand, I suspect strongly that this will practically destroy the organization. As an Eagle & Scouter myself and the father of an Eagle Scout I can't see how this will help our organization. |
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Actually not true. The LDS still supported the BSA at least until eagle scout. Will be interesting to see how they take this considering they are 25% of all scouts iirc. View Quote The LDS has a history of folding, er, having a new revelation, whenever the .gov comes down on them, so not expecting too much whining from them on this cultural issue. |
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It has nothing to do with gender equality. It has everything to do with pre-emptively avoiding the "My child is a trans-gender and boy scouts is not allowing my boy to be a girl, or my girl to be a boy" thing. It's 3D chess. They thought this would be a way to avoid the whole tranny boy scout issue. Everyone just "assumes" the boy is a girl. So, a girl who wants to be a boy can join and no one would have an issue. Or a boy who decides he wants to be a girl can be a girl in the boy scouts. View Quote |
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No weird merit badges, but lots of leather BDSM & gay parades. (Or was that suppose to be "Dairy" or "Fair"?) But I did find one of Aimless & DK Prof's distant relatives... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/352436/image-330802.JPG View Quote |
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This is how we rolled. https://atmargaretashaus.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/img_20130628_170305_584.jpg View Quote |
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You were told this was going to happen when they allowed the gays in. The Left is DESTROYING EVERYTHING until they can get to YEAR ZERO, Cambodian style. Look it up.....
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Guess I'll take all my pre-SJW BSA books and guides and just do them with my son on our own. Will look into Trail Life USA as well for the companionship and team aspect too. It's not so much any ONE policy the BSA has put in place, but rather the direction that all of their policies show them moving in the last 5 years or so. I really enjoyed my time in scouting, but it was rough and tumble shit that boys did and didn't have to worry about moms or girls in the mix for whatever complications, if any, it may have caused.
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Actually not true. The LDS still supported the BSA at least until eagle scout. Will be interesting to see how they take this considering they are 25% of all scouts iirc. View Quote |
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Just like how the YMCA took out the "C" from their organization.
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The fact that the den or patrol will be gender specific is smoke and mirrors. If our pack and troop are representive of most, the majority of activities are at the pack or troop level.
In cub scouts, the den has its weekly meetings or a couple of activities. But, all campouts, summer camps, parades, service projects, etc are done as a pack. In Boy Scouts, nothing was really done as a patrol, except when they divided up to compete against other patrols, or older patrols helping younger. All activities were done as a troop. The boys and the girls will be mixing in together, it's the structure of the programs. |
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I am betting that there won't be a ton of girls joining up. That one troop will get a girl and all the boys will transfer to a different troop.
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I'm an Eagle Scout an a current Assistant Scout Master.
We already have co-ed scouting in Venturing Crews. I think the ages are about 14 to 21, maybe up to 22. The rest of the world has been co-ed scouting forever. I hate to see tradition go away but the reality is that Girl Scouts sucks as far as adventure and outdoors stuff goes. Those girls don't learn much there. I'm sure the same rules will apply to Cub Scouts as they already apply to Venturing Crews. If a female is on a trip then a female leader must also be on that trip. Separate sleeping arrangements for both male and female leaders and for male and female cub scouts. The transition will be seamless for most cub packs as they are already very family oriented. |
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What do we call "Boy Scouts" that are girls? "Girl Scout" is taken. |
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Boy Scouts of America would be a lot stronger than it is today if they hadn't welcomed gay Scouts, gay Scoutmasters/Assistant Scoutmasters, and transgender Scouts* into Boy Scout Troops. View Quote |
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The Cub Scout program will remain gender specific. The girl version will be separate from the boy version.
This is a good thing as it will end the radical feminist Girl Scouts. |
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I'm an Eagle Scout an a current Assistant Scout Master. We already have co-ed scouting in Venturing Crews. I think the ages are about 14 to 21, maybe up to 22. The rest of the world has been co-ed scouting forever. I hate to see tradition go away but the reality is that Girl Scouts sucks as far as adventure and outdoors stuff goes. Those girls don't learn much there. I'm sure the same rules will apply to Cub Scouts as they already apply to Venturing Crews. If a female is on a trip then a female leader must also be on that trip. Separate sleeping arrangements for both male and female leaders and for male and female cub scouts. The transition will be seamless for most cub packs as they are already very family oriented. View Quote Me and my brother are going backpacking in a few weekends and I invited a good friend of mine whom I haven't seen in a few years. He's married. Not once has he asked about bringing his wife along. Why? Because it's a bro weekend, that's why. Some things are just not meant to be all-inclusive. ETA: This isn't an attack on you. I'm just irritated with all this type of shit in general. |
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Never Thats some Obama level faggotry View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's a damn shame, my grandson just started cub scouts. He will never see scouting as I did. He and my son will be doing a father/son cake baking & decorating as team for a pack competition. WTF ? ? When did cake baking become a Scout activity? Thats some Obama level faggotry |
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Fucking imgur sucks balls, at least on an iphone it always loads the site with a blank image. I'll imagine it's something like a dildo & a rainbow, or a brown star at the end of a rainbow? View Quote |
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My boy is 8yo and loves Scouting. We researched different Packs/Troops in the greater Seattle area, most were disgusting liberal dens of failure. Largely single moms looking for baby sitters or "father figures" for their bastard children. We happily travel 30min to participate with a more rural and healthy minded group of folks. We weren't at all interested in Urban Scouting porgrams.
As a group, we spend a lot of time and treasure and have a genuinely healthy traditional Scouting program going... Now what? Of course my boy is learning from me, his uncles, and friends. But what about exposure to group projects with other kids his own age? outdoor activities? Life sports? Making good choices in stressful situations? Etc. A Pack/Troop is a product of the local families participating. But when leadership is so far out of line... We're going to have some hard conversations at the dinner table tonight. |
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i am an eagle scout and i stopped giving them money years ago. they are a shell of what they once were and run by sjws now.
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My sons wolf scout den will surely have 2 girls join right away now. 2 kids in his den have sisters who are at every damn meeting and do every event they can possibly do and want to join... They are basically already in it without the uniform. View Quote A pack may have both boy and girl dens or they can elect to form a boys and girls pack. Dens will not be intermingled. |
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The fact that the den or patrol will be gender specific is smoke and mirrors. If our pack and troop are representive of most, the majority of activities are at the pack or troop level. In cub scouts, the den has its weekly meetings or a couple of activities. But, all campouts, summer camps, parades, service projects, etc are done as a pack. In Boy Scouts, nothing was really done as a patrol, except when they divided up to compete against other patrols, or older patrols helping younger. All activities were done as a troop. The boys and the girls will be mixing in together, it's the structure of the programs. View Quote |
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