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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:38:59 PM EST
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They were warning people about these assholes back in the day, fucking bizarro world
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:42:56 PM EST
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I think we just need to keep calling millennials pussies, that way boomers won't get pillowed Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It's due to a lot of things, but yes the gov holds most to blame. Which, doesn't help the situation when government control is comparable to divine intervention to someone starting out in the marketplace. If god made the world bad, its logical to want a new god to takes its place. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:44:47 PM EST
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Explain why you think millennials don’t have equal opportunity. Put the why into a very blanket statement. Every generation has faced its challenges. I’d love to know what non self induced challenges millennials have that are so much more than other generations. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. Three off the top of my head. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:45:41 PM EST
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Ben Shapiro says something I agree with. Regardless of your generation, if you want to find success then 1)graduate high school 2) get a job 3)wait to have kids until married
You may not drive a Ferrari but you can certainly live a good life. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:46:18 PM EST
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this exactly...becuase its the most panpered generation in the cummlative history of mankind. everything handed to them...now they need to start to work for it. Good luck cupcake. Guess it’s a wash. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:48:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its not disproportionate is proportionate. It's a newtonian effect in the Overton window. Ignore physics at your peril. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:49:14 PM EST
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Hard times make for hard men, good times make for soft men. Pretty sure most millenials are as soft as melting butter. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:49:37 PM EST
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Education inflation, jobs require higher levels of education for the same level of advancement, and education costs far outstripped wage growth. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. Three off the top of my head. Work hard and don’t have kids right away. This isn’t hard. And maybe also actually listen to another persons opinion that you disagree with without screeching like you were in fire. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:50:21 PM EST
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Lol let's be honest.....anyone under the age of 90 has never seen "hard times" in the US. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:53:11 PM EST
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Handed an out of control government and a shit economy, but that’s ok because iPhones. Guess it’s a wash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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this exactly...becuase its the most panpered generation in the cummlative history of mankind. everything handed to them...now they need to start to work for it. Good luck cupcake. Guess it’s a wash. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:54:32 PM EST
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Handed an out of control government and a shit economy, but that’s ok because iPhones. Guess it’s a wash. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:55:22 PM EST
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All the result of liberal,policies. Still does not prevent an individual from succeeding. If anything it should be helpful. Plenty of decent jobs that don’t require a college degree (which many majors are worthless yet they still do them). No need to take on $100k student loans then have a liberal arts degree and start butching about not fair shit. Work hard and don’t have kids right away. This isn’t hard. And maybe also actually listen to another persons opinion that you disagree with without screeching like you were in fire. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Education inflation, jobs require higher levels of education for the same level of advancement, and education costs far outstripped wage growth. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. Three off the top of my head. Work hard and don’t have kids right away. This isn’t hard. And maybe also actually listen to another persons opinion that you disagree with without screeching like you were in fire. It doesn’t matter anymore anyway, no one can stop what’s coming. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:57:09 PM EST
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Ben Shapiro says something I agree with. Regardless of your generation, if you want to find success then 1)graduate high school 2) get a job 3)wait to have kids until married You may not drive a Ferrari but you can certainly live a good life. Sure, the top and bottom 5% are independent of the economy, but it matters to everyone else. GDP growth after starting work was 2/3 of what boomers and Gen X had. Jobs paid less and were rarer with higher prerequisites. From education to rental apartments to medical care and houses, prices went up from 30% to the occasional 300-400%, while wages for the bottom 90% flatlined. What a fucking joke. I thought you were arguing in bad faith earlier but you're just permabanned from search engines. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:57:10 PM EST
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That’s not true but the vast majority of hard times are self induced. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol let's be honest.....anyone under the age of 90 has never seen "hard times" in the US. Hard worker, way harder worker than I am. Guy destroyed him body doing a series of agricultural jobs. All for this vague plan of someday opening his own bed and breakfast. His wife works as well, they have zero savings and their postage stamp property is in California and it's only a matter of time until his body breaks completely. When that happens... Well, he is still holding out hope of some sort of .gov subsidy. Last year I was visiting with him, trying to figure out what his plan was. We talked and talked and talked and the only conclusion either of us could come to was that he needed help. But apparently none I could give. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:57:15 PM EST
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It is not like your side has been offering them anything but "nose to the grindstone" mantra for ever. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:57:42 PM EST
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That was a 5 minute DSA commercial
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:58:28 PM EST
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That’s not true but the vast majority of hard times are self induced. They do just want to be coddled. If they didn't, they would support Trump who has allowed the oil and gas industries to flourish while offering good jobs and is trying to restrict immigration and damaging imports which have fucked low and mid wage people. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:59:37 PM EST
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People are trying to explain why so many young people are disaffected and the older generations offer base platitudes. It doesn’t matter anymore anyway, no one can stop what’s coming. Interesting that millennials are pissed because “muh life shitty” due to government policies are the same people who want to drastically increase government policies, |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 4:59:59 PM EST
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A lot of it also is that Boomers and early Gen-Xer's *DID* have a much easier path to the middle class. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Young people get behind it because they dont have any earning power yet. As people age and their net worth increases, they dont like the idea of forcibly having their wealth taken away and given to others. That said, socialism on some levels is nearly mandatory to maintain a first world society now. Fire and school tax for instance. College was cheaper compared to annual income. Cars were cheaper compared to annual income. Much better jobs with benefits out of HS. Way less nanny state crap to deal with. Way less SSDI, Medicare, Medicaid population to deal with. Pre 1968 immigration laws were much better for the country. Similar era state government bodies could be much more republican like. No drowning in AA/PC BS. Interest rates were horrible. Very little of the instant gratification credit card life style. Home size, number of cars, frequency of eating out, etc. were much more modest. Gas prices were nuts for a while. A HS diploma, let alone college degree, had not become the pencil drill participation award many of them are now. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:02:16 PM EST
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Can’t disagree with the government part. And that's the insidious subtlety of what happens when you mix socialism and capitalism in just the right amount. You have a population that isn't starving to death. Year at the same time everyone is so desperately chasing the latest consumer products that you have no savings or other resources. And everything gets more expensive as all the greedy little piggies take more and more of someone else's pie. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:02:21 PM EST
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here's the thing, Boomer's were able to support a family and have a home on one income. Growing up in the 70's and 80's, very few of my friends and family had working mothers. Starting in the 90's though (coincidentally enough, around the time that wage stagnation started) more and more of the moms had to go to work. It's been building for GenX'ers and now for Millennials. Stagnant real wages, lots more competition for jobs from working women (out of necessity, not just from choice), and now the flood of legal and illegal immigrants, all combine to make things a real shit show
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:06:19 PM EST
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That was a 5 minute DSA commercial https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/459941/4DC987E1-588B-4B42-835B-031187202841_png-978758.JPG If someone ever said that to me in person I would be seriously tempted to squeeze their brains out with a brick. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:06:55 PM EST
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Yes and no. College was cheaper compared to annual income. Cars were cheaper compared to annual income. Much better jobs with benefits out of HS. Way less nanny state crap to deal with. Way less SSDI, Medicare, Medicaid population to deal with. Pre 1968 immigration laws were much better for the country. Similar era state government bodies could be much more republican like. No drowning in AA/PC BS. Interest rates were horrible. Very little of the instant gratification credit card life style. Home size, number of cars, frequency of eating out, etc. were much more modest. Gas prices were nuts for a while. A HS diploma, let alone college degree, had not become the pencil drill participation award many of them are now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Young people get behind it because they dont have any earning power yet. As people age and their net worth increases, they dont like the idea of forcibly having their wealth taken away and given to others. That said, socialism on some levels is nearly mandatory to maintain a first world society now. Fire and school tax for instance. College was cheaper compared to annual income. Cars were cheaper compared to annual income. Much better jobs with benefits out of HS. Way less nanny state crap to deal with. Way less SSDI, Medicare, Medicaid population to deal with. Pre 1968 immigration laws were much better for the country. Similar era state government bodies could be much more republican like. No drowning in AA/PC BS. Interest rates were horrible. Very little of the instant gratification credit card life style. Home size, number of cars, frequency of eating out, etc. were much more modest. Gas prices were nuts for a while. A HS diploma, let alone college degree, had not become the pencil drill participation award many of them are now. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:07:28 PM EST
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Yeah, true. For sure millennials are misunderstood and have it harder than any generation in history and have nothing to learn from people who have more experience in life. Interesting that millennials are pissed because “muh life shitty” due to government policies are the same people who want to drastically increase government policies, Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are trying to explain why so many young people are disaffected and the older generations offer base platitudes. It doesn’t matter anymore anyway, no one can stop what’s coming. Interesting that millennials are pissed because “muh life shitty” due to government policies are the same people who want to drastically increase government policies, Leftism has created the mess but in school and media they were taught leftism is infallible so all they can think of to do is double down. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:09:42 PM EST
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As someone who grew up in a socialist country and moved to the USA..... Fuck socialism! Fuck it with a rust meat hook right in its asshole! |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:10:15 PM EST
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It is not like your side has been offering them anything but "nose to the grindstone" mantra for ever.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:10:49 PM EST
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All they really know is their lives suck and they don’t understand why because they’ve been taught lies their whole life. Leftism has created the mess but in school and media they were taught leftism is infallible so all they can think of to do is double down. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:11:02 PM EST
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100% of my friends believe universal basic income is the only way forward. These are all young professionals in their early 30s earning $80,000+ per year.  But we seem to be incapable or letting people face the consequences of their decisions, actions, and lifestyle choices. We seem to disproportionately experience population growth in groups with 50% incapability of gainful employment and inability to be net gain productive citizens. What are we going to do with a growing percentage of useless people that need to be supported? We are already at a point the entire system is not supportable or sustainable. But have pushed forward the hammer coming down artificially. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:12:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right down to "What happened in Russia and Venezuela was because of corruption. That wasn't real socalisim and it won't happen here." If someone ever said that to me in person I would be seriously tempted to squeeze their brains out with a brick. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:12:43 PM EST
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I'm a 30 year old trans woman, and I have a bachelor's degree in feminist dance therapy. I have severe mental issues, I'm addicted to drugs, I have a crime record for bashing the fash, and I'm unemployed.
Capitalism has failed. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:14:23 PM EST
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Your side? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is not like your side has been offering them anything but "nose to the grindstone" mantra for ever. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:14:24 PM EST
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here's the thing, Boomer's were able to support a family and have a home on one income. Growing up in the 70's and 80's, very few of my friends and family had working mothers. Starting in the 90's though (coincidentally enough, around the time that wage stagnation started) more and more of the moms had to go to work. It's been building for GenX'ers and now for Millennials. Stagnant real wages, lots more competition for jobs from working women (out of necessity, not just from choice), and now the flood of legal and illegal immigrants, all combine to make things a real shit show |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:14:39 PM EST
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Fuck the daily show and that POS Trevor Noah. Not giving presumably Comedy Central/Daily Show another “view”
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:14:53 PM EST
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Everyone who romanticizes socialism/communism seem to always forget or intentionally ignore the fact To make it work, there has to be the threat of violence via the government. All those who are ruled under it are equal(ly poor) and those who rule are generally well off. 
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:17:55 PM EST
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Their lives don’t suck. But they are going to force socialism on us to ensure everyone’s life sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All they really know is their lives suck and they don’t understand why because they’ve been taught lies their whole life. Leftism has created the mess but in school and media they were taught leftism is infallible so all they can think of to do is double down. The cultural lies they were force fed induce all sorts cognitive dissonance and hate in people, but to undo the programming is to face ostracism. Mental illness is through the roof and it’s not because genetics suddenly took a massive shit. We have created a society that manufactures mental issues and then raised generations of kids in it. Each generation has been getting worse since the counter culture revolution of the 1960’s and it’s going to keep getting worse until it collapses spectacularly. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:18:08 PM EST
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Their lives don’t suck. But they are going to force socialism on us to ensure everyone’s life sucks. I think we are already there. It's the way these things work. Keep increasing the size of government until collapse. Then the interesting things happen. How much is too much? How much can be tolerated? Justified? Socialism and all the glorious trappings therov was shoved down this countries throat in prodigious amounts in the 1930s. It was never reformed or cleared out. It just got bigger. Now a bunch of children are asking for the ultimate fulfillment of their ideals. Why wouldn't they? They have been told all their lives that Scandinavia is heaven on earth. Despite the fact that they usually know nothing at all about the place. They probably also see others sucking down government benefits like social security and think these people a bunch of hypocrites. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:19:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are going to force socialism on us... I think we are already there. It's the way these things work. Keep increasing the size of government until collapse. Then the interesting things happen. How much is too much? How much can be tolerated? Justified? Socialism and all the glorious trappings therov was shoved down this countries throat in prodigious amounts in the 1930s. It was never reformed or cleared out. It just got bigger. Now a bunch of children are asking for the ultimate fulfillment of their ideals. Why wouldn't they? They have been told all their lives that Scandinavia is heaven on earth. Despite the fact that they usually know nothing at all about the place. They probably also see others sucking down government benefits like social security and think these people a bunch of hypocrites. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:21:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both could be privatized. Schools most definitely since there are plenty of private schools. https://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/Administration-Billing/articles/393135018-How-todays-public-fire-departments-were-born-from-private-fire-brigades/ |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:21:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats the point. 
Boomers had better opportunity. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:24:21 PM EST
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Then why the fuck is he allowed here? There is one thing for being for diversity of thought which is healthy. Quite another to advocate for a system that is in direct conflict with the constitution and has killed hundreds of millions of people and impoverished millions more. Fucking trash that that shit is allowed. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:24:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He’s one of our |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:25:22 PM EST
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Young people get behind it because they dont have any earning power yet. As people age and their net worth increases, they dont like the idea of forcibly having their wealth taken away and given to others. That said, socialism on some levels is nearly mandatory to maintain a first world society now. Fire and school tax for instance. Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:28:18 PM EST
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When I was a teenager I was a proud militant socialist. I was anxiously looking forward to the day when I could fill ditches with the irrelevant, evil and corrupt enemies of the revolution. Cut down human civilization to an ecologically manageable level. I saw how evil that was and tried to live a more peaceful life. I consciously spent time around the people I had wanted to exterminate and found they weren't what I was told they were. Now all I can think about is, "how tall do you have to be to ride the helicopter? What are the criterias and standards going to be when these people start getting dropped from a C130 into the ocean? Do you have to be older than 11? 23? If someone says, "I give up, I won't be a socialist anymore" right before the drop commences does that mean it's not okay to drop that person?" I think I'm going to have to start asking, everyone I know. 'Are you willing to die for your ideas? Are you willing to kill for your ideas?" and perhaps most importantly, "are you willing to commit mass murder for your ideas?" Are you? I don't think I can. And so we come to the ultimate irony of socalisim and communism. By its very existence it seems to demand a disproportionate response. Once the bodies start stacking up, the stacks increase steadily. And the best anyone can hope for in the way of an ending is this. 
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:28:34 PM EST
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Well...watching the housing market skyrocket i'm sure is contributing.
My parents house went from $360k in 2014 when they bought it, to $540k recently when they were looking to sell. Modest single family home with less than an acre. Taxes $13k a year. Makes people my age (1995), not really see much hope going forward especially when most make at most $15-20/hour. So they're thinking Bernie and socialism is the way... I'm not saying they're right, because they're not. But I can see why they think the way they do. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:28:35 PM EST
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Except that is not true. We have need for the skilled trades more than ever. Opportunity abounds for people with the right training and/or degrees. The problem is that the boomers were not trying to make a living with a feminist dance degree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thats the point.
Boomers had better opportunity. Kids are naive and ignorant, literally ignorant. It’s multiplied exponentially when the people ostensibly guiding them give them terrible advice and fill their heads with insanity. That’s why it took 2-3 generations for the cancer of cultural Marxism to metastasize, that’s how long it took until there was basically no one around to counter signal its edicts. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:28:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you one of them thar Democratic Socialists? |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:37:46 PM EST
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Explain why you think millennials don’t have equal opportunity. Put the why into a very blanket statement. Every generation has faced its challenges. I’d love to know what non self induced challenges millennials have that are so much more than other generations. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It's a decades old canned response, everyone understands it. As a generation, millennials didn't have equal opportunity. There's little to nothing that can be done. Denying the visceral life experience of large groups pisses people off. It's a cry for revenge porn, and since the economic data showing it is public, it's an easily avoided mistake. Somehow rightist boomers keep repeating it. now, that may not even get you *admitted* to the bigger 4 year state schools. you'd likely have to transfer in from a 2 year college first. theres plenty of legitimate charts showing wages just arent keeping up. housing market is skyrocketing comparatively for the boomer/millenial times, for the most part, HSD wont get you anything beyond part time min wage im all about commies getting the chopper ride they deserve, and im 100% serious there, because I know its eventually going to come to that. its incredibly annoying to me that everone feels they have to go overboard to the extreme on their side of the position simply to try to get the other side to "give to the middle". or whatever it is the left and right is doing. because apparently what we have now is exactly what you get from that im a genx whos into the six figures who married a foreign bikini fitness competition model. not even joking. so its not like im pissed regarding my situation. and I do understand im by far the exception and its not pity I feel for them for sake of my success - look at everything I just typed before my not-so-humble-brag. its simply the truth. not that it matters we won the cold war but didnt even notice the culture war we were in until after it was lost. yea im a pessimist |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:38:05 PM EST
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People are trying to explain why so many young people are disaffected and the older generations offer base platitudes. It doesn't matter anymore anyway, no one can stop what's coming. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Education inflation, jobs require higher levels of education for the same level of advancement, and education costs far outstripped wage growth. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. Three off the top of my head. Work hard and don't have kids right away. This isn't hard. And maybe also actually listen to another persons opinion that you disagree with without screeching like you were in fire. It doesn't matter anymore anyway, no one can stop what's coming. What's your solution? Taking some people's stuff at the end of a gun barrel and giving to someone else because their challenges are like totally so hard? Just because the challenges are different doesn't mean that you get to use government to take other people's stuff. Or do you want the government to centrally plan the economy and run all of the businesses and everyone get's paid the same and only has to work a couple of days a week? Equally shared misery? Is that the ticket? I'm genuinely curious what you think should be done to minimize the iniquity inherent in the system. As always I vote for getting rid of at least 50% of the government every year until we find an equilibrium point, but, short of bloodshed that ain't going to happen. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:38:25 PM EST
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Also, the H1-B scam that has stagnated the upper-middle class tech industry wage since the dotcom bust 20 years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The economic vampirism from boomers and their brat kids caused this. Also, the southern invasion has devastated lower middle class wages. Couple that with the fact boomers and their brats destroyed our schools we have a perfect storm. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 5:39:46 PM EST
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Except that is not true. We have need for the skilled trades more than ever. Opportunity abounds for people with the right training and/or degrees. The problem is that the boomers were not trying to make a living with a feminist dance degree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Boomers had better opportunity. My trade, which is on the bottom of the totem pole for the most part can take up to a year to get accepted into Others more valuable trades, like electricians require much more than just an application. Often requiring a year of experience in the trades, which in and of itself can be a hurtle. As well as some scholastic proof of confidence in in mathematics. |
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