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I don't know what's wrong with me because that is an excellent deal. I just can't get past the looks of that lever design. I grew up watching old black and white reruns of westerns and that made me fall in love with the Winchester designs. I know it's dumb but aesthetics is everything to me. I can't be the only one. I even changed out the lever on my ranch hand because the large loop doesn't look close enough to the design on "Wanted Dead or Alive" with Steve McQueen. View Quote Hate the pistol grip on Marlin lever guns. They look much better with a straight stock. |
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This is a gun everyone should own. It's handy, it's cheap, it's a relatively nice gun (even after Remington buyout). It feels like it'd be the perfect knockaround rifle to throw in your UTV or lease truck if you're feeling like something other than an AR15. 33in overall length 16in barrel 5 round capacity 6.52lbs Walnut furniture Blued (more like parkerized IMO) finish https://www.marlinfirearms.com/sites/default/files/styles/mar_catalog_product/public/OUTDATED-70524_Marlin-336Y-%28Order%2370524%29.png?itok=YUMDyRkq Next to my 11.5" AR https://i.imgur.com/71FR8Ht.jpg View Quote |
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I load and shoot 130gr Speer hot core's @ 2600 out of my 20" SS 336. Took a doe last yr @ 270yds. That said I'll take it over your 11.5" 6.5. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Take an 11.5" 6.5 Grendel with the 129gr ABLR (factory load BTW) and shoot it next to a 20" .30-30 with the 150gr Hornady RN: 11.5" 6.5 Grendel with a 129gr ABLR gives you: 100yds 2066fps 1223ft-lbs 200yds 1928fps 1065ft-lbs 300yds 1796fps 924ft-lbs 400yds 1671fps 800ft-lb 20" barreled .30-30 with a 150gr RN Hornady: 100yds 1879fps 1176ft-lbs 175yds 1599fps 852ft-lbs 200yds 1515fps 764ft-lbs An 11.5" 6.5 Grendel has more energy at 400yds shooting a lighter bullet, than a 20" .30-30 does at 200yds. This is one of the easiest ways to show the layman how effective BC is compared to a known cartridge that dates back to 1895, and has been used to harvest untold numbers of deer and even large game at close range. That said, I still think lever guns are fun and an important historical step in looking for an action that would handle repeating capability with metallic cartridges. 100yds 2256fps 1469ft-lbs 200yds 1940fps 1086ft-lbs 275yds 1722fps 856ft-lbs 300yds 1653fps 789ft-lbs 11.5" Grendel beats the .30-30 hand load at that distance. Your 20" .30-30 Win with that load does well out to 100yds, but falls off quickly from there. In practical terms, you could be carrying a smaller, lighter, more compact AR15 with more ballistic potential if you wanted to, with faster follow-up opportunity, superior optics mounting, and multiple use capability for the little carbine/pistol. |
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I won a 336BL at an NRA dinner.
Pile of shit out of the box: - super sticky and rough cycling lever - no dehorning of the lever; slices the skin off your knuckles when the lever sticks - "5 round" magazine only fits 4 rounds If you want a Marlin, buy a used one from before Remington took over and fucked it up. |
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I have an early 50s 336 carbine with the 20” tube. It’s pretty compact as is. Actually use it for my truck gun
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Fugly. Lever guns are supposed to have straight stocks and skinny forends.
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I won a 336BL at an NRA dinner. Pile of shit out of the box: - super sticky and rough cycling lever - no dehorning of the lever; slices the skin off your knuckles when the lever sticks - "5 round" magazine only fits 4 rounds If you want a Marlin, buy a used one from before Remington took over and fucked it up. View Quote Not Of the same QC as JM Marlins but the action/accuracy was great! Price was also nice. Lots of trusted manufactures go through peaks and troughs of QC. Ruger and their mini’s, S&W with their revolvers, Taurus chronically, Remington in the past 15 years, ammo manufacture recalls, Sig MIM in india parts etc... Some Remlins being produced still have issues but it is up to you, the buyer to inspect it before you buy it, like any product. But if you balk at an entire product line due to 1 experience from 1 manufacture then you will not be able to buy any gun from any manufacture as any mass manufacturing process will produce defects/QC issues. Some more than others. Inspect before you buy. |
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If I could get a 16" in 44 or 45 for $399 there would be one in my safe.
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That reminds me of my old Winchester .44 Trapper. I gave it to one of my nephews (He always loved it) for his B'day one year.
Any chance that they make one with a straight stock? |
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Quoted: Here's the ballistics for the 130gr Speer Hot-Cor at 2600fps (BC is .248 G1): 100yds 2256fps 1469ft-lbs 200yds 1940fps 1086ft-lbs 275yds 1722fps 856ft-lbs 300yds 1653fps 789ft-lbs 11.5" Grendel beats the .30-30 hand load at that distance. Your 20" .30-30 Win with that load does well out to 100yds, but falls off quickly from there. In practical terms, you could be carrying a smaller, lighter, more compact AR15 with more ballistic potential if you wanted to, with faster follow-up opportunity, superior optics mounting, and multiple use capability for the little carbine/pistol. View Quote |
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I won a 336BL at an NRA dinner. Pile of shit out of the box: - super sticky and rough cycling lever - no dehorning of the lever; slices the skin off your knuckles when the lever sticks - "5 round" magazine only fits 4 rounds If you want a Marlin, buy a used one from before Remington took over and fucked it up. View Quote The latest models I've seen are gtg. Not the ones that have been standing in the LGS for 5yrs. Serial # check, very easy. If you have a hard on for them it won't matter no how anyway. |
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That reminds me of my old Winchester .44 Trapper. I gave it to one of my nephews (He always loved it) for his B'day one year. Any chance that they make one with a straight stock? View Quote |
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Quoted: I don't want to say anything bad about your rifle, but the new Marlins look better. Much darker blue and wood is much better looking, don't get pissed, it's JMO. I have both. View Quote I have an 1895 Remlin, and a few JM's. The JM"s are better made and more attractive than the Remlins in every way. |
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You can also look for the Glenfield models. Old Marlin quality with plain wood. This 30A cost me $190 (w/o scope) and has taken 5 deer in the last 3 seasons. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Glenfield_30_a_JPG-996878.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: So the Winchester model 64 is ugly? LOL http://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_13414/gi_100920513/WINCHESTER-MODEL-64-DELUXE-RIFLE_100920513_13414_9469DB3D18CC8278.JPG How about the 71? http://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_13414/gi_100691636/-WINCHESTER-MODEL-71-DELUXE-WITH-BOLT-PEEP_100691636_13414_495A887C391DFA96.jpg View Quote I actually prefer the pistol grip stocks. That's why I went with a 39A instead of a 9422. Liked it enough to add a few more Marlin levers, even though I'm in Winchester guy for the most part. Have a 94 and a 71 that Dad bought back in the day though. He wouldn't own a Winchester made after the late 50's. Even the late pre64 guns saw a drop in fit and finish. |
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Quoted: Mossberg's take: https://www.mossberg.com/product/464-spx-centerfire-lever-action-rifle-41026/ View Quote |
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My Win Trapper has a straight stock, in 30-30 though. My wife had one in 44 and I want to say it was without a PG. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That reminds me of my old Winchester .44 Trapper. I gave it to one of my nephews (He always loved it) for his B'day one year. Any chance that they make one with a straight stock? |
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Here's the ballistics for the 130gr Speer Hot-Cor at 2600fps (BC is .248 G1): 100yds 2256fps 1469ft-lbs 200yds 1940fps 1086ft-lbs 275yds 1722fps 856ft-lbs 300yds 1653fps 789ft-lbs 11.5" Grendel beats the .30-30 hand load at that distance. Your 20" .30-30 Win with that load does well out to 100yds, but falls off quickly from there. In practical terms, you could be carrying a smaller, lighter, more compact AR15 with more ballistic potential if you wanted to, with faster follow-up opportunity, superior optics mounting, and multiple use capability for the little carbine/pistol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Take an 11.5" 6.5 Grendel with the 129gr ABLR (factory load BTW) and shoot it next to a 20" .30-30 with the 150gr Hornady RN: 11.5" 6.5 Grendel with a 129gr ABLR gives you: 100yds 2066fps 1223ft-lbs 200yds 1928fps 1065ft-lbs 300yds 1796fps 924ft-lbs 400yds 1671fps 800ft-lb 20" barreled .30-30 with a 150gr RN Hornady: 100yds 1879fps 1176ft-lbs 175yds 1599fps 852ft-lbs 200yds 1515fps 764ft-lbs An 11.5" 6.5 Grendel has more energy at 400yds shooting a lighter bullet, than a 20" .30-30 does at 200yds. This is one of the easiest ways to show the layman how effective BC is compared to a known cartridge that dates back to 1895, and has been used to harvest untold numbers of deer and even large game at close range. That said, I still think lever guns are fun and an important historical step in looking for an action that would handle repeating capability with metallic cartridges. 100yds 2256fps 1469ft-lbs 200yds 1940fps 1086ft-lbs 275yds 1722fps 856ft-lbs 300yds 1653fps 789ft-lbs 11.5" Grendel beats the .30-30 hand load at that distance. Your 20" .30-30 Win with that load does well out to 100yds, but falls off quickly from there. In practical terms, you could be carrying a smaller, lighter, more compact AR15 with more ballistic potential if you wanted to, with faster follow-up opportunity, superior optics mounting, and multiple use capability for the little carbine/pistol. Not knocking the Grendel, great round but complete setup under 16” gets expensive fast. Lever guns mechanically are easy to fix, simple to operate and rarely are ever on any ban list and also easy to transport in all 50 states for said hunting. |
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The first yrs was a rough go. Marlin is crawling out the hole. The latest models I've seen are gtg. Not the ones that have been standing in the LGS for 5yrs. Serial # check, very easy. If you have a hard on for them it won't matter no how anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I won a 336BL at an NRA dinner. Pile of shit out of the box: - super sticky and rough cycling lever - no dehorning of the lever; slices the skin off your knuckles when the lever sticks - "5 round" magazine only fits 4 rounds If you want a Marlin, buy a used one from before Remington took over and fucked it up. The latest models I've seen are gtg. Not the ones that have been standing in the LGS for 5yrs. Serial # check, very easy. If you have a hard on for them it won't matter no how anyway. Call it a lack of motivation and passive aggressive revenge. Just because it says JM marked Marlin does not mean it’s better QC. |
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Quoted: That end cap vs the barrel band usually yields better accuracy. I prefer the sights on a 30A over the buckhorn of the 336. I put some fancy century limited wood on my Marlins, and put some stock Marlin Walnut on my 30A. View Quote Just don't get it too warm then it starts to string a little. |
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I bought a new 336Y that was built in Jan.2015. Fit and finish is every bit as nice, as my older JM's. All I did to mine, was add a Browning black horsehair sling and thicker recoil pad. The last mod made the LOP almost perfect, for me.
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I bought a new 336Y that was built in Jan.2015. Fit and finish is every bit as nice, as my older JM's. All I did to mine, was add a Browning black horsehair sling and thicker recoil pad. The last mod made the LOP almost perfect, for me. Just need to stock up more 30/30 ammo. View Quote |
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Quoted: The new Remlins have absolutely terrible fit and finish. I have an 1895 Remlin, and a few JM's. The JM"s are better made and more attractive than the Remlins in every way. View Quote You bought a shitty 1895. You should have bought a good one eh? |
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Got a Remlin 1895 in 45-70 a couple months back. Not Of the same QC as JM Marlins but the action/accuracy was great! Price was also nice. Lots of trusted manufactures go through peaks and troughs of QC. Ruger and their mini’s, S&W with their revolvers, Taurus chronically, Remington in the past 15 years, ammo manufacture recalls, Sig MIM in india parts etc... Some Remlins being produced still have issues but it is up to you, the buyer to inspect it before you buy it, like any product. But if you balk at an entire product line due to 1 experience from 1 manufacture then you will not be able to buy any gun from any manufacture as any mass manufacturing process will produce defects/QC issues. Some more than others. Inspect before you buy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I won a 336BL at an NRA dinner. Pile of shit out of the box: - super sticky and rough cycling lever - no dehorning of the lever; slices the skin off your knuckles when the lever sticks - "5 round" magazine only fits 4 rounds If you want a Marlin, buy a used one from before Remington took over and fucked it up. Not Of the same QC as JM Marlins but the action/accuracy was great! Price was also nice. Lots of trusted manufactures go through peaks and troughs of QC. Ruger and their mini’s, S&W with their revolvers, Taurus chronically, Remington in the past 15 years, ammo manufacture recalls, Sig MIM in india parts etc... Some Remlins being produced still have issues but it is up to you, the buyer to inspect it before you buy it, like any product. But if you balk at an entire product line due to 1 experience from 1 manufacture then you will not be able to buy any gun from any manufacture as any mass manufacturing process will produce defects/QC issues. Some more than others. Inspect before you buy. |
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This is a gun everyone should own. It's handy, it's cheap, it's a relatively nice gun (even after Remington buyout). It feels like it'd be the perfect knockaround rifle to throw in your UTV or lease truck if you're feeling like something other than an AR15. 33in overall length 16in barrel 5 round capacity 6.52lbs Walnut furniture Blued (more like parkerized IMO) finish https://www.marlinfirearms.com/sites/default/files/styles/mar_catalog_product/public/OUTDATED-70524_Marlin-336Y-%28Order%2370524%29.png?itok=YUMDyRkq Next to my 11.5" AR https://i.imgur.com/71FR8Ht.jpg View Quote |
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It uses a loading gate rather than tube feed, so all it needs is to be sent to your local smith for threading View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Fugly. Lever guns are supposed to have straight stocks and skinny forends. View Quote Attached File |
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