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Posted: 12/4/2023 12:20:53 AM EDT
[#1]
I voted for OP retarded.
OP es el retardo. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 12:25:00 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The infantry can only influence things on the tactical level. Not the strategic one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does that mean that all the blame for the recent failures in Iraq and Afghanistan lies squarely on the infantry? The infantry can only influence things on the tactical level. Not the strategic one. D-Day disagrees. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 12:25:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: D-Day disagrees. True. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 12:28:14 AM EDT
[#4]
I must beg to differ Sir!
SR/DA HALO….2001 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 12:43:49 AM EDT
[#5]
I say that there are two "cool jobs" in .mil.
You define what is cool, infantry, SF, Marine infantry, driving a big ass ship around the ocean, drive a tank, shoot big ass artillery boolits, OR you learn something job. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 12:47:13 AM EDT
[#6]
Had a Master Cheif that like to bandie about how bowel movements were the "Master Race."
We all play our part, no one person is above another unless you're a jackass. It's a chain and your a link in it! Thought that command potential made himself something else! He did command his own ship, but heavily relied on "support" personnel to make the ship huff and puff! |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 12:57:17 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He was an awesome NCO, he passed away in October. He was with 5th Special Forces in Vietnam, he had some incredible stories. 3 tours! RIP  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 12:59:41 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes indeed! Fuck carrying that base plate 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:00:52 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does that mean that all the blame for the recent failures in Iraq and Afghanistan lies squarely on the infantry? It all came down to Beau not winning more BSMs or getting enough conspicuous medals  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:27:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit, went through there in 2010. Probably saw you. I do remember one particular Florida phase RI that the rest of you really disliked. Like talk shit about him in front of student formations while he was standing right there. Think I know who you are talking about. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:29:47 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone wants to have sex with us. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Artillery may be the King of battle And Infantry the Queen But Armor is the chastity belt that keeps the bitch from getting raped!!!! Everyone wants to have sex with us. Correct. Everyone wants to bend you over and cum between your cheeks or in your mouth. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:31:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: There are only 2 MOSs. You are either Infantry or support. It doesn’t matter what branch. Prove me wrong. Infantry is 2 MOSs. Bravo and Charlie Used to be like 6 Infantry MOS taught at Benning when I went thoguht OSUT. 11 Mike , 11 Hotel , 11 Hotel Echo Niner, 11 Bravo Charlie Two and the remaining two 11 Bravo and 11 Charlie |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:33:43 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aviation has entered the room. MACS-5 2nd MAW here. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:35:24 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted: There are only 2 MOSs. You are either Infantry or support. It doesn’t matter what branch. Prove me wrong. Nuclear Missile, Bombers, and Subs. You don't need infantry except for cleanup. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:43:14 AM EDT
[#15]
Would. Have. I would have punched a Drill Instructor.
Grammatish Macht Frei! |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:52:21 AM EDT
[#16]
Cooks and what???
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:00:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Infantry is 2 MOSs. Bravo and Charlie Used to be like 6 Infantry MOS taught at Benning when I went thoguht OSUT. 11 Mike , 11 Hotel , 11 Hotel Echo Niner, 11 Bravo Charlie Two and the remaining two 11 Bravo and 11 Charlie I've been 11H, 11M an 11B...motorized 9th ID, light 193rd Panama, AASLT 101st an mech 81st HBCT/ABCT an unit was going strykers when i retired.. 11HE9 was the TOW M113 AKA hammerhead an 11BC2 was dragon gunner..both undesirable. 11B4J3 |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:09:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been 11H, 11M an 11B...motorized 9th ID, light 193rd Panama, AASLT 101st an mech 81st HBCT/ABCT an unit was going strykers when i retired.. 11HE9 was the TOW M113 AKA hammerhead an 11BC2 was dragon gunner..both undesirable. 11B4J3 Former 19DE9er |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:10:19 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Odd how much grunts are in the motorpool wanting their trucks fixed bc they hate walking and half the time making up shit on their 5988 Sooooo…..support. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:18:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been 11H, 11M an 11B...motorized 9th ID, light 193rd Panama, AASLT 101st an mech 81st HBCT/ABCT an unit was going strykers when i retired.. 11HE9 was the TOW M113 AKA hammerhead an 11BC2 was dragon gunner..both undesirable. 11B4J3 You're goddamned right. I hated carrying that bitch and while others were measuring fighting positions with K-Pots and M-16s, we were pacing shit off for a v shaped dragon pit with ammo storage on one side and sleeping hole on the other. Thank God I only had a limited run as one! |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:37:36 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been 11H, 11M an 11B...motorized 9th ID, light 193rd Panama, AASLT 101st an mech 81st HBCT/ABCT an unit was going strykers when i retired.. 11HE9 was the TOW M113 AKA hammerhead an 11BC2 was dragon gunner..both undesirable. 11B4J3 |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:39:25 AM EDT
[#22]
Infantry is a PSD for a radio.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:43:45 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Infantry is a PSD for a radio. GWOT and all of the MOUT changed that. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:45:01 AM EDT
[#24]
Only 2 things in the military, that is the only thing accurate you said.
They are Submarines and Targets |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:46:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:47:11 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was he a SSG? Think I know who you are talking about. He was. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:48:45 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Firmly in the OP is retarded camp. Who the fuck cares? Yep. He must be a skinny janitor who wished he was able to join |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:53:23 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Plenty of non 11B end up with the long tab and in SOCOM / JSOC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Long Tabbers would like a word…… They have infantry OSUT as a foundation. Plenty of non 11B end up with the long tab and in SOCOM / JSOC. We had a damn fueler and an Airforce National Guard Security Forces dude in my class… But realistically, there are infantry-type jobs, then there is support. Kind of binary |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:55:58 AM EDT
[#29]
I would argue the days of traditional infantry are drawing to a close.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:01:10 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol. I was getting ready to @ you. @FreeFallRetired @ArmyInfantryVet @Ben @Rock6 @Former11B I know I’m missing a few but I’m a few Makers Marks into hanging Christmas lights. Steelpot 11B has entered the chat. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 4:57:51 AM EDT
[#31]
I was looking for the voting options of "OP is drunk"
Short answer, OP is pretty much spot on. I was Enlisted Infantry and later commissioned and went Signal, so take that for what it is. My son, this past year finished Infantry BOLC at the "Maneuver Center of Excellence", so his perspective is that Armor officers are fat slugs, and whine like little bitches when they're outside when it's cold and wet. My son is the epitome of the Infantry cockiness of being at the tip of the spear and every other MOS is in direct support, creating effects, or creating more paperwork...  Old school Army (possibly in the Marines as well), branches were broken into three categories: Combat Arms, Combat Support, and Combat Service Support. There were too many hurt feelings, so they expanded those groups to the current categories: Current Branch Groupings: Maneuver, Fires, and Effects: Air Defense Artillery Armor Aviation Cavalry Scout Chemical Engineers Infantry Field Artillery Military Police Psychological Operations Special Forces Operations Support: Civil Affairs Cyber Electronic Warfare Military Intelligence Public Affairs Signal Force Sustainment: Adjutant General Army Music Chaplain Financial Management Judge Advocate General Medical Ordnance Transportation Quartermaster These days, you're combat arms if your branch can kill the enemy; you're Infantry if you can look them in the eye before terminating them. However, as I joked with my combat arms peers after turning Signal, I told those knuckle-dragging, bullet-eating, mud-slinging Neanderthal bitches...you can't talk about me, but you can't talk without me  Quite honestly, RETRANS was the reason I considered moving jumping from Infantry to Signal. Dudes on a hilltop with a great view, BBQ grill with delicious smelling BBQ chicken and steak, big ice cooler with some cold beverages, lawn chairs to get a tan when the sun came out, autonomy-nobody giving them shit (as long as comms were up), pogy-bait, a big box of porn mags, functional Special Forces attire options (doo rags on heads)...damn, Sarg, sign me the fuck up! I can't speak for the Marines, however, I've worked with enough to know that they all want to be bullet catchers even if their MOS isn't... ROCK6 |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:47:05 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why all the infantry is sucked in tight to the back of the tank where the phone is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That’s because you guys are always way behind. Then why all the infantry is sucked in tight to the back of the tank where the phone is. Dirty leg checking in. I never saw any tanks in the mountains 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:49:21 AM EDT
[#33]
Yes, only two kinds.
Nuclear weapons guys, and the guys we tested them on. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:19:51 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your son is a manly man among men. He must take after his mom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I spent the last decade or so waving at the infantry guarding the gate as I went through to go out to the war.  My son is infantry, and I spent my first deployment as a 19k in an infantry company so I have love for the grunts, but you can also save the blanket romantic idealism for somebody else. My kid https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45449/FB_IMG_1701649628466_jpg-3048539.JPG Your son is a manly man among men. He must take after his mom. You're killin me over here 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:21:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True But recovery for me was cleaning a rifle and gear. As a former 19D who experienced the post field vehicle maintenance, I was happy to convert to the Infantry. Then we go to Afghanistan, no tanks and we all ended up with vehicles. I have seen female MPs come back from firefights and seen a mechanic do heroic things. There are no blue cords in a firefight. Last deployment without one of the best SSG mechanics, we could have never accomplished many missions. Never understood the division and rivalry between MOSs, when shit goes to shit you are happy to have all the help you can get. Day we we're medavaced I was happy those docs were there. Week later I was happy our mechanic scored us a new truck. Other days even more happy when those CH47s landed, loved those guys. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Funny now many times I had speedbumps asking if they could stand behind my Abrams to warm up. But recovery for me was cleaning a rifle and gear. As a former 19D who experienced the post field vehicle maintenance, I was happy to convert to the Infantry. Then we go to Afghanistan, no tanks and we all ended up with vehicles. I have seen female MPs come back from firefights and seen a mechanic do heroic things. There are no blue cords in a firefight. Last deployment without one of the best SSG mechanics, we could have never accomplished many missions. Never understood the division and rivalry between MOSs, when shit goes to shit you are happy to have all the help you can get. Day we we're medavaced I was happy those docs were there. Week later I was happy our mechanic scored us a new truck. Other days even more happy when those CH47s landed, loved those guys. 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:38:22 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I voted for OP retarded. OP es el retardo. Same
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:42:48 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck carrying that base plate Light! Lol |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 7:03:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:42:53 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I voted for OP retarded. OP es el retardo. Get out of here with that filthy Russian talk. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:44:12 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Everyone wants to bend you over and cum between your cheeks or in your mouth. California entered the chat. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:45:58 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. He must be a skinny janitor who wished he was able to join You should see the size of my keyring. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:46:35 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Steelpot 11B has entered the chat. Welcome Uncle. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:47:38 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was looking for the voting options of "OP is drunk" Short answer, OP is pretty much spot on. I was Enlisted Infantry and later commissioned and went Signal, so take that for what it is. My son, this past year finished Infantry BOLC at the "Maneuver Center of Excellence", so his perspective is that Armor officers are fat slugs, and whine like little bitches when they're outside when it's cold and wet. My son is the epitome of the Infantry cockiness of being at the tip of the spear and every other MOS is in direct support, creating effects, or creating more paperwork... Old school Army (possibly in the Marines as well), branches were broken into three categories: Combat Arms, Combat Support, and Combat Service Support. There were too many hurt feelings, so they expanded those groups to the current categories: Current Branch Groupings: Maneuver, Fires, and Effects: Air Defense Artillery Armor Aviation Cavalry Scout Chemical Engineers Infantry Field Artillery Military Police Psychological Operations Special Forces Operations Support: Civil Affairs Cyber Electronic Warfare Military Intelligence Public Affairs Signal Force Sustainment: Adjutant General Army Music Chaplain Financial Management Judge Advocate General Medical Ordnance Transportation Quartermaster These days, you're combat arms if your branch can kill the enemy; you're Infantry if you can look them in the eye before terminating them. However, as I joked with my combat arms peers after turning Signal, I told those knuckle-dragging, bullet-eating, mud-slinging Neanderthal bitches...you can't talk about me, but you can't talk without me Quite honestly, RETRANS was the reason I considered moving jumping from Infantry to Signal. Dudes on a hilltop with a great view, BBQ grill with delicious smelling BBQ chicken and steak, big ice cooler with some cold beverages, lawn chairs to get a tan when the sun came out, autonomy-nobody giving them shit (as long as comms were up), pogy-bait, a big box of porn mags, functional Special Forces attire options (doo rags on heads)...damn, Sarg, sign me the fuck up! I can't speak for the Marines, however, I've worked with enough to know that they all want to be bullet catchers even if their MOS isn't... ROCK6 You raised your sons well. Welcome, fellow Harmony Church Brother. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:48:56 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dirty leg checking in. I never saw any tanks in the mountains LOL, me neither. Welcome my stinky brother. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:49:58 AM EDT
[#45]
Two
The Used and the Abused |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:25:16 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Elaborate for Navy please. Ya know how you never meet a guy in civilian life who pretends he was a deck ape or a cook? It is kind of like that. Even cops who never served like to play dress up and pretend to be Infantry. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:26:05 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Odd, Infantry sure does like screaming on the radio for Armor support though. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:30:51 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some wars don't involve much infantry. Sometimes it is just a naval fight. Sometimes it is just an aviation thing. The final time it will be just big missiles and canned sunshine. Every war involves infantry. Until some halfwit teen bitching about chow is comfortably standing on some real estate, you cannot declare victory A naval fight is a battle. It is not a war. Aviation alone has been solidly proven to be a horrible idea, and again, does not win a war. I have been hearing how 11B was done as a functional player for a long time now, then Nagorno Karabahk and the Ukraine happened. Seems like 11B is what holds ground and wins wars, even when both sides have nukes. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:33:17 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the Infantry capture Tokyo? I missed that part. Yes and no. Dugout Doug knew that an invasion of Honshu was a very bad idea. Once they surrendered, a tiny security detail accompanied him to Tokyo, where he essentially assumed the mantle of Emperor. The Infantry got him there, and Infantry accompanied him there. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 1:33:39 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: There are only 2 MOSs. You are either Infantry or support. It doesn’t matter what branch. Prove me wrong. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that 99% of the infantry who I served with would give the Sappers doing breaching equal or higher footing on the MOS totem pole. They just tend to forget them until they need them. |
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