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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: CO2 poisoning is not "falling asleep." Correct, CO2 poisoning is suffocating because you can't exhale/off-gas. We can survive ok, down to about 14% O2 (for a little while) but if CO2 gets too high, we can't exchange gasses. At 40% CO2, you would suffocate even if the O2 concentration was a normal 21%. Do the guys that kill themselves with a running car/garden hose get passed out drunk ? that's CO, not CO2 Dumb mistake. |
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Quoted: Here is a Triton submersible good for 13,000 feet. Carries two people https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/GullWing_Render_High_HQ.jpg Here is one good to 36,000 feet: https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/t36000-2-Surface.jpg View Quote Damn, that 2 seater is cool as hell. Am I crazy for saying I'd get in one tomorrow? |
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The more I learn about the materials and methods, the more it reminds me of...... 'Flat earther' dies in rocket crash |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/03FFD972-5748-4BCB-82E7-B2907EF24043_jpe-2859529.JPG View Quote Ozark Trail brand seat cushion. That guy spared no expense. Only the best shit Walmart offers for his |
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Today a lefty at work was complaining about all the resources wasted trying to rescue "five rich men". Was trying to draw a comparison to the migrant ship sinking on the way to Greece, as if somehow a choice was made between the two. Are these the talking points, or is this lefty crazier than the others?
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Quoted: They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hope the rescuers have a plan to breech the hull when , if they find it on the surface. Exactly. They STILL have to get the hatch open so the crew can get oxygen. Imagine being a rescuer watching the crew through the glass as they die...... They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. |
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Quoted: I discussed this with my wife. A lot of the USCG/USN assets being used are only out the cost of fuel; they were manned anyway. I'm about as anti-government-spending as they come but I don't mind this particular instance. View Quote Exactly. As long as it's not keeping them from an actual national security related mission it's seems like pretty good training. Trying to find a mini sub at 10x the depths they normally patrol sounds like playing on hard mode. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The props will be cheap. A propane tank, some carpet, a couple of old computer monitors and a PS3 controller and you are good for the most of the movie. Probably cost more than the real sub. those 4 upside down 500 gallon propane tanks for the float aint cheap, buddy |
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Quoted: Today a lefty at work was complaining about all the resources wasted trying to rescue "five rich men". Was trying to draw a comparison to the migrant ship sinking on the way to Greece, as if somehow a choice was made between the two. Are these the talking points, or is this lefty crazier than the others? View Quote If it was 4 arfcommers that paid $87 to do this, the only resources would be site resources wasted as a thread like this of everyone making fun of our dumbasses for doing it |
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Are there any reports of what the rest of the subs surface crew was and is doing? Who they are? Were there any experienced ppl on the ship itself? Or was the only one with an ounce of " knowledge" the CEO?
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Quoted: Sonobuoys are not recoverable… they can be pretty incredible to watch. Depending on the variety there are some which unfold like a really cool origami from the deployment tube into a massive array of sensors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How many sonobuoys have been dropped? Are they recoverable? Sonobuoys are not recoverable… they can be pretty incredible to watch. Depending on the variety there are some which unfold like a really cool origami from the deployment tube into a massive array of sensors. Pretty cool ?? P3 Sonobuoy Deployment |
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Quoted: Your brain would be crushed before it could interpret any visual signals. Should be a lights out situation with the nearly instantaneous compression acting on every surface. Plus the inrush forces would cause a huge pressure spike one all the gasses were compressed. I can't math that one out but it is way over that constant 6000psi. View Quote If I did my math correctly, the structural collapse would be at a velocity of around 19,000 mph or ~8500 meters per second or about the speed of det cord going off all around you and compressing you and everything in the space into a little ball. Just the pressure wave alone would obliterate you and the compression of the air would then instantly oxidize the atomized bits in the fractions of the microsecond before the water dispersed your debris field. That makes me wonder if you could use ocean pressure implosion to detonate a nuke instead of explosives? |
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Losing sunlight.
Titanic got 5 more. We don't need to lose more on a recovery mission. I vote time to start pulling our horns back in. Getting to the point if they located it now, probably still couldn't save crew given the many constraints already listed. |
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View Quote Scary, because it means death for a sub. Once they hear it they come back around and air drop a torpedo. |
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Quoted: Losing sunlight. Titanic got 5 more. We don't need to lose more on a recovery mission. I vote time to start pulling our horns back in. Getting to the point if they located it now, probably still couldn't save crew given the many constraints already listed. View Quote Why would we lose more? The pros use remote submersibles |
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Quoted: I was just looking at those. The Challenger Deep model cost $48 million in 2018 so the Titanic version should be cheaper. If I was a billionaire and wanted to see Titanic why not just find someone who has one and ride down with them, paying for the cost of the surface ship and everything else? No, instead go with the carbon fiber knock off Xbox controller woke new submarine company. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is a Triton submersible good for 13,000 feet. Carries two people https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/GullWing_Render_High_HQ.jpg Here is one good to 36,000 feet: https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/t36000-2-Surface.jpg I was just looking at those. The Challenger Deep model cost $48 million in 2018 so the Titanic version should be cheaper. If I was a billionaire and wanted to see Titanic why not just find someone who has one and ride down with them, paying for the cost of the surface ship and everything else? No, instead go with the carbon fiber knock off Xbox controller woke new submarine company. Yeah those Tritons look legit. Would do my homework but I'd probably be willing to get into one of those (NOT the 36k foot one though ) |
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GM Harris of RMS Titanic, Inc just said he doesn't have much hope in finding the Titan. He said those sounds could be coming from all kinds of sources made by ships crossing the Atlantic, including anchors banging on hulls.
Sound travels far through water. |
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Quoted: Today a lefty at work was complaining about all the resources wasted trying to rescue "five rich men". Was trying to draw a comparison to the migrant ship sinking on the way to Greece, as if somehow a choice was made between the two. Are these the talking points, or is this lefty crazier than the others? View Quote That’s because CNN ran an opinion piece saying EXACTLY that. It’s probably still up on their site |
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Quoted: Exactly. As long as it's not keeping them from an actual national security related mission it's seems like pretty good training. Trying to find a mini sub at 10x the depths they normally patrol sounds like playing on hard mode. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I discussed this with my wife. A lot of the USCG/USN assets being used are only out the cost of fuel; they were manned anyway. I'm about as anti-government-spending as they come but I don't mind this particular instance. Exactly. As long as it's not keeping them from an actual national security related mission it's seems like pretty good training. Trying to find a mini sub at 10x the depths they normally patrol sounds like playing on hard mode. I normally bitch about spending but I agree, excellent real world scenario training. Many lessons learned will come from this for those orgs. |
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View Quote Ok, this wins the internet today |
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'Your stepdad is lost at sea!' California man whose billionaire stepfather is on missing sub asks OnlyFans model to SIT on him 30 minutes after pleading for prayers, as he triggers war of words with Cardi B over Blink-182 concert.
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Quoted: I watched some of the construction of the hull and end caps and while it's neat engineering I wouldn't get on that thing for $1B. The chances of them not being dead is so small it's not even worth calculating. Having money doesn't make someone smart. It's too bad that guy had to get his son killed too. View Quote Your post pretty much sums it all up! |
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Quoted: Yeah those Tritons look legit. Would do my homework but I'd probably be willing to get into one of those (NOT the 36k foot one though ) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here is a Triton submersible good for 13,000 feet. Carries two people https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/GullWing_Render_High_HQ.jpg Here is one good to 36,000 feet: https://tritonsubs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/t36000-2-Surface.jpg I was just looking at those. The Challenger Deep model cost $48 million in 2018 so the Titanic version should be cheaper. If I was a billionaire and wanted to see Titanic why not just find someone who has one and ride down with them, paying for the cost of the surface ship and everything else? No, instead go with the carbon fiber knock off Xbox controller woke new submarine company. Yeah those Tritons look legit. Would do my homework but I'd probably be willing to get into one of those (NOT the 36k foot one though ) I want one to cruise around the lake. |
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Those 5 guys onboard probably paid more into taxes than the guys crying about the search expenses.
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Quoted: Are there any reports of what the rest of the subs surface crew was and is doing? Who they are? Were there any experienced ppl on the ship itself? Or was the only one with an ounce of " knowledge" the CEO? View Quote There are five women from that company who are probably in charge of all operations on site. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I watched some of the construction of the hull and end caps and while it's neat engineering I wouldn't get on that thing for $1B. The chances of them not being dead is so small it's not even worth calculating. Having money doesn't make someone smart. It's too bad that guy had to get his son killed too. Your post pretty much sums it all up! After watching that video there’s no way anyone make it out alive , unfortunately. |
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Quoted: If only one was alive that person could last a couple weeks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. If only one was alive that person could last a couple weeks. Not without water. |
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Originally Postedj By Anastasios: Not without water. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Postedj By Anastasios: Quoted: Quoted: They won't have to wait much beyond tomorrow morning to declare them dead - even if they were floating on the surface, they'd be trapped in the sub and suffocate. If only one was alive that person could last a couple weeks. Not without water. Or power for the CO2 scrubbers |
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Quoted: In a video i think they said it had emergency rations. I can't imagine they didn't toss in an extra few bottles of water View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Not without water. In a video i think they said it had emergency rations. I can't imagine they didn't toss in an extra few bottles of water Pssshh, they're surrounded by water, they'll be fine |
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