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Link Posted: 6/6/2024 11:43:16 PM EST
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Rubio?

How’s that a  good idea?
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 1:34:00 AM EST
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I like Dr. Carson, but I don't think he's fierce enough to fight this kind of political cut throat election with leftists.

I like Florida Rep. Byron Donalds.  He's a bulldog and very sharp.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 1:46:47 AM EST
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Carson, not only would be the better VP. Trump choosing Carson would be strategic in gaining more confidence from African american voters.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 6:09:59 AM EST
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Trump says that he is too “low energy”…

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According to you, his assessment “ridiculous and laughable.”
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Rather than a person of color or a person of coochie, I think it's a lot more important that he pick a person of youth that matches his energy level. Picking a woman isn't going to make all the women suddenly support him, and the same goes for blacks. I think all of those old conventional electoral truisms are gone for this particular race. People who claim to still be undecided now are likely gonna vote for the dem anyway. The plan should be to get out the vote and harvest the ballots, not change anybody's mind. A good show of energy will energize voters to get out and vote for a change.

Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.



This isn't brain surgery, it's politics.

It's fair that you are naive as to what takes in place in climbing the ranks in academic medicine, much less at a place the level of prestige that is Johns Hopkins. I can assure you his auspicious career was a game of politics every day. His time actually spent in operating rooms saving lives was a relatively small fraction how he spent the average day.


So every brain surgeon who has climbed the "ranks in academic medicine" is qualified to be an effective politician?

And I'm the one who is naive?   lol


If you don't believe that Carson is "too low energy" to be Trump's VP, why not ask Trump?

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."


Ouch.

Nobody is entertaining false dichotomy that every neurosurgeon is qualified to be an effective politician.  If you think Ben Carson doesn't have what it takes to be an effective politician, that is fair.  But saying it's because he is "low energy" is simply ridiculous and laughable. Fact is that "Low energy persons" don't make it through 7 grueling years of a Neurosurgery Residency working 110-120 hours a week, which is very likely what he had to endure at the time he trained and no work hour restrictions existed. In spite of the soft-spoken demeanor, the man is more "high energy" than anyone else on that list.


Trump says that he is too “low energy”…

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."

Can you guess who is in charge of determining who is "high energy" enough to be VP?

According to you, his assessment “ridiculous and laughable.”

So that makes you Trump's parrot?

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Carson is too low energy.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 6:26:39 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/7/2024 8:21:51 AM EST
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Carson since I can't have "Rhymes with cake."

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Link Posted: 6/7/2024 8:30:35 AM EST
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Attorney general...fingers crossed.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 8:40:32 AM EST
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Attorney general...fingers crossed.
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He must have a Cabinet position in mind for Ramaswami.


Attorney general...fingers crossed.



Yea, people who support and endorse the Rick Scott’s of the world are exactly what we need.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 8:42:03 AM EST
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Alex Jones is being saved to become the next Whitehouse Press Secretary...

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Guess Alex Jones didn’t make the cut…

If those listed, I like Doug the most


Alex Jones is being saved to become the next Whitehouse Press Secretary...

Bigger_Hammer

That would be hilarious, even if they just did it as a joke.

I can just imagine Jones walking out into the press room on day 1 to a shocked and speechless crowd of reporters.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 8:53:09 AM EST
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Attorney general...fingers crossed.
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He must have a Cabinet position in mind for Ramaswami.


Attorney general...fingers crossed.

You think the senate will confirm any maga choices? I don't.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 8:59:35 AM EST
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Good grief, why not just get it over with and pick Ben Shapiro or Rabbi Shmuley?  Every one of these schmucks is on AIPAC's payroll except Carson, and he's suggested that any theoretical Palestinian State be "slipped down into Egypt".

I guess it all will come down to who gives Bibi the best blowjob.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:00:50 AM EST
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Trump needs a Gov but im not crazy about Burgun.

He needs a woman for helping with abortion but Stefanik isn’t a gov.

Scott is cool and would help with blacks but we dont need SC.

Carson will help with blacks and is a smart man. He just doesn’t fire up voters.

We need Sarah Huckabee Sanders.





Correct and this list might be a head fake. Huckabee Sanders is by far the best choice out there.


No value added.


While I consider you one of the smarter posters here, I will say I couldn’t disagree more.

It counters the argument that he hates women.


Are you suggesting that there is a woman or man out there who refuses to vote for Trump because they believe that “he hates women”…

…and they will change their mind if he nominates Sanders?


I am absolutely suggesting that. When you talk about the lawsuits accusing him of raping a woman (EJ Carrol) and allegedly sleeping with a prostitute (Stormy Daniels) a woman to defend against that who is known to be a strong Christian family woman is a hell of a surrogate. There are a lot of folks on the far right that don’t like Trump, and while they may not vote for Biden, they might not vote at all. Huckabee Sanders speaks to the Christian Right and if she puts her credibility on the line it will help.

There is no other woman I can see on the ticket and I think there is something to be gained by having a woman. Not a big fan of identity politics, but I understand it, and she isn’t just a woman she is an eminently qualified woman.


I disagree.   No one who thinks Trump hates woman will be swayed by Sanders.

He would be better off with Donalds.  Exploit his success with Black men.



He can't pick Donalds being both from Florida.


Sure he can.

Well yes I know he can but he runs the risk of sabotaging it with the electoral college later. A very real and likely risk it's not worth it.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:01:43 AM EST
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He must have a Cabinet position in mind for Ramaswami.


Attorney general...fingers crossed.

You think the senate will confirm any maga choices? I don't.



I know right. They wouldn’t even confirm Charles Canterbury.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:01:56 AM EST
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You guys are trying to find a ‘28 pres candidate for VP. None of the viable ones will want it because they won’t gamble on tying themselves to Trump.

Someone who doesn’t want to run as pres afterwards (so a true outsider) or someone who could be a good candidate but has a damaged or weak enough brand currently that it’s worth the dice roll.
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He should pick a candidate who will help him win now. That will be hard enough. Most likely if Trump does win 2028 will go to a Democrat as a backlash. I hope not but let's worry about that fight later.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:03:56 AM EST
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He might be more valuable in Florida then. He might be a great successor to DeSantis and would probably have DeSantis's backing.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:05:38 AM EST
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TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."

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According to you, his assessment “ridiculous and laughable.”
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Rather than a person of color or a person of coochie, I think it's a lot more important that he pick a person of youth that matches his energy level. Picking a woman isn't going to make all the women suddenly support him, and the same goes for blacks. I think all of those old conventional electoral truisms are gone for this particular race. People who claim to still be undecided now are likely gonna vote for the dem anyway. The plan should be to get out the vote and harvest the ballots, not change anybody's mind. A good show of energy will energize voters to get out and vote for a change.

Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.



This isn't brain surgery, it's politics.

It's fair that you are naive as to what takes in place in climbing the ranks in academic medicine, much less at a place the level of prestige that is Johns Hopkins. I can assure you his auspicious career was a game of politics every day. His time actually spent in operating rooms saving lives was a relatively small fraction how he spent the average day.


So every brain surgeon who has climbed the "ranks in academic medicine" is qualified to be an effective politician?

And I'm the one who is naive?   lol


If you don't believe that Carson is "too low energy" to be Trump's VP, why not ask Trump?

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."


Ouch.

Nobody is entertaining false dichotomy that every neurosurgeon is qualified to be an effective politician.  If you think Ben Carson doesn't have what it takes to be an effective politician, that is fair.  But saying it's because he is "low energy" is simply ridiculous and laughable. Fact is that "Low energy persons" don't make it through 7 grueling years of a Neurosurgery Residency working 110-120 hours a week, which is very likely what he had to endure at the time he trained and no work hour restrictions existed. In spite of the soft-spoken demeanor, the man is more "high energy" than anyone else on that list.


Trump says that he is too “low energy”…

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."

Can you guess who is in charge of determining who is "high energy" enough to be VP?

According to you, his assessment “ridiculous and laughable.”


To be fair, a lot of what trump says is "ridiculous and laughable"
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:05:40 AM EST
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Rubio?

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It's not.
Picking any senator is fraught with risk, Florida is definitely leaning red but Rubio is well established in the Senate and would probably be much harder for the Democrats to unseat then taking the risk of an open election.

He's more valuable than the Senate where he is plus I'm not a big Rubio fan in the first place.

Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:08:50 AM EST
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Good grief, why not just get it over with and pick Ben Shapiro or Rabbi Shmuley?  Every one of these schmucks is on AIPAC's payroll except Carson, and he's suggested that any theoretical Palestinian State be "slipped down into Egypt".

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I know right

We’ve gotten to a point in this country where it’s all about the entertainment factor, and nothing more.   This thread is ripe with proof.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:39:47 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:53:54 AM EST
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Another vote for Carson
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 9:56:09 AM EST
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Carson out of that list
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Link Posted: 6/7/2024 10:02:18 AM EST
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Trump needs a Gov but im not crazy about Burgun.

He needs a woman for helping with abortion but Stefanik isn’t a gov.

Scott is cool and would help with blacks but we dont need SC.

Carson will help with blacks and is a smart man. He just doesn’t fire up voters.

We need Sarah Huckabee Sanders.



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Yeah, but she's ugly as a mud fence.

Voters/Public are more driven by monkey brain than logical brain.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 10:06:32 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/7/2024 10:11:02 AM EST
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Rubio?

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He is a slime ball and not to be trusted. Not draining the swamp with that pick
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 10:17:15 AM EST
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The two most important factors are the VP not be a RINO and be electable in 2028 and 2032.

• Florida Sen. Marco Rubio   - NO! He's a RINO and is not electable as president.  Plus he is also a Florida resident which would cost Trump electoral votes.
• Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance  - Possible but only if there is a good Ohio replacement that can be elected and re-elected to the Senate.
• S.C. Sen. Tim Scott  -  No.  He is the only black republican in the Senate, too mild mannered to be elected as president, and may not be replaced with a republican in S.C.
• N.D. Gov. Doug Burgum  - He's a good man but I don't think he is electable as president.  His energy position is short sighted.
• Florida Rep. Byron Donalds  - Who the hell is he?
• New York Rep. Elise Stefanik  - Very possible.  Checks a box, the little I've heard is good, and may be electable in '28.
• Doctor Ben Carson  - Eh.  Nice guy. Smart guy. For some reason not very likeable to the public and not a good presidential candidate.  Also he will be 77 in 2028.

I'd like to see Ramaswami on the list.  He's extremely smart, speaks very well though not eloquently, vows to RIF a huge portion of federal employees, and proclaims to be a 2A absolutist.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 10:47:57 AM EST
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I am aware of the reality of the situation.  Trump chooses HIS VP based upon HIS metrics.  His opinion matters.

Regardless, Carson IS very low energy.  It is glaringly obvious.
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Rather than a person of color or a person of coochie, I think it's a lot more important that he pick a person of youth that matches his energy level. Picking a woman isn't going to make all the women suddenly support him, and the same goes for blacks. I think all of those old conventional electoral truisms are gone for this particular race. People who claim to still be undecided now are likely gonna vote for the dem anyway. The plan should be to get out the vote and harvest the ballots, not change anybody's mind. A good show of energy will energize voters to get out and vote for a change.

Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.



This isn't brain surgery, it's politics.

It's fair that you are naive as to what takes in place in climbing the ranks in academic medicine, much less at a place the level of prestige that is Johns Hopkins. I can assure you his auspicious career was a game of politics every day. His time actually spent in operating rooms saving lives was a relatively small fraction how he spent the average day.


So every brain surgeon who has climbed the "ranks in academic medicine" is qualified to be an effective politician?

And I'm the one who is naive?   lol


If you don't believe that Carson is "too low energy" to be Trump's VP, why not ask Trump?

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."


Ouch.

Nobody is entertaining false dichotomy that every neurosurgeon is qualified to be an effective politician.  If you think Ben Carson doesn't have what it takes to be an effective politician, that is fair.  But saying it's because he is "low energy" is simply ridiculous and laughable. Fact is that "Low energy persons" don't make it through 7 grueling years of a Neurosurgery Residency working 110-120 hours a week, which is very likely what he had to endure at the time he trained and no work hour restrictions existed. In spite of the soft-spoken demeanor, the man is more "high energy" than anyone else on that list.


Trump says that he is too “low energy”…

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."

Can you guess who is in charge of determining who is "high energy" enough to be VP?

According to you, his assessment “ridiculous and laughable.”

So that makes you Trump's parrot?

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Carson is too low energy.


I am aware of the reality of the situation.  Trump chooses HIS VP based upon HIS metrics.  His opinion matters.

Regardless, Carson IS very low energy.  It is glaringly obvious.

Apart from Trump saying it, what is the basis that you feel Carson to be low energy? Give specific examples of what Carson does that is consistent with having low energy? Being "soft-spoken, polite" does not count.

Maybe you are upset Carson didn't go along with the accepted Covid & Vaccine narratives? Not saying he is, but his medical and scientific background might actually make him clear cut the best choice candidate on that list given recent history.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 12:46:05 PM EST
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Trump says that he is too “low energy”…

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."

Can you guess who is in charge of determining who is "high energy" enough to be VP?

According to you, his assessment “ridiculous and laughable.”
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In that case, energy level isn't important or Carson wouldn't be on Trump's short list.

Carson appeals to a demographic Trump is sucking at: well-educated whites.  This election is going to be won or lost on less than 50,000 votes spread across 4 or 5 states.

All the MAGA choices don't net him a single vote.  He needs someone specifically NOT MAGA, highly educated, who doesn't come across as a loon.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 1:07:11 PM EST
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He must have a Cabinet position in mind for Ramaswami.


Attorney general...fingers crossed.

You think the senate will confirm any maga choices? I don't.


Constant string of actings
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 1:08:40 PM EST
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How the hell is anyone on that list the swamp?
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Scott definitely is.
Link Posted: 6/7/2024 1:17:23 PM EST
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I like the good Dr. but from my conversations, most blacks think he's an uncle Tom. Too educated, too wealthy and too white.

Seems to be that way with any black politician on the right. Allen West was a little different because he had a tough guy persona, but he was still not too keen on the handouts and bs that typically get black candidates elected.
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I know right. They wouldn’t even confirm Charles Canterbury.
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He must have a Cabinet position in mind for Ramaswami.

Attorney general...fingers crossed.

You think the senate will confirm any maga choices? I don't.

I know right. They wouldn’t even confirm Charles Canterbury.

Link Posted: 6/7/2024 2:04:35 PM EST
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FPNI
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How the hell is anyone on that list the swamp?
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Rubio.
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Guess Alex Jones didn’t make the cut…

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Alex Jones is being saved to become the next Whitehouse Press Secretary...

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That would be hilarious, even if they just did it as a joke.

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Well, Alex Jones schedule just opened wide up, so perhaps we will actually see the LOLs when announcement is made for "Donald Trump's Presidential Press Secretary - Alex Jones!"



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The two most important factors are the VP not be a RINO and be electable in 2028 and 2032.

• Florida Sen. Marco Rubio   - NO! He's a RINO and is not electable as president.  Plus he is also a Florida resident which would cost Trump electoral votes.
• Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance  - Possible but only if there is a good Ohio replacement that can be elected and re-elected to the Senate.
• S.C. Sen. Tim Scott  -  No.  He is the only black republican in the Senate, too mild mannered to be elected as president, and may not be replaced with a republican in S.C.
• N.D. Gov. Doug Burgum  - He's a good man but I don't think he is electable as president.  His energy position is short sighted.
• Florida Rep. Byron Donalds  - Who the hell is he?
• New York Rep. Elise Stefanik  - Very possible.  Checks a box, the little I've heard is good, and may be electable in '28.
• Doctor Ben Carson  - Eh.  Nice guy. Smart guy. For some reason not very likeable to the public and not a good presidential candidate.  Also he will be 77 in 2028.

I'd like to see Ramaswami on the list.  He's extremely smart, speaks very well though not eloquently, vows to RIF a huge portion of federal employees, and proclaims to be a 2A absolutist.
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Never Stefanik

from wiki (I know): On March 26, 2019, Stefanik was one of 14 Republicans to vote with all House Democrats to override Trump's veto of a measure unwinding the latter's declaration of a national emergency at the southern border.
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So let’s do a former democrat.  Tulsi.  She is a vet, minority, and most converts to 2A are more diehard than others.  Also I know her personally she is a lot more conservative than many conservative senators and congressmen.
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Is she actually pro 2A now?
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She says so. She is also one of a handful saying the purpose of arms it to resist gov tyranny.
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What in the world are you babbling about?  Watch him and his mannerisms.  

You remind me of the Democrats who insist that you ignore what your eyes and ears tell you, and that behind the scenes, Biden is sharp as a tack and full of energy.

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Rather than a person of color or a person of coochie, I think it's a lot more important that he pick a person of youth that matches his energy level. Picking a woman isn't going to make all the women suddenly support him, and the same goes for blacks. I think all of those old conventional electoral truisms are gone for this particular race. People who claim to still be undecided now are likely gonna vote for the dem anyway. The plan should be to get out the vote and harvest the ballots, not change anybody's mind. A good show of energy will energize voters to get out and vote for a change.

Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.



This isn't brain surgery, it's politics.

It's fair that you are naive as to what takes in place in climbing the ranks in academic medicine, much less at a place the level of prestige that is Johns Hopkins. I can assure you his auspicious career was a game of politics every day. His time actually spent in operating rooms saving lives was a relatively small fraction how he spent the average day.


So every brain surgeon who has climbed the "ranks in academic medicine" is qualified to be an effective politician?

And I'm the one who is naive?   lol


If you don't believe that Carson is "too low energy" to be Trump's VP, why not ask Trump?

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."


Ouch.

Nobody is entertaining false dichotomy that every neurosurgeon is qualified to be an effective politician.  If you think Ben Carson doesn't have what it takes to be an effective politician, that is fair.  But saying it's because he is "low energy" is simply ridiculous and laughable. Fact is that "Low energy persons" don't make it through 7 grueling years of a Neurosurgery Residency working 110-120 hours a week, which is very likely what he had to endure at the time he trained and no work hour restrictions existed. In spite of the soft-spoken demeanor, the man is more "high energy" than anyone else on that list.


Trump says that he is too “low energy”…

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."

Can you guess who is in charge of determining who is "high energy" enough to be VP?

According to you, his assessment “ridiculous and laughable.”

So that makes you Trump's parrot?

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Carson is too low energy.


I am aware of the reality of the situation.  Trump chooses HIS VP based upon HIS metrics.  His opinion matters.

Regardless, Carson IS very low energy.  It is glaringly obvious.

Apart from Trump saying it, what is the basis that you feel Carson to be low energy? Give specific examples of what Carson does that is consistent with having low energy? Being "soft-spoken, polite" does not count.

Maybe you are upset Carson didn't go along with the accepted Covid & Vaccine narratives? Not saying he is, but his medical and scientific background might actually make him clear cut the best choice candidate on that list given recent history.


What in the world are you babbling about?  Watch him and his mannerisms.  

You remind me of the Democrats who insist that you ignore what your eyes and ears tell you, and that behind the scenes, Biden is sharp as a tack and full of energy.

Sleepy Doctor

Ironic being now you are "parroting" Jimmy Fallon and Democrat leftists from 9 years ago.
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Carson if he can stay awake.
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Never Stefanik

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So who does that leave?  Vance vs. Gabbard?
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How will "well-educated whites" respond to his wacky ideas about the pyramids and aliens and dinosaurs?
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Hell of a lot better than they’ll respond to anyone MAGA
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Is she actually pro 2A now?
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So let’s do a former democrat.  Tulsi.  She is a vet, minority, and most converts to 2A are more diehard than others.  Also I know her personally she is a lot more conservative than many conservative senators and congressmen.


Is she actually pro 2A now?


She’s as good a Republican as Trump is
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Rubio?

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Trump won't have him - Trump says Rubio has tiny hands...

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She’s as good a Republican as Trump is
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So let’s do a former democrat.  Tulsi.  She is a vet, minority, and most converts to 2A are more diehard than others.  Also I know her personally she is a lot more conservative than many conservative senators and congressmen.


Is she actually pro 2A now?


She’s as good a Republican as Trump is


That is a DECIDELY "unsettling" reassurance ...

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Make up your mind.  Am I parroting Trump or Jimmy Fallon?

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Rather than a person of color or a person of coochie, I think it's a lot more important that he pick a person of youth that matches his energy level. Picking a woman isn't going to make all the women suddenly support him, and the same goes for blacks. I think all of those old conventional electoral truisms are gone for this particular race. People who claim to still be undecided now are likely gonna vote for the dem anyway. The plan should be to get out the vote and harvest the ballots, not change anybody's mind. A good show of energy will energize voters to get out and vote for a change.

Not mutually exclusive.  Donalds is that guy.

Carson is too low energy.

You think a person can become a world-renowned neurosurgeon while being "too low energy".  This is funny.



This isn't brain surgery, it's politics.

It's fair that you are naive as to what takes in place in climbing the ranks in academic medicine, much less at a place the level of prestige that is Johns Hopkins. I can assure you his auspicious career was a game of politics every day. His time actually spent in operating rooms saving lives was a relatively small fraction how he spent the average day.


So every brain surgeon who has climbed the "ranks in academic medicine" is qualified to be an effective politician?

And I'm the one who is naive?   lol


If you don't believe that Carson is "too low energy" to be Trump's VP, why not ask Trump?

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."


Ouch.

Nobody is entertaining false dichotomy that every neurosurgeon is qualified to be an effective politician.  If you think Ben Carson doesn't have what it takes to be an effective politician, that is fair.  But saying it's because he is "low energy" is simply ridiculous and laughable. Fact is that "Low energy persons" don't make it through 7 grueling years of a Neurosurgery Residency working 110-120 hours a week, which is very likely what he had to endure at the time he trained and no work hour restrictions existed. In spite of the soft-spoken demeanor, the man is more "high energy" than anyone else on that list.


Trump says that he is too “low energy”…

TRUMP: “Ben Carson is a very low energy person, actually, I think Ben Carson is even lower energy than Jeb, if you want to know the truth..."

Can you guess who is in charge of determining who is "high energy" enough to be VP?

According to you, his assessment “ridiculous and laughable.”

So that makes you Trump's parrot?

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Carson is too low energy.


I am aware of the reality of the situation.  Trump chooses HIS VP based upon HIS metrics.  His opinion matters.

Regardless, Carson IS very low energy.  It is glaringly obvious.

Apart from Trump saying it, what is the basis that you feel Carson to be low energy? Give specific examples of what Carson does that is consistent with having low energy? Being "soft-spoken, polite" does not count.

Maybe you are upset Carson didn't go along with the accepted Covid & Vaccine narratives? Not saying he is, but his medical and scientific background might actually make him clear cut the best choice candidate on that list given recent history.


What in the world are you babbling about?  Watch him and his mannerisms.  

You remind me of the Democrats who insist that you ignore what your eyes and ears tell you, and that behind the scenes, Biden is sharp as a tack and full of energy.

Sleepy Doctor

Ironic being now you are "parroting" Jimmy Fallon and Democrat leftists from 9 years ago.

Make up your mind.  Am I parroting Trump or Jimmy Fallon?

You might not be aware of this, but Trump’s opinion is relevant when it comes to assessing Trump’s decision.

You actually think campaign rhetoric Trump spouted in 2015, before Trump really came to know Ben Carson, is relevant? That is really a foolish take. One would think you are able to recognize if that were actually the relevant Trump opinion today, Ben Carson would NEVER be on that short list.


The thing about is parrots, is they repeat just about anyone they want. Try offering novel assessment that is actually your own thoughts instead of trills, whistles, and squawks.
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The two most important factors are the VP not be a RINO and be electable in 2028 and 2032.

• Florida Sen. Marco Rubio   - NO! He's a RINO and is not electable as president.  Plus he is also a Florida resident which would cost Trump electoral votes.
• Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance  - Possible but only if there is a good Ohio replacement that can be elected and re-elected to the Senate.
• S.C. Sen. Tim Scott  -  No.  He is the only black republican in the Senate, too mild mannered to be elected as president, and may not be replaced with a republican in S.C.
• N.D. Gov. Doug Burgum  - He's a good man but I don't think he is electable as president.  His energy position is short sighted.
• Florida Rep. Byron Donalds  - Who the hell is he?
New York Rep. Elise Stefanik  - Very possible.  Checks a box, the little I've heard is good, and may be electable in '28.
• Doctor Ben Carson  - Eh.  Nice guy. Smart guy. For some reason not very likeable to the public and not a good presidential candidate.  Also he will be 77 in 2028.

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I can't get this point across enough: Stefanik is swamp to the core, and she's not very smart. She is the same as choosing Romney as a vp.

- fought against Trump while he was in office
- openly fought against the border wall
- was Karl Roves intern(!)
- never lived in the district she represents.  After redistricting,  she still doesn't.
- she just voted to keep the secret FISA courts

Pay attention-- she is a plant.  HORRIBLE choice for ANYTHING.
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