Why does it seem that most branch Covidians are also Uke bros and never Trumpers?

I rolled the dice and learned the hard way after getting my 2nd Pfizer shot. I ended up developing these intense hives that would pop up all around my body for about 8 months. They got super intense in the evening. Doctors refused to admit it. Finally I had one allergist acknowledge it was most likely from the vaccine but there wasn’t really much I could do for it. Finally after trying a shit ton of different things I found that this vitamin Querecetin and NAC would make the hives way less severe. Eventually they just stopped but I’m serious when I say life was hell. It wasn’t like a normal rash, I could itch till I was bleeding and the burning/stinging would not stop. What was the worse were the hives on my palms. Seriously crazy shit. This whole thing has made me extremely put off from any type of vaccines. Egg on my face, but you live and you learn.

Also to clarify- I had never had any types of hives/skin issues before this in my entire life. Nothing had changed in my life at the time. I made my wife throw away all her indoor plants (lol), switch to hypoallergenic everything, ate a bland diet, but nothing helped.

As a nurse with no shots I've had covid twice . I've counted about 6 waves so far in the facilities I've worked . 90% of the residents are vaccinated.  The residents have pretty much had covid 4-5 times . Symptoms are about 50/50 ( vs asymptomatic)still but the perceivable symptoms basically were nothing after delta(cold-allergy) .

The decline in people post vaccine was more observable .

You need to keep up, chart was posted with no other data but the chart (could have been made in MS Paint for all we know).  Later the poster claimed from the UK but still didn't give a link.  I just asked how they calculated the chart.  Do you think 4 and closer to 5% of a population could influence a graph based on per capita?  

Here are the facts, there are more excess deaths in a majority of the highly kung flu jabbed countries.  The US also had some of the worst outcomes because we as a nation are fat asses and lazy overall.  Most of all that died in the first year were reported to have 4 or more comorbidities, in other words one foot in the grave.  Somehow after the "golden jab" that some on here praise we have more people dying, the really bad off people died in 2020.  If you take the same timeline of from when the first case in the US was proclaimed by the CDC in Jan of 2020 until the jab was available in say Jan of 2021 and give the same amount of time after the jab was available; more people died after the jab was in the public.  How could that be, you killed the really sick in 2020 by denying medical care until it was too late and the variants were not as deadly by the time the jab was out.  So back to the problem, we are now having a higher death rate of healthier people.  Many more rare cancers being found, more heart issues, and other odd medical problems.  

Not everyone is going to die on the spot, some already have though.  How long did it take before the government admitted agent orange was bad, what did they say about it when it was being used?  Why would you trust what they say now, maybe you should ask a few in Tuskegee experiment what they think about all this.

New signal . This one you will find in the US due to vaccinating children down to 6 months . Canada only goes to 6 years . Every other country has gone well into later life or dropped the recommendation all together.


Injecting this crap in people who can't defend themselves truly pisses me off .

* so they reconfirmed the myo/Pericarditis signal .They also showed this new signal . Both have profound effects on the child's trajectory through life .

Alright , you got me . I can't keep up this charade any longer . The shots are making people healthier , smarter , stronger . People are now at their peak of existence due to mrna . The excess deaths are fake ....there are actually  more children being born. The chicoms are too dumb to figure out our trick . The signals just show new heart tissue and new brain tissue bursting forth.  It's curing all diseases . If it weren't for these miracle mrna vaccines we all would've been dead .

I think there was a study that showed smart people got vaccinated at a higher rate . Less car accidents too .

Vaccine vaginitis?

Replace  sand with spike protein

You should take up jogging. Or cross fit. Whatever you can do that gets that heart rate up. Don’t skip any boosters either. Be healthy.

I've checked out different voices and analysis. Prasad would typically considered towards the left ...much like Brett Weinstein  . But here he points out all the good .

Story time:

Arrive at a residence for a male in his mid 30's who is pulseless, not breathing (PNB). Do CPR and quite a bit of rapid emergency resuscitation measures with no success, sadly.

The man was in bed with his daughter reading a bed time story just prior. He had cold-like symptoms after receiving a recent COVID 19 booster. He was in good health, fit (ran marathons), and had no medical history. The details surrounding his vaccination were heavily documented, more than I've ever seen before.

I'm not able to say for sure that the booster killed that man, but I believe it did.

How many of those products offer incentives to use their product?

All of them

If you think that's a red flag, it tells me your red flag detector is broken.

We were just talking about this at work the other day. Talking about heart attacks, and one of the carpenters told us he had his at age 38.....10 years go.

Now if you say anything like that the first thing some tard will say is "Did you get the shot?".

Excess deaths spiked in 2020 because of Covid and other factors (fentanyl is a hell of a drug) and is still elevated but not by as much.

We are a fat and sick nation, a vaccine is the least of most people's worries.

I don't personally know anyone that took the shot and got sick or injured.

I know several people that got Covid the first year and got extremely sick, one almost died in the hospital from it.

First thing he said when I talked to him was "I'll take the fucking shot any day of the week if I never have to go through that again".

One nurse that we know had heart issues for over a year after catching it early in 2020, she had to cut back her work hours and start seeing a cardiologist.

Name a product that costs nothing to get, is rewarded with a $50 visa card from public health, and doesn't prevent the very thing it is incentivized to prevent.

It would be interesting to see the BMI of those who convinced the vax is such a threat. There's enough unbiased data out there to see that the vaccine isn't responsible for the excess deaths. It's been posted here and either ignored or dismissed.

The "anecdotes" I read are super cringy and not even worth responding to. The only people they're fooling are each other and they're further fueling their paranoia.

What about the evidence to the contrary? You've ignored or dismissed that, right?

Real life experience is a relatively honest way of providing information. I wish I could say that he was the only one possibly affected by the booster that I've personally witnessed.

When local doctors and nurses are changing their mind about the vaccine, I feel it's a great idea to at least listen to what they have to say. The government always has an "interest" in everything they do for the people. If you think the government is selflessly dedicating all this money, research, and action to provide a shell of what a solution should be in the guise of "public safety", you truly are too far absorbed in their rhetoric.

“It took my breath away.” —Dr. Drew on the new study shows 50% of young men who got myocarditis after the vaccine now have permanent heart damage and he doesn’t understand why this isn’t front page news. And he recommends injured students sue any school that mandated it. pic.twitter.com/rlUgKhCS2l

— Te\uD835\uDD4FasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) October 19, 2023

I like the name a product you have to get or your employer will fire you because the government said to.

I don't know anyone who had an issue with the vaccine. When the vaccines were rolling out I worked in an organization with about 2000 people who were all required to get vaccinated. I knew a couple hundred of them personally. No issues, and years later still haven't heard anything.

I had one relative and one acquaintance die from COVID and a few people I knew get very sick. One hospitalized in his 40s.

A guy up the street from me "died suddenly" of a heart attack at 40. Healthy guy. Happened summer of 2020. In 2019 a guy I went to school with had his 12-year-old daughter "die suddenly" of a brain aneurysm.

The biggest tell for any ridiculous conspiracy theory is to ask yourself "what would it take to make this conspiracy work?" In this case, some kind of dangerous side effect of the mrna vaccine (what kind exactly it's hard to say, conspiracy theories are often incoherent) is being covered up by the government/pharma/hospitals/doctors/researchers. To make that work, internationally, would require the collusion of at least hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who didn't give a shit about watching their friends and family poison themselves. The motivation of this teeming multitude of sociopaths is unclear.

It's garbage. The conspiracists have built themselves an opulant fantasy world that's completely insulated from reality with the exception of any logical explanation as to the who/what/when/where/how of the issue. Hollywood thinking has permeated this country and it's not going to end well.

This is more of a Obamacare style product . Unlike auto insurance or seat belts it has a larger health/financial risk . It also is not free . Not only is everyone already paying for it they're also paying for those cheesy incentives . The bill comes in the form of inflation . Unlike commercial products you're not given an option of something else or to entirely leave it alone .

The two products here really are capitalism and dictatorial socialism .

I remember young guys with heart failure being a big deal. A mayor here had a MI and died at Ike 42. It was in the news for days. Remember how shocked people were when John Candy, James Gandalfini or Michael Clark Duncan died? They weren’t even young and there were some compounding issues.

Anecdotes are just that and why big data matters.

If we want to play the anecdote game, my company was requiring it as well.  I know someone who had to be hauled via ambulance after getting the jab due to an adverse event.

Incorrect - there is a definate correlation between vax take-up and continued excess death, from region to region, and this is using govt or health authority sourced data.

Oh yeah? Let's see it. If this were actually true it would be posted all over here. There was a report I've posted several times by the a Society of Actuaries that contradicts your statement.

Not collusion in an organised way, but groupthink driven by politics and big pharma $$$, supported by media interests, a govt-interfered social media, and a large portion of the population very easily and thoroughly led by these sophisticated influence campaigns. People not influenced were keeping their heads down through fear of job loss, doxxing, peer pressure, and of being labelled nutters, in exactly the way people in this very thread, have labelled people nutters and tried to equate them with fringe theorists.

I don't want to play the anecdote game. My anecdotes are a demonstration of how people have varying anecdotes. I don't want to play the big data game either because every study or data set that undermines the conspiracy is rejected by the conspiracy theorists as part of the conspiracy.

I want to play the how the fuck is this supposed to work game. How come out of all the countries in the world, all the national health systems, all the universities, all the researchers, nobody's stood up and said, hey everybody, there's a giant conspiracy afoot! Are all these doctors and officials lying when they say they vaccinate themselves and their families or are they all, somehow, just not as smart as yootube and GD?

I remember playing this game with 9/11. "Oh man WTC 7 was brought down with explosives." "Oh yeah? All those firefighters saw their buddies killed in front of them and didn't say anything?" "Oh no man the firefighters didn't know." "So the entire FDNY is too stupid to figure it out?"

It doesn't make a lick of sense.

You've been directed to it over, and over. You usually have some silly retort not at all relevent to the data, and/or impunge the source. But we all know these are the tactics when the underlying data and interpretation are legitimate and you don't have a meaningful, useful, response.

So there we go, one for yootubers and GD are smarter than all the doctors and scientists all over the world, without exception. Noted.

Again, false equivilency and purposeful misdirection, rather than address the comment directly. You guys have nothing at all, not a single talking point on your side remains undestroyed, and can only come back by misquoting and strawmen.

And the vaccine they are most worried about, Pfizer’s, didn’t even use Warp Speed money for development. It was in development for over a decade and there was a SARS Cov1 vaccine already made.

Oh, sorry, it's not that you're that much smarter, it's that you're all fierce independent thinkers unafraid to go against the grain and confront the truth just like in the movies while all the doctors and scientists in the world are like, "Wow, there are so many people around me dying suddenly with mysterious cancers and heart problems and blue hands but I mustn't think it's the vaccine or I'll be ostracized. Come here little Billy, let me give you your jab, it's what I'm told is best."

Ok but still no well-reasoned comeback then ? No well thought through, logical, long-standing talking point that still stands, no well-presented viewpoint ? Just another silly post with no contribution to the thread ?

There are those that got jabbed and now have major health problems as a result of it. They also recognize its because of the experimental gene therapy that was untested and (obviously) doesn't have any long term safety studies done.

Then there are those that got jabbed up and will militantly defend their reasoning to do so, jabbing up multiple times. They disregard the fact it was brand new technology with little to no human safety trials done on any real scale, let alone no long term safety study. They also trusted the pharmaceutical industrial complex and government blindly. Because we all know how trustworthy they are. But we must recognize for them that it's important to defend something truly permanent because they can't take it out, they can't undo it. They are stuck with it. Its very important to their overall psychological health. Because if you believed you'd been poisoned you'd turn into a hypochondriac, constantly concerned with any skipped heart beat you may be about to die. Or with any small twitch you might be developing tremors. Or maybe their cardiologist recently put them on Eliquis (brought to you by Pfizer) for blood clot issues. They just happen to now need that.

The brain is a powerful thing and I understand exactly why they do this - It's self preservation. They must convince themselves all the examples of vaccine injury are just people that would have had that happen anyways. Or all the young people with heart attacks or myocarditis just would have had those issues anyways. And that's ultimately fine. The brain is a powerful thing and it's probably better they live in fantasy land that nothing is really happening to vaxxed individuals. And I have even come to recognize the "why" they do this. And we should all be accepting of that approach, again because they cannot undo it. If they could undo it and take the mRNA out and its effects I'd be telling them they are fucking stupid for not. And I know most of them would absolutely take it out if it was an option, though they will never admit it here or publicly.

Then there are the posters here that didn't jab up, didn't trust a massive pharmaceutical industrial complex that stood to make hundreds of billions of dollars, didn't trust the government. We didn't trust Fauci because he fucked over AIDS patients in decades previous and was totally inconsistent with what he said in regard to Covid and the jabs. We didn't trust doctors because they wouldn't tell us what's in the jab. That information was hidden. And they couldn't provide us with any safety study, because they didn't exist. Most of us aren't searching for reasons to back up our decision to no jab up because it's very clear we made the right choice not doing so. None of us have regret about not getting it. Literally zero of us.

You fail to see the logic in the all mighty dollar:

"Medicare is now paying higher reimbursement rates for hospitals, physicians, pharmacies and others to administer the COVID-19 vaccine."

There were incentives handed out not only to "customers" to get free donuts but came from the top as well....follow the money.

You are stuck on conspiracy instead of Murphy.  Not like we have prior examples. Vioxx is strong one.

It's one thing to come up with a novel treatment for a novel virus ....but to come straight out of the gate with "it stays in the arm" ...that is a level of ignorance that should have shut the whole program down that instant.

* you don't have to jump to philosophical arguments or talk of conspiracies.  There are mechanisms of action , evidence based facts that have been understood for generations.

Add to that the manufacturers and distributors were granted immunity through the PREP act.

"Qualified Persons
In March 2020, the Secretary issued a PREP Act Declaration covering COVID-19 tests, drugs and vaccines providing liability protections to manufacturers, distributors, states, localities, licensed healthcare professionals, and others identified by the Secretary (qualified persons) who administer COVID-19 countermeasures. "

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And at the top of all that you have unelected bureaucrats directing the whole show . Short-circuiting representative democracy and trampling the most important individual rights like what they have to put in their body without informed consent .

Excess deaths hearing in UK parliament today




MP Andrew Bridgen is quite articulate unlike myself so that should make it an enjoyable listen .

I wasn't familiar but a brief overlook immediately invites questions about scale. How many patients and how many studies vs mrna vaccines? How many companies involved? The claims here are immediate effects of all kinds, Vioxx was long-term usage.

Not a strong example. Very weak example, and an actual conspiracy by the drug maker. Not at all comparable in scope and scale to what we're talking about here. Remember, the contention here is that this is an immediate, on-going health effect - of some kind - that is clearly and irrefutably visible to Joe Yootube, involving multiple companies, with 100's of millions BILLIONS of patients, all over the world.

That ain't Murphy.

Same constitutional make up mostly .

Willful ignorance or some perverse self righteousness. Gotta try to control others.

What changed ?



Hey , how bout them t-cells ?!

FPNI

Spike protein on mitochondria



Mechanisms of action . Desperate black pillers lack this knowledge and pretend that it doesn't exist .

That's a very specific example to ask for. It looks like Walgreens offered a $10 dollar gift card if you got the annual flu vaccine. I suppose you could use that to buy your lottery tickets,  Mac N Cheese, beer or donuts.