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Posted: 2/7/2020 12:54:26 PM EST
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If HB 961 passes and becomes law, it's going to have an interesting effect on the machine gun market. Good luck finding a </=12 round mag for a MAC 10, Sterling, STEN, Thompson, etc. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 12:56:01 PM EST
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Because who in Virginia is going to want to buy or continue to own a machine gun for which they can only use a 12 round magazine (if one is even available)? Good luck finding a </=12 round mag for a MAC 10, Sterling, STEN, Thompson, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If HB 961 passes and becomes law, it's going to have an interesting effect on the machine gun market. Good luck finding a </=12 round mag for a MAC 10, Sterling, STEN, Thompson, etc. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 12:56:57 PM EST
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Fuck 'em. Come take them.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 12:57:26 PM EST
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RED FLAG every one of those commies at 2am. And do it every other day. I think I saw x brandishing a gun in his/her driveway. Ops my bad. must have been a cell phone. Do they have rf law in VA?
Sister state, w. va. keeping it real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcRTaD1dLPA |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 12:58:12 PM EST
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I think it’s time for the Virginia members to go silent on this site. 
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Posted: 2/7/2020 12:59:04 PM EST
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Interesting analysis. Presumably the large supply hitting the market would result in prices going down? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:04:51 PM EST
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The United States is NOT a "Democracy" whereby 51% can vote away the rights of 49% - we have a Republic with a Bill of Rights which limits government and recognized God-given rights which cannot be taken away. This is the KEY issue. BUT we still those CONservative celebrity politicians and talking heads repeating the lie that we are a democracy. I give President Trump much credit for emphasizing at the State of the Union address that we are a Republic - now is the time for him to back up his words with strategy and action. Always trying to have the majority on the side of the 2nd Amendment will NOT work in the long run and certainly will NOT work in high-population democrat/socialist/communist districts. What takes the power away from the democrat/socialist/communist strategy or redistricting and flooding cities (with illegals who can vote/immigrants who want their flavor of socialism they are used to) is a strict adherence to what a Republic is. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:05:22 PM EST
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:06:37 PM EST
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 HATEBREED - To The Threshold |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:10:08 PM EST
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Not they. I am simply reading what is written and concluding that since a) they did not exempt NFA items b) a judge would likely find that the legislative intent would include machine guns if it includes semi automatics as well and c) most machine guns can be used in semi automatic mode or can be converted to semi automatic, therefore they satisfy the definition as it stands. VA has over 35k registered machine guns. Even if 10k of those are post 86 dealer samples (this ratio aligns with the national ration of transferable to non-transferable MGs in the NFATR), that's 25,000 machine guns that will either be sold out of state before HB 961 goes into effect or become locked out of the market unless the owner moves to a different state. At current MG pricing (avg. $20k for transferable), that's around $500 million in inventory that could be pushed into the market in a very short period of time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If anyone hasn't read the amended copy that passed, here's a link" https://committees.lis.virginia.gov/pdfs/drafts/20107888D.pdf Chasing around all the little amendments to other statutes that it affects and stuff like changing from "Shall" to "Is", strikethroughs, it's crazy. I don't like when they change "Shall" to "Is". Not a lawyer, but "shall" and "may" are important words. "Is" and other changes like it bother me, but I don't know why. My reading of this revised version is that you can gift an assault firearm to a family member and that the executor of a will / estate can transfer (only transfer, NOT SELL) to a beneficiary. There is no provision to allow one to sell to a licensed dealer or to an out of state buyer. § 18.2-308.9 (A) also states: "Assault firearm" includes any part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert, 418 modify, or otherwise alter a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts that may be readily 419 assembled into an assault firearm. "Assault firearm" does not include (i) a firearm that has been rendered 420 permanently inoperable, (ii) an antique firearm as defined in § 18.2-308.2:2, or (iii) a curio or relic as 421 defined in § 18.2-308.2:2. That definition would make a machine gun, which can be readily assembled into a semi automatic meeting the other criteria, fall into the category. These two sections, when combined, basically means if you own machine guns in VA you can never sell them so long as you remain a VA resident, and your heirs can inherit them but not sell them if they are also VA residents. Either way, your gun dies with you. VA has over 35k registered machine guns. Even if 10k of those are post 86 dealer samples (this ratio aligns with the national ration of transferable to non-transferable MGs in the NFATR), that's 25,000 machine guns that will either be sold out of state before HB 961 goes into effect or become locked out of the market unless the owner moves to a different state. At current MG pricing (avg. $20k for transferable), that's around $500 million in inventory that could be pushed into the market in a very short period of time. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:13:25 PM EST
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Now this "what if"
What if I move out of State (retirement to someplace else). Can I export my "Assault Weapons" with me? Also, if I were to take my "Assault Weapon" out of Virginia (out of State shoot, hunt, CC) would bringing it back into Virginia be considered "importing" an "Assault Weapon". |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:14:37 PM EST
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Did you really think that would have any impact on the outcome? Seriously. A month ago I was pointing out in other VA threads that NYS counties were passing anti SAFE resolutions and it had absolutely no impact on the outcome. I was basically told that VA would be different. In the end there is no difference. Your rural low population counties are having state law dictated to you by a handful of high population urban counties whose residents probably think of their country cousins as embarrassing hicks. Same as NYS Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Absolutely..... Not my state, but this shit pisses me off. The state spoke. All of those sanctuary counties, and they push this through anyway. Every one of them needs to be jobless (the rest isn't COC). A month ago I was pointing out in other VA threads that NYS counties were passing anti SAFE resolutions and it had absolutely no impact on the outcome. I was basically told that VA would be different. In the end there is no difference. Your rural low population counties are having state law dictated to you by a handful of high population urban counties whose residents probably think of their country cousins as embarrassing hicks. Same as NYS |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:14:54 PM EST
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Unless, since Virginia already has a law requiring "Registration" of machine guns then it could be interpreted that the Legislators never intended to include machine guns in the "Assault Weapon" ban which does NOT require Registration. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If anyone hasn't read the amended copy that passed, here's a link" https://committees.lis.virginia.gov/pdfs/drafts/20107888D.pdf Chasing around all the little amendments to other statutes that it affects and stuff like changing from "Shall" to "Is", strikethroughs, it's crazy. I don't like when they change "Shall" to "Is". Not a lawyer, but "shall" and "may" are important words. "Is" and other changes like it bother me, but I don't know why. My reading of this revised version is that you can gift an assault firearm to a family member and that the executor of a will / estate can transfer (only transfer, NOT SELL) to a beneficiary. There is no provision to allow one to sell to a licensed dealer or to an out of state buyer. § 18.2-308.9 (A) also states: "Assault firearm" includes any part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert, 418 modify, or otherwise alter a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts that may be readily 419 assembled into an assault firearm. "Assault firearm" does not include (i) a firearm that has been rendered 420 permanently inoperable, (ii) an antique firearm as defined in § 18.2-308.2:2, or (iii) a curio or relic as 421 defined in § 18.2-308.2:2. That definition would make a machine gun, which can be readily assembled into a semi automatic meeting the other criteria, fall into the category. These two sections, when combined, basically means if you own machine guns in VA you can never sell them so long as you remain a VA resident, and your heirs can inherit them but not sell them if they are also VA residents. Either way, your gun dies with you. VA has over 35k registered machine guns. Even if 10k of those are post 86 dealer samples (this ratio aligns with the national ration of transferable to non-transferable MGs in the NFATR), that's 25,000 machine guns that will either be sold out of state before HB 961 goes into effect or become locked out of the market unless the owner moves to a different state. At current MG pricing (avg. $20k for transferable), that's around $500 million in inventory that could be pushed into the market in a very short period of time. It's not like most law-makers understand (or are even aware of) NFA intricacies. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:16:21 PM EST
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Now this "what if" What if I move out of State (retirement to someplace else). Can I export my "Assault Weapons" with me? Also, if I were to take my "Assault Weapon" out of Virginia (out of State shoot, hunt, CC) would bringing it back into Virginia be considered "importing" an "Assault Weapon". |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:18:24 PM EST
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Not yet People need to call there reps and complain But I'd like to see gun manufacturer's and ammo companies private vendors tell the state of Virginia and the Leo's in counties that aren't sanctuary gun county's to pound sand No new firearms or repairs No magazines except what us peasants get to buy No ammo sales No training classes No plates or armor Let them use slingshots and sticks Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I absolutely love how gun owners shit on other gun owners. No wonder the other side wins. People need to call there reps and complain But I'd like to see gun manufacturer's and ammo companies private vendors tell the state of Virginia and the Leo's in counties that aren't sanctuary gun county's to pound sand No new firearms or repairs No magazines except what us peasants get to buy No ammo sales No training classes No plates or armor Let them use slingshots and sticks ...a long time ago in other commie states |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:19:03 PM EST
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This shit passes, we'll never get rid of it; even if VA throws these assholes out in Nov.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:21:20 PM EST
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https://virginiageneralassembly.gov/house/chamber/chamberstream.php
Scroll to 8:59:30 am. Those coward, cock sucking, motherfucking, commies cut the video when people started bitching!!!!!! This shit needs to end NOW!!! For the good of OUR country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:24:18 PM EST
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Marbury V Madison....?
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:27:57 PM EST
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Possible. But if they pass a new law that affects "firearms" based on features, then MGs that happen to have those features WILL be covered by the law, regardless of what their intent might have been. It's not like most law-makers understand (or are even aware of) NFA intricacies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If anyone hasn't read the amended copy that passed, here's a link" https://committees.lis.virginia.gov/pdfs/drafts/20107888D.pdf Chasing around all the little amendments to other statutes that it affects and stuff like changing from "Shall" to "Is", strikethroughs, it's crazy. I don't like when they change "Shall" to "Is". Not a lawyer, but "shall" and "may" are important words. "Is" and other changes like it bother me, but I don't know why. My reading of this revised version is that you can gift an assault firearm to a family member and that the executor of a will / estate can transfer (only transfer, NOT SELL) to a beneficiary. There is no provision to allow one to sell to a licensed dealer or to an out of state buyer. § 18.2-308.9 (A) also states: "Assault firearm" includes any part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert, 418 modify, or otherwise alter a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts that may be readily 419 assembled into an assault firearm. "Assault firearm" does not include (i) a firearm that has been rendered 420 permanently inoperable, (ii) an antique firearm as defined in § 18.2-308.2:2, or (iii) a curio or relic as 421 defined in § 18.2-308.2:2. That definition would make a machine gun, which can be readily assembled into a semi automatic meeting the other criteria, fall into the category. These two sections, when combined, basically means if you own machine guns in VA you can never sell them so long as you remain a VA resident, and your heirs can inherit them but not sell them if they are also VA residents. Either way, your gun dies with you. VA has over 35k registered machine guns. Even if 10k of those are post 86 dealer samples (this ratio aligns with the national ration of transferable to non-transferable MGs in the NFATR), that's 25,000 machine guns that will either be sold out of state before HB 961 goes into effect or become locked out of the market unless the owner moves to a different state. At current MG pricing (avg. $20k for transferable), that's around $500 million in inventory that could be pushed into the market in a very short period of time. It's not like most law-makers understand (or are even aware of) NFA intricacies. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:28:21 PM EST
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So they pass anti guns laws, then immediately hide behind men with guns? Did I get that right? |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:32:26 PM EST
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How does that shit work? I mean you can buy a threaded glock or M&P barrel in fucking NC or TN or WVa, how the fuck can they prove you didn't have it before July 1st, 2020? Fucking assholes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Magazines over 12 rounds banned. Floorplate issue removed. Silencers can be kept, but you need your threaded barrel weapons purchased before July1. No registration requirement. Grandfather banned weapons. Still total horseshit and unacceptable. ETA banned mags over 12 rounds must leave the state, for those that would comply. I mean you can buy a threaded glock or M&P barrel in fucking NC or TN or WVa, how the fuck can they prove you didn't have it before July 1st, 2020? Fucking assholes. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:33:50 PM EST
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If anyone hasn't read the amended copy that passed, here's a link" https://committees.lis.virginia.gov/pdfs/drafts/20107888D.pdf |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:34:55 PM EST
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It does kinda make you wonder what we really gain by these peaceful protests. On the one hand, we show that we are responsible, law-abiding citizens that won't lash out like our radical lefty counterparts. On the other hand, we show that we are responsible, law-abiding citizens that won't lash out like our radical left counterparts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a good idea. Why don't you guys have another rally where you willingly disarm yourselves on the illegal order of a tyrant? And then voluntarily walk into a cage being over-watched by government snipers. I'm sure they'll change their mind this time. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:35:19 PM EST
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What would have happened if every one didn't leave and peacefully allowed themselves to be arrested? Made the national news. What would the charge be?
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:36:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To my fellow Virginians: I think that Virginians (if the hammer falls and the Bill is signed into law) need to keep their own council and not communicate any 2A goings-on (legal or extralegal) with those who you do not trust....Much less here on this site as many members here are not our friends and will dime us out in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:36:24 PM EST
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I figure that you would have enjoyed being with the VSP on the "riot line". That's the way you usually roll.....But enough of you. 
To my fellow Virginians: I think that Virginians (if the hammer falls and the Bill is signed into law) need to keep their own council and not communicate any 2A goings-on (legal or extralegal) with those who you do not trust....Much less here on this site as many members here are not our friends and will dime us out in a heartbeat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you really think that would have any impact on the outcome? Seriously. A month ago I was pointing out in other VA threads that NYS counties were passing anti SAFE resolutions and it had absolutely no impact on the outcome. I was basically told that VA would be different. In the end there is no difference. Your rural low population counties are having state law dictated to you by a handful of high population urban counties whose residents probably think of their country cousins as embarrassing hicks. Same as NYS
To my fellow Virginians: I think that Virginians (if the hammer falls and the Bill is signed into law) need to keep their own council and not communicate any 2A goings-on (legal or extralegal) with those who you do not trust....Much less here on this site as many members here are not our friends and will dime us out in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:36:52 PM EST
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lol, that would be great if they did... ...a long time ago in other commie states Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I absolutely love how gun owners shit on other gun owners. No wonder the other side wins. People need to call there reps and complain But I'd like to see gun manufacturer's and ammo companies private vendors tell the state of Virginia and the Leo's in counties that aren't sanctuary gun county's to pound sand No new firearms or repairs No magazines except what us peasants get to buy No ammo sales No training classes No plates or armor Let them use slingshots and sticks ...a long time ago in other commie states https://championshipsubdivision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=32172 |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:40:21 PM EST
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Now this "what if" What if I move out of State (retirement to someplace else). Can I export my "Assault Weapons" with me? Also, if I were to take my "Assault Weapon" out of Virginia (out of State shoot, hunt, CC) would bringing it back into Virginia be considered "importing" an "Assault Weapon". |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:48:50 PM EST
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Too late. My mistake in actually trying to argue or win people to our side. My wife's family is strongly anti gun and democrat Catholics through and through. I'm just curious to which one will nark on me first. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you really think that would have any impact on the outcome? Seriously. A month ago I was pointing out in other VA threads that NYS counties were passing anti SAFE resolutions and it had absolutely no impact on the outcome. I was basically told that VA would be different. In the end there is no difference. Your rural low population counties are having state law dictated to you by a handful of high population urban counties whose residents probably think of their country cousins as embarrassing hicks. Same as NYS
To my fellow Virginians: I think that Virginians (if the hammer falls and the Bill is signed into law) need to keep their own council and not communicate any 2A goings-on (legal or extralegal) with those who you do not trust....Much less here on this site as many members here are not our friends and will dime us out in a heartbeat.
We are at the talking/persuading stage now.....That's over if/when the bill is signed into law and Virginians have to move forward with other efforts both legal and perhaps extralegal. I'm just saying to choose your confidants wisely going forward. To that end some random chest-beater trying to egg you on here on this site might not be the best person to confide in nor divulge any of your plans to. As far as those types go they can eat static as I won't be baited. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:50:33 PM EST
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I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
We are at the talking/persuading stage now.....That's over if/when the bill is signed into law and Virginians have to move forward with other efforts both legal and perhaps extralegal. I'm just saying to choose your confidants wisely going forward. To that end some random chest-beater trying to egg you on here on this site might not be the best person to confide in nor divulge any of your plans to. As far as those types go they can eat static as I won't be baited. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you really think that would have any impact on the outcome? Seriously. A month ago I was pointing out in other VA threads that NYS counties were passing anti SAFE resolutions and it had absolutely no impact on the outcome. I was basically told that VA would be different. In the end there is no difference. Your rural low population counties are having state law dictated to you by a handful of high population urban counties whose residents probably think of their country cousins as embarrassing hicks. Same as NYS
To my fellow Virginians: I think that Virginians (if the hammer falls and the Bill is signed into law) need to keep their own council and not communicate any 2A goings-on (legal or extralegal) with those who you do not trust....Much less here on this site as many members here are not our friends and will dime us out in a heartbeat.
We are at the talking/persuading stage now.....That's over if/when the bill is signed into law and Virginians have to move forward with other efforts both legal and perhaps extralegal. I'm just saying to choose your confidants wisely going forward. To that end some random chest-beater trying to egg you on here on this site might not be the best person to confide in nor divulge any of your plans to. As far as those types go they can eat static as I won't be baited. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:53:59 PM EST
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Work has been slow, but i am going to try and set aside some money for the lawsuits.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:57:00 PM EST
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What would have happened if every one didn't leave and peacefully allowed themselves to be arrested? Made the national news. What would the charge be? |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:58:38 PM EST
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Carter just told me this - need 5 total in the House to vote "no". I think there's one another I know of off top of my head who won't vote for it, so we need 3 more.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:58:47 PM EST
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Virginians have four free states bordering them West Virginia,Kentucky, Tennessee,and North Carolina. Is not difficult to cross into any of these states and bring back anything the bill prohibits with some careful creative deception. Let the retards enforce it hope this costs them hundreds of millions of dollars on wasted resources. 80% receivers are a blessing and hopefully the advancements in 3d printing becomes a major obstacle for those clowns.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 1:59:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When these bills pass the best thing possible would be for Virginia members to go radio silent and Goatboy to nuke all of the current and archived Virginia threads from orbit. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:01:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trespassing. That is what they threatened arrest for. It's paid for with the taxpayers money, just like all their salaries. STOP PAYING TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:04:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThe Barrett 50 is the 'Official' State gun of the state of Tennessee. Thanks Ronnie.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:04:52 PM EST
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What would have happened if every one didn't leave and peacefully allowed themselves to be arrested? Made the national news. What would the charge be? 
Jokes aside I guess it's easy for me to sit here and say it but damn, I honestly don't know if I could have complied or not.....When I watched the full length version of the roust-out by the VSP my blood boiled sort of like when the impact of 9-11 hit me.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:04:57 PM EST
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Virginians have four free states bordering them West Virginia,Kentucky, Tennessee,and North Carolina. Is not difficult to cross into any of these states and bring back anything the bill prohibits with some careful creative deception. Let the retards enforce it hope this costs them hundreds of millions of dollars on wasted resources. 80% receivers are a blessing and hopefully the advancements in 3d printing becomes a major obstacle for those clowns. Then they will send letters demanding surrender of firearms or successively larger fines after the next big shooting after that. There will NEVER be mass enforcement. Confiscation by cop won’t happen. They will bleed you dry with fines, liens against your house, and garnishing wages. Registration is the death knell. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:07:03 PM EST
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:07:20 PM EST
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Quoted: When these bills pass the best thing possible would be for Virginia members to go radio silent and Goatboy to nuke all of the current and archived Virginia threads from orbit. 
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:08:13 PM EST
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:08:29 PM EST
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We need a solid 2nd advocate to join the SCOTUS.  Lock stock and two smoking barrels - Death by dildo |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:10:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Virginia isn’t going to actively enforce it. They will put it on the books and call it a win, just like CA, CT, NY, NJ, MD. They will ignore the 4-5% compliance rate. A few incidental arrests will occur. Then the next shooting will have them pushing registration. Then they will send letters demanding surrender of firearms or successively larger fines after the next big shooting after that. There will NEVER be mass enforcement. Confiscation by cop won’t happen. They will bleed you dry with fines, liens against your house, and garnishing wages. Registration is the death knell. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:13:49 PM EST
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Carter just told me this - need 5 total in the House to vote "no". I think there's one another I know of off top of my head who won't vote for it, so we need 3 more. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/241023/20200207_135223_jpg-1267482.JPG He was on the Committee but I think he didn't show up to vote to avoid taking a stance. There's a pressure point there, I think. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:16:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Delegate Josh Cole of the 28th has said he's against anything that confiscates things from people. He was on the Committee but I think he didn't show up to vote to avoid taking a stance. There's a pressure point there, I think. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:16:23 PM EST
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:20:06 PM EST
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Given the potential for antigun activists to try and use posts here as justification for red flagging people, sanitizing the site of all VA related content may be something the owners should consider closely. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:20:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Suppose they were so "shocked" that they all broke out in a case of spontaneous mass "shortness of breath".....Most of those there were not spring chickens you know. Jokes aside I guess it's easy for me to sit here and say it but damn, I honestly don't know if I could have complied or not.....When I watched the full length version of the roust-out by the VSP my blood boiled sort of like when the impact of 9-11 hit me. I probably would have been arrested. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 2:22:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not changing my avatar.
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