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Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:10:38 AM EST
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Damn...another one that doesn't know the difference between training and competition.  

No wonder there are so many crappy shooters on this forum
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He is using a race gun with mrds, aftermarket trigger... So using your logic, he must not know how to shoot.



Damn...another one that doesn't know the difference between training and competition.  

No wonder there are so many crappy shooters on this forum


could be worse, they could just be crappy trolls like you

I train with my competition gun, why would you not? I'm going to run my Glock for weeks and dry fire it 10,000 times a day so that when I draw my 2011 on the clock my grip angle is wrong and I cant find my sight picture....yup makes perfect sense
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:10:54 AM EST
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That's true my first time shooting this year was at Keystone
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Damn...another one that doesn't know the difference between training and competition.  

No wonder there are so many crappy shooters on this forum

Well most of them don't ever shoot... thats probably a big part of it

That's true my first time shooting this year was at Keystone


guns are icky
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:15:13 AM EST
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I man what kind of psycho can’t spot for themselves.
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I've got a dope card taped to my rifle now after forgetting it on one of my runs...

We also didn't allow spotters to give corrections this year... about half the runners cleared rifle with targets out to 550.

I man what kind of psycho can’t spot for themselves.


I can spot all day long with my PRS rifle but with most gas guns and LPVOs its very very hard to spot misses at those distances and the chances of you catching trace is little to none. An experienced shooter can look for grass/dirt/etc. to make the call but you also have to know your rifle dope.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:15:27 AM EST
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Especially bolt guns.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:19:09 AM EST
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Especially bolt guns.
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guns are icky


Especially bolt guns.


extra ew
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:26:23 AM EST
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could be worse, they could just be crappy trolls like you

I train with my competition gun, why would you not? I'm going to run my Glock for weeks and dry fire it 10,000 times a day so that when I draw my 2011 on the clock my grip angle is wrong and I cant find my sight picture....yup makes perfect sense
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Why would you want guns that point differently?  That is stupid.  Not surprising for GD, but stupid nonetheless.

If you knew what you were doing, which you obviously you don't by your comments.  You would training a perfect trigger press on a gun that had a bad trigger, so that when using a great trigger, you couldn't F it up.


Let me guess...You have stuck in B class forever...but think you are a great shooter, so all you practice is easy stuff at the range to make yourself feel better
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:36:12 AM EST
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Why would you want guns that point differently?  That is stupid.  Not surprising for GD, but stupid none the less.

If you knew what you were doing, which you obviously you don't by your comments.  You would training a perfect trigger press on a gun that had a bad trigger, so that when using a great trigger, you couldn't F it up.


Let me guess...You have stuck in B class forever...but think you are a great shooter
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could be worse, they could just be crappy trolls like you

I train with my competition gun, why would you not? I'm going to run my Glock for weeks and dry fire it 10,000 times a day so that when I draw my 2011 on the clock my grip angle is wrong and I cant find my sight picture....yup makes perfect sense



Why would you want guns that point differently?  That is stupid.  Not surprising for GD, but stupid none the less.

If you knew what you were doing, which you obviously you don't by your comments.  You would training a perfect trigger press on a gun that had a bad trigger, so that when using a great trigger, you couldn't F it up.


Let me guess...You have stuck in B class forever...but think you are a great shooter


You are literally stuck as a B class troll ??????? try harder bud

Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:44:20 AM EST
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You are literally stuck as a B class troll ??????? try harder bud

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Better to be a shitty troll than a shitty shooter.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:50:37 AM EST
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Better to be a shitty troll than a shitty shooter.
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You are literally stuck as a B class troll ??????? try harder bud



Better to be a shitty troll than a shitty shooter.

Actually being a shitty shooter is based you get high dollar guns
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 7:54:35 AM EST
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Poast practiscore results.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 8:31:33 AM EST
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As a former B class shooter I feel attacked.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 8:34:26 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/21/2023 8:39:10 AM EST
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Why would you want guns that point differently?  That is stupid.  Not surprising for GD, but stupid nonetheless.

If you knew what you were doing, which you obviously you don't by your comments.  You would training a perfect trigger press on a gun that had a bad trigger, so that when using a great trigger, you couldn't F it up.


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Correct. Top performance isn't really compatible with switching platforms constantly.  Top athletes NEVER switch out equipment just for fun.  

The issue is that a lot of shooters have a collector and consumer mindset, and then try to justify and rationalize around that.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 9:30:00 AM EST
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I'm not a USPSA member, so I can't even put my scores in the calculator. I'm probably a C class shooter.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 9:35:06 AM EST
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As a current B class shooter I feel attacked. At least I'm making an effort!
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 11:25:01 AM EST
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Except that this is arfcom, where you happen to be both because two is one, one is none.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 11:29:52 AM EST
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Correct. Top performance isn't really compatible with switching platforms constantly.  Top athletes NEVER switch out equipment just for fun.  

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Uh-huh, can you prove this statement or is this more trolling from you?

No issue at all, a lot of shooters have this thing called freedom to choose and freedom to buy what they want, and it's biased people like you who try to shit on things using fallacies to argue by.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 11:43:19 AM EST
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Why would you want guns that point differently?  That is stupid.  Not surprising for GD, but stupid nonetheless.

If you knew what you were doing, which you obviously you don't by your comments.  You would training a perfect trigger press on a gun that had a bad trigger, so that when using a great trigger, you couldn't F it up.


Let me guess...You have stuck in B class forever...but think you are a great shooter, so all you practice is easy stuff at the range to make yourself feel better
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What's your definition of stuck in B class forever?
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 12:16:36 PM EST
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Correct. Top performance isn't really compatible with switching platforms constantly.  Top athletes NEVER switch out equipment just for fun.  

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Wut?

They do it all the time.  Michael Jordan did it.  Tiger Woods did it (multiple times).  

Major league baseball players change bats, cleats, gloves, etc all the time, even in the middle of a game.  Paraphrasing Brady Anderson "I had already hit a homer with this bat earlier in the day, and I was going to use it again.  In the middle of my warmups I stopped, grabbed another bat, tarred it up.  Sometimes you want to know its you, not the bat."




Link Posted: 6/21/2023 12:18:36 PM EST
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Not moving up to A.  B class is the easiest to get to. You can get there by just shooting, without any training.  Getting out of B takes training with a focus on what you're not good at
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 12:26:59 PM EST
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XC master race

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@RTBA-8

I'm late to the party. Which SF holster is that?
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 12:45:47 PM EST
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Not moving up to A.  B class is the easiest to get to. You can get there by just shooting, without any training.  Getting out of B takes training with a focus on what you're not good at
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It can take awhile to move out of B class though... I've seen you use "B class" a few times to try and indicate someone isn't training. There's a big difference between someone who just shows up and shoots matches and has had classifier hook up to get them to B class, and someone actively training, and just hasn't had the classifiers line up to class up.

Both would still be forever B class though, as they haven't classed up yet.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 12:53:08 PM EST
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It can take awhile to move out of B class though... I've seen you use "B class" a few times to try and indicate someone isn't training. There's a big difference between someone who just shows up and shoots matches and has had classifier hook up to get them to B class, and someone actively training, and just hasn't had the classifiers line up to class up.

Both would still be forever B class though, as they haven't classed up yet.
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Classifiers should be seen as high risk stages with little to gain for match performance but a lot to lose.

They will line up when you don't go hero or zero and just shoot them with in your ability
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 12:57:00 PM EST
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Wut?

They do it all the time.  Michael Jordan did it.  Tiger Woods did it (multiple times).  

Major league baseball players change bats, cleats, gloves, etc all the time, even in the middle of a game.  Paraphrasing Brady Anderson "I had already hit a homer with this bat earlier in the day, and I was going to use it again.  In the middle of my warmups I stopped, grabbed another bat, tarred it up.  Sometimes you want to know its you, not the bat."




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Brady Anderson was so roided up he went from 20 to 49 homers from one year to the next.  lol
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:07:03 PM EST
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Classifiers should be seen as high risk stages with little to gain for match performance but a lot to lose.

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I've only hero or zeroed a classifier once... different clubs had the same one back to back... zeroed it going harder on the 2nd run... then the first club never ran it.

Shooting the classifiers like I did every stage led to a ton of sandbagger comments though, and match results far above B class...
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:16:15 PM EST
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It's from RDR Gear, this one specifically:

https://rdrgear.com/products/modified-safariland-holsters-w-custom-wrap-sig-x5-legion-vp9-series-walther

@towerofpower94

Expensive but worth the money IMO
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:32:07 PM EST
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It's from RDR Gear, this one specifically:

https://rdrgear.com/products/modified-safariland-holsters-w-custom-wrap-sig-x5-legion-vp9-series-walther

@towerofpower94

Expensive but worth the money IMO
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I'm late to the party. Which SF holster is that?


It's from RDR Gear, this one specifically:

https://rdrgear.com/products/modified-safariland-holsters-w-custom-wrap-sig-x5-legion-vp9-series-walther

@towerofpower94

Expensive but worth the money IMO


Grartzi

Which option did you pic? Guessing it's the 6360 or 6390 RDS modified for Stacatto XC w/ WML, or is it the one modified for the 5" Prodigy?

Getting my first 2011, a Platypus with 5" threaded barrell, in a couple months and need to get an RDS and WML capable holster for it that uses the SF mounting holes for an RTI hanger.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:33:26 PM EST
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Better to be a shitty troll than a shitty shooter.
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You are literally stuck as a B class troll ??????? try harder bud



Better to be a shitty troll than a shitty shooter.

I guess you would know. Good luck upgrading your abilities.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:39:42 PM EST
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Not moving up to A.  B class is the easiest to get to. You can get there by just shooting, without any training.
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I don't agree with that at all.  You might be able to get to B without any training by getting lucky enough on(or reshooting) enough classifiers, but then you just get dragged by Cs at matches who are actually putting real work in.  

Stand and shoot classifiers(most of them are that) really aren't indicative of much other than one's stand and shoot ability.   They rarely test movement or decision making/stage planning ability.  

I'd much rather get a match bump(which is much more indicative of your overall skill level) than get it through a classifier.

C is much easier to get to than B.  Anyone who shoots even a little bit generally skips right over D and starts as a C, but most people aren't going to get to B by just shooting a weekly match and no other training.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:41:46 PM EST
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Staccato is to guns as overlanding is to trucks.  

Impractical, expensive Instagram fad.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:41:53 PM EST
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Why would you want guns that point differently?  That is stupid.  Not surprising for GD, but stupid nonetheless.

If you knew what you were doing, which you obviously you don't by your comments.  You would training a perfect trigger press on a gun that had a bad trigger, so that when using a great trigger, you couldn't F it up.


Let me guess...You have stuck in B class forever...but think you are a great shooter, so all you practice is easy stuff at the range to make yourself feel better
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why are you so angry?
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:55:14 PM EST
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Man things are getting spicy up in here!

I saw that holster above.    Currently have a Blackhawk for my C2.

I need another with level 2 retention.  Anyone have any other recommendations?  I hate that Blackhawk.  Its the one off the staccato website.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:57:25 PM EST
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Man things are getting spicy up in here!

I saw that holster above.    Currently have a Blackhawk for my C2.

I need another with level 2 retention.  Anyone have any other recommendations?  I hate that Blackhawk.  Its the one off the staccato website.
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Safariland.
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 1:58:22 PM EST
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User name is accurate but the rest on both accounts, is not true.

I want a truck to get to places normal vehicles cannot get to and it has to be a truck to carry some rather large things. I also never cared for a 2011 until I saw what they can do and have done at matches. Neither are fads nor are they impractical or just for Instagram only.
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I went on their website and they dont show anything that fits.  I really want to throw an SRO on it, which complicates it more.  Which one will work for it with an RMR?
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 2:02:27 PM EST
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Man things are getting spicy up in here!

I saw that holster above.    Currently have a Blackhawk for my C2.

I need another with level 2 retention.  Anyone have any other recommendations?  I hate that Blackhawk.  Its the one off the staccato website.
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https://daraholsters.com/Level-II/ Maybe?
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Grartzi

Which option did you pic? Guessing it's the 6360 or 6390 RDS modified for Stacatto XC w/ WML, or is it the one modified for the 5" Prodigy?

Getting my first 2011, a Platypus with 5" threaded barrell, in a couple months and need to get an RDS and WML capable holster for it that uses the SF mounting holes for an RTI hanger.
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I got the 6360RDS modified for the XC with WML. I sort of wish I went with the 6390, but I can remove the extra retention if I want to, and generally leave the secondary hood thing over the red dot disengaged when in use and only engage it if I am not planning to draw the gun in a hurry.

RDR is good about telling you if one of their holsters will fit your gun if it isn't listed and you send them a question through their website. I wanted one of these holsters for the new S&W M&P 10mm Performance Center and they got back to me quickly (same day) as to whether they had something that would work (they did not sadly).
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 2:07:30 PM EST
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I've only hero or zeroed a classifier once... different clubs had the same one back to back... zeroed it going harder on the 2nd run... then the first club never ran it.

Shooting the classifiers like I did every stage led to a ton of sandbagger comments though, and match results far above B class...
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I won't worry about it, classification will come when it does.  Winning the match or placing higher because you didn't lose 60pts on a classifier will benefit you more in the long run.  Match management is an important skill.  If you are a B class mixing it up with A then thats better than a A scoring with Bs.
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I won't worry about it, classification will come when it does.  Winning the match or placing higher because you didn't lose 60pts on a classifier will benefit you more in the long run.  Match management is an important skill.  If you are a B class mixing it up with A then thats better than a A scoring with Bs.
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I did a bit better than that
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I went on their website and they dont show anything that fits.  I really want to throw an SRO on it, which complicates it more.  Which one will work for it with an RMR?
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Safariland.


I went on their website and they dont show anything that fits.  I really want to throw an SRO on it, which complicates it more.  Which one will work for it with an RMR?


I have this for my Staccato P W/RMR and Modlite PL350

https://safariland.com/products/model-6390rds-als-mid-ride-level-i-retention-duty-holster-model_6390rds



I'm not sure if the SRO will fit in there or not.
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exactly! Get an Atlas
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I don't agree with that at all.  You might be able to get to B without any training by getting lucky enough on(or reshooting) enough classifiers, but then you just get dragged by Cs at matches who are actually putting real work in.  

Stand and shoot classifiers(most of them are that) really aren't indicative of much other than one's stand and shoot ability.   They rarely test movement or decision making/stage planning ability.  

I'd much rather get a match bump(which is much more indicative of your overall skill level) than get it through a classifier.

C is much easier to get to than B.  Anyone who shoots even a little bit generally skips right over D and starts as a C, but most people aren't going to get to B by just shooting a weekly match and no other training.
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I agree that people aren't getting to B by just showing up at matches and not shooting outside of that.  You can get there with fun practice, put up a couple of open targets at 7 yards and hammer away at them.  You'll gain some skill, but waste a lot of time and money.   It's not training though

I started in D.
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That's good then.  Now it is time to find out what exactly is keeping you from shooting an A classifier when shooting relaxed at match pace.  Is it the draw, the points, reload, nerves.  Once you figure that out, work on that until it's second nature.   For me, making master was mental. I went to a classifier match and a mentor of mine said if you shoot to make Master, you won't, but if you shoot to win the match, you will.  It was difficult to not think about my classification while shooting the match, but I ended up winning the match and making Master with nice consistent HFs

Going to GM was harder as I had to clean up accuracy a lot and work on visual patiences .
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That's good then.  Now it is time to find out what exactly is keeping you from shooting an A classifier when shooting relaxed at match pace.  Is it the draw, the points, reload, nerves.  Once you figure that out, work on that until it's second nature.   For me, making master was mental. I went to a classifier match and a mentor of mine said if you shoot to make Master, you won't, but if you shoot to win the match, you will.  It was difficult to not think about my classification while shooting the match, but I ended up winning the match and making Master with nice consistent HFs

Going to GM was harder as I had to clean up accuracy a lot and work on visual patiences .
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I'm not worrying about classifiers for a bit
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I'm starting to see a pattern here with people on this site here whom are eager to claim to be GM's; arrogant, always angry, accuses people of BS and generally the first to tell people what they need or don't need despite being wrong in both areas, and a general over inflated sense of self worth to the community (NARCISSISM)
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I'm starting to see a pattern here with people on this site here whom are eager to claim to be GM's; arrogant, always angry, accuses people of BS and generally the first to tell people what they need or don't need despite being wrong in both areas, and a general over inflated sense of self worth to the community (NARCISSISM)
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If it's worth anything, he's shown a GM card in another thread...
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There is no pattern.  It's only me.  The other GM is kinda funny
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There is no pattern.  It's only me.  The other GM is kinda funny
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No, there is another on this board and per the site rules cannot be called out. He talks just like you, always angry, always insulting when not being taken seriously, even when going in unchallenged and rather unknown to the other person that the troll is trolling, and got himself banned from Handguns because of it. Definitely a pattern here.
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SAO is back baby.

It will keep its crown
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