Aaaaa, the million-dollar question pondered by liberty lovers for decades (this one anyway).

The ONLY thing that a party or candidate must stand on is the Bill of Rights and their voting must be restrained by the Constitution and the writings of the Founders. If not, we will continue with the communist inspired "living constitution " bullshit which has expanded our government and robbed us of our freedoms. I will vote Republican IF the candidate is not a shitbag and he is the only choice
but that occurs mostly in state and local races. As far as federal, if a Constitution Party candidate is running or a great write in candidate then they get my vote as what gets run to the ladder for President has always been a phony. AND the phonies are  always promoted by the bullshit artist CONservative talk show superstars for the brainwashing of their fans.

Maybe if every ARFCOMMER that is tired of getting screwed called the Constitution  Party and asked to run in their area for all positions from dog warden to congressman we could make a difference- you have to start somewhere. What we are doing is not working.

https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/interview-national-chairman-james-n-clymer/424502

I didn't read past the first page, but what exactly are they funding

Obviously, the covert (and now overt) strategy is to fund private orgs to do things the government legally can't do, but I'd be interested to see the actual wording of this bill and what organizations are expected to get the funds.


Speed

The ultimate agenda is the 2nd Amendment, something you obviously don't support.

Wow.  Did he hit his head recently?

I thought he was far better than that!

Glad that mine (Timmons) voted against it.  But I could have seen him go along to get along just as easily, too

Are you kidding me? This is mainstream Republican doctrine. I remember when this shit passed in Florida. Mark Levin had a guest host on his show and he was praising the bill for days. This falls right in line with the NRA/Republican position that only "Good Guys" should have guns. Oh, Trump was all for it too.

Don't think for a second that the Republicans really want you having guns.

I remember how Trump bravely stepped in and defended Virginia from being turned into Maryland-Lite. Oh wait, never happened...or was there an effortless and quite useless tweet?

Dont forget to polish your Trump statue before you go to bed and read up on new Virginia gun laws if you plan on hitting the range tomorrow.

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Damn, it looks like you circle-jerkers get the red-ass when nobody takes you seriously.

I shot today....At my own range, no rules, just right. But hey, thanks for your concern.

Mark Levin? The conservative talk show superstar? No cant be... please tell us this is a lie. Say it isn't so...Mark Levin loves Reagan and he is the bestest and would never lead us astray:

Who gives a fuck about anyone else amirite?

Another say one thing and do another pile of shit.

Once the Socialists finish with The Ruling Class, the Kulaks are always the next ones to get the hammer.

Pleasantly surprised to see my rep was a nay.

One of my favorites, and oh so fitting all to often.



The Hangman
by Maurice Ogden



Stanza 1

Into our town the Hangman came, smelling of gold and blood and flame. And he paced our bricks with a diffident air. And built his frame on the courthouse square.

The scaffold stood by the courthouse side, only as wide as the door was wide; a frame as tall, or little more, than the capping sill of the courthouse door.

And we wondered, whenever we had the time, who the criminal, what the crime, that Hangman judged with the yellow twist of knotted hemp in his busy fist.

And innocent though we were, with dread we passed those eyes of buckshot lead; till one cried: "Hangman, who is he for whom you raise the gallows-tree."

Then a twinkle grew in the buckshot eye, and he gave us a riddle instead of reply: "He who serves me best," said he, "Shall earn the rope on the gallows-tree."

And he stepped down, and laid his hand on a man who came from another land and we breathed again, for another's grief at the Hangman's hand was our relief.

And the gallows-frame on the courthouse lawn by tomorrow's sun would be struck and gone. So we gave him way, and no one spoke, out of respect for his hangman's cloak.

Stanza 2

The next day's sun looked mildly down on roof and street in our quiet town and, stark and black in the morning air, the gallows-tree on the courthouse square.

And the Hangman stood at his usual stand with the yellow hemp in his busy hand; with his buckshot eye and his jaw like a pike and his air so knowing and businesslike.

And we cried: "Hangman, have you not done, yesterday, with the alien one?" Then we fell silent, and stood amazed: "Oh, not for him was the gallows raised."

He laughed a laugh as he looked at us: "Did you think I'd gone to all this fuss to hang one man? That's a thing I do to stretch the rope when the rope is new."

Then one cried, "Murderer!" One cried, "Shame!" And into our midst the Hangman came to that man's place. "Do you hold," said he, "With him that was meant for the gallows-tree?"

And he laid his hand on that one's arm, and we shrank back in quick alarm, and we gave him way, and no one spoke out of fear of his hangman's cloak.

That night we saw with dread surprise the Hangman's scaffold had grown in size. Fed by the blood beneath the chute the gallows-tree had taken root;

Now as wide, or a little more, than the steps that led to the courthouse door, as tall as the writing, or nearly as tall, halfway up on the courthouse wall.

Stanza 3

The third he took — we had all heard tell — was a usurer and infidel, And: "What," said the Hangman, "have you to do with the gallows-bound, and he a Jew?"

And we cried out: "Is this one he who has served you well and faithfully?" The Hangman smiled: "It's a clever scheme to try the strength of the gallows-beam."

The fourth man's dark, accusing song had scratched out comfort hard and long; and "What concern," he gave us back, "Have you for the doomed - the doomed and black?"

The fifth.The sixth. And we cried again: "Hangman, Hangman, is this the man?" "It's a trick," he said, "that we hangmen know for easing the trap when the trap springs slow."

And so we ceased, and asked no more, as the Hangman tallied his bloody score; and sun by sun, and night by night, the gallows grew to monstrous height.

The wings of the scaffold opened wide till they covered the square from side to side; and the monster cross-beam, looking down, cast its shadow across the town.

Stanza 4

Then through the town the Hangman came and called in the empty streets my name - and I looked at the gallows soaring tall and thought: "There is no one left at all for hanging, and so he calls to me to help pull down the gallows-tree." And I went out with right good hope to the Hangman's tree and the Hangman's rope.

He smiled at me as I came down to the courthouse square through the silent town, and supple and stretched in his busy hand was the yellow twist of the hempen strand.

And he whistled his tune as he tried the trap and it sprang down with a ready snap— and then with a smile of awful command he laid his hand upon my hand.

"You tricked me, Hangman!" I shouted then. "That your scaffold was built for other men. And I no henchman of yours," I cried, "You lied to me, Hangman, foully lied!"

Then a twinkle grew in his buckshot eye: "Lied to you? Tricked you?" he said, "Not I. For I answered straight and I told you true: The scaffold was raised for none but you.

"For who has served me more faithfully than you with your coward's hope?" said he, "And where are the others that might have stood side by your side in the common good?"

"Dead," I whispered; and amiably "Murdered," the Hangman corrected me; "First the alien, then the Jew... I did no more than you let me do."

Beneath the beam that blocked the sky, none had stood so alone as I - and the Hangman strapped me, and no voice there cried "Stay" for me in the empty square.

Levin is a skunk. He spent months telling people that if Trump lost, then Biden would stack the Supreme Court, ban guns, tax us to death, invalidate the Constitution and flood the country with illegals. After the election he didn't talk about anything else but how the election was stolen. So after about a year of riling his listeners up about a communist take over of America, talking up the Founding Fathers who risked their life, fortunes and sacred honor to revolt against the crown, and screaming to high heaven about how the election was stolen, what did he do?

Yeah, condemned The Deadly Insurrection at The Capitol. Yeah, the same one that he did more to incite than anyone.

Yes.

Regarding NC
2 Repubs voted nay, 6 Repubs yea

Murdered by Anne Arundel County Police armed with a piece of paper signed by a judge on hearsay from a family member.

Said Anne Arundel County police chief Timothy Altomare:If you look at this morning's outcome, it's tough for us to say, "Well, what did we prevent?" Because we don't know what we prevented or could've prevented. What would have happened if we didn't go there at 5 am?

Police in the US can and will kill you preemptively

That’s really not surprising.

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Trumps leg humpers proved that gun owners are the cucks of the Republican Party.

I mentioned something earlier about it… on one hand while I don’t agree with it i can understand people who ‘hold their nose’ to vote the lesser of evils. As propaganda has ingrained that moronic logic in our brains for generations now.  What’s astonishing and really concerning about the 2020 election is the huge amount of
enthusiasm tens of millions of gun owners had at the very thought of voting for Trump.  It’s really quite astonishing.

But then I come on here and see a seeming large percentage of ‘gun owners’ who could really give a fuck if daddy gov bans ‘range toys’ or supports a myriad of other anti gun legislation.. because guess what they don’t own a ‘range toy’ or they shoot on their own land and don’t have to go to ranges. It’s quite sobering, but it really brings it all together.

Well I guess Neal Dunn gets no more votes from me. Off to his FB page to ask if he even bothers to read through bills or if he agrees with more gun control since he voted for it.

Yea, I need to call his office about it. I remember when I met him during a fundraiser I told him to stay the fuck away from people like Crenshaw. Looks like he didn’t listen.

done

Thank you for pointing that out along with details.

Are they going to be enforcing these laws out in the country on rednecks or are they going to be rolling heavy with swat in the inner cities against black people? Somebody should point out who will get the brunt of this.
It will be fucking unconstitutional no matter who it is used against. And they DEFINITELY will get to us eventually.
"First they came for the inner city black people.."

Red flag laws: absolutely great in theory but the most abusable shit to deny people their rights that exists. Would I love to have a law like this where it was genuinely used to stop imminently dangerous whackos from murdering people ? Absolutely. But it will never be used as intended. Innocent people will be stripped of their rights. Fucking pieces of shit

I guess making sure the military industrial complex is funded is more important than anything.

135?  

Bunch of cunts…

‘Stop & Frisk’ was another gem.

THEY
ARE
ALL
ON
THE
SAME
TEAM
!

This.

Their job is to create divisiveness to keep the plebs occupied with fighting with each other all the while the "elite" sit back and laugh their way all the way to the bank and ensuring generational wealth by the time they leave office.

It's all a ruse.

We now have more than enough examples of actual violations of the constitution. Conservatism needs to become a verb. We have to actually work for change in order to get back to "average" or "normal" or "constitution".... or "just". The constitution can't protect us unless we protect it. And we have gone back to our houses and hidden our stuff in a "boating accident" too long now. We work, or we get defeated.

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So wait... nobody, not a single trusted person right here on AR15.COM of all places, told you and all the rest of the hysterical Trumpanzee's that the guy was anti-gun? I sincerely hope you're not claiming that. It was the topic of discussion for at least a year regarding his candidacy.

Pics of him and the Clintons, Bloomberg, excerpts from his book in his own words wanking about longer waiting periods and assault rifle bans yada yada... that never happened? I'm just imagining that?

Anyone who remembers the lead up to 2016 knows damn well you and the rest were warned and had your MAGA blinders on. You don't get to turn on him now. Own it.

Eventually? People out in the country are the first people it will be used against.

It will not be a problem until,,it's a problem.

These are the 2 loons from WV that voted YEA. I think they have a bit too many chromosomes.

David B. McKinley and Carol D. Miller. They're from 2 college towns, so no real surprise there.



Alexander Mooney voted NO.



All 3 are Republican, and that's 66% of them that are anti-gun.

Lots of hills for me to die on lately, boys.

H.R. 4350 is the National Defense Authorization Act. It funds our military for fiscal year 2022.

That doesn't mean I support Section 529 (j). In fact it is most likely unconstitutional. If it even makes it to final passage, it will rightfully be challenged. It is a blatant attempt to undermine the military justice system and then leverage it to create a matching national civilian subversion of our Constitution.

This is the game that majorities play with must pass bills. They add despicable intrusions on our liberty and then force a vote. By the way, it would pass without a single Republican.

That doesn't mean I support them. I'm just Mr Nobody doing some explaining.

But you're on a roll. Don't let me stop it.

https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20210920/BILLS-117HR4350-RCP117-13.pdf

Read Sec 1567b(h).

Reading comprehension is fundamental.

We were fighting this before it was voted on.



The 135 Republicans knew it was a in the bill.

There’s definitely some of that, but it’s mostly the lesser of two evils thing. I always knew Trump wasn’t pro gun; he’s been a NYC business man his whole life. Yes banning bump stocks or anything(especially by exec order) is wrong. But, as has been noted in this thread, not one of these fucks actually wants us to have guns.  Name the last presidential candidate that was actually pro 2A. One who you honestly believe would try to get rid of NFA. There hasn’t been one in my life time.

When that magical time comes, I’ll vote for em.

One Party One Nation Under Luciferians

I don't think elections matter anymore. The vote counters are in control.

I believe part of my point is it was a Hobson's Choice. Either way, this was going to pass. Democrats didn't need a single Republican vote. Part of the game here was to try and get some Republicans on the record as not voting for the military budget. So Democrats stuff garbage in the bill and dare them not to vote for it. Then that vote goes in dubious advertising and talking points when the election comes.

Indiana now has red flag law.
The Indy Star newspaper says its not being used enough.

Indiana is normally a pretty conservative state.

We'll see what happens next.

So Republicans put party over principle because last year.

Disregard females, acquire firearms.