People wonder why I'm building a concrete house.....

Given how fragile our power grid is (remember the the substation that was shot up by AKs?), I expect most of those Chicoms will engage in sabotage. I'm seriously thinking that, given the way things are aligning, it all kicks off before the next election. Then, it will be really bad.

You know why. Doomers need a constant supply of bad news to maintain the facade of "Any day now". If you are an older person you'd know this shit has been playing out since before time began. I dont know why, but some people just need to think the world is ending just any day now. Yet it never, ever does.

Theres always bad news. Its what the news does. No one would watch it if it were otherwise. But it makes it easy to get caught in the echo chamber of "Any day now"....

Some of us have made so many laps around the sun, we qualify as astronauts.

No, much of what we've seen the last 3+ years has never played out in the past. When has the entire country come to virtually a standstill in living memory? Kung Flu and 9/11 are both post Y2K. When have 15,000 illegals ever streamed across the border in one single border town in a single week? Never, until this week. When has the US ever had a debt vs GDP as high as we currently have? Oh, that's right, never. Not even at the end of WW2. So, no, this isn't like it has been in the past. Not even close.

The world doesn't have to be ending to recognize there is a lot of bad things happening simultaneously both here and abroad. Not facing reality won't shield you from the negative effects of those bad things that are happening. It only makes you less able to weather the storm, whatever that storm may ultimately be.

You think this is the first time "This has never happened before!" has happened? Every single day is a new high on our debt. Its been going on for decades. When has the country shut down? Fuck, remember the gas crisis in the 70's? If you really want to talk about bad things, lets talk the Cuban missile crisis when there was an actual concern of nuclear war! Interest rates? You recall the 80s? How about Peak oil in the late 90's? Was going to be the end of cheap energy in the world.

As I said, theres always bad news. There has been since newspapers were printed. What we're seeing today is unique. You are right. None the less, we'll all go to work and we'll all come home and we'll all have a nice dinner....Just like everyone has in all the previous "never been done before!" crisis's that were going to be the end of the world.......At some point you just outgrow it. This is just another flavor on the same meal doomers have bene cooking for centuries. But its damn sure nothing new.

You're laughably incorrect, and in all likelihood neither you nor I will live out our natural lives.

You would have mocked Paul Revere when he said "The British are coming".

Sounds like this thread isn’t for you. So why shit it up.

And just to be clear all this thread is actually doing is reporting what is actually happening in our world. Factual goings on. You can use that information how you see fit.or you can ignore it altogether, while our country which is nothing like what it was even 20 years ago, continues to fall apart. That is your business not mine.

I know what I see happening in my industries and I can see where things are headed if there isn’t some miraculous turn around. Therefore I want to stay informed.

So you do you. But as the old saying goes, don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining. Go live your life in someway more meaningful than shitting up things others appreciate.

Thousands of military age males have invaded and are just waiting to begin the sabotage. It's going to get ugly and e did it all to ourselves. Stolen elections have consequences

I do site design for a Dollar General developer.  I have 4 new location stores on the schedule right now.

DG isn't going out of business.

Where do you get your news and information from?  So, you’re an “older person” huh?  So you bring the wisdom of the Cuban missile crisis, the gas shortages of the early 70’s, how terrible the 80’s were?  That’s your examples of hard times, events that occurred within “your” lifetime?  What, the last 60 years?

Why didn’t you mention the riots and assassinations from the 60’s, the Iran hostage ordeal from the 70’s, the savings & loan crash and the Black Monday stock market crash of the 1980’s, the mass exportation of jobs, industry, & technology to countries like China in the 90’s?  How about the massive Federal government power grabs that happened during that timeframe?  Those all happened within your lifetime, too, right?  Wouldn’t those events be a better comparison of the events and lead-up to the climate of today?   Again, where do you get your news and information from?  The same medium you’ve been getting it for your whole life?

You at least point out that these things of today have happened before but act as though those things were never even discussed in this thread. The Fourth Turning book has been referenced many times in this thread by me and others.  I’ve even posted current interviews by one of the still living authors about what’s happening to day because this is the exact time period that the book said that hard times would happen again because of repeating cycles, which last about 80 years. It’s funny those “hard times” you gave as an example all happened within the past 60 or so years, so your experience as an “older person” really doesn’t mean shit in relation to the hardships that are actually happening today, now does it?

Why didn’t you give examples from history of “these things that have occurred since the beginning of time”?  I’ve at east heard stories of the Dust Bowl & Great Depression, firsthand from my great-grandmother when she lived in Oklahoma.  Now, that’s an example of hard times!  How about the war cycle that lead up to World War II?  Wouldn’t that have been a good example to give when comparing events of history with events of today?  We’ve discussed historical events and their comparison to what’s going on today many, many times in this thread.  Hell, those comparisons have been the biggest argument that hard times are indeed ahead for us.

Oh, but I’m just a “Doomer”.  So much so that you’ve even posted as such in other threads on a completely other topic.  How nice of you and how mature of you since your an “older person” with so much wisdom and knowledge to share.  Too bad name-calling seems to be the limit of that wisdom and knowledge.  I guess you learned that from your media sources that like to label anyone of different opinions with derogatory names.

This has been going on in at least Ireland, the UK, and Australia.  If you support this type of behavior, welcome to the countercultural movement.

Rise of the ULEZ 'Blade Runners': The underground activists who've vowed to stop at nothing until they've 'taken down EVERY one of Sadiq Khan's low-emission cameras'





https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12011507/amp/ULEZ-Blade-Runners-want-one-Sadiq-Khans-low-emission-cameras.html

Not all Gods children have halos, some have hammers. pic.twitter.com/w3o4WrhrbX

Melissa Ciummei  (@KSCUBKEE) March 2, 2023

We've heard it's coming...for a while...

That said, the fed did come out and say a recession is likely. When they say something like that, it must be closer to a depression since they lie.

It seems like we are gearing up for summer or late summer perhaps?

Funny how places on opposite side of the world can all have a similar movement.  It really is a small world after all.

Elon Musk: Euro Hate Speech Laws are a ‘Massive Attack Against Freedom of Speech’

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/04/30/elon-musk-euro-hate-speech-laws-are-a-massive-attack-against-freedom-of-speech/

Today the government voted against Human Rights and quite literally for Thought Crime legislation

Free Speech Ireland  (@FreeSpeechIre) April 26, 2023

Ran across this video a few days ago. Things that make you go hmmmmm……outfitting an army? She thinks it’s being shipped back to China. Very possibly. It could also be for outfitting an army here. Like the one walking across our southern border.

Five Factors that will result in Global Food Shortages


Part I




Part II

HOW MANY MORE RALLY  -  AUSTIN, TX  - APRIL 29, 2023

Rally Organizer Mark Meckler discusses the rally and upcoming HB20 to give Texas more control over securing the border with Mexico




Must have a YT account to view the rally videos and pass through age confirmation levels due to graphic images

Austin Rally Part I



Austin Rally Part II



KEY SPEAKERS

TED NUGENT
Legendary Guitarist and American Role Model

LARA LOGAN
Emmy Award Winning Journalist and Former Foreign War Correspondent for CBS News and 60 Minutes

REV. SAMUEL RODRIGUEZ
NHCLC, President & CEO

REP. CHIP ROY
U.S. Rep - TX21

CJ PEARSON
PragerU Personality

MARK MORGAN
Border Security and Immigration Center at The Heritage Foundation, Visiting Fellow

VIRGINIA KRIEGER
Lost Voices of Fentanyl, Co-President

JAESON JONES
CEO of Omni Intelligence / Retired Captain of DPS Counterterrorism Division

CRAIG SAWYER
Veterans For Child Rescue, Founder and CEO & Former Navy Seal who served at the elite Seal Team One (DEVGRU)

VICTOR AVILA
Retd. Supervisory Special Agent with ICE

DR. MIKE VICKERS
Texas Border Volunteers, Founder

ROY BOYD
Goliad County Sheriff

GEORGE RODRIGUEZ
El Conservador, Radio Show Host

JEFFREY STAMM
Former DEA Deputy Chief of International Operations

SARAH CHITTUM
Texas Gulf Coast War on Fentanyl, Founder

GETANEH M. GETANEH
Watch and Pray Ministries, Founder

MARK MECKLER
Convention of States, President & Master of Ceremonies

Putin and the Russian government have been making nuclear threats for months now.  North Korea has been doing the same, in word or just by action, and China, a nuclear power, is constantly threatening Taiwan.  The U.S. is beginning to produce new nuclear warheads and update or refurbish both weapons and delivery systems.  

Never happened and never will happen?

Here are examples of societal collapse according to Wikipedia.

Akkadian Empire
Hittite Empire
Mycenaean Greece
Neo-Assyrian Empire
Angkor civilization of the Khmer Empire
Han and Tang dynasty of China
Izapa
Maya civilization (Classic Maya collapse)
Munhumutapa Empire
Olmec
Sumer by the Akkadian Empire
Kingdom of Israel by Assyria
Ancient Egypt by the Libyans, Nubians, Assyria, Babylonia, Persian rule, Greece, Ptolemaic dynasty, and the Roman Empire[97]
Babylonia by the Hittites
Britons by the Anglo-Saxons, and then by the Normans
Khazar Khaganate by the Eastern Slavs of the Kievan Rus'
Eastern Roman Empire (Medieval Greek) by western and eastern neighbouring powers, and ultimately by the Ottoman Empire
Destruction of Khitan Western Liao dynasty, Jurchen Jin dynasty, Tangut Xia dynasty, Nanzhao, Song dynasty, Khwarazmian empire, Abbasid Caliphate, Ayyubids, Nizari Ismaili state, Sultanate of Rum, Kievan Rus, Volga Bulgaria and Cumans by the Mongol Empire
Champa Kingdom by Vietnam during its Southward Expansion[98]
Aztec, Incan, and Maya civilizations by the Spanish Empire
Seven Spanish Cities by the Mapuche
Garamantes by the Umayyad Caliphate
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth by the Kingdom of Prussia, Russian Empire and Archduchy of Austria
Cahokia
Norse colony on Greenland
Original Polynesian civilization on Pitcairn Island and Henderson Island
Malden Island
Flinders Island

For some reason, they don’t include the fall of the Roman Empire, the most famous collapse of all.

The real blackpill lies in why is this being allowed to happen.

I'm not convinced this is happening just because Mayorkas is incompetent or doesn't care.

When these thousands of Chinese guys all coordinate an op to a certain day or hour the infrastructure will be brought to its knees.

Just want to inquire a bit about the part in bold; does the WEF's "push" have any tangible weight here in the US?  I mean, what exactly can their influence have on the meat industry here?  I have a small pig farm 75 yards up the road from me, and a small dairy farm 75 yards further on.  What can the WEF realistically accomplish that would cause these two places to cease production of the bacon and milk I buy from them?  Is this like a large scale purchase of congresspeople to pass a law banning meat sales?  Would that be constitutional?  

I just don't see how the WEF is capable of affecting my breakfast sausage.

They won't outright ban it, that's too easy and would cause too much backlash.

More Like:

* all major meat packers sign an agreement, to fight climate change, that all breakfast sausage must now contain 50% sausage, and 50% zee bugs. Then next year 40%/60% because it's a climate emergency.

* every pig slaughtered will be required to pay a $100 federal excise tax to offset the climate damage and carbon emissions. "we're not saying you can't have meat, we're just saying you need to pay your fair share of climate damage", then $200... then $300 each year.

IMO there's too many fellow travelers that have infested major corporations and the halls of government.  They've all been bought off. I think our best hope is to keep it local as much as possible.

Also China and Russia are ahead of us in hypersonic missile technology which means their missiles no longer have to be parked just 90 miles away from our shores and also means our missile defense systems cannot protect us from a single missile attack, much less that a barrage of attacks.

That kind of sounds worse than the Cuban Missile Crisis scenario but since our bullshit media doesn’t talk about it as an actual threat, we’re all good.  

Everything’s fine! ®

Indeed.

I’ve had a lifetime dosage of black pills in the last few weeks.  The deeper you dig, the darker it gets.

My paternal grandparents lived through the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl in Oklahoma. My father was born in the midst of the dust bowl.  I learned how to be frugal from them.

Don’t tell me hard times have never hit us before.

We are still at the mercy of the FDA. Just look how other government agencies like the ATF, IRS, CDC, etc… have put forth guidelines that quickly become law without the input of the Legislative Branch.  Look what’s going on with the Amish farms and communities.  Plus as you mention, only a few companies actually handle our food processing and distribution.  Isn’t the definition of Facism the cooperation of larger corporations and government to force their will on the people?


The indoctrination in schools is here for that, too.

So it's the FDA, and not the WEF, that could have realistic, tangible effect on my day to day?  And what's going on with the Amish farms and communities?

Oklahoma is the most underrated state and most underrated people in America.  Okies certainly wouldn’t have tolerated what happened in Uvalde, Texas.

Sadly, my pride and respect for my state took a huge tumble that day.

The WEF is absolutely influencing the governments in the EU.  It’s not really a stretch to see the Biden regime from accepting the same.  Also remember that many of the corporations are international companies, too, and more than willing to cooperate.

@jb1001

Thank you for your honest & straightforward questions as well as your cordial dialogue.

The topics in this thread deserve questions as well as answers.  Actually, I’ve had to search for some of the answers to my own questions pertaining to this, too.

Don’t be too hard on Texas. Every state has good people and bad people. Only the ratios change.

The WEF is at the root of the problem. They’re using ultra wealthy globalist donor money (think Bill Gates) to buy and influence politicians and folks like the heads of the FDA. Then the FDA drives the change.

set rantmode to on

Ignorance is a curable disease. Let me help you (and others) who may not be fully aware of all the facts.

Link

Take a look at the chart titled "U.S. National Debt Over the Last 100 Years". Notice anything unusual about that curve? That's right, it's exponential. Not linear. It was quasi-linear for a long while then it wasn't. If you look at debt to GDP (here) you will note it's higher now than it was just after WW2. If our elected (or selected depending on your POV) leaders do not have the will or the wisdom to reign in spending, then simple mathematics says the US goes broke. So, yes, this is new.

As for the energy situation, the Gulf Oil crisis was due to geopolitical events, not an actual shortage, which is why everyone knew it would only be a temporary situation (and it was). Peak oil was (and is) a fantasy and not widely reported or understood. Yes, I remember interest rates during the 80's. Do you remember why they were that high? Oh yeah, to curb double digit inflation. Guess why we have unabated inflation now? That's right, because we haven't responded by raising rates to a net positive relative to inflation. We could argue about the fact that if they were to rise that high, the Feral Government would not be able to pay even the interest on the debt and we'd be Zimbabwe. Basically, we're painted into a corner economically. So, yes, this is new.

Responding to bad news in a healthy way, ie, preparing as best as one can to deal with the negative aspects of trends, is the correct response. Burying one's head in the sand is not.

Also, in case you (or others) don't already know, there is what is referred to as a "Survival" forum (which is more of a level-headed preparedness forum) here on Arfcom. Feel free to roam about over here. There's a surprising amount of good, solid information there without the GD hand-wringing.

set rantmode to off

Texas is a big state and different regions of Texas give a vibe that is completely different than regions in other parts of Texas.  If it had been just Uvalde, that would be one thing but it also ran through sheriff’s departments, DPS, Texas Rangers, as well as elected officials.  An unarmed mother showed way more courage and bravery that a multitude of certified peace officers on scene that were armed to the teeth.  

I’d like to think that wouldn’t happen in my region of Texas but I live close enough to D/FW that the attitude and culture is felt in my small town, too.  I’ve even trained with several of those peace officers from my area including D/FW but they’re also the type that seeks out the extra training to do their jobs well, too.  I don’t know what the others would do in certain situations, though.

OHP is constantly proving they are pretty much up to any task. I’ve had nothing but positive experiences with them, too, even in the several compromising situations I found myself in.  

Ha! Thanks for that bit. Arfcom never ceases to amaze me in terms of the reach/expertise of forum members. "We" have people *everywhere*.

Well said.

My dad was a kid during the Great Depression and my maternal grandmother lived on a farm during the same time period. The stories I got told were profoundly sad. Like yours, my parents were also exceptionally frugal folks due to that experience.

Hard times have hit us before. However, in the lives of most still alive, times have been "mostly" good. Is that likely to change? The trends are pointing in that direction. My contention about this thread is that more information is always preferable to less. More information/perspectives can help create a more robust response to the things that are out of our span of control.

Yes and that’s an important lesson to get from this too that their struggle and perseverance through those hard times gave way for us to have the ease and abundance that we were able to experience.

Now the cycle is about to repeat.

Israelis are still pissed.

Yeah, I mean I admit to being snarky about 40 pages back or so, and by all means, count me on the side of the doubters.  Almost halfway point of '23 and have any first world countries experienced a "massive food shortage"?

My contention is that the US in particular is a big food exporter. I seriously doubt we will have a massive food shortage here but it wouldn't surprise me to learn prices skyrocket here in response to prices on the international markets for those things. Capitalists tend to sell their products to the highest bidder. So, much like egg prices skyrocketed for a while then came back down, we may see certain items in the rest of our food chain doing the same.

Definitely agree.  I'm just waiting to see any other first world country to have even the slightest death toll from famine.  Africa does not count.  N. Korea does not count.  If 30k people in Ireland starve to death this summer I might be intrigued.

Yep, I remember you.

Maybe some of these graphs from the Fourth Turning book that was published in 1997 might give some thought, too.







Fairly recent Interview with Neil Howe, only living author of The Fourth Turning

Mandarin Spoken: Darien Gap invasion video — massive numbers coming through.  This was posted in 2022.  Far more now:@ganaha_masako @DrLiMengYAN1 @lude_media @SolomonYue @GordonGChang @GenFlynn @jordanbpeterson @BensmanTodd @Oscarelblue @BenBergquam @elonmusk @rangerholton… pic.twitter.com/Q64TUliaTv

— Michael Yon (@Michael_Yon) April 30, 2023

Migrants find tips on Chinese version of TikTok for long trek to U.S.-Mexico border

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-immigration-china/

TommyRobinsonOfficial@TommyRobinsonOfficial
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All over the world, surveillance is being attacked by the people.

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/110289009669751894

Wonder what country he’s from?  This is happening more and more in Europe.


TommyRobinsonOfficial@TommyRobinsonOfficial
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Dublin being culturally enriched.


https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/110289725811140463

Good advice in an increasingly violent world…


TommyRobinsonOfficial@TommyRobinsonOfficial
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3 migrant teens pick a fight with a Netherlands boy and lose.

Teach your children self defence, because packs is how migrants roam and Europe is importing their demise at an accelerated rate.

https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/110290668614304612

El Paso, TX

Here is a video of El Paso yesterday. These are the conditions Joe Biden’s illegal invasion has caused.

We can’t keep living like this!

More to come on this thread. pic.twitter.com/vvUjWaYf5c

Irene Armendariz-Jackson  (@ArmendarizDis16) April 30, 2023

El Paso looking like 3rd world country… pic.twitter.com/92yD5qJbnC

real Anthony Aguero  (@AgueroForTexas) April 30, 2023

#ElPaso #Texas  It has begun…This is not even scratching the surface of what is coming… pic.twitter.com/EMQWvRGEbh

real Anthony Aguero  (@AgueroForTexas) April 30, 2023

Drone show flight testing. Perfectly timed

Scary to consider these all being armed and released on a target ... with an artificial intelligence program making the targeting decisions\uD83D\uDD25

\uD83D\uDD0A pic.twitter.com/4wluu9UFWu

Wall Street Silver  (@WallStreetSilv) April 30, 2023