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Link Posted: 9/5/2017 12:49:51 AM EDT
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Thats fine.  But I'm guessing that you don't develop national policy - or haven't worked close to that area in the past.

Its not as simple as walking away once the smoke clears.  It never has been.  See Marshall Plan.  Also see Iraq, Afghanistan et al.
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China wants their buffer zone....have at it.


China basically created the entire scene anyway.

Let them deal with it. Or not. IDC
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 1:24:55 AM EDT
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I don't think that Kim Jong Un want's to provoke Poseidon's fury.
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Yet, that's exactly what he's doing.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 1:36:06 AM EDT
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China wants their buffer zone....have at it.


China basically created the entire scene anyway.

Let them deal with it. Or not. IDC
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China established the 38th parallel. (NOT US) They can STILL taste the Jap boot.

The tiny little anime island of pixelated porn....enslaved them.

We should have NEVER stole their Samurai swords?
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 2:05:19 AM EDT
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Never been to the movies? Hollywood can fake anything, including earthquakes and especially the evidence one happened where nobody was there to actually validate it. Look at this graph - see it shows something!

This is all about as believeable as colin powells speech on mobile chemical weapons laboritories and imminent mushroom clouds in continental US. Yet the mentally weak and doped up fucksticks can't see or are too stupid to care they are being lied to again and again and again and again and again.....
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Holly shit.

Please seek professional help.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 2:16:36 AM EDT
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Holly shit.

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Holly shit? BWAHAHHAAHAHA! That is worth 2

ETA: If I ever call out a normal guy for tinfoil(I wouldn't)...and actually bust out 4 ...I will spell holy shit right. It will give it a tad MOAR authority.
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Holly shit? BWAHAHHAAHAHA! That is worth 2

ETA: If I ever call out a normal guy for tinfoil(I wouldn't)...and actually bust out 4 ...I will spell holy shit right. It will give it a tad MOAR authority.
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Holly shit.

Please seek professional help.
Holly shit? BWAHAHHAAHAHA! That is worth 2

ETA: If I ever call out a normal guy for tinfoil(I wouldn't)...and actually bust out 4 ...I will spell holy shit right. It will give it a tad MOAR authority.
kek. 
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 2:50:54 AM EDT
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ETA: We can't spot a convoy of white Toyotas or a flotilla of Iranians.



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I saw that.  I would laughed if he would have ended it with "It'll be a blast"!
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 3:27:09 AM EDT
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I saw that.  I would laughed if he would have ended it with "It'll be a blast"!
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Busy week.

He's got WW3 with Lil Kim, Hurricane Irma, Harvey Aftermath and DACA Announcement.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 3:28:14 AM EDT
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But I don't think they have a way to stop artillery from hitting Seoul, and that's the only reason Kim is still breathing. On the bright side, Kim surely doesn't have an effective missile defense system...
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 3:39:34 AM EDT
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But I don't think they have a way to stop artillery from hitting Seoul, and that's the only reason Kim is still breathing. On the bright side, Kim surely doesn't have an effective missile defense system...
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You're right.

Except. No one HERE gives  a fuck about KOREANS?



ETA: or Korean americans...or 'mericans living as Koreans?
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 4:57:18 AM EDT
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Why do I feel like we are all fixated on the hand with the rabbit when we know the trick is happening right before our eyes?

Nobody can this stupid, even that little crazy fuck. I really feel like we are being played while something much bigger is happening elsewhere!
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The nukes are a diversion, a head fake, while he prepares to attack South Korea with nerve gas and smallpox.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 5:19:21 AM EDT
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Busy week.

He's got WW3 with Lil Kim, Hurricane Irma, Harvey Aftermath and DACA Announcement.
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With the MSM, Congress, and the federal court system continually biting at his ankles like an ill-tempered yappy dog.

I think he's bearing up under the load quite nicely.  
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 5:56:05 AM EDT
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Trump should give China an ultimatum: Fatboy gives up his nukes and steps down, or Taiwan gets THAAD.
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Ok here's my opening bid...


South Korea:

Re-equip Osan and Kunsan with nukes.  Re-activate Kwang Ju, Suwon, and Taegu Air Bases, and nuke them up too.

THAADs, C-Rams, Patriots etc. galore for all of the above.

SK immediately begins developing their own domestic nuclear program with our full assistance.



Japan:

Same thing-- full expansion and nuke up, complemented with all best countermeasures and Japan simultaneously fast tracking domestic nuke development with our full help.



Guam:

Re-activate the 43rd (Nuclear) Bombardment Wing.  Re-open the Nuclear weapon storage area for a full service operation, and restart the nuclear alert bomber area for on call 24/7 service.


Taiwan:

Covertly insert 20 fully loaded GLCM launchers and THAADS.  Also install C-Ram, Patriots, equip their navy with Aegis, etc., etc., etc...

Taiwan would need to be in secret, with the Nukes installed rapidly and only when they were ready to be rolled off and active.



GLCMs in Taiwan would make China absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT!


We'd retain title to the GLCMs, and would be receptive to their removal once NK was completely divested of all Nuclear asssets and production capability--- directly verified by us....

What China doesn't control NK?  Well, tough shit, it's a hard world.   Get rid of those pesky Nork nukes, and then we can remove the nuclear shield when the neighborhood behaves.   Otherwise pound sand...


P.S.--  for folks who don't know what GLCMs are:

4 mobile Nuclear rounds of "Fuck You"


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We got rid of them, but it wouldn't be a difficult system to resurrect.  If it were a very high and top secret priority-- it could happen fast.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 6:11:02 AM EDT
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Busy week.

He's got WW3 with Lil Kim, Hurricane Irma, Harvey Aftermath and DACA Announcement.
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Link Posted: 9/5/2017 1:58:52 PM EDT
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@limaxray or anyone else.

Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles?
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They have the Russian "Flap Lid" and "Big Bird" radars for the S300 system.

They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 2:24:30 PM EDT
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China established the 38th parallel. (NOT US) They can STILL taste the Jap boot.

The tiny little anime island of pixelated porn....enslaved them.

We should have NEVER stole their Samurai swords?
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This is incorrect. It was decided fairly arbitrarily by the US to split the US and Soviet occupation zones. Those who did it did so without any real consideration other than it roughly bisected the country,coming to blows with the USSR wasn't something they were looking forward to. Of course,China was still mostly under control of the KMT at the time as well.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 2:24:52 PM EDT
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They have the Russian "Flap Lid" and "Big Bird" radars for the S300 system.

They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable.
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Don't forget Clam Shell! [Although that's a low altitude radar.]
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 2:59:03 PM EDT
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If I was a S. Korean civilian, i'd be headed as far south as i could right about now...or see if I had any relatives in the U.S. I could visit for a few months.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 3:09:06 PM EDT
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They have the Russian "Flap Lid" and "Big Bird" radars for the S300 system.

They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable.
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@limaxray or anyone else.

Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles?
They have the Russian "Flap Lid" and "Big Bird" radars for the S300 system.

They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable.
So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed?
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 3:35:39 PM EDT
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If I was a S. Korean civilian, i'd be headed as far south as i could right about now...or see if I had any relatives in the U.S. I could visit for a few months.
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I checked up on S Korean latest pop figures, they have 50% of their population within panoramic c viewing of North Korea. 25 million = worse traffic jams heading south than already happens every day in Seoul
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 4:30:00 PM EDT
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So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed?
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Probably. Probably can't do anything about it either.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 4:37:55 PM EDT
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@limaxray or anyone else.

Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles?
They have the Russian "Flap Lid" and "Big Bird" radars for the S300 system.

They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable.
So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed?
Some radar operator might see it for 45-60 seconds, if the radar is turned on, but he probably won't have time to send the intel up the chain.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 4:39:58 PM EDT
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Some radar operator might see it for 45-60 seconds, if the radar is turned on, but he probably won't have time to send the intel up the chain.
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You're pretty much guaranteed in an authoritarian regime like NK, that permission to launch is going to take a minute, too.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 4:45:49 PM EDT
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You're pretty much guaranteed in an authoritarian regime like NK, that permission to launch is going to take a minute, too.
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Some radar operator might see it for 45-60 seconds, if the radar is turned on, but he probably won't have time to send the intel up the chain.
You're pretty much guaranteed in an authoritarian regime like NK, that permission to launch is going to take a minute, too.
Yeah, their long-range missiles are probably all controlled by the national command authority directly. Kinda like the Chi-Com 2nd Artillery Corp.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 4:55:07 PM EDT
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Probably. Probably can't do anything about it either.
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So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed?
Probably. Probably can't do anything about it either.
The problem is what is China and / or Russia going to do when they detect it.

Would it be a different response than, for example, what our response would be if Iran nuked Tel-Aviv?
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 5:28:42 PM EDT
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We could sure use some fresh ideas to deal with this idgit.
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Round up the top 100 porn stars, put them on a place with Dennis Rodman and 2000 doses of pharmaceutical grade MDMA.

Escort them into North Korean air space, with the orders to land and take the Nork leadership on the ride of their lives.

Strength through Superior Pussypower.


The only downside is that other nations may heighten their nuclear ambitions after seeing America's "ride them into compliance" policy.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 6:09:28 PM EDT
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So much lol.

Seriously, do you suppose they know that the Korean war is still technically on? I wonder if they've even read the wikipedia page on it.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 6:59:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/5/2017 8:10:57 PM EDT
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So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed?
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@limaxray or anyone else.

Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles?
They have the Russian "Flap Lid" and "Big Bird" radars for the S300 system.

They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable.
So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed?
A B2 with it's belly full of JDAMs is harder to detect.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 8:12:44 PM EDT
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IMAGE: MIM-104 Patriot surface-to-air missile system protecting the airspace above Seoul, South Korea.

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Link Posted: 9/5/2017 8:14:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/5/2017 8:24:39 PM EDT
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A B2 with it's belly full of JDAMs is harder to detect.
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My plan involves possible confirmed static location of Kim Jung Un and his entourage during the Sep 9th indepence day parade. So big black bomber overhead is pretty obvious, especially considering the likely aircraft flyover traffic.

A ballistic missile can be launched from 50 miles out of Pyongyang and will come down at mach 5. They make them for subs with conventional warheads, AFAIK.

We could do him, most of his ministry, most of mil leadership, and simultaneously hit all NK nuke sites similarly, catch them with their pants down. Godfather ending type of attack.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 8:29:47 PM EDT
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My plan involves possible confirmed static location of Kim Jung Un and his entourage during the Sep 9th indepence day parade. So big black bomber overhead is pretty obvious, especially considering the likely aircraft flyover traffic.

A ballistic missile can be launched from 50 miles out of Pyongyang and will come down at mach 5. They make them for subs with conventional warheads, AFAIK.

We could do him, most of his ministry, most of mil leadership, and simultaneously hit all NK nuke sites similarly, catch them with their pants down. Godfather ending type of attack.
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A B2 with it's belly full of JDAMs is harder to detect.
My plan involves possible confirmed static location of Kim Jung Un and his entourage during the Sep 9th indepence day parade. So big black bomber overhead is pretty obvious, especially considering the likely aircraft flyover traffic.

A ballistic missile can be launched from 50 miles out of Pyongyang and will come down at mach 5. They make them for subs with conventional warheads, AFAIK.

We could do him, most of his ministry, most of mil leadership, and simultaneously hit all NK nuke sites similarly, catch them with their pants down. Godfather ending type of attack.
Yeah - they'll never think of that.  Especially 2 months after he started to use doubles to avoid such a decapitation.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 8:39:19 PM EDT
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Yeah - they'll never think of that.  Especially 2 months after he started to use doubles to avoid such a decapitation.
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It'll take way longer than two months to pork up your average NK'er enough to double for him.
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 8:50:01 PM EDT
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Ok here's my opening bid...


South Korea:

Re-equip Osan and Kunsan with nukes.  Re-activate Kwang Ju, Suwon, and Taegu Air Bases, and nuke them up too.

THAADs, C-Rams, Patriots etc. galore for all of the above.

SK immediately begins developing their own domestic nuclear program with our full assistance.



Japan:

Same thing-- full expansion and nuke up, complemented with all best countermeasures and Japan simultaneously fast tracking domestic nuke development with our full help.



Guam:

Re-activate the 43rd (Nuclear) Bombardment Wing.  Re-open the Nuclear weapon storage area for a full service operation, and restart the nuclear alert bomber area for on call 24/7 service.


Taiwan:

Covertly insert 20 fully loaded GLCM launchers and THAADS.  Also install C-Ram, Patriots, equip their navy with Aegis, etc., etc., etc...

Taiwan would need to be in secret, with the Nukes installed rapidly and only when they were ready to be rolled off and active.



GLCMs in Taiwan would make China absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT!


We'd retain title to the GLCMs, and would be receptive to their removal once NK was completely divested of all Nuclear asssets and production capability--- directly verified by us....

What China doesn't control NK?  Well, tough shit, it's a hard world.   Get rid of those pesky Nork nukes, and then we can remove the nuclear shield when the neighborhood behaves.   Otherwise pound sand...


P.S.--  for folks who don't know what GLCMs are:

4 mobile Nuclear rounds of "Fuck You"


https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/IMG_1506-299569.JPG

We got rid of them, but it wouldn't be a difficult system to resurrect.  If it were a very high and top secret priority-- it could happen fast.
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Trump should give China an ultimatum: Fatboy gives up his nukes and steps down, or Taiwan gets THAAD.
Ok here's my opening bid...


South Korea:

Re-equip Osan and Kunsan with nukes.  Re-activate Kwang Ju, Suwon, and Taegu Air Bases, and nuke them up too.

THAADs, C-Rams, Patriots etc. galore for all of the above.

SK immediately begins developing their own domestic nuclear program with our full assistance.



Japan:

Same thing-- full expansion and nuke up, complemented with all best countermeasures and Japan simultaneously fast tracking domestic nuke development with our full help.



Guam:

Re-activate the 43rd (Nuclear) Bombardment Wing.  Re-open the Nuclear weapon storage area for a full service operation, and restart the nuclear alert bomber area for on call 24/7 service.


Taiwan:

Covertly insert 20 fully loaded GLCM launchers and THAADS.  Also install C-Ram, Patriots, equip their navy with Aegis, etc., etc., etc...

Taiwan would need to be in secret, with the Nukes installed rapidly and only when they were ready to be rolled off and active.



GLCMs in Taiwan would make China absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT!


We'd retain title to the GLCMs, and would be receptive to their removal once NK was completely divested of all Nuclear asssets and production capability--- directly verified by us....

What China doesn't control NK?  Well, tough shit, it's a hard world.   Get rid of those pesky Nork nukes, and then we can remove the nuclear shield when the neighborhood behaves.   Otherwise pound sand...


P.S.--  for folks who don't know what GLCMs are:

4 mobile Nuclear rounds of "Fuck You"


https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/IMG_1506-299569.JPG

We got rid of them, but it wouldn't be a difficult system to resurrect.  If it were a very high and top secret priority-- it could happen fast.
I like it....and target their banking system. Their currency is false
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So you think he's going to send a double to host the biggest public appearance of the year without anyone finding out?
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The chicken is in the pot.
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Don't we have the ability to shoot them down and if so, why not post a ship out there to do it?
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Don't we have the ability to shoot them down and if so, why not post a ship out there to do it?
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Shoot what down?
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So you think he's going to send a double to host the biggest public appearance of the year without anyone finding out?
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Yeah - they'll never think of that.  Especially 2 months after he started to use doubles to avoid such a decapitation.
So you think he's going to send a double to host the biggest public appearance of the year without anyone finding out?
He has done it recently at a launch site.  Its not guessing - he is doing it.

"Anyone finding out"??

1.  Who exactly is going to "find out"?

2.  What do you think would happen if someone in the regime said something about it?

Its not as if they are inviting the world media to cover it.  This is the most secretive and controlling country in the world.
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Why should we care?  I never did figure this out.
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This

I can't muster any fucks to give
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He has done it recently at a launch site.  Its not guessing - he is doing it.

"Anyone finding out"??

1.  Who exactly is going to "find out"?

2.  What do you think would happen if someone in the regime said something about it?

Its not as if they are inviting the world media to cover it.  This is the most secretive and controlling country in the world.
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Its not a guarantee he'll be there but you're acting as if there is no chance he'll be there and I'd like to know how you know this. Is it based off your knowledge of security measures commonly used by dictators or is it on your inside knowledge of Kim himself and the NK govt

The Sep 9th parade isn't a midnight missile launch in the middle of nowhere, its fat boy presiding on an old style commie parade involving hundreds of thousands of people all looking at Kim Chunk Un. Its one of the biggest of the year.

SK or others obviously have some HUMINT in country, though likely limited. Any number of whom can hide a phone and binos and report back if its really Kim. And that's joe blow, i bet someone has mid to high level people some outside Intel agency have compromised who can feed us the Intel should we pay enough. NK are corrupt as fuck, they would do a lot for duffel bag worth of cash.
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Its not a guarantee he'll be there but you're acting as if there is no chance he'll be there and I'd like to know how you know this. Is it based off your knowledge of security measures commonly used by dictators or is it on your inside knowledge of Kim himself and the NK govt

The Sep 9th parade isn't a midnight missile launch in the middle of nowhere, its fat boy presiding on an old style commie parade involving hundreds of thousands of people all looking at Kim Chunk Un. Its one of the biggest of the year.

SK or others obviously have some HUMINT in country, though likely limited. Any number of whom can hide a phone and binos and report back if its really Kim. And that's joe blow, i bet someone has mid to high level people some outside Intel agency have compromised who can feed us the Intel should we pay enough. NK are corrupt as fuck, they would do a lot for duffel bag worth of cash.
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He has done it recently at a launch site.  Its not guessing - he is doing it.

"Anyone finding out"??

1.  Who exactly is going to "find out"?

2.  What do you think would happen if someone in the regime said something about it?

Its not as if they are inviting the world media to cover it.  This is the most secretive and controlling country in the world.
Its not a guarantee he'll be there but you're acting as if there is no chance he'll be there and I'd like to know how you know this. Is it based off your knowledge of security measures commonly used by dictators or is it on your inside knowledge of Kim himself and the NK govt

The Sep 9th parade isn't a midnight missile launch in the middle of nowhere, its fat boy presiding on an old style commie parade involving hundreds of thousands of people all looking at Kim Chunk Un. Its one of the biggest of the year.

SK or others obviously have some HUMINT in country, though likely limited. Any number of whom can hide a phone and binos and report back if its really Kim. And that's joe blow, i bet someone has mid to high level people some outside Intel agency have compromised who can feed us the Intel should we pay enough. NK are corrupt as fuck, they would do a lot for duffel bag worth of cash.
You are proposing an U.S. strategic missile strike strategy to decapitate a foreign government based upon some guy with binocs being able to distinguish between Kim - and the closest appearing/made-up/acting, identically dressed doubles that they can come up with in their country?  That guys with binocs being nowhere close to the VIP stand.
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