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Posted: 2/9/2020 1:41:22 PM EDT
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$$ for the state + $$ for the "instructor" industry = Not Gonna Happen.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was surprised TN doesn't have constitutional carry yet. Kentucky remains king, East of the Mississippi and our redneck reputation of being backwards hillbillies keeps the liberals out. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 2:05:03 PM EDT
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Wyoming.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 2:57:37 PM EDT
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God I miss NH  Only knock is loaded long guns in vehicles.....and the ever increasing pressure from the liberals moving north. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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New Hampshire may not be #1, but it’s in the top 3 easily. Only knock is loaded long guns in vehicles.....and the ever increasing pressure from the liberals moving north. We have constitutional carry, castle doctrine, campus carry - and even our teachers can be armed. The only thing standing between us and full-blown Masshole Stasi is the governor's veto. A while back my GF and I switched vehicles for the day so I could rotate her tires. There were a couple of loaded P228 mags in the trunk of my car but I didn't think anything of it. At one point my GF texted me and said she was on the way to MA with her Mom to go shopping. I just about stroked out and made her turn around - lest she get pulled over and wind up in prison 
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:07:38 PM EDT
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No state is safe anymore.
It will take constant vigilance, voting and political activism to keep the leftists at bay. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:08:16 PM EDT
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NH is pretty good, but we're surrounded by 'tards.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:22:00 PM EDT
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I'm looking for a great gun friendly state to move too. Hopefully warm but I want about 80/100 acres and I'm tired of Midwest winters. Hit me. This passed in 2012. Although I am unaware of any test cases. Amendment 2: "Strict scrutiny" for gun laws - Approved The requirement that courts use "strict scrutiny" when evaluating the constitutionality of gun laws passed with about 74.3 percent of the vote. The law codifies in the constitution the standard used by the current U.S. Supreme Court when evaluating gun laws, requiring the most stringent standard be used when determining whether regulations infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. The amendment also eliminates constitutional language specifically allowing the Legislature to regulate concealed weapons. Under strict scrutiny, regulations must be narrowly tailored to fit a public purpose and it would be up to the government to prove that regulations were constitutional, rather than requiring opponents of a measure prove that the law violates the constitution. Supporters argued that the amendment is necessary to protect guns rights since the precedent-setting Supreme Court rulings that established the standard were decided by a 5-4 vote. But opponents argue the amendment would jeopardize the concealed-carry permit system, impair police work and call into question regulations that prohibit bringing weapons to certain locations and events. this could very easily be used as a stepping stone to constitutional carry. We already have permitless open carry. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:23:39 PM EDT
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That's the part that scares the hell out of me. We have constitutional carry, castle doctrine, campus carry - and even our teachers can be armed. The only thing standing between us and full-blown Masshole Stasi is the governor's veto. A while back my GF and I switched vehicles for the day so I could rotate her tires. There were a couple of loaded P228 mags in the trunk of my car but I didn't think anything of it. At one point my GF texted me and said she was on the way to MA with her Mom to go shopping. I just about stroked out and made her turn around - lest she get pulled over and wind up in prison |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:25:45 PM EDT
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Seems most forget Oklahoma, constitutional carry, no restrictions of what you can own, overall super gun friendly and conservative as a state. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:38:32 PM EDT
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Louisiana. Not joking. This passed in 2012. Although I am unaware of any test cases. Amendment 2: "Strict scrutiny" for gun laws - Approved The requirement that courts use "strict scrutiny" when evaluating the constitutionality of gun laws passed with about 74.3 percent of the vote. The law codifies in the constitution the standard used by the current U.S. Supreme Court when evaluating gun laws, requiring the most stringent standard be used when determining whether regulations infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. The amendment also eliminates constitutional language specifically allowing the Legislature to regulate concealed weapons. Under strict scrutiny, regulations must be narrowly tailored to fit a public purpose and it would be up to the government to prove that regulations were constitutional, rather than requiring opponents of a measure prove that the law violates the constitution. Supporters argued that the amendment is necessary to protect guns rights since the precedent-setting Supreme Court rulings that established the standard were decided by a 5-4 vote. But opponents argue the amendment would jeopardize the concealed-carry permit system, impair police work and call into question regulations that prohibit bringing weapons to certain locations and events. this could very easily be used as a stepping stone to constitutional carry. We already have permitless open carry. Too old for heat, humidity, snakes, etc. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 3:43:46 PM EDT
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You have to be a special kind of moron to love Mississippi like I do, but we have great gun laws and some beautiful scenery if you pic the right spot.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:21:36 PM EDT
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In KY Cities can rape your income for another 2.5% on top of the states income tax. KY also has yearly personal property tax on cars. Taxes are too damn high in KY. TN is my first choice. SC second. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:23:41 PM EDT
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Too bad your climate is so shitty. Too old for heat, humidity, snakes, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Louisiana. Not joking. This passed in 2012. Although I am unaware of any test cases. Amendment 2: "Strict scrutiny" for gun laws - Approved The requirement that courts use "strict scrutiny" when evaluating the constitutionality of gun laws passed with about 74.3 percent of the vote. The law codifies in the constitution the standard used by the current U.S. Supreme Court when evaluating gun laws, requiring the most stringent standard be used when determining whether regulations infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. The amendment also eliminates constitutional language specifically allowing the Legislature to regulate concealed weapons. Under strict scrutiny, regulations must be narrowly tailored to fit a public purpose and it would be up to the government to prove that regulations were constitutional, rather than requiring opponents of a measure prove that the law violates the constitution. Supporters argued that the amendment is necessary to protect guns rights since the precedent-setting Supreme Court rulings that established the standard were decided by a 5-4 vote. But opponents argue the amendment would jeopardize the concealed-carry permit system, impair police work and call into question regulations that prohibit bringing weapons to certain locations and events. this could very easily be used as a stepping stone to constitutional carry. We already have permitless open carry. Too old for heat, humidity, snakes, etc. 
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:27:18 PM EDT
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A while back my GF and I switched vehicles for the day so I could rotate her tires. There were a couple of loaded P228 mags in the trunk of my car but I didn't think anything of it. At one point my GF texted me and said she was on the way to MA with her Mom to go shopping. I just about stroked out and made her turn around - lest she get pulled over and wind up in prison Carrying a gun ("firearms" as defined by NYS Penal Law 265 are illegal) in your vehicle is dicey if not unloaded, locked up and totally inaccessible. I would not even think to leave even a genuine 5 round magazine visible anywhere in the car here in the metropolitan NYC area as that probably violates some portion of the "loaded" law 
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:28:56 PM EDT
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Wyoming |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:30:03 PM EDT
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It says AZ is the best but im sure that will be under heavy attack soon.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:30:31 PM EDT
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Puerto Rico! Oh, wait you said state. @Miami_JBT
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:31:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wyoming is best, but too bad it's full |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:34:22 PM EDT
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AZ is best, 6 years in a row. There are dems trying to pass a red flag law, and our POS governor supports it. But we have constitutional carry, and a democrat minority, and it will likely fail again. I'm not planning on voting for him again at least not unless a better candidate comes up. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:39:44 PM EDT
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In before the blahblahblahwe'refull chuckleheads Nothing good happens when people from California and NY move to better (politically) states. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 5:41:49 PM EDT
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NH summary. You decide.
No permit required for OC or CC No prohibited locations other than court rooms (secured check in required). No public school prohibition (subject to GFSZA). No public college campus prohibition. No bar/restaurant prohibition. No drinking prohibition. No polling place prohibition. No church prohibition. No government building prohibition. No minimum age to carry or possess (subject to federal law). No duty to inform. Signs have no force of law (subject to trespass after being asked to leave). $10 fee for 5 years if you choose to get a license. Stand your ground. Display of firearm does not constitute use of deadly force. Hunting with suppressors. No NFA restrictions (subject to federal law). State preemption. Range protection. No knife laws - switchblades legal. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:00:54 PM EDT
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We make up for it in food. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Louisiana. Not joking. This passed in 2012. Although I am unaware of any test cases. Amendment 2: "Strict scrutiny" for gun laws - Approved The requirement that courts use "strict scrutiny" when evaluating the constitutionality of gun laws passed with about 74.3 percent of the vote. The law codifies in the constitution the standard used by the current U.S. Supreme Court when evaluating gun laws, requiring the most stringent standard be used when determining whether regulations infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. The amendment also eliminates constitutional language specifically allowing the Legislature to regulate concealed weapons. Under strict scrutiny, regulations must be narrowly tailored to fit a public purpose and it would be up to the government to prove that regulations were constitutional, rather than requiring opponents of a measure prove that the law violates the constitution. Supporters argued that the amendment is necessary to protect guns rights since the precedent-setting Supreme Court rulings that established the standard were decided by a 5-4 vote. But opponents argue the amendment would jeopardize the concealed-carry permit system, impair police work and call into question regulations that prohibit bringing weapons to certain locations and events. this could very easily be used as a stepping stone to constitutional carry. We already have permitless open carry. Too old for heat, humidity, snakes, etc. 
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:03:24 PM EDT
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Seems most forget Oklahoma, constitutional carry, no restrictions of what you can own, overall super gun friendly and conservative as a state. But, there are some things we still need to work on. - weapons still not allowed in schools, with some exceptions for dropping kids off in the parking lot, special extensive training for teachers to carry, and applicability vs. county rules. - weapons not permitted in bars. I see the point of this, but I would be happier if it read “no consumption of alcohol while carrying” (which we also have). Sometimes when waiting on a table at a nice restaurant, they seat us in the bar. So I have to stand in the lobby, even though I have no intention of drinking. Probably some more, but these seem important to me. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:09:54 PM EDT
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OK is OK.
1 day of snow thus far this year and we went a couple years with none. You can always count on at least a few days in the winter where the weather is unusually warm too. It got up to 70 here today. Gun laws, or lack thereof, are better than just about anywhere. Constitutional carry was recently passed. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:12:50 PM EDT
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I hope the liberals do too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems most forget Oklahoma, constitutional carry, no restrictions of what you can own, overall super gun friendly and conservative as a state. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:15:38 PM EDT
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You have to be a special kind of moron to love Mississippi like I do, but we have great gun laws and some beautiful scenery if you pic the right spot. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259216/95AA92AE-0BBF-4BBC-985A-A41A3F9B200B_jpe-1270062.JPG |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:17:50 PM EDT
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Wyoming is best, but too bad it’s full Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A state with 540k is easy to manipulate. Be careful. But I'd agree Wyoming is probably the best state out there for everything America right now. Can't keep me out. 
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:23:04 PM EDT
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Why are they “chuckleheads”. Nothing good happens when people from California and NY move to better (politically) states. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before the blahblahblahwe'refull chuckleheads Nothing good happens when people from California and NY move to better (politically) states. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:29:41 PM EDT
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Glad to hear that there is no present problem. My discussions with friends in Idaho give me the impression that they are concerned about future growth in and around Boise, bringing in city folks from Washington and California. I shoot at a lot of competition venues in Idaho and I hear this a lot. But, as you say, preemption is good when you have a solid Conservative Legislature. It works well here in Wyoming to keep the Commies in Teton and Albany Counties in check. As for "Cold as Fuck": A man has to look deep inside himself and decide what he values more- freedom, or warm feet. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:31:11 PM EDT
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Florida
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:34:52 PM EDT
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NH summary. You decide. No permit required for OC or CC No prohibited locations other than court rooms (secured check in required). No public school prohibition (subject to GFSZA). No public college campus prohibition. No bar/restaurant prohibition. No drinking prohibition. No polling place prohibition. No church prohibition. No government building prohibition. No minimum age to carry or possess (subject to federal law). No duty to inform. Signs have no force of law (subject to trespass after being asked to leave). $10 fee for 5 years if you choose to get a license. Stand your ground. Display of firearm does not constitute use of deadly force. Hunting with suppressors. No NFA restrictions (subject to federal law). State preemption. Range protection. No knife laws - switchblades legal. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:44:10 PM EDT
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make sure the gun friendly state isn't being invaded by lefties whose numbers could change the demographics quickly
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:44:21 PM EDT
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You betty be rich if you want 100 acres here, unless you want a place out in BFE with no trees and no water. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At this point, I don’t think any state is safe from the gun grabbers. AZ is probably your best bet at this point. Who knows how long it’ll be safe though. Arizona is the best hands down as far as gun laws. Cochise county property taxes are low. Can’t speak for everywhere. If you want a rural area Cochise county or eastern AZ is what you seek. ETA: I would take a hard look at Eastern Oklahoma in your position also. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:51:02 PM EDT
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List is nonsense. Think about it: the biggest threat to gun owners is city people. Time and again, we see gun owners steamrolled by urban politicians and their voters: Washington, Seattle. New York, NYC and suburbs. Colorado, Denver and the front range. And now, Virginia. You want a state with NO large cities. Arizona is not such a place: Phoenix,Tucson. Idaho is increasingly not such a place: Boise. Wyoming IS the place. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 6:55:22 PM EDT
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Arizona and Wyoming. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:35:30 PM EDT
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Several liberals I have known have left this state, usually proceeded by "I can't stand living in this backwards, right wing state. I'm moving to (California/Oregon/Washington). Heh! Good riddance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems most forget Oklahoma, constitutional carry, no restrictions of what you can own, overall super gun friendly and conservative as a state. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:44:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the case everywhere. South eastern AZ is water rich with wooded areas. Is BFE though. Arizona is the best hands down as far as gun laws. Cochise county property taxes are low. Can’t speak for everywhere. If you want a rural area Cochise county or eastern AZ is what you seek. ETA: I would take a hard look at Eastern Oklahoma in your position also. All this make it very attractive to lefty types who'd have a nice place to live and plenty of shit to stir. You get enough of them in there and hello Virginia. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:45:49 PM EDT
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I know a couple as well. I have noticed some liberal shit in North OKC that wasn't there in the past either. I think the mexicans on the southside pushed the North. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:46:28 PM EDT
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SC ain't bad other than we don't have open carry. Other than that our gun laws aren't enforced for the most part, you can still ride around town with a rifle in the front seat and nobody cares. It's hot and humid in the summer but our winters are mild. 4 1/2 month long deer season and excellent fishing year round.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:49:34 PM EDT
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Wyoming will be the last man standing, IMO.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:50:46 PM EDT
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Not Alaska, costs too much to ship shit.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:54:04 PM EDT
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WY MT UT? ID? On the east side - TN KY WV? GA is in danger SC maybe? A LOT of blacks there who vote dem. Just saying . I'm looking to leave VA over more than just guns but want to stay close to family. My choices in order of preference - TN SC KY WV NC (And I probably won't quit my job for NC, I'll just move there and drive and commute an hour or so) |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 8:58:57 PM EDT
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I'm looking for a great gun friendly state to move too. Hopefully warm but I want about 80/100 acres and I'm tired of Midwest winters. Hit me. But we’re full. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:01:08 PM EDT
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I travel several states and areas where gun buster signs carry the weight of law make me a bit anxious.... I know that concealed means concealed but there’s no place like home.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:04:29 PM EDT
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I know you said no Midwest states but ND and SD are GTG. 
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:11:12 PM EDT
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Not Texas. I'm told all the time here our gun laws are terrible. IF I were to leave it would be 300 miles north to Oklahoma. They are solid right wing and the winters aren’t too bad. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:13:27 PM EDT
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are liberals moving to Cheyenne? is that the "Big City" for WY? influenced by Colorado liberals? seriously, just wondering. myself, also considering WY, having seen what locust liberals do to the landscape. Wyoming is a pretty empty state. It's all relative, according to some people Cheyenne is a huge city compared to where they live. As far as transplants screwing up WY I don't see that happening anytime soon, it takes a pretty hearty person to live there year round. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:14:43 PM EDT
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I'm looking for a great gun friendly state to move too. Hopefully warm but I want about 80/100 acres and I'm tired of Midwest winters. Hit me. After the 2018 elections we now have a left wing agriculture commissioner cunt doing everything she can to attack CCW and preemption. A republican legislature pushing for a ban on or heavily restricted private firearms sales. A ballot initiative system that too easily allows anti-gun amendments to be voted on and made part of the state constitution. |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:36:18 PM EDT
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Missouri's pretty darn close!
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:36:29 PM EDT
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I don't know about the best but Kentucky is pretty damn good.
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:48:49 PM EDT
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Except Wyoming is rapidly becoming a weekend place for rich urbanite transplants like yourself. You don't need a city if you are owned by a city. Haven’t you posted in the past that your home is New York City and shared your general disdain for the poors who still have the unmitigated audacity to live in your general vicinity? If you aren’t the guy I’m thinking of, I would be amazed if you disagree that rich outsiders buying up homes and land in scenic parts of the West has had a profound effect on politics in the mountain West. |
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