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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:32:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, because Californians aren't allowed to drive into a bordering state and buy it.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds like a bordering state person could make money transporting black market equipment into California. Yeah, because Californians aren't allowed to drive into a bordering state and buy it. When they are buying the gas powered equipment, they can also pickup a few cases of windshield washer fluid too. Because they banned that a few years ago also. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:34:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CA regulators can eat bowls of dicks with ketchup. Many probably do, and not talking about the genuine females. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:42:01 PM EDT
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They'll ban lithium batteries next and call the law the domestic agriculture full employment act. How many illegals does it take to hand sweep one condo complex?
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:43:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When they are buying the gas powered equipment, they can also pickup a few cases of windshield washer fluid too. Because they banned that a few years ago also. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like a bordering state person could make money transporting black market equipment into California. Yeah, because Californians aren't allowed to drive into a bordering state and buy it. When they are buying the gas powered equipment, they can also pickup a few cases of windshield washer fluid too. Because they banned that a few years ago also.  |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:46:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet Newsom has everything replace at the .gov mansion by midnight tomorrow. Replaced? They probably have stockpiles of equipment that will last decades. Plus, since when does gov follow gov rules? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:47:58 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is this remotely legal? (4th amendment) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like a bordering state person could make money transporting black market equipment into California. Check stations in place for produce and other things on the major highways between the borders. And they check for produce....and only produce....hell...they don't even check, they just ask! Not exactly true, I've been searched twice over the years. I've also been asked about bringing in aluminum cans and potted houseplants on other occasions. The first time I was searched, I had driven across the country and the front of the car was covered in a thick layer of bugs. I think that is why he chose to search I knew how tightly the trunk was packed, and thought it would be funny to watch him unpack and repack it. I popped the trunk, and told him to go right ahead. He opened the trunk and saw the tetris job inside, said fuck it, and sent me on my way. The second time I was searched, i was driving a moving truck. They made me unlock the box and open the door. He looked in from outside for about 30 seconds while traffic was piling up behind me and then told me I could leave. The bottom line is if you tick enough boxes, they will go for it. (Then you take the long way around). No clue. I cross a number of the check points a half a dozen times a year and have never been searched. As I said in my first post all they've ever asked is if I was bringing in any fruits/vegetables, I answer no and they wave me through. On the occasion I pass through on my motorcycle they have waved me through without stopping and asking. Guess I don't check enough boxes. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care equipment. Maybe if you only have a 100x100 lot. Last time I ran a weed eater on our property / fence lines it took 3 tanks of fuel and almost full hours of wacking weeds. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:58:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a 25 horsepower and up limit. If you get the big boy stuff you aren’t affected. What are you mowing like 2 acres? No, the 25 hp is a devious selection. 25 and up has tier issues, regen stuff, etc. with some equipment , so going after under 25 has more impact than at first glance. Under 25 has to achieve zero emissions and wipes that out. Over 25 falls into some federal regs. And gets relatively pricey. There is the lithium mining for batteries. Burning coal, damping rivers, installing turbines, and areas of solar panels all have environments, wildlife, etc. investments and ongoing impacts, and we as a whole, let alone CA, are seriously anti nuclear. We do the same when you look at the resources that go into corn for ethanol for the return. I do about 8 acres of mowing and maintain about 3/4 mile of trails. Maybe 1/4 mile of hedges to trim. Once a year I also whack about a mile of fencing. It’s a stupid law that impacts the environment worse, and butt fucks freedom and choice, while people think they are saving the environment. Actually, it’s not stupid. It was thought out and planned to dictate and control. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:11:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care equipment. Hahaha that’s funny shit there, maybe for the 1/8-1/4 acre lot. Full discloser I do have both gas and electric power trimmers, blower and trimmers. The gas kick their asses all day long for serious work, for light quick convenience work the electrics do work fine. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:12:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No clue. I cross a number of the check points a half a dozen times a year and have never been searched. As I said in my first post all they've ever asked is if I was bringing in any fruits/vegetables, I answer no and they wave me through. On the occasion I pass through on my motorcycle they have waved me through without stopping and asking. Guess I don't check enough boxes. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:15:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like a bordering state person could make money transporting black market equipment into California. I think you mean by setting up shop 100 yards outside hostile territory. I'll sell to anyone, but I'm not taking shit into California. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:16:05 PM EDT
[#12]
Comes now generators, lawn mowers, water pumps, rototillers, etc., with 26 Hp engines.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:17:26 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, this include ALL internal combustion engines under 25 hp. Generators, lawn mowers, water pumps, rototillers, anything with a 25 or less hp engine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care equipment. So if a guy could swap an LS1 onto a Snapper, it would be legal? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:21:07 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the problem with fruits & vegetables? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No clue. I cross a number of the check points a half a dozen times a year and have never been searched. As I said in my first post all they've ever asked is if I was bringing in any fruits/vegetables, I answer no and they wave me through. On the occasion I pass through on my motorcycle they have waved me through without stopping and asking. Guess I don't check enough boxes. It's my understanding the concern is bringing in outside fruits/vegetables could also bring in invasive insects that could damage crops. You know, because invasive species always obey border crossing signs. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:21:54 PM EDT
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Electric pressure washers suck ass. So do electric weedwhackers and chainsaws.
Does anyone even MAKE a battery powered tiller? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 2:34:51 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care equipment. How do you know so much about my yard and what the best machines are for it? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:24:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The materials required to make electricity aren’t carbon neutral, and the state wants to shut down power plants. Enjoy mowing with dead batteries and black outs. Mining lithium is getting harder and harder thanks to environmental groups protecting the earth as much as possible. I can charge batteries off the 75kw generator. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:27:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: City folks are so cute.  You plainly aren’t listening. For real work I always used a 48hp tractor or a 25hp mower and that’s not affected. Other than chainsaws this isn’t a big deal for most people except those who have a couple of acres and use prosumer equipment. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:27:55 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got rid of my small lawnmower a few years back and replaced it with an electric, because I got a riding mower and only used it for small areas. It now takes two freakin' batteries that charge forever to do that. And the batteries cost $100 a pop. I should've kept the gas mower. Batteries suck. Electric mowers are great because I can get all on the phone with my mother once a week while I mow. Couldn’t do that with gas. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:28:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The issue here isn't that different people have different preferences, it's that the government is removing the ability to choose what many prefer. It is, at the very least, not a legitimate function of government. That’s basically what I said. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:28:49 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you live on a postage stamp, yes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care equipment. What he says, and yes I live in California but switched over to gas some time ago. Far better if one goes with the quality manufacturers. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:29:09 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care equipment. I’ve yet to see a single Mexican with an electric leaf blower. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:30:33 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you mean by setting up shop 100 yards outside hostile territory. I'll sell to anyone, but I'm not taking shit into California. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:32:03 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you cut down 10-15 large trees with electric? What about ATVs and go karts? I'm sure the big tree companies have an exemption. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:32:05 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll concede the point, reluctantly for the sake of argument, for an average yard. No go clear the fire lane on the back 40. Yeah we had 92 acres that used to be a stable with riding trails through the woods. 8-11 acres plus the trails got mowed. 48 hp tractor, a 25hp zero turn and a little push mower for a couple spots the zero turn wouldn’t fit. I can’t imagine having 8 acres to mow and being so poor you can’t get a 25hp mower to do it. That must be awful. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:33:39 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the 25 hp is a devious selection. 25 and up has tier issues, regen stuff, etc. with some equipment , so going after under 25 has more impact than at first glance. Under 25 has to achieve zero emissions and wipes that out. Over 25 falls into some federal regs. And gets relatively pricey. There is the lithium mining for batteries. Burning coal, damping rivers, installing turbines, and areas of solar panels all have environments, wildlife, etc. investments and ongoing impacts, and we as a whole, let alone CA, are seriously anti nuclear. We do the same when you look at the resources that go into corn for ethanol for the return. I do about 8 acres of mowing and maintain about 3/4 mile of trails. Maybe 1/4 mile of hedges to trim. Once a year I also whack about a mile of fencing. It’s a stupid law that impacts the environment worse, and butt fucks freedom and choice, while people think they are saving the environment. Actually, it’s not stupid. It was thought out and planned to dictate and control. Hasn’t been an issue. We have a full time diesel mechanic so maybe that’s why. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:35:06 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Electric pressure washers suck ass. So do electric weedwhackers and chainsaws. Does anyone even MAKE a battery powered tiller? I’ll concede that, the stand alone electric pressure washers suck. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 3:55:04 PM EDT
[#28]
I can see electrics for little 14 inch homeowner chainsaws, but they seriously expect loggers to do the job with anything other than a gas powered saw?
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:00:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You live in a desert, why do you need lawn equipment at all? Because they import an ocean of fresh water from other states and dump it all on the ground to grow grass and oranges. When I lived in SoCal besides the smog and the traffic, watering the grass every single day of the year was the other thing I found bizarre. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:00:24 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Check stations in place for produce and other things on the major highways between the borders. Looks like I found me a new career path. [Smuggling power equipment into states with retarded Governor's] All you would need to do if Newscum ran for anything is make an add showing homeless, gas prices, illegals, and all the other bullshit. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:04:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope that applies to State and local and fed Government working in Cali as well. Just like Kumall'ya and her gas stove. Democrats are complete hypocrites and never follow their own rules. Even Newscum and his cunt Aunt Pelosi were caught violating their own lockdowns. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:04:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the problem with fruits & vegetables? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No clue. I cross a number of the check points a half a dozen times a year and have never been searched. As I said in my first post all they've ever asked is if I was bringing in any fruits/vegetables, I answer no and they wave me through. On the occasion I pass through on my motorcycle they have waved me through without stopping and asking. Guess I don't check enough boxes. Importation of pests that could affect food production. Think Dutch Elm beetle issues but food related instead. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:11:25 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When they are buying the gas powered equipment, they can also pickup a few cases of windshield washer fluid too. Because they banned that a few years ago also. Huh. I didn't know that. I bought some concentrate that someone in GD recommended from Amazon. No restrictions. Oh, and it works great on bugs.  
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:12:11 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like a bordering state person could make money transporting black market equipment into California. Yeah, because Californians aren't allowed to drive into a bordering state and buy it. When they are buying the gas powered equipment, they can also pickup a few cases of windshield washer fluid too. Because they banned that a few years ago also. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/200-816.gif https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/programs/consumer-products-program/complying-consumer-products-regulations/windshield |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:14:18 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care equipment. I like electric better but I have a small yard. That said, this just the beginning. NY is outlawing all fossil fuel use in New constructed homes after 2026 I think. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:37:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll concede that, the stand alone electric pressure washers suck. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Electric pressure washers suck ass. So do electric weedwhackers and chainsaws. Does anyone even MAKE a battery powered tiller? I’ll concede that, the stand alone electric pressure washers suck. They do ok on vehicles where you don’t need paint-removing pressures and VERY small projects. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 4:54:11 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They do ok on vehicles where you don’t need paint-removing pressures and VERY small projects. A PTO powered model would fix the issue. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:17:47 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A PTO powered model would fix the issue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They do ok on vehicles where you don’t need paint-removing pressures and VERY small projects. A PTO powered model would fix the issue. What would be the PTO source? A gas or diesel engine? [both electric and fossil fuel pressure washers are already basically self contained PTO equipment, the power source shaft is coupled with the pump shaft to drive it] |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:21:35 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's my understanding the concern is bringing in outside fruits/vegetables could also bring in invasive insects that could damage crops. You know, because invasive species always obey border crossing signs. ETA: Does that mean that there are no fruits or vegetables available that are not native to CA? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:24:06 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care equipment. Bullshit. Get back to me when you can mow all day on a pro level zero turn on a single charge. Same is true for blowers. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:24:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What would be the PTO source? A gas or diesel engine? [both electric and fossil fuel pressure washers are already basically self contained PTO equipment, the power source shaft is coupled with the pump shaft to drive it] Most of the stuff I use with PTOs is diesel powered but all of it is exempt from this CA rule. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:25:44 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit. Get back to me when you can mow all day on a pro level zero turn on a single charge. Same is true for blowers. I can’t mow all day on a single gas tank either, but I can swap batteries. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:32:16 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t mow all day on a single gas tank either, but I can swap batteries. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bullshit. Get back to me when you can mow all day on a pro level zero turn on a single charge. Same is true for blowers. I can’t mow all day on a single gas tank either, but I can swap batteries. My FI Kubota ZT can run all day, it hold's enough fuel for 7+ hours of running. [for commercial use it's great, home use, kind of nutso, I like to run tanks down to less then 1/4 tank before refilling and that takes a long time depending on the time between mows. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:43:45 PM EDT
[#44]
I suppose if the 300 gallon tanks at the house weren’t there I would prioritize reducing the number of gas cans I have to carry around.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:45:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t mow all day on a single gas tank either, but I can swap batteries. Electric won’t be feasible until you can charge it in 10 minutes, get comparable run time and performance for the same $. Skimmed the rest of the thread. You sound kind of high and mighty. People should be able to buy the tools they want to get the work done they have to do. Gas powered equipment is powerful, lightweight, efficient and effective. I’ve read that the manufacture and disposal of li-ion batteries is more harmful to the environment than the entire service life of a piece of ice-powered equipment. It isn’t the government’s purview to dictate things like this anyway. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 5:48:02 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Electric won’t be feasible until you can charge it in 10 minutes, get comparable run time and performance for the same $. Skimmed the rest of the thread. You sound kind of high and mighty. People should be able to buy the tools they want to get the work done they have to do. Gas powered equipment is powerful, lightweight, efficient and effective. I’ve read that the manufacture and disposal of li-ion batteries is more harmful to the environment than the entire service life of a piece of ice-powered equipment. It isn’t the government’s purview to dictate things like this anyway. As previously briefed, I don’t think this should be the law either. But I like electric equipment because it’s small, light and quiet. For big jobs I like big equipment. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:36:45 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Electric mowers are great because I can get all on the phone with my mother once a week while I mow. Couldn’t do that with gas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I got rid of my small lawnmower a few years back and replaced it with an electric, because I got a riding mower and only used it for small areas. It now takes two freakin' batteries that charge forever to do that. And the batteries cost $100 a pop. I should've kept the gas mower. Batteries suck. Electric mowers are great because I can get all on the phone with my mother once a week while I mow. Couldn’t do that with gas. Now I know you're full of shit My ego is loud not as loud as a gas mower but loud enough that listening to music with ear buds is not possible |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:52:48 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I disagree with this being the law, electric is just better for yard care https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/17/politics/natural-gas-ban-preemptive-laws-gop-climate/index.html |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 12:09:57 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now I know you're full of shit My ego is loud not as loud as a gas mower but loud enough that listening to music with ear buds is not possible Ops-Core AMP FTW. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 12:20:47 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ey Carumba! ETA: Does that mean that there are no fruits or vegetables available that are not native to CA? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's my understanding the concern is bringing in outside fruits/vegetables could also bring in invasive insects that could damage crops. You know, because invasive species always obey border crossing signs. ETA: Does that mean that there are no fruits or vegetables available that are not native to CA? Of course they are available here that don't come from here. I don't claim to know the retardation that is CA! I do know that plants not native grown here but are sold here have to be quarantined for a certain amount of time before being sold. I think they have to be inspected first....but don't hold me to that. |
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