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Posted: 9/24/2023 10:58:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife was raised Catholic, I was raised Christian. We found the middle ground of Lutheran. You were raised PROTESTANT Lutheran |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 10:59:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So Catholic church isn’t christian. You’ve been in GD too long. PROTESTANT your wife is a PROTESTANT Eta The Catholic and Orthodox churches have apostolic succesion Your wife’s (and any protestant church does not) This. I get SO tired of the "you're not a Christian" stuff. Not calling you out OP. Just a general statement based on the many religious threads that I've seen here over the years. If you believe that Christ is your savior you're a Christian. It's not up to other people to decide whether you're in the right club. They think it is, but they're no better or worse than anyone else and should focus on their own homes and not others' homes. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:00:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The husband is the head of the household the same way Jesus is the head of the church. Your wife goes to the church you tell her to go to. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:01:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We need to end this infighting amongst the Christian Faiths. We are nearing the end of Western Civilization. Religion is declining at a rapid rate. This is supposed to be funny, but at the rate we are going it may be true https://i.imgur.com/Hf3LQ6Yl.jpg Kinda hard to not have infighting when half of the denominations of allegedly Christian churches openly embrace the disgusting degeneracy in that cartoon. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:01:37 PM EDT
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Just a find a church you both like, you can watch the service online for most churches these days. Get up next sunday make a nice big breakfast and sit at home and watch a handful of churchs in your area see what you like. This way you can cover 3 or 4 in a day to get a vibe.
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it helps, tell her Jesus said Peter would be the rock, i.e., the catholic church. We just have Protestantism because kings were greedy and didn't know it was their fault when they couldn't produce a male heir. And you would be Wrong |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you could switch back and forth. one sunday at your church. one sunday at hers. This probably makes the most sense. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:04:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually Christ was a Jew Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Catholic Church is the only church ever authorized by Christ and is meant to be the only church. Actually Christ was a Jew Then why did he tell Peter that he was the rock that his church would be founded on and give him the keys to heavan and hell? |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:04:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So Catholic church isn’t christian. You’ve been in GD too long. PROTESTANT your wife is a PROTESTANT Eta The Catholic and Orthodox churches have apostolic succesion Your wife’s (and any protestant church does not) Anglicans. Old School Lutherans. The rejection of apostolic succession spring from the "reformation" but was not part and parcel to it. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:05:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Upon this rock I will build my church," was not a reference to Peter being the first Pope. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Catholic Church is the only church ever authorized by Christ and is meant to be the only church. Wrong |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:05:51 PM EDT
[#11]
Regarding Christianity, The Roman Catholic Church is the one true religion.
All the rest came to be after. Therefore not the true religion. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:05:56 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why did he tell Peter that he was the rock that his church would be founded on and give him the keys to heavan and hell? That's NOT what he said |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:07:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t think OP’s catechism—if he even had one—was great Nor any of the other lapsed Catholics on this thread who so blithely gave up the Eucharist. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:07:44 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Regarding Christianity, The Roman Catholic Church is the one true religion. All the rest came to be after. Therefore not the true religion. 
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah He means to say “evangelical” or “pentecostal” or whatever his wife is going to. Not apostolic for sure Doubt those churches even dare call themselves apostolic Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Apostolic. I don’t think that word means what you think it means. Yeah He means to say “evangelical” or “pentecostal” or whatever his wife is going to. Not apostolic for sure Doubt those churches even dare call themselves apostolic Some do. Variants of stuff like this come up all the time. We have had several prominent posters espouse such beliefs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trail_of_Blood#:~:text=The%20Trail%20of%20Blood%20is,succession%20from%20the%20first%20Christians. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:12:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird how it took 1600 years to officially add the books they needed to separate their faith and elevate false teachings  Yes, I know about one book discussed in the 300s and another in the late 500s. We still see a false elevation of Mary and statues of Mary in places of worship. Having seen how the Pope has continued to defy proper teachings with statements in direct contradiction to scripture, it is tough to have a leader that does not lead the church like it should be led. And this is from a former Catholic Jew that found the light  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Catholic Church is the only church ever authorized by Christ and is meant to be the only church. Weird how it took 1600 years to officially add the books they needed to separate their faith and elevate false teachings Yes, I know about one book discussed in the 300s and another in the late 500s. We still see a false elevation of Mary and statues of Mary in places of worship. Having seen how the Pope has continued to defy proper teachings with statements in direct contradiction to scripture, it is tough to have a leader that does not lead the church like it should be led. And this is from a former Catholic Jew that found the light  |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:15:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I don't typically debate prots, I will keep this one in my back pocket. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Regarding Christianity, The Roman Catholic Church is the one true religion. All the rest came to be after. Therefore not the true religion. They are going to hate you for the same reasons everyone hated jesus, because he spoke the truth |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:16:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And wouldn’t recognize rabbinic judaism Second Temple was his time Hugely altered Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Catholic Church is the only church ever authorized by Christ and is meant to be the only church. Actually Christ was a Jew And wouldn’t recognize rabbinic judaism Second Temple was his time Hugely altered I all honesty. Christ would not recognize today's Christians as well... |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:17:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some do. Variants of stuff like this come up all the time. We have had several prominent posters espouse such beliefs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trail_of_Blood#:~:text=The%20Trail%20of%20Blood%20is,succession%20from%20the%20first%20Christians. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Apostolic. I don’t think that word means what you think it means. Yeah He means to say “evangelical” or “pentecostal” or whatever his wife is going to. Not apostolic for sure Doubt those churches even dare call themselves apostolic Some do. Variants of stuff like this come up all the time. We have had several prominent posters espouse such beliefs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trail_of_Blood#:~:text=The%20Trail%20of%20Blood%20is,succession%20from%20the%20first%20Christians.  Attached FileAmazing |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:18:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that speaking in tongues stuff would make me look elsewhere as well. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:22:08 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So Catholic church isn’t christian. You’ve been in GD too long. PROTESTANT your wife is a PROTESTANT But it makes sense why OP is so confused. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:24:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same for me. That's a hard stop Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, that speaking in tongues stuff would make me look elsewhere as well.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:26:37 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted: When I married my wife, she was very Christian. I, on the other hand was born Catholic, baptized at birth, went to Catholic school, but as I became an adult I didn't really go to church much at all. She got me to start going to church again with her, but I really don't like the style of the church that she goes to. But I go every week with her and our daughter. I am of the belief that as long as you love and believe in Jesus Christ, it doesn't matter what the denomination is, whether it be Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, Apostolic, etc I don't think any of them are wrong and they follow the same bible. It just depends on what style you like your church to be. She likes the Apostolic church with the preacher. It's very loud, a lot of yelling, speaking in tongues etc. I just don't like that. I like a calmer and more traditional church experience like the Catholic church offers. In fact, my wife was out of town today visiting family out of state and she told me to go to church. I did. But I went to Catholic church for the first time today in probably a decade. And I really enjoyed it. Is there any way you think we could solve this? I don't think her mind is going to change and mine isn't going to either. And no, we aren't going to get divorced over it. But it's kind of a weird situation. Both of you could go to RCIA and learn about the Catholic Church, then debate it pragmatically between yourselves. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:28:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Since the time that normal people were allowed to read the bible, old way of things went out the window. Your wife should be converting you.
 sola scriptura (Scripture alone) solus Christus (Christ alone) sola fide (faith alone) sola gratia (grace alone) soli Deo gloria (glory to God alone). |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:29:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Since the time that normal people were allowed to read the bible, old way of things went out the window (5 solas). Your wife should be converting you. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:30:09 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We need to end this infighting amongst the Christian Faiths. We are nearing the end of Western Civilization. Religion is declining at a rapid rate. This is supposed to be funny, but at the rate we are going it may be true https://i.imgur.com/Hf3LQ6Yl.jpg You think there's a Jewish conspiracy to destroy western civilization? |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:30:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Since the time that normal people were allowed to read the bible, old way of things went out the window (5 solas). Your wife should be converting you. Vatican II was terrible...latin is dey wey |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:30:51 PM EDT
[#28]
Catholics are Christian
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:31:26 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think there's a Jewish conspiracy to destroy western civilization? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We need to end this infighting amongst the Christian Faiths. We are nearing the end of Western Civilization. Religion is declining at a rapid rate. This is supposed to be funny, but at the rate we are going it may be true https://i.imgur.com/Hf3LQ6Yl.jpg You think there's a Jewish conspiracy to destroy western civilization? The jews don't want to destroy westen civ, they need it, they need to suck on it's teet until it is raw and chapped. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:31:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Catholics are Christian Catholics are the only Christians. Everyone else is just playin make beleive |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:32:28 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Since the time that normal people were allowed to read the bible, old way of things went out the window (5 solas). Your wife should be converting you. The Catholic Church did NOT want the common man to read the bible. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:33:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Catholics are Christian Being Catholic does Not make someone a Christian |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:35:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being Catholic does Not make someone a Christian Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Catholics are Christian Being Catholic does Not make someone a Christian My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, 'If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.'. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- 'Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 28, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your post gave me cancer anyway. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:36:14 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Catholic Church is the only church ever authorized by Christ and is meant to be the only church. LOL Are you a pharisee or saducee? its hard to tell but by your comment, biblically you fit into one of those categories |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:40:05 PM EDT
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There’s a lot of differences between a charismatic denomination, probably Pentecostal, and Catholics. I would research and find out where y’all stand and how that fits Biblically. If you believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and that he has saved you by grace through faith alone, then you’re good to go and can go to a church you feel comfortable. I would recommend an evangelical denomination, Baptist, Presbyterian, non denominational etc. where they’re not as fantastical as Pentecostals (many also hold heretical beliefs too).
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:41:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Catholocism > christianity.. Another LOL..........elevating a denomination over Christ. What is wrong with you guys? |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:41:51 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We solved a similar issue by not going and saying our kids can decide when they're older. Kharn So you deprive them of any religious experience and expect them to decide when they are older? They have a much better shot at being communists than Christians. Good luck though. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:42:51 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it helps, tell her Jesus said Peter would be the rock, i.e., the catholic church. We just have Protestantism because kings were greedy and didn't know it was their fault when they couldn't produce a male heir. Another Pharisee? You guys sound just like them Read your bible and see how the pharisees talked and how Jesus loved them by sharing the truth. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:43:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Regarding Christianity, The Roman Catholic Church is the one true religion. All the rest came to be after. Therefore not the true religion. The rest came after the Catholics could no longer prevent ordinary people from being able to read the bible. And figured out they were bullshit. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:45:39 PM EDT
[#40]
There are 10000 religions in the world. At best only one of them can be right. At that point odds say that that one isn't right either.
What's the difference in any of them is in the details. None of which make any difference because they are all wrong. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:45:40 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Catholics are the only Christians. Everyone else is just playin make beleive 100% pharisee post |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:45:44 PM EDT
[#42]
The ignorance is enormous in this thread
Have fun, y’all |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:46:02 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The rest came after the Catholics could no longer prevent ordinary people from being able to read the bible. And figured out they were bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Regarding Christianity, The Roman Catholic Church is the one true religion. All the rest came to be after. Therefore not the true religion. The rest came after the Catholics could no longer prevent ordinary people from being able to read the bible. And figured out they were bullshit. lol...you may want to do some research there my brother. I mean...last I checked the protestant religion came to be because some king was pissed the pope wouldn't annul his marriage |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:46:56 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 100% pharisee post Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Catholics are the only Christians. Everyone else is just playin make beleive 100% pharisee post well known legal experts |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:55:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Regarding Christianity, The Roman Catholic Church is the one true religion. All the rest came to be after. Therefore not the true religion. Catholics left Jesus when they accepted the Athanasian creed. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:56:17 PM EDT
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Oi. Lots to unpack here, but I’m on my phone and don’t have time to write a dissertation on it.
1) The early Church was simply community. It was people with the same theological framework living and communing with each other as they sought the face of God and worshipped Him. I imagine there was some structure to it (there even sects as early as the Church existed), but it’s important not to forget its primary role. Without a community of faith, the individual cannot grow. Hell, most directives found in scripture deal with how were to live in community with one another. 2) Denominations are mostly unimportant as long as the basics of scripture are maintained. Unfortunately, wholeness—which is really antithetical to the core tenets of Scripture—has infected many denominations, so you do have to do your research. So at the end of the day, if you’re at a church that both adheres to the core tenets of the scriptures and has a community that you think you can engage in (read: has people you like and have things in common with), that’s probs where you want to be. I was raised in the Southern Baptist church, studied theology in college, and have experienced many, many different churches (at one point it was part of my job), and have become much less particular about, well, the particulars that a lot of people get hung up on. I have reservations about the Catholic Church in general, but I think if you find a good local one it’s probably fine. I suspect there’s about as much it gets wrong/right as most of the Protestant denominations. That said, as the spiritual head of the household, the duty to find the proper community of faith for your family ultimately rests with you, but if your wife is dead set against your choice, yeah, you’ll need to figure that out I guess. It’s a bit tricky. |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:56:22 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The ignorance is enormous in this thread Have fun, y’all What church do you come from that teaches you to judge others and their faith as much as you have in this thread? |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:56:47 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Catholics left Jesus when they accepted the Athanasian creed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Regarding Christianity, The Roman Catholic Church is the one true religion. All the rest came to be after. Therefore not the true religion. Catholics left Jesus when they accepted the Athanasian creed. you must accept him |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 11:58:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:00:37 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I go to a plain ol’ Bible based Christian church. I’ve never found any sense getting into the weeds of denominational nonsense. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. When it comes down to it, that’s all that really matters.  Attached File |
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