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Link Posted: 11/25/2018 6:20:28 PM EDT
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My wifes car is a 11 cruze with a 1.4 turbo. So far from the dealership, 2 new turbos, new turbo oil feed line and a bunch of other parts. All while under warranty.

Now it has 120k and so far its has had

New starter (expected)
New battery (expected)
New intake manifold after the plastic nipples cracked
New evaporator after some codes thrown
Head skimmed after broken return line (this return line has been replaced 4 times. Once by dealer and 3 times by me.they just seem to rot away at the plug
Turbo return line broke, new head gasket again and new head
New water pump
New thermostat
New water inlet housing
New front main seal since it was opened up
All new rubber
New coolant reservoir
New ignition
New plugs
2 sets of new head bolts
2 new main crakshaft pully bolt
New turbo oil feed pipe

Now for the second head job. Get it back together, after a few beers. Forget that the oil plug isnt tight. And have a broken turbo oil feed pipe and all my oil pissed out, then the return hose after the thermostat pops off and coolant everywhere and its starting to get up there in temp. 240* and i shut it off. Refill the coolant and bleed it, new oil.

Starts right up. No over heat. Drive a few miles at 25mph no issues.

Get back and see check engine light on, look up codes. P0016 and P0017.

I am hoping that they are due to no oil but am afraid my chain jumped a tooth. The car runs fine and starts fine.

This car was supposed to go to my oldest but am afraid to let her drive it while she is away at school. I dont want her to get stuck.
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Link Posted: 11/25/2018 6:20:34 PM EDT
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2003 Jetta - had a crank position sensor go at 125k miles. Fixed it myself in a few hours. Sold it and its still driving

2013 Jetta - 60k miles and nothing but gas and oil changes

2007 4runner 4WD 150k miles replaced an alternator. A dash light just went out.

2007 Ford Focus 30k miles rattled, burned oil, hard started with a new battery and plugs. Had to replace the fuel filter, radiator hose cracked. I sold it at a loss a year later.

I consider myself pretty lucky with vehicles. Wife was considering a 13 Cruz when we bought the Jetta lol
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 6:49:22 PM EDT
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My mom has, and insists on keeping, a 2006 Cobalt, which is a giant pile of shit. Its at about 100k, and sounds like a vw microbus full of feral cats and empty beer cans.

Its easily into $1500 a year in repairs.  My dad and I refuse to work on it, and make her take it to a good local mechanic.  Said local mechanic bought a huge, pricey, boat and is running a Lake Erie walleye charter business on the side.

I'm absolutely certain that damn cobalt bought his boat.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 8:31:04 PM EDT
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yes, some stop and go traffic and interstate driving 70 +M.P.H. I did the same on all my test drives except the last one, I hammered the shit out of that car, using the manual shift option even driving it slow.. driving stlye or condition didn't matter the temp never really varied that much. I was using my Bluetooth reader with the Torque app to monitor temps and temp swings.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 9:38:15 PM EDT
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My 09 Forester has 160k on it and I think the driveshaft carrier bearing is bad. Been trying to diagnose a funky noise and arrived at that. Also, the seat is uncomfortable. Kinda pissed the bearing isn't replaceable. I think Subaru is starting to go downhill too with their bitch as commercials and no longer offering turbos
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 9:43:54 PM EDT
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Don't forget Ford Escort

Link Posted: 11/25/2018 9:50:11 PM EDT
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Op you must not be old enough to remember the yugo
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 10:58:34 PM EDT
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Reliable and awd means that the OP wants a CRV.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 11:07:01 PM EDT
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I had a Plymouth Horizon in the 80s.  I have looked into the heart of torment.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 1:22:58 AM EDT
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Dodge Omni 024
Charger L

Ate motor mounts, carburator issues, vacuum leaks.  For a glorious 84hp.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 1:24:08 AM EDT
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From what I’ve heard, they are great cars

Great gas mileage
Safe
Not any crazy repairs so far

You got a bad egg OP
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 1:47:32 AM EDT
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I guess you are not familiar with every other small car GM has produced in the last 40 years; they are all shit. They keep changing the names so that new generations don't remember the old models by name.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 1:49:46 AM EDT
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Anyone from back in the day remember that guy who assembled Chevy Cruze vehicles at the plant somewhere and was constantly here in GD posting about how the Cruze was going to single handedly save GM in the car market.

There was a period where that dude would not shut up about how great the cruze was going be and how it would replace Toyota in dependability. The rest of us just kept saying "dude, it's a low end Chevy... It's more likely to be a POS than anything else, please stop."

Maybe we can find that guy and you can discuss your customer experience with him?
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I member, but don't remember that poster's name.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 1:55:38 AM EDT
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Does no one remember the AMC Gremlin?
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I'll see your Gremlin and raise you an AMC Pacer



Not just unreliable, it was also the ugliest car ever built. In a sense, all of the malaise of the 1970s is exemplified in that vehicle, as though the body was built on a frame of despair.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 1:58:35 AM EDT
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2009 Toyota Venza, 164K miles-

1 battery
1 water pump
1 traction sensor
2 sets of tires
1 set of rear struts because I was hit in the rear and it tweaked them.

Mine is AWD but they stopped making them.  Maybe you can find one slightly used or find a Lexus RX 350.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 2:15:03 AM EDT
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I had one as a rental one time
...

Would not buy
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 2:17:52 AM EDT
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Dad had a 2001 Silverado that he was putting a quart of oil in every couple thousand miles. When I learned this, I asked him why it was burning so much oil.  He says, "Well, it has 100,000 miles on it, son, it's gonna burn oil."

At the time I was driving a 1998 Toyota T100 with about 250,000 on the odometer.  Drove it for 15 years and had to replace a couple of coil packs, the ignition switch, and a new radiator after road debris cracked it.  Best vehicle I've ever owned.

His Silverado was three years newer and the interior looked 10 years older, between the rapid deterioration of the shit-tier materials and dated-as-fuck styling.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 2:22:58 AM EDT
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Anyone from back in the day remember that guy who assembled Chevy Cruze vehicles at the plant somewhere and was constantly here in GD posting about how the Cruze was going to single handedly save GM in the car market.

There was a period where that dude would not shut up about how great the cruze was going be and how it would replace Toyota in dependability. The rest of us just kept saying "dude, it's a low end Chevy... It's more likely to be a POS than anything else, please stop."

Maybe we can find that guy and you can discuss your customer experience with him?
I member, but don't remember that poster's name.
Wasn't it something like shoprat?
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 2:59:26 AM EDT
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Dad had a 2001 Silverado that he was putting a quart of oil in every couple thousand miles. When I learned this, I asked him why it was burning so much oil.  He says, "Well, it has 100,000 miles on it, son, it's gonna burn oil."

At the time I was driving a 1998 Toyota T100 with about 250,000 on the odometer.  Drove it for 15 years and had to replace a couple of coil packs, the ignition switch, and a new radiator after road debris cracked it.  Best vehicle I've ever owned.

His Silverado was three years newer and the interior looked 10 years older, between the rapid deterioration of the shit-tier materials and dated-as-fuck styling.
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You never put a timing belt/chain in it?
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 3:02:57 AM EDT
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The Cruz is the "New Vega"...

And that is a real Bitch Slapping!
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 3:40:12 AM EDT
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Anyone from back in the day remember that guy who assembled Chevy Cruze vehicles at the plant somewhere and was constantly here in GD posting about how the Cruze was going to single handedly save GM in the car market.

There was a period where that dude would not shut up about how great the cruze was going be and how it would replace Toyota in dependability. The rest of us just kept saying "dude, it's a low end Chevy... It's more likely to be a POS than anything else, please stop."

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I thought the Cruze was made in China? I thought it was a GM import, like the Metro used to be?
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 8:22:15 AM EDT
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@CSAkuklos

Do i have to take it all apart again to adjust timing? Or can i do it from the top of the head with just taking off the valve cover?

Oh and that valve cover was replaced due to some vacuum valve or something that is built into the cover.
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P0016, P0017 after head work means you got it out of time.

And Cruzes are really bad. I love them, they are easy to work on and they are always broke. But I work in a Chevy dealership.
@CSAkuklos

Do i have to take it all apart again to adjust timing? Or can i do it from the top of the head with just taking off the valve cover?

Oh and that valve cover was replaced due to some vacuum valve or something that is built into the cover.
Sorry, just saw this.

You'll have to take off the valve cover, the air filter housing,  the cam actuators of the front cover and the hex plug in front of the chain tensioner.

It'll be hard to get in time with out the special tools, as the cams and the reluctor wheels have to be timed. There are no pins or key ways. Everything must be held and tightened.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 8:24:07 AM EDT
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No shit.  I had a '73.

We have been quite satisfied with our '12 Cruze which we bought new in January of that year.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 8:30:04 AM EDT
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Anyone from back in the day remember that guy who assembled Chevy Cruze vehicles at the plant somewhere and was constantly here in GD posting about how the Cruze was going to single handedly save GM in the car market.

There was a period where that dude would not shut up about how great the cruze was going be and how it would replace Toyota in dependability. The rest of us just kept saying "dude, it's a low end Chevy... It's more likely to be a POS than anything else, please stop."

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Yeah i remember it was some pro union asshole. Cant recall name
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 8:32:57 AM EDT
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My son had a Cruze, forget the year. It was a great car. His buddy liked it so much, he bought a near identical one.

Driving home from work in his Cruze one night, at the posted 60mph speed limit, a small buck ran into the road and he hit it. Totaled the car, deer was DRT, but my son was uninjured. The impact destroyed the front end. A state trooper happened to be coming from the opposite direction and witnessed the whole thing. Shook my son up enough that he now drives a truck. No more small cars for him...
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 10:26:48 AM EDT
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My dad had a Vega and a Plymouth horizon.


Poor guy
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 11:14:45 AM EDT
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I had it replaced a couple times, around 110k and 230k, but that's normal maintenance in my book, along with batteries, shocks, brake pads, rotors, etc.  It's a non-interference engine so I didn't stress about it too much.

The only time it left me stranded was when the ignition lock froze up and wouldn't move.   That was a pain in the ass; I think it's the only time in the past 20 years I've had to call a tow truck.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 12:15:22 PM EDT
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Should have gotten the 2.0, or 2.4, or 2.5 ecotec. Those motors run.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 12:29:20 PM EDT
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My first car was a ‘73 Vega.  There are books written on that piece of shit.  “Buy American!”

I traded it in on a Plymouth Horizon K-car.  “Buy American” they said.   It died every so often and one of the rear windows fell inside the door before it had 500 miles on it.

I traded that in on a VW air-cooled micro bus.  Oh, what a fuckmobile.  Nothing was engineered for driving in Merica.

I traded that in on a Plymouth Grand Voyago with the self-destructing, solenoid-shift transaxle.  Nonetheless, I did put nearly 300k on it.

I traded that in for a 6 pack of beer.

I then won a ‘99 Miata in a sales contest and drove it for 217k miles until just too many wear items began to wear out.

Replaced it with a used 2000 Chrysler Sebring....a hand-me-down from Mrs Rabinowitz since she bought the ‘12 Cruze.

I gave a Sebring away (it always ran fine) to a kid who desperately needed a car for work.

I got the Cruze when she bought an ‘18 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T Ultimate.  She loves it.

I am more than satisfied with the Cruze.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 1:20:12 PM EDT
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Yet another fine General Motors product from the division that let you know "We build excitement!"..... such as whether your car was going to catch on fire.
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Pontiac Fiero was the worst car I’ve ever had.  
Rear engine with the radiator up front, horrible design.
Should have had a secondary cooling system.

And try that car in the snow.

Also, friggin engine was impossible to work on.
Yet another fine General Motors product from the division that let you know "We build excitement!"..... such as whether your car was going to catch on fire.
Yup. Here is my son’s 2003 Gem.

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Link Posted: 11/26/2018 3:59:21 PM EDT
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I had it replaced a couple times, around 110k and 230k, but that's normal maintenance in my book, along with batteries, shocks, brake pads, rotors, etc.  It's a non-interference engine so I didn't stress about it too much.

The only time it left me stranded was when the ignition lock froze up and wouldn't move.   That was a pain in the ass; I think it's the only time in the past 20 years I've had to call a tow truck.
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You never put a timing belt/chain in it?
I had it replaced a couple times, around 110k and 230k, but that's normal maintenance in my book, along with batteries, shocks, brake pads, rotors, etc.  It's a non-interference engine so I didn't stress about it too much.

The only time it left me stranded was when the ignition lock froze up and wouldn't move.   That was a pain in the ass; I think it's the only time in the past 20 years I've had to call a tow truck.
My 4Runner does that. It seems like it's sensitive to how the key goes in the ignition.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 4:17:49 PM EDT
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I guess I'm in for trouble soon. I have a 2014 Cruze LTZ with 64k on it.  Only issue was a bad battery cable that was covered under warranty.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 4:31:59 PM EDT
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My mom had a mid 90's Chrysler caravan.

It was the single largest pile of shit ever made.  the transmission was replaced 3 times for leaking, the windows never sealed, wind noise like mad, the sliding door rattled so fucking bad we went on a trip to CA as kids and me and my brothers would take turns laying on the middle seat pushing on the door with our feet to stop the rattling, the radio would change stations at random, and when it did this you couldn't change stations or shut it off just raise and lower the volume.. CEL's they couldn't fix anywhere. it was non stop. she only had it 3 years before the transmission went out again, no more warranty left I remember the sales man at the dealer trying to show my parents the new intrepid or some shit, my pops looked at him and said "I wouldn't take another pile of fucking shit chrysler for free"

she bought a passat and had 140k on it when she traded it in for an A4... which got hit and was totaled at 110k.. replaced with another A4 she put 100k on before wanting something bigger and buying an Atlas.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 5:43:41 PM EDT
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Looks like GM agrees with you OP.

The Cruze is getting the axe.  Done.  Discontinued.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 6:12:22 PM EDT
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The Vega was a lot better, you could put a V8 in them while the body was still good. I built a lot of V8 Vegas in the 70's
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 6:13:48 PM EDT
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Looks like GM agrees with you OP.

The Cruze is getting the axe.  Done.  Discontinued.
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Came here to post this.

It will be replaced by something even worse.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 6:25:45 PM EDT
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I have a 2015 Chevy Cruze with the diesel engine and its been great.  77k miles.
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Yea, I think it was shop_rat45
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 9:09:47 PM EDT
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she bought a passat and had 140k on it when she traded it in for an A4... which got hit and was totaled at 110k.. replaced with another A4 she put 100k on before wanting something bigger and buying an Atlas.
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Wow, she's had 4 VAG vehicles? Must know a good mechanic...
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 9:10:09 PM EDT
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Came here to post this.

It will be replaced by something even worse.
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Looks like GM agrees with you OP.

The Cruze is getting the axe.  Done.  Discontinued.
Came here to post this.

It will be replaced by something even worse.
Probably something that looks like a shoe.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 9:49:10 PM EDT
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Probably something that looks like a shoe.
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Looks like GM agrees with you OP.

The Cruze is getting the axe.  Done.  Discontinued.
Came here to post this.

It will be replaced by something even worse.
Probably something that looks like a shoe.
Link Posted: 11/26/2018 10:06:21 PM EDT
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Looks like GM agrees with you OP.

The Cruze is getting the axe.  Done.  Discontinued.
Came here to post this.

It will be replaced by something even worse.
Probably something that looks like a shoe.
http://quantumshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Rehabilitation-Car.jpg
Oh, that doesn't sound so bad.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 7:45:38 AM EDT
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she bought a passat and had 140k on it when she traded it in for an A4... which got hit and was totaled at 110k.. replaced with another A4 she put 100k on before wanting something bigger and buying an Atlas.
Wow, she's had 4 VAG vehicles? Must know a good mechanic...
With bottomless pockets.

Domestics may suck, but nothing holds a candle to vag cars.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 7:49:35 AM EDT
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OP has never driven a PT Cruiser.

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These young'uns.
Link Posted: 11/27/2018 9:14:55 AM EDT
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After driving a Cruze and Hyundai Veloster rentals, I'd say it's a toss up.
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My step sister had a wood panel with purple paint PT Cruiser. It was given to her by a friends parents for a first car. Pretty ragged out at that point too. All I could think about when I first saw it was that someone paid good money for that when new.
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She bought the first A4 the year I graduated from tech school,  all I ever did to the second A4 was services, a valve cover gasket and upper control arm bushings.

The first passat did go through a few sets of upper control arm ball joints, and she killed the steering rack after taking it to a quick lube place and they flushed the ps system and refilled with atf and not mineral oil based. The first A4 also needed upper control arms (same as passat they hated washboard roads) but I had just did the timing belt when some jack ass blew the light at mountain and sb frontage.
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These young'uns.
And then there was the Vega's ill-fated descendant, the Monza.  It wasn't as big a turd as the Vega's rolling collection of poor design choices, but it was still a turd.

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