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Link Posted: 9/1/2022 7:16:44 PM EDT
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The only thing Colt made that isn't already manufactured to a higher standard by someone else at a lower price:

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LE901, and their 7.62x39 variant that those retards never offered here in the states. That would’ve been massively popular, seeing as the rifle’s built around 308, and downsized to 7.62x39.

May fuck be upon LMT for their BS suit against Colt that resulted in the MARC crap. I remember the 901 going for something like $1400-$1600 years ago, now they’re over $3000 when you can find them.

Although, KAC did make a better 7.62 AR that took AK mags, not sure about the bolt life, but it had a nifty AR mag release button. Supposedly, they made less than a dozen of them, one left in the Knights vault, the others in a US Navy armory somewhere. Been a long time since I looked it up.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 7:21:15 PM EDT
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So a bunch of proprietary parts on what's supposed to be a modular rifle.

Way to go, Colt.

Innovation isn't really their strong suit.
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So you want innovation without proprietary parts?  That's kind of hard to do.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 7:23:45 PM EDT
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LE901, and their 7.62x39 variant that those retards never offered here in the states. That would’ve been massively popular, seeing as the rifle’s built around 308, and downsized to 7.62x39.

May fuck be upon LMT for their BS suit against Colt that resulted in the MARC crap. I remember the 901 going for something like $1400-$1600 years ago, now they’re over $3000 when you can find them.

Although, KAC did make a better 7.62 AR that took AK mags, not sure about the bolt life, but it had a nifty AR mag release button. Supposedly, they made less than a dozen of them, one left in the Knights vault, the others in a US Navy armory somewhere. Been a long time since I looked it up.
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I'm not familiar with the LMT suit but I'd read Colt Canada was paying them for the C-20, another gem we won't see down here.

Link Posted: 9/1/2022 7:31:44 PM EDT
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Colt fanboys:
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 7:32:27 PM EDT
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LE901, and their 7.62x39 variant that those retards never offered here in the states. That would’ve been massively popular, seeing as the rifle’s built around 308, and downsized to 7.62x39.

May fuck be upon LMT for their BS suit against Colt that resulted in the MARC crap. I remember the 901 going for something like $1400-$1600 years ago, now they’re over $3000 when you can find them.

Although, KAC did make a better 7.62 AR that took AK mags, not sure about the bolt life, but it had a nifty AR mag release button. Supposedly, they made less than a dozen of them, one left in the Knights vault, the others in a US Navy armory somewhere. Been a long time since I looked it up.
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I was wondering what happened to the LE901.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 7:39:07 PM EDT
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So the main "upgrade" is the ambi lower?
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I would rather get another LWRC DI.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 9:07:09 PM EDT
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For the money,

LMT
LWRC
GEISSELE
SIG

Any of the above and several I haven’t thought about would be purchased ‘by me’.

So what’s the big deal. I’m a ‘fanboy’ and moderate collector.

I previously purchased (cheap) Colts if I thought there would be future collector value.
Basically safe queens that mean allot to a safe Queen kinda guy.

When people ask about what they should by I have a standard mantra.

If going to war DD.
If want a new sports car gun GE or LWRC if piston fan.
If want best quality per dollar LMT.
If want good all purpose AR SIG.

If you want a safe Queen buy a Colt pre2018.

I see zero reason to purchase a new Colt in 2022.

Edit 9/17/22. I was wrong. The new M5 with all the features can run with any ‘race car gun’.
Wouldn’t ‘go to war’ with it yet as it’s un-proven but little danger of that for this fudd anyway.

I suppose I’m now a piss poor anboy but it is what it is.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 9:13:50 PM EDT
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The M5, its one better than the M4.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 9:16:19 PM EDT
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The M5, its one better than the M4.
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Fair I like their upgrades.

My question is, are there better $2k platforms out there?
Edit 9-17-22. Prices are running around $1750ish.


and I caught the word salad. Touché
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 9:17:08 PM EDT
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I love colts but I like clones of what I had in the army. I’m glad CZ is pushing colt into making new stuff though.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 9:25:46 PM EDT
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Fair I like their upgrades.

My question is, are there better $2k platforms out there?


and I caught the word salad. Touché
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The M5, its one better than the M4.


Fair I like their upgrades.

My question is, are there better $2k platforms out there?


and I caught the word salad. Touché

Channeling Spinal Tap
Spinal Tap - "These go to eleven...."
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 9:28:05 PM EDT
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That rail system looks like some cheap garbage PSA would sell. Come on Colt. You’re better than that.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 10:50:01 PM EDT
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That's a lot of money for a Colt, there's better options for that kind of money.
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+1, happy to see them playing in that end of the pool, but I’m buying another XCR-L for that kind of money.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 10:58:16 PM EDT
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That rail system looks like some cheap garbage PSA would sell. Come on Colt. You’re better than that.
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Uh no. The barrel nut, the bolt-up, and the anti-rotate are badass.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:04:13 PM EDT
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That’s SR15 Mod 2 money.



ETA: Nevermind apparently not anymore. Lol I should sell a couple SR15’s
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Yea, $2k wont even get you a new KAC upper these days smh
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:08:04 PM EDT
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Yeah, it’s a fine rail. I’ve got one on my CM762 and love it.
Ease of dropping rail without fiddling with barrel but or retainers.
There’s an adapter to anything Mlok and plenty of quality Mlok direct fits.

It also ensures a 100% free float. I vote that Colt selected well on that.
Actually the ‘only’ criticism I have is the big boy pricing. Colt just isn’t one of the big boys anymore.
Same product, same quality. Moderate upgrades but it’s still not a big boy tier1 operator race gun.

$1200 is my value point for the M5.
That’s okay, I enjoy the Colts I already have.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:21:18 PM EDT
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I need to get some more 6940s...
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:25:09 PM EDT
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Uh no. The barrel nut, the bolt-up, and the anti-rotate are badass.
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It’s a friction/pinch fit that doesn’t even interface/lock into the barrel nut. No thanks. I’m sure it works, but aside from the upper key it’s no different than any of the $100 rails on the market.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:25:09 PM EDT
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Fuck that.
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:33:18 PM EDT
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LMFAO at that price

Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:52:45 PM EDT
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It is a Centurion rail.  Are you saying Centurion is “cheap garbage” because that would be a first lol
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:54:40 PM EDT
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That price... I though April fools was April 1st, not September...
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It says carbine gas system lol
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:54:56 PM EDT
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Dbl tap
Link Posted: 9/1/2022 11:55:40 PM EDT
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Not for $2000 LOL
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 12:00:46 AM EDT
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Oooh. $49 off.

Somebody pinch me.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 12:23:56 AM EDT
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It's a friction/pinch fit that doesn't even interface/lock into the barrel nut. No thanks. I'm sure it works, but aside from the upper key it's no different than any of the $100 rails on the market.
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it locks into the receiver extension
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:20:45 AM EDT
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It is a Centurion rail.  Are you saying Centurion is “cheap garbage” because that would be a first lol
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This is not the model that uses the Centurion rail. That’s the “Trooper” model.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:21:59 AM EDT
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it locks into the receiver extension
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Nope. It has a key into the upper receiver and uses pinch friction on the barrel nut. The receiver extension is where the shoulder thing that goes up resides.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 9:53:31 AM EDT
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Nope. It has a key into the upper receiver and uses pinch friction on the barrel nut. The receiver extension is where the shoulder thing that goes up resides.
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Ok, the forwardly EXTENDED part of the RECEIVER that is like a trunnion, has a tab or fin that has two semicircular cutouts that the two screws that "pinch" the handguard together also keep it from rotation and secure it to the EXTENDED UPPER RECEIVER

Thanks to @texassggie2005 for the pic

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those two cutouts are where the rail attachment screws mechanically lock the rail to the extended upper receiver
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 10:13:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/2/2022 10:24:57 AM EDT
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Isn’t the rail, a like Geiselle Sooper Doodie?
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 12:56:39 PM EDT
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Thanks everyone. I had zero idea the receiver was different other than the ambi cutouts.
Fella would have to try pretty hard to NOT LEARN something around here.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 12:58:56 PM EDT
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Carbine length gas system hard pass.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 1:06:24 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/467962/4B36EDDE-6164-4177-907F-C22158FF832C_jpe-2511916.JPG
Thanks everyone. I had zero idea the receiver was different other than the ambi cutouts.
Fella would have to try pretty hard to NOT LEARN something around here.
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Thanks everyone. I had zero idea the receiver was different other than the ambi cutouts.
Fella would have to try pretty hard to NOT LEARN something around here.

Now I'm a bit confused on how the barrel is retained.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 1:14:11 PM EDT
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Isn’t the rail, a like Geiselle Sooper Doodie?
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Yes and I read somewhere that Geiselle was involved with the rail on this rifle but I can’t say for sure.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 1:30:13 PM EDT
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Now I'm a bit confused on how the barrel is retained.
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I believe the barrel nut threads are inside of the extended portion of the receiver.


Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:01:53 PM EDT
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I believe the barrel nut threads are inside of the extended portion of the receiver.

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It reminds me of an Aero M4E1 on a diet

Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:15:07 PM EDT
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It appears they used the same ‘style’ upper as they were using on their CMR big bores.
Here’s a pic of a couple of my uppers but unfortunately I didn’t capture the barrel threads.
I snapped it for someone who was curious about the gas block differences.

Question. Is this the Canada version of the .556 we’ve all been waiting for?
Everything I find in the current Colt Canada catalog has a 1 piece integrated rail/reciever.

The only similarity I can find are the CMR series.


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Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:21:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:25:05 PM EDT
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Think I'll keep my SOLGW.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:29:41 PM EDT
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Very short video, reference 50 second in.



I rang the help bell in the Colt forum. Some pros should be along to help answer the barrel to receiver engagement.

@Minuteman1636
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:45:09 PM EDT
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It appears they used the same 'style' upper as they were using on their CMR big bores.
Here's a pic of a couple of my uppers but unfortunately I didn't capture the barrel threads.
I snapped it for someone who was curious about the gas block differences.

Question. Is this the Canada version of the .556 we've all been waiting for?

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Cool.  I saw that mentioned in an article, but had never seen pics like yours to compare.

I thought the Canada L119 was monolithic but could be wrong.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 2:47:59 PM EDT
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Holy fuckin' derp up in here ...
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 3:03:05 PM EDT
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So ground breaking … not …
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 3:03:42 PM EDT
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Go away, the adults are speaking.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 3:07:27 PM EDT
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Yeah, it kind of does.
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I built my M4E1 6.5G eight or nine years ago so I guess that's pretty good turn around time for Colt R&D.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 3:14:16 PM EDT
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I built my M4E1 6.5G eight or nine years ago so I guess that's pretty good turn around time for Colt R&D.
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Is the M4E1 one piece or is the extension screwed on somehow?  I've never seen one in person.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 3:58:30 PM EDT
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Essentially a 694X upper without the monolithic rail, with the rear portion where the rail would have started, machined into a rail attachment trunnion. Probably uses the 694X proprietary barrel extension and internal barrel nut.
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 3:58:48 PM EDT
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Holy fuckin' derp up in here ...


Go away, the adults are speaking.
Hahah - seriously ?   All the dumb shit getting posted in this thread and I'm the asshole ..
Link Posted: 9/2/2022 4:06:42 PM EDT
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I believe the barrel nut threads are inside of the extended portion of the receiver.

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So it uses a barrel bushing instead of a barrel nut?

Now I'm curious what type of socket you use to tighten it.
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