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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:35:25 PM EDT
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A girl could weed out the players and the subsequent broken heart/soiled reputation by insisting on courtship, an engagement ring, vetting by her father or father figure (if Dad's a shitbag), and a set wedding date before allowing any man past first base but that would mean losing her turn to get freaky with smooth talkin' Chad Thundercock and she isn't about to miss out on that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. 
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Posted: 7/31/2018 7:56:28 PM EDT
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She also frequently gets treated very poorly by peers and ‘dates’ along the way, as well as being accused of all manner of manipulative, evil intentions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Certain women will make themselves seem chaste to other women or groups of women I have seen major drama when a guy bangs the friend of a gf But that same group of women allow a man they want to be passed around among all the girls in a group |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 8:47:26 PM EDT
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A girl could weed out the players and the subsequent broken heart/soiled reputation by insisting on courtship, an engagement ring, vetting by her father or father figure (if Dad's a shitbag), and a set wedding date before allowing any man past first base but that would mean losing her turn to get freaky with smooth talkin' Chad Thundercock and she isn't about to miss out on that opportunity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Just like guys, they should be taught what's healthy and its not |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 8:49:55 PM EDT
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Certain groups of women will look out for each other no matter how vile or evil she acts. As long as it’s kept away and out of sight of boyfriends or prospective boyfriends. A gf who is cheating on a bf will not be ratted out by her best friends Certain women will make themselves seem chaste to other women or groups of women I have seen major drama when a guy bangs the friend of a gf But that same group of women allow a man they want to be passed around among all the girls in a group Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Certain women will make themselves seem chaste to other women or groups of women I have seen major drama when a guy bangs the friend of a gf But that same group of women allow a man they want to be passed around among all the girls in a group The girl could be 100% in the wrong, but they'll back her cause its her right to do what she did to make her happy. Its counter productive. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 9:12:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Certain groups of women will look out for each other no matter how vile or evil she acts. As long as it’s kept away and out of sight of boyfriends or prospective boyfriends. A gf who is cheating on a bf will not be ratted out by her best friends Certain women will make themselves seem chaste to other women or groups of women I have seen major drama when a guy bangs the friend of a gf But that same group of women allow a man they want to be passed around among all the girls in a group Do NOT let a woman you've slept with set you up with one of her friends. A) it's probably a trap. And B) If it involves multiple women after you, eventually, one of them is going to want you for herself, and shit will go sideways. |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 9:24:34 PM EDT
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That last part's true; but no matter how beautiful these women are, it is NOT worth it, period. Do NOT let a woman you've slept with set you up with one of her friends. A) it's probably a trap. And B) If it involves multiple women after you, eventually, one of them is going to want you for herself, and shit will go sideways. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Certain groups of women will look out for each other no matter how vile or evil she acts. As long as it’s kept away and out of sight of boyfriends or prospective boyfriends. A gf who is cheating on a bf will not be ratted out by her best friends Certain women will make themselves seem chaste to other women or groups of women I have seen major drama when a guy bangs the friend of a gf But that same group of women allow a man they want to be passed around among all the girls in a group Do NOT let a woman you've slept with set you up with one of her friends. A) it's probably a trap. And B) If it involves multiple women after you, eventually, one of them is going to want you for herself, and shit will go sideways. When it’s the guy choosing the friend, it’s major drama When it’s the girl allowing the friend it’s OK |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 9:28:37 PM EDT
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Plenty of girls have healthy relationships with sex prior to marriage. Just like guys, they should be taught what's healthy and its not Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Just like guys, they should be taught what's healthy and its not |
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Posted: 7/31/2018 9:31:37 PM EDT
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Some of the ladies here seem to think women don’t enjoy sex. That’s sex is something that deceptive boys do to nice girls by tricking them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Just like guys, they should be taught what's healthy and its not |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 10:18:08 AM EDT
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Do they? To be honest, i haven't seen such a thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Just like guys, they should be taught what's healthy and its not |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 10:25:25 AM EDT
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Some of the ladies here seem to think women don’t enjoy sex. That’s sex is something that deceptive boys do to nice girls by tricking them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Just like guys, they should be taught what's healthy and its not |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 10:50:34 AM EDT
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 11:01:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of the ladies here seem to think women don’t enjoy sex. That’s sex is something that deceptive boys do to nice girls by tricking them. 
I enjoy swimming. But I don't want someone to bring me to a lake filled with alligators and tell me the water is great here. Fully consensual and both on the same page about what it means is absolutely fine. But don't act like some men using deceptive measures to get someone into bed and then running like hell because he only saw her as a cum dumpster isn't a thing. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 12:41:00 PM EDT
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Oh, women enjoy sex quite a lot. Much more than a lot of men seem to believe. Some factors are anecdotal. My ex has no libido. None at all. No matter how much I focused on her experience. I'm having to overcome the impressions that resulted. Some factors are documented. HSDD is consistently documented in notably higher rates among women than men. More conditions need to align for women to get in the mood than for men. Sure, a particular woman can get potentially very turned on. Maybe even more than her man, but when it involves jumping through a bunch of extra hoops for hours or days ahead of time it can become ridiculous. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 12:57:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of the ladies here seem to think women don’t enjoy sex. That’s sex is something that deceptive boys do to nice girls by tricking them. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 1:12:30 PM EDT
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It's a combination of factors. Some factors are anecdotal. My ex has no libido. None at all. No matter how much I focused on her experience. I'm having to overcome the impressions that resulted. Some factors are documented. HSDD is consistently documented in notably higher rates among women than men. More conditions need to align for women to get in the mood than for men. Sure, a particular woman can get potentially very turned on. Maybe even more than her man, but when it involves jumping through a bunch of extra hoops for hours or days ahead of time it can become ridiculous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh, women enjoy sex quite a lot. Much more than a lot of men seem to believe. Some factors are anecdotal. My ex has no libido. None at all. No matter how much I focused on her experience. I'm having to overcome the impressions that resulted. Some factors are documented. HSDD is consistently documented in notably higher rates among women than men. More conditions need to align for women to get in the mood than for men. Sure, a particular woman can get potentially very turned on. Maybe even more than her man, but when it involves jumping through a bunch of extra hoops for hours or days ahead of time it can become ridiculous. When you live through that it’s horrible |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 3:44:43 PM EDT
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While this song has very "G" rated, family friendly lyrics, the lyrics provide a real warning to women aout hypergamy, riding the c@ck carousel, and "hitting the wall" from circa 1970.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 4:26:20 PM EDT
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Took me back in time
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Posted: 8/1/2018 5:17:52 PM EDT
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Yet you're playing games right here. It's clear from context that I mean "picky" in the sense of being selective, not being picky in the sense of silly requirements to make things more complicated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 5:29:05 PM EDT
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? killswitch has a point there. Men were actually more generous than women in rating attractiveness of the opposite sex. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 5:32:39 PM EDT
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killswitch has a point there. Men were actually more generous than women in rating attractiveness of the opposite sex. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:16:15 PM EDT
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:40:22 PM EDT
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 9:38:37 AM EDT
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What makes you think that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/2/2018 9:51:54 AM EDT
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killswitch has a point there. Men were actually more generous than women in rating attractiveness of the opposite sex. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 10:00:39 AM EDT
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And women tend to be more generous in tolerating a partner being overweight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 10:21:02 AM EDT
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In the context in which she was speaking, no man is "needed". As in, no specific woman absolutely needs a man to wife her up. Spinsters can do just fine on their own in terms of making ends meet, feeding themselves, and surviving day to day existence. A relationship is lovely, but a spouse isn't necessary for survival. That was previously only something men could decide whether they wanted in their lives, barring the good graces and financial security of a woman's family. And she was still considered a social oddity and pitied at best. I thought the contextual nature of her comment was fairly obvious, but perhaps I was mistaken. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/economic-policy/Documents/The%20Economic%20Security%20of%20American%20Households-The%20Economic%20Security%20of%20Older%20Women.pdf |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 10:33:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2018 10:59:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2018 12:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I took 2 days to think about his statement Not bizarre, he is on point Borderline is the perfect word here On the fence The question men ALWAYS ask Why can’t women say what they mean? Women will not state their true intentions Women have to continue with the facade If they told the truth it would hurt everybody with women being hurt the most 
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Posted: 8/2/2018 12:23:32 PM EDT
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Yeah, your support isn’t really helping his position. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/2/2018 12:33:38 PM EDT
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. 
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Posted: 8/2/2018 12:45:59 PM EDT
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This is interesting, yeah it does indeed look like women are more picky (now?). My first thought was self-selection too, maybe the most attractive guys just weren't on OKcupid. Nope. https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/7a/d7/787ad78e9bf062d9e35f733b24483009.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/7a/d7/787ad78e9bf062d9e35f733b24483009.jpg Guys would have to be billionaires, captains of industries, celebrities, Emirates princes to even get close to those numbers. These guys will sure be picky. Remember the rotation Tiger Woods had? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 1:14:54 PM EDT
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Imagine right now the amount of options women have, she can literally reach out to 10,000 guys in an instant Guys would have to be billionaires, captains of industries, celebrities, Emirates princes to even get close to those numbers. These guys will sure be picky. Remember the rotation Tiger Woods had? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/7a/d7/787ad78e9bf062d9e35f733b24483009.jpg Guys would have to be billionaires, captains of industries, celebrities, Emirates princes to even get close to those numbers. These guys will sure be picky. Remember the rotation Tiger Woods had? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 1:20:25 PM EDT
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/7a/d7/787ad78e9bf062d9e35f733b24483009.jpg Guys would have to be billionaires, captains of industries, celebrities, Emirates princes to even get close to those numbers. These guys will sure be picky. Remember the rotation Tiger Woods had? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 1:23:49 PM EDT
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King of Manlets! 
ETA: I hadn't lied about my height before meeting in person either. She knew I wasn't "tall".
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Posted: 8/2/2018 1:34:28 PM EDT
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Isn't that just mentality/nature though? Men approach women far more than women approach men? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/7a/d7/787ad78e9bf062d9e35f733b24483009.jpg Guys would have to be billionaires, captains of industries, celebrities, Emirates princes to even get close to those numbers. These guys will sure be picky. Remember the rotation Tiger Woods had? Its.. odd. |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 1:35:04 PM EDT
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/7a/d7/787ad78e9bf062d9e35f733b24483009.jpg Guys would have to be billionaires, captains of industries, celebrities, Emirates princes to even get close to those numbers. These guys will sure be picky. Remember the rotation Tiger Woods had? Have you ever had a 100% batting average when talking to women? Of course not . |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 1:35:26 PM EDT
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as ‘below average’. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don’t seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they’ve just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/7a/d7/787ad78e9bf062d9e35f733b24483009.jpg Guys would have to be billionaires, captains of industries, celebrities, Emirates princes to even get close to those numbers. These guys will sure be picky. Remember the rotation Tiger Woods had? Men can initiate contact but it’s the woman that starts the pursuit once the ball starts rolling With cellphones that pursuit is on steroids |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 1:40:42 PM EDT
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It was crystal clear in context. You just wanted an argument. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 1:59:19 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's lopsided and always has been, just how it is. Any reasonable attractive woman just needs to set up a profile with some pics and watch the inbox get bombed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/18/okcupid-inbox-attractive/ "Women, on the other hand, are harsh with their ratings. According to the study, they rate a whopping 80% of men on the site as 'below average'. My first guess was that there was an issue with self-selection here (i.e. unattractive men congregate on the site for whatever reason). But the study includes photos of four pretty normal looking guys who were all rated to be unattractive. And perhaps more telling: women don't seem to be opposed to actually contacting these men that they've just deemed unattractive." From another VooDoo3dfx post, there was a video of what women want video. The basics of facial attractiveness is that more women rate guys with chiseled looks as more attractive. So getting fatter lowers a guy's facial attractiveness... and we're becoming a nation of soft bodies. Take Chris Pratt for instance. Now I imagine most gals found him an attractive dude before, but now that he got himself in shape he's one of Hollywood's top stars and I'm sure women find more attractive. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/78/7a/d7/787ad78e9bf062d9e35f733b24483009.jpg Guys would have to be billionaires, captains of industries, celebrities, Emirates princes to even get close to those numbers. These guys will sure be picky. Remember the rotation Tiger Woods had? |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 2:00:22 PM EDT
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Well, the Treasury disagrees with your 'spinsters do fine' beliefs. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/economic-policy/Documents/The%20Economic%20Security%20of%20American%20Households-The%20Economic%20Security%20of%20Older%20Women.pdf Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In the context in which she was speaking, no man is "needed". As in, no specific woman absolutely needs a man to wife her up. Spinsters can do just fine on their own in terms of making ends meet, feeding themselves, and surviving day to day existence. A relationship is lovely, but a spouse isn't necessary for survival. That was previously only something men could decide whether they wanted in their lives, barring the good graces and financial security of a woman's family. And she was still considered a social oddity and pitied at best. I thought the contextual nature of her comment was fairly obvious, but perhaps I was mistaken. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/economic-policy/Documents/The%20Economic%20Security%20of%20American%20Households-The%20Economic%20Security%20of%20Older%20Women.pdf Nowhere did I state that spinsters will do fine in all cases across the board. I said they can do fine. As in, the opportunity is there, should they choose to make an effort. They are only limited by their personal drive and will to succeed, not a legal structure that bars them from decent employment opportunities, property ownership, or the ability to conduct legal and financial business in their own names. They don’t need a man to do those things for them or sign off that it’s ok. Whether they do or not is on them. |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 2:49:45 PM EDT
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Me you and him have different positions, thank god He does not need my help, I am not on either one of your sides here, not you, not him His use of the word borderline is perfect I say what I got to say Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/2/2018 2:58:05 PM EDT
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Just like guys, they should be taught what's healthy and its not |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 3:09:08 PM EDT
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killswitch has a point there. Men were actually more generous than women in rating attractiveness of the opposite sex. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? Different reactions to it are cultural; that it is, is biology. |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 3:13:27 PM EDT
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Premarital sex is all risk and no benefit to the female - or the male, for that matter. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't think it's a game. Being picky isn't a positive trait. Idk what else to tell you. That's probably a difference between men and women, men don't like to play games in relationships. We say what we mean and don't throw up unnecessary hoops to jump through. We've got bigger fish to fry than that. It seems most American women feel unless they are making things unnecessarily convoluted then they might be missing out on something. Not a good thing. Just like guys, they should be taught what's healthy and its not |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 3:16:34 PM EDT
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"Me you and him" He, I and you
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Posted: 8/2/2018 3:23:08 PM EDT
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If you don't mean picky why not just say selective? I've heard so many doozies on these threads I take everyone at what they say. Not hard to believe when a woman says she wants to be picky. Why would anyone have a hard time believing that? If anything I'd say that's standard now. OKcupid poll claims 80% of men are rated below average attractiveness. How is that not indicative of mass pickiness? Different reactions to it are cultural; that it is, is biology. |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 3:32:38 PM EDT
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Lord bless, y'all are some non-comprehending individuals. Nowhere did I state that spinsters will do fine in all cases across the board. I said they can do fine. As in, the opportunity is there, should they choose to make an effort. They are only limited by their personal drive and will to succeed, not a legal structure that bars them from decent employment opportunities, property ownership, or the ability to conduct legal and financial business in their own names. They don't need a man to do those things for them or sign off that it's ok. Whether they do or not is on them. |
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Posted: 8/2/2018 3:40:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2018 3:46:05 PM EDT
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Problem is some dating websites / apps require the woman to make the first move. Its.. odd. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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