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Posted: 12/7/2022 8:26:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Knuckle busters. We used to keep one in each location until offline processing became more common place. My dad had one in his tv shop. Was easy to get a finger tip stuck under the slide. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 8:36:16 AM EDT
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I think I threw mine out a few years ago when they switched me to electronic transactions.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 9:01:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever. Do you remember the metal charge plates from department stores?  http://image.timepassagesnostalgia.com/watermarked/imagesd4/d427creditx2b.jpg Very similar: Cars in the '60's came with a "Protecto-Plate" attached to owner's manual for use on warranty claims. http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public4/protect-o-plate-1.cfm |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 9:04:40 AM EDT
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Hahahaha memories
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Posted: 12/7/2022 9:19:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 'Wood'? You have got to be kidding me. You can't possibly think that's the correct word. Never underestimate people. Be happy he is in the right ballpark because it sounds right and nowadays, that is usually more than you can hope for. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 9:25:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2022 9:58:52 AM EDT
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Worst nightmare shift I ever worked in a restaurant.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 10:02:06 AM EDT
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places still have them in case the power goes out and people need to leave
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Posted: 12/7/2022 10:29:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of stores still have these on standby for when their network goes down. I most recently saw them in use at a Chipotle. Funny chipotle is the last place I saw one also |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 10:30:04 AM EDT
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I was still using one in 2003. The city police had some weird gas card that required it. One of the cops had to point me to where it was under the counter.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 10:34:07 AM EDT
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Do you take Diner's Club?
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:02:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Been a while, though. Funny story: My sister was shopping somewhere with her daughter, who was about 5-6 at the time. My niece asked for something, and it was something expensive. Don't recall what it was. My sister said something along the lines of not having enough money to buy it. My niece said, "Why don't you use that cross money?" Sis was confused and asked what she meant. She said, "You know, when you put that card in the machine and they cross over it." We still joke about that. When my oldest son was very young in the late 90's, he asked my father to buy him something expensive, and was told money doesn't grow on trees. He instantly laughed at this, and said, of course not Grandpa, it comes out of machines! |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:07:16 AM EDT
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As of a couple years ago a hobby shop in Rolla, MO was still using one of those.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:35:09 AM EDT
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We still have a couple somewhere.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:45:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever. Do you remember the metal charge plates from department stores? http://image.timepassagesnostalgia.com/watermarked/imagesd4/d427creditx2b.jpg I remember them. And used one of these for the imprint.  |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:52:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of stores still have these on standby for when their network goes down. I most recently saw them in use at a Chipotle. Those CC imprinting machines can't be used with the current crop of CCs because they don't have the raised lettering, my current card is flat, but the ink is in white so that you can see the CC numbers. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:52:43 AM EDT
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In the '90s, I worked for a rental car company at the airport. We had to imprint the credit card onto the contract. The contract made four or five carbon copies. The customer got one, we kept one for our records, I don't know what else happened to the other couple. But there were always extras. The extras went into the trash. Of course everyone used clear paper bags in the little trash cans under the rental counters.
At the end of the night, all those clear trash bags full of rental car receipts, imprinted with credit cards, went to the trash compactor. Of course, it was always overflowing and there were bags laying all around on the ground near the trash compactor. No surprises, the bags would break and the paper would blow all around. It's hard to imagine such levels of non-security, in two days PCI world. Credit card theft and identity theft now are so well known, yet just 25 to 30 years ago, you could walk into an area like that and walk out with thousands of credit card numbers and home addresses and driver's license numbers and birthdays, etc... |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:56:07 AM EDT
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Yep, ran one at a Tire Store I ran in 1979. Also used TeleCheck to get approval on personal checks. It was a call in service where you gave your vendor number and check info and they gave back an approval number. Pain in the ass and it could take a while at Christmas.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:57:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to run cards in one of those all the time. We had a book the card companies would send out periodically that had numbers of cards not to honor. What a PITA. Maybe why I hate retail. The place I worked had an incentive to use that book. If you found a stolen card, they would give you a $10 reward. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:59:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: Back in the before time you wood put the card in and slide the contraption and I wood imprint the number into the carbon copy paper. Then they wood presumably send them to be processed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170265/manual-credit-card-machine-old-technolog-2626614.JPG Had those ^ in the Johannesburg international airport at the rental car counter in 2015. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 12:43:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The thing back then was only people with good credit got them. It was just a number on a slip of paper that was signed, they knew where people shopped, but not exactly what for. Once electronic/automated approval process and storage were in place, stores send itemized receipts with the approval request, they give them to everybody to get purchase habits and improve Google AdSense. (Though they said the details are to fight fraud... But that was before signing agreements to share the data with Google for both Visa and MC, now they just pretend it doesn't happen) 1984 all around us pushing the cashless society. Some places won't take $50 or $100 because "too many are counterfeit" when they can run it under a UV light and test in 2 seconds that doesn't seem a good argument. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gat-damn pain in the ass. Gimme cash old man! I worked at a gas station in the eighties, cranked off many a transaction with them. The thing back then was only people with good credit got them. It was just a number on a slip of paper that was signed, they knew where people shopped, but not exactly what for. Once electronic/automated approval process and storage were in place, stores send itemized receipts with the approval request, they give them to everybody to get purchase habits and improve Google AdSense. (Though they said the details are to fight fraud... But that was before signing agreements to share the data with Google for both Visa and MC, now they just pretend it doesn't happen) 1984 all around us pushing the cashless society. Some places won't take $50 or $100 because "too many are counterfeit" when they can run it under a UV light and test in 2 seconds that doesn't seem a good argument. You are correct. Converting America to “eCash only” is another means of increasing government control of “everything” and is as much a part of the Marxist agenda as is registration and confiscation of guns. IOW, to attain their end game agenda, the government needs to know everything about you and control everything you do. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 1:17:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apple auto-correct might think that. Sometimes I'll be typing away and Apple will change a word, not the one I'm typing but one earlier in the sentence trying to fix what I'm saying. It happens so fast, in the blink of an eye, if you're not constantly watching and re-reading what you wrote. You wooden believe some of the mistakes I've caught it introducing. I’ve actually thought about disabling autocorrect just for that reason. Sometimes the substitutions it makes are from left field. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 2:39:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the '90s, I worked for a rental car company at the airport. We had to imprint the credit card onto the contract. The contract made four or five carbon copies. The customer got one, we kept one for our records, I don't know what else happened to the other couple. But there were always extras. The extras went into the trash. Of course everyone used clear paper bags in the little trash cans under the rental counters. At the end of the night, all those clear trash bags full of rental car receipts, imprinted with credit cards, went to the trash compactor. Of course, it was always overflowing and there were bags laying all around on the ground near the trash compactor. No surprises, the bags would break and the paper would blow all around. It's hard to imagine such levels of non-security, in two days PCI world. Credit card theft and identity theft now are so well known, yet just 25 to 30 years ago, you could walk into an area like that and walk out with thousands of credit card numbers and home addresses and driver's license numbers and birthdays, etc... CC security process is still not very good, we should be using something more like this: 
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Posted: 12/7/2022 2:47:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2022 2:53:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2022 2:58:43 PM EDT
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Hell, I remember when they were brand new gadgets.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:05:39 PM EDT
[#27]
'Last time I had a card run through one of those was on the hood of an Ohio State troopers car when being extorted for a $70 speeding ticket.
Circa 1992 |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:09:26 PM EDT
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Lol yes. And having to call to get. authorization. PITA. Don't get me started on taking checks. I used a no 2 pencel sideways that was painted red A LOT when I disn't have an imprinter (when mobile out of the shop). |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 'Last time I had a card run through one of those was on the hood of an Ohio State troopers car when being extorted for a $70 speeding ticket. Circa 1992 Weird, did they not use mail-in tickets back then? |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:21:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNFC, yuck https://www.springcard.com/en/learning/how-to-avoid-the-hack-into-a-nfc-communication No distance > short distrance. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:30:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Yep. Used to be a good back up but cards are going away from embossed printing.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 3:32:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird, did they not use mail-in tickets back then? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 'Last time I had a card run through one of those was on the hood of an Ohio State troopers car when being extorted for a $70 speeding ticket. Circa 1992 Weird, did they not use mail-in tickets back then? I have no idea... Our choices (three guys on motorcycles) were... 1. Follow the cop into to town and hit an ABM for the cash. 2. Visa or Mastercard right there 3. Go to jail until Monday morning and go before a justice of the peace. I wasnt even speeding. My two buddies were. He had them pulled over and when I caught up I stopped to see what was what. 'Got fucked  Eta We were aliens heading back to Canada, so maybe that's why we were made to pay. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 4:40:12 PM EDT
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we used an electric version...
 
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Posted: 12/7/2022 4:41:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yep. Shhh-chunk. Quoted: Yep, old skool. Quoted: I remember people asking for the carbon out of it so no one stole there card number. All of the above. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 4:41:45 PM EDT
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Used em a couple times, 20+ years ago- when the credit card machine was down.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 5:36:23 PM EDT
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There was one before that. The Charge-a-Plate. It was like a big stapler. You put the charge card on the surface, and pushed down on a handle. The forced a roller across the card and an embossed metal plate that identified the merchant.
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:52:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was one before that. The Charge-a-Plate. It was like a big stapler. You put the charge card on the surface, and pushed down on a handle. The forced a roller across the card and an embossed metal plate that identified the merchant. I remember when I was a kid seeing an episode of Mr. Ed where Wilbur and the neighbor guy were grousing about their wives spending too much money at the department stores. And they mentioned charger plates. Even though I was young, I assumed maybe that was an old name for credit cards. Guess I was close enough. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:55:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw one used in the late '00s-early 2010s when the electronic machine was down at a Dunham's store. I was born in '91 and that's the only time I can recall seeing one used. Same, one in a general store up by Greer around the same time. I thought it was neat because i've also never seen one before. |
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Posted: 12/7/2022 11:57:45 PM EDT
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We used the slips from them a couple times when the power went out at a restaurant i worked at. I dont know if we had the machine, we would just rub the side of a pen over the paper and card to ge tthe impression.
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Posted: 12/8/2022 12:23:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 'Wood'? You have got to be kidding me. You can't possibly think that's the correct word. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Back in the before time you wood put the card in and slide the contraption and I wood imprint the number into the carbon copy paper. Then they wood presumably send them to be processed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170265/manual-credit-card-machine-old-technolog-2626614.JPG 'Wood'? You have got to be kidding me. You can't possibly think that's the correct word. It gets better. Quoted:Thats an interesting point. I've seen a couple with the printed numbers. I would think the card company wooden honor it as you could write anything in there |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 12:41:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: Back in the before time you wood put the card in and slide the contraption and I wood imprint the number into the carbon copy paper. Then they wood presumably send them to be processed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170265/manual-credit-card-machine-old-technolog-2626614.JPG Yes of course I'm half a century old?? |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:04:20 AM EDT
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I wish I had a penny for every one of these I ran in the five years I worked part-time at an Exxon station after high school and during college. We had full-service and self-service pumps but still had to run the cards.
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:14:56 AM EDT
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One of those card machines was probably used to process the sale of this S&W Model 3906 back in '89 when this gun was originally made and sold.
 Yeah, I remember those. Abuelo had them for his business. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:27:06 AM EDT
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i wooden know, what wood i do with it? wood i like it? or wooda hate it? cood i took with me?
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:35:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: zip-zop, we used them in a gas station i worked in, as a kid. This. And we had to walk into the back, call the 800 number, and get authorization. Threatened to siphon the gas out of a tank on more than one occasion when it was declined. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:47:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of stores still have these on standby for when their network goes down. I most recently saw them in use at a Chipotle. I have a part time retail auto parts gig. We keep a metal box under the counter of forms to use if the electric goes out or the network goes down. Just like a receipt, name, address, phone, purchase details and CC number with number on the back. Cust gets a copy. When the power comes back, we enter them all in by hand, and hope they aren't declined. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:56:41 AM EDT
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Yes, I still keep them in my buildings for use in case of power failures.
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Posted: 12/8/2022 2:17:32 PM EDT
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Yup… and the ranch where we pheasant hunt still has one. Old boy bitches every time we hand him a card. He fills out the carbon form by hand with card info…
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Posted: 12/8/2022 2:43:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of stores still have these on standby for when their network goes down. I most recently saw them in use at a Chipotle. Won’t work with my cards. They are engraved on the back with the number instead of raised numbers. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 3:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CC security process is still not very good, we should be using something more like this: https://mopy.blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/IMG_0257.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In the '90s, I worked for a rental car company at the airport. We had to imprint the credit card onto the contract. The contract made four or five carbon copies. The customer got one, we kept one for our records, I don't know what else happened to the other couple. But there were always extras. The extras went into the trash. Of course everyone used clear paper bags in the little trash cans under the rental counters. At the end of the night, all those clear trash bags full of rental car receipts, imprinted with credit cards, went to the trash compactor. Of course, it was always overflowing and there were bags laying all around on the ground near the trash compactor. No surprises, the bags would break and the paper would blow all around. It's hard to imagine such levels of non-security, in two days PCI world. Credit card theft and identity theft now are so well known, yet just 25 to 30 years ago, you could walk into an area like that and walk out with thousands of credit card numbers and home addresses and driver's license numbers and birthdays, etc... CC security process is still not very good, we should be using something more like this: https://mopy.blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/IMG_0257.jpg That is what I would like. I have an RSA Keyfob that gives a new number every minute to log into my bank account on Phone or over web (after entering username and password), needing that to be entered on the card physically would eliminate a crapload of random guess card hits, hacks, and data leaks. It would add another step in checkout for "Enter current 6 digit code on card/fob to complete transaction" after submitting card number/expiration date/etc, very slight extra annoyance but it would work. Not sure why they haven't just gone to that straight away if they're really trying to fight fraud. They could also use a separate RSA keyfob like I have to access account and you need to enter the number on that to continue with transaction instead of having RSA sequencer built into the card, though having it built into card with a PIN unlock would be a handy system. |
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