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Posted: 3/28/2019 12:46:39 AM EST
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Rakes break. If you are breaking hooks, you need to change up your technique. I keep a couple extra tripple peak rakes from sparrows on hand because that seems to be the one I always break. |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 1:01:31 AM EST
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I bought a Sparrows set and had a padlock and the deadbolt to my front door opened in under a minute.
I still haven't had any luck with bump keys though. |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 1:07:51 AM EST
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Recreational lock picker here, got into it after my Gf locked me out of the house at 4am and 12 degrees out, now I keep my kit in my car. It’s come in handy much more than I anticipated at work and home. Never pick a lock that you don’t have permission to pick, or that you don’t own. Never pick a lock that you wouldn’t mind breaking or harming, and never pick a lock that you don’t know the exact owner of. If you apply all three of the above rules, it’s a great hobby. I’ve found myself going to homedepot or Walmart and buying locks just to see if I can pick them. It’s surprising how easy even some of the more expensive locks are. |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 1:12:40 AM EST
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I bought a Sparrows set and had a padlock and the deadbolt to my front door opened in under a minute. I still haven't had any luck with bump keys though. Have you seen Bosnian Bill's video about his bump key technique? |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 2:02:18 AM EST
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I had better luck with a home made bump key vs the sparrows one for the same lock. I think that the sparrows ones are cut a little too deep and you don't get a good ramping action from them. Have you seen Bosnian Bill's video about his bump key technique? I've used the castration bands but they didn't seem to help. Filing the ramp in the keys looks like it'll make a difference 
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Posted: 3/28/2019 9:18:00 AM EST
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I also recommend a tubular pick for toolboxes and the like. I bought a Hobo Fright tool cart to use for gun stuff a while back and (some-goddamn-how) managed to lose the key before I even assembled it. I unloaded and unboxed it at night and I'm thinking I tossed the piece of styrofoam the keys were taped to without thinking and it was trash day the next morning...
Anyway, took me about a minute to pop the top on the toolbox once I found the tube pick which was awesome. 
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Posted: 3/28/2019 9:40:24 AM EST
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I have picked a few locks, but not as a hobby. Power tools will get you there quicker.
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Posted: 3/28/2019 1:38:01 PM EST
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DIY practice stand for door locks:
https://www.itstactical.com/skillcom/lock-picking/how-to-make-an-inexpensive-diy-lock-pick-practice-set/ |
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Posted: 3/28/2019 10:28:58 PM EST
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The Sparrows 'Master Switch' has pissed me off to the point I am going to mill apart a #3 to puzzle out what the damn thing is supposed to be doing.
There will be diagnostic video. |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 8:35:54 AM EST
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I've had that in my cart a couple of times, but never bought it.
If it works like it's supposed to, it's probably faster than picking. Those locks are normally pretty easy to pick or rake open though, which is why I never bought it.  Mastering the Art of Bypass: Introducing The Master Switch |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 9:40:49 AM EST
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Got my order in from Sparrow. The prybars have helped a lot, especially with raking which I am having some luck with now.
Still no luck with my Brinks pancake, it shouldn't be this hard to pick.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 9:57:18 AM EST
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Success!
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Posted: 3/29/2019 10:14:42 AM EST
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I have a few sets of picks and of course my stack of repo man's keys. But nine times out of ten if someone says they're locked out with a padlock, I whip out the old cordless angle grinder and just give it Hell. It's far more fun than bolt cutters. I can even open a car door with an angle grinder but it ain't that pretty at all.
Nobody at work calls me any more if they can't get into something. 
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Posted: 3/29/2019 10:15:41 AM EST
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Posted: 3/29/2019 7:17:48 PM EST
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Lol just needed another few minutes. Lock it shut and do it again!
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I have a few sets of picks and of course my stack of repo man's keys. But nine times out of ten if someone says they're locked out with a padlock, I whip out the old cordless angle grinder and just give it Hell. It's far more fun than bolt cutters. I can even open a car door with an angle grinder but it ain't that pretty at all. Nobody at work calls me any more if they can't get into something. Quoted: Awesome! Spray some lube in the lock like WD40 or dry lube. I have found it can help get the pins moving easier. Is anyone interested in creating a group to share locks or challenge locks? I know that I have a small collection, so I assume some others do too. What'd be the best way to organize and what's the most cost-effective way to ship? |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 7:28:45 PM EST
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Lol just needed another few minutes. Lock it shut and do it again! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Lol just needed another few minutes. Lock it shut and do it again! . It has a loose core with spring tension.Quoted:
Is anyone interested in creating a group to share locks or challenge locks? I know that I have a small collection, so I assume some others do too. What'd be the best way to organize and what's the most cost-effective way to ship? |
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Posted: 3/29/2019 7:34:55 PM EST
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Sad that the only difficult master lock is a plastic one
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Posted: 3/29/2019 7:53:25 PM EST
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Been doing it off and on for 25 years. I’m not particularly amazing at it, but it’s saved me a time or two as well. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 1:04:51 PM EST
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The Brinks pancake is still giving me trouble but I picked my other 5 in just a couple of minutes.
I'm ready for some more. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 3:31:33 PM EST
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The Brinks pancake is still giving me trouble but I picked my other 5 in just a couple of minutes. I'm ready for some more. This list gives a good progression of locks |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 3:34:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, but GD has plenty of booger pickers. 
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:02:46 PM EST
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I was at Menards picking up stuff for the garden and decided to pick up a few. I raked and picked the first three in about 5 minutes. These were my first cheaper master locks and now I see why they look so easy on YouTube. With the bigger one all I did was worm my favorite rake to the back and it popped right open. It was literally a 2 second pick my first try. The smaller one only barely put up a fight.
Since my old pancake is giving me a hard time I thought I should pick up a new one and see if I didn't just stumble on a particularly hard example. The new pancake took a while though, I bet I worked on it for 15 minutes before it popped. I had to put a ton of tension on both the keyway and shackle to get anything at all, it was all springy pins until that. I think it would be much easier to pick when installed on something or in a vice.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:12:57 PM EST
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We get refreshed in Forcible Entry each year with FD. It's basically a class on how to quickly break into stuff
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:14:47 PM EST
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https://www.reddit.com/r/lockpicking/wiki/beltranking This list gives a good progression of locks Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Brinks pancake is still giving me trouble but I picked my other 5 in just a couple of minutes. I'm ready for some more. This list gives a good progression of locks |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:24:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any recommendations on a starter set? |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:40:07 PM EST
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I picked up the tuxedo set from sparrows lock picks and it has been a good little set, I’m a beginner so I don’t do anything fancy just master locks So far Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Any recommendations on a starter set? https://www.amazon.com/KOKOO-Strong-Lock-and-Hook-Set-15-Count/dp/B07Q6KB7QW/ref=mp_s_a_1_37_sspa?crid=J3KPRZBU2TMC&keywords=lock+pick+set&qid=1553995874&s=gateway&sprefix=Lock+pick&sr=8-37-spons&psc=1 |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:47:20 PM EST
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I've had that in my cart a couple of times, but never bought it. If it works like it's supposed to, it's probably faster than picking. Those locks are normally pretty easy to pick or rake open though, which is why I never bought it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aFdFf32-9A |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:53:53 PM EST
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Any of you guy pick a Medco lock?
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Posted: 3/30/2019 9:08:03 PM EST
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Any of you guy pick a Medco lock? |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 9:20:19 PM EST
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 I'm only good at timed Bank vaultsLittle known fact banks do maintenance on the timing circuit once a year during daylight savings time. those vaults are easy as pie to open that one hour a year . but most major banks plan extra guards and post unmark cars at those banks or privet security ... |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 10:03:10 PM EST
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Not me. Don't think I've ever seen one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any of you guy pick a Medco lock? |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 10:11:07 PM EST
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Any of you guy pick a Medco lock? of
Something like this  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 11:15:56 PM EST
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I work at a large hospital we have locksmiths. I am a controls/ PLC guy. But we use high security Medeco locks for different levels of access for people. We changed from 8/10 line Seargent locks to all Medco. They where showing me a the pin combos and angles the pins are in. Said not many can pick them. Just curious as everyone bitches about paying $25 for loosing a key and paying for new one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any of you guy pick a Medco lock? Is there anyway those Sargents would be available to interested people? |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 11:17:14 PM EST
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Pretty sure I have a core cam lock that I did but not a door one of
Something like this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/177890/__1_JPG-895977.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something like this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/177890/__1_JPG-895977.JPG |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 11:18:56 PM EST
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Same as you OP. Picked the three practice locks within 20min, they’re clear duh, super easy. I’ve picked every lock I could find around the house and have planned to just start buying a random lock a week to practice on. Good fun.
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Posted: 3/30/2019 11:34:46 PM EST
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That does not look difficult at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any of you guy pick a Medco lock? of
Something like this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/177890/__1_JPG-895977.JPG 
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Posted: 3/31/2019 12:27:27 AM EST
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I dabble. bump keys are fun too. |
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Posted: 3/31/2019 12:59:15 AM EST
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I have all kinds of tools and love Sparrows but I have to give props to Mad Bob's lockpicks.
The finish is incredible and they feel great in the hand. They make some wonderful tools. They are in the UK but my stuff always gets here as fast as anything else. Check them out. I have no affiliations with them just a very happy customer. Mad Bob's I bought a small locksmithing shops leftovers when they went out of business and can cut bump keys, lock busters, and other assorted novelties. I have thousands of blanks mostly unsorted. It's a nightmare to dig through and I need to set up a key board but i'm just an amateur that messes around as a hobby. Check your local Habitat for Humanity Re-Store type shops to find all sorts of practice locks cheap. I find them all the time missing keys for around one dollar. It's a fun hobby. |
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Posted: 3/31/2019 1:14:46 AM EST
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I found out the hard way today not to gut a lock if you don’t have the proper tools to put it back together. I trashed all but one spring and had to cut the flattened part off of them. I was able to finally get it back together and get it operational but I don’t know how the reduced spring tension is going to affect picking, which I wasn’t able to do prior.
When making your own bypass keys what do you guys use for stock? I want to make one for my ABUS, with some of the maroons I work with it’d be better than cutting it when they forget their lock on something and leave for 12 hours. |
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Posted: 3/31/2019 1:51:11 AM EST
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I found out the hard way today not to gut a lock if you don't have the proper tools to put it back together. I trashed all but one spring and had to cut the flattened part off of them. I was able to finally get it back together and get it operational but I don't know how the reduced spring tension is going to affect picking, which I wasn't able to do prior. When making your own bypass keys what do you guys use for stock? I want to make one for my ABUS, with some of the maroons I work with it'd be better than cutting it when they forget their lock on something and leave for 12 hours. Using light and heavy springs or both in a lock is one of the thing people do to make it more challenging |
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Posted: 3/31/2019 8:23:15 PM EST
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A fun looking one to pick
Assa twin. 
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Posted: 3/31/2019 10:27:29 PM EST
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A fun looking one to pick Assa twin. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/215877/maxresdefault-896931.jpg Do you pick one set of pins then the other, or both sets as they bind? If that uses a maintenance or master key to remove the lock, that thing would be pretty much impossible. Lol |
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Posted: 3/31/2019 11:24:22 PM EST
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Dammit, you bastards just spent another $50 of my money. Sparrows kit on the way.
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Posted: 4/1/2019 8:27:33 AM EST
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A fun looking one to pick Assa twin. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/215877/maxresdefault-896931.jpg |
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Posted: 4/3/2019 12:26:46 AM EST
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I thought this thread died
. I found a cluster of old locks the other day all locked together and was able to pick them in about 10 mins of so (6 of them) after finding out what they liked. They weren't a master no 3 but they were similar size and shape and different company with a insane small and tight key hole.
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Posted: 4/3/2019 8:06:02 PM EST
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I'm sill watching. Should have my Sparrows Tuxedo kit by the weekend. I've been watching videos and can't wait to try some of the old locks I have setting around.
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Posted: 4/3/2019 8:22:47 PM EST
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Lock picker checking in.
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Posted: 4/5/2019 9:30:14 PM EST
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So I got my tuxedo kit and clear lock today. I single picked the clear lock 3 times in about 5 minutes right off the bat. I was able to rake a Chinese lock several times with no problems.
I really don't know shit about what a good lock is from a bad one, but I spent about 45 minutes on a Master lock No.5 with no luck. I've tried every pick I have, but the keyway is too tight to get my rakes in. Are No.5's a known hard lock to pick? |
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Posted: 4/5/2019 10:35:37 PM EST
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So I got my tuxedo kit and clear lock today. I single picked the clear lock 3 times in about 5 minutes right off the bat. I was able to rake a Chinese lock several times with no problems. I really don't know shit about what a good lock is from a bad one, but I spent about 45 minutes on a Master lock No.5 with no luck. I've tried every pick I have, but the keyway is too tight to get my rakes in. Are No.5's a known hard lock to pick? |
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Posted: 4/5/2019 11:53:26 PM EST
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I have a couple S&G locks, have not attempted at all, they have shrouded/doors on the key ways.
I use ABUS when I need a lock, they are so unique most folks wouldn’t understand how to defeat them if all they’ve ever seen was tumbler locks. Better off cutting through the wall than trying to defeat one of those locks they’re so tough. Never have been able to open a 5200 series, I did open one of the “harder” masterlocks, with no tension tumbler, and security pins a couple times. It was hit or miss. |
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