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Posted: 5/15/2022 3:09:14 PM EDT
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What year did Zagat get gobbled up?
I will mark that as the official year the "old internet" died. I loved Zagat. There were no shills, no idiots. Just reliable reviews allowing sorting by categories. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:14:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Obviously I know what the NDA stands for but not the -RTRS. Help a brotha out? |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:31:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RoccoOnFire]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkilletsUSMC: Obviously I know what the NDA stands for but not the -RTRS. Help a brotha out? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkilletsUSMC: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Obviously I know what the NDA stands for but not the -RTRS. Help a brotha out? I think they are just quoting their source, and RTRS stands for Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/elon-musk-says-twitter-legal-team-told-him-he-violated-an-nda-2022-05-15/ |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:46:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire: I think they are just quoting their source, and RTRS stands for Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/elon-musk-says-twitter-legal-team-told-him-he-violated-an-nda-2022-05-15/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire: Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Obviously I know what the NDA stands for but not the -RTRS. Help a brotha out? I think they are just quoting their source, and RTRS stands for Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/elon-musk-says-twitter-legal-team-told-him-he-violated-an-nda-2022-05-15/ That makes sense with the space before the dash I guess. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 1:04:08 AM EDT
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twitters legal team has not been put into a single room box with no enviro-mental controls yet?
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Posted: 5/16/2022 10:32:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: anothermisanthrope]
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The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Hindenburg said Musk could pay the $1 billion break-up fee tied to the takeover and still come away with a better deal if he were to re-negotiate, noting his "significant leverage" over the micro-blogging website and the lack of a competing offer. "Musk holds all the cards here," Hindenburg said. "If Elon Musk's bid for Twitter disappeared tomorrow, Twitter's equity would fall by 50% from current levels. Consequently, we see a significant risk that the deal gets repriced lower." https://www.thestreet.com/markets/twitter-stock-slides-as-elon-musk-reveals-spat-with-legal-team |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 10:38:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: https://www.thestreet.com/markets/twitter-stock-slides-as-elon-musk-reveals-spat-with-legal-team Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Hindenburg said Musk could pay the $1 billion break-up fee tied to the takeover and still come away with a better deal if he were to re-negotiate, noting his "significant leverage" over the micro-blogging website and the lack of a competing offer. "Musk holds all the cards here," Hindenburg said. "If Elon Musk's bid for Twitter disappeared tomorrow, Twitter's equity would fall by 50% from current levels. Consequently, we see a significant risk that the deal gets repriced lower." https://www.thestreet.com/markets/twitter-stock-slides-as-elon-musk-reveals-spat-with-legal-team Musk is playing them like a fiddle. He’s in the ultimate power position. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 10:43:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: https://www.thestreet.com/markets/twitter-stock-slides-as-elon-musk-reveals-spat-with-legal-team Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Hindenburg said Musk could pay the $1 billion break-up fee tied to the takeover and still come away with a better deal if he were to re-negotiate, noting his "significant leverage" over the micro-blogging website and the lack of a competing offer. "Musk holds all the cards here," Hindenburg said. "If Elon Musk's bid for Twitter disappeared tomorrow, Twitter's equity would fall by 50% from current levels. Consequently, we see a significant risk that the deal gets repriced lower." https://www.thestreet.com/markets/twitter-stock-slides-as-elon-musk-reveals-spat-with-legal-team I'm a little rusty on my multi-billion dollar social media acquisition procedures  ...Why would Musk be subject to the $1B pull-out penalty if the deal was made under false pretenses? |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 10:44:55 AM EDT
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What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter?
Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 10:49:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 10:49:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Musk is playing them like a fiddle. He’s in the ultimate power position. He is going to tank them, expose them, then buy back for pennies on the dollar. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 10:57:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag: He is going to tank them, expose them, then buy back for pennies on the dollar. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag: Originally Posted By spidey07: Musk is playing them like a fiddle. He’s in the ultimate power position. He is going to tank them, expose them, then buy back for pennies on the dollar. Precisely. 3d chess. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:09:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: https://www.thestreet.com/markets/twitter-stock-slides-as-elon-musk-reveals-spat-with-legal-team Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Hindenburg said Musk could pay the $1 billion break-up fee tied to the takeover and still come away with a better deal if he were to re-negotiate, noting his "significant leverage" over the micro-blogging website and the lack of a competing offer. "Musk holds all the cards here," Hindenburg said. "If Elon Musk's bid for Twitter disappeared tomorrow, Twitter's equity would fall by 50% from current levels. Consequently, we see a significant risk that the deal gets repriced lower." https://www.thestreet.com/markets/twitter-stock-slides-as-elon-musk-reveals-spat-with-legal-team  Attached FileHad a feeling. 
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:11:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: The CDs only came in after a long campaign of floppies. The floppies could at least be re-used, if I recall correctly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By SnowboundinNH: Originally Posted By transplanted: Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: We were fucked long before then. My mission in life is to build a time machine so I can go back, find whoever invented the free AOL disks, and strangle them in their crib. @WinstonSmith What's an AOL disk? @transplanted Back in the old timey days we had to load software on our computers to use the internet. Well, not necessarily to use the internet but to connect to whoever our internet provider was so they could give us access to the internet. Discs for AOL usually came bundled with a new computer, plus AOL sent them out as junk mail so every couple of weeks you’d get an AOL disc (a CD) in the mail. The CDs only came in after a long campaign of floppies. The floppies could at least be re-used, if I recall correctly. I was PISSED when AOL went to CDs from the floppies. I hadn't had to buy a 1.44 floppy for 2 or 3 years. 
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:12:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WinstonSmith: The CDs couldn't be rewritten, just used as beer coasters or microwaved to make art. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WinstonSmith: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Floppies and CD's could be reused The CDs couldn't be rewritten, just used as beer coasters or microwaved to make art. I used a bunch of the floppies, the CDs were trash. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:20:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David0858: I used a bunch of the floppies, the CDs were trash. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Floppies and CD's could be reused The CDs couldn't be rewritten, just used as beer coasters or microwaved to make art. I used a bunch of the floppies, the CDs were trash. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:25:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
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I still have Visual Studio v4.0 for both 16-bit & 32-bit on 1.44 floppies. One day, I'll glue them all to a big board and hang it on my wall.
Anyone want to buy my TWTR stonks?  |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:27:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David0858: I used a bunch of the floppies, the CDs were trash. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Floppies and CD's could be reused The CDs couldn't be rewritten, just used as beer coasters or microwaved to make art. I used a bunch of the floppies, the CDs were trash. The CDs made good targets at the range, though mine didn't allow them, etc.
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:30:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David0858: I used a bunch of the floppies, the CDs were trash. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Floppies and CD's could be reused The CDs couldn't be rewritten, just used as beer coasters or microwaved to make art. I used a bunch of the floppies, the CDs were trash. the cds were great fun to put in the microwave for 10 seconds. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:34:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:37:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Sounds really criminal from a sec point of view |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:39:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lomshek: Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. The value of the company rests entirely on the quantity of real, human users. If they misrepresented that, they have committed fraud by over-inflating the value of the stock. Fraud not only in the sale of the company to Musk, but they would have also been committing fraud against the shareholders as well. A sample size of 100 clearly indicates to me that they are scared fucking shitless of the 5% number they committed themselves to. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:40:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lomshek: Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:45:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. meh, no reasonable prosecutor etc etc |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:49:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag: Sounds really criminal from a sec point of view Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Sounds really criminal from a sec point of view Twitter's official number not being remotely accurate would break a number of financial laws, on top of all the election tampering laws they are already breaking en mass |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:50:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:51:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fourays2: meh, no reasonable prosecutor etc etc Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fourays2: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. meh, no reasonable prosecutor etc etc With a market cap of $31 billion, there will be a lot of people losing millions of dollars if Twitter has been faking it's daily users. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:55:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: They'll just ignore it like all feds do Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 11:57:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Billionaires probably don't have to worry about getting justice. Just us peasants |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Sounds more like musk is trying to expose/kill Twitter than buy Twitter. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:12:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Precisely. 3d chess. @spidey07 I wish our side would learn how to play checkers right before trying to play chess. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:13:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: Twitter's official number not being remotely accurate would break a number of financial laws, on top of all the election tampering laws they are already breaking en mass Worse case scenario some people and the company itself get some yuge fines. No one is going to jail. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:15:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: I still have Visual Studio v4.0 for both 16-bit & 32-bit on 1.44 floppies. One day, I'll glue them all to a big board and hang it on my wall. Anyone want to buy my TWTR stonks? Speaking of old tech, I set up an XP VM through HyperV on Windows 10 to run a MSDOS program from 1987 over the weekend. As Windows 10 doesn't natively have an XP Virtual Mode like W7 did, this required downloading the XP Mode exe, but since that is no longer supported by MS, all the links to the download are dead. So a trip through the Wayback Machine was required, and thankfully there was a link and download. A little archive extraction and a file extension rename to .vhd gives a working copy of XP. Mount the VHD in Disk Management and move the MSDOS program to C:\, unmount and create the VM though Hyper-V, finish the XP install and we have a working VM that runs the program. Quick call to the activation center and presto, a running and activated copy of XP in a VM on Windows 10 to run an MSDOS program from 1987.  I was born in 1988 btw |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:28:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag: He is going to tank them, expose them, then buy back for pennies on the dollar. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag: Originally Posted By spidey07: Musk is playing them like a fiddle. He’s in the ultimate power position. He is going to tank them, expose them, then buy back for pennies on the dollar. Former share holders will then go after current management for damages ? I would think EM would not agree to accepting responsibility for current management financial screw ups. Jay |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:30:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Sounds more like musk is trying to expose/kill Twitter than buy Twitter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Sounds more like musk is trying to expose/kill Twitter than buy Twitter. It could be both. Expose them, send the wokes responsible for it to jail, and then buy it for pennies on the dollar. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:31:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: What year did Zagat get gobbled up? I will mark that as the official year the "old internet" died. I loved Zagat. There were no shills, no idiots. Just reliable reviews allowing sorting by categories. 2012 sounds about right for the death of the old internet. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZCOP: Former share holders will then go after current management for damages ? I would think EM would not agree to accepting responsibility for current management financial screw ups. Jay Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZCOP: Originally Posted By chadjetlag: Originally Posted By spidey07: Musk is playing them like a fiddle. He’s in the ultimate power position. He is going to tank them, expose them, then buy back for pennies on the dollar. Former share holders will then go after current management for damages ? I would think EM would not agree to accepting responsibility for current management financial screw ups. Jay It would be change if ownership. He cannot be held liable for previous mismanagement or false filings of a public company. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:33:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Sounds more like musk is trying to expose/kill Twitter than buy Twitter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Sounds more like musk is trying to expose/kill Twitter than buy Twitter. I think he intends to “get both” |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:36:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: I think he intends to “get both” I hope his intent is to do what it takes to get people acting to have America ran by Americans again. The bitter truth: the whole world is a lie. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:36:35 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: It could be both. Expose them, send the wokes responsible for it to jail, and then buy it for pennies on the dollar. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Sounds more like musk is trying to expose/kill Twitter than buy Twitter. It could be both. Expose them, send the wokes responsible for it to jail, and then buy it for pennies on the dollar. It really looks like, he's playing a poker game with them where he's pushing them in on what they're claiming to be/have. "Oh you have only 5% bots? Really nowww." [Pushes in pile of chips] "Oh there's no AlgorithmTM serving a left-elite agenda while killing the site? Reallllly...." [Pushes in another stack of chips] Etc. It's amazing, Twitter and the media's freakout over this, is all because he's asking Twitter if what they're claiming to be true, is actually true. They cannot handle it. What's funny is, I really do personally believe Jack told him everything. He knows what questions to ask, he knows which claims to push, he knows what the real numbers are, and he's doing a "drip drip drip" to twitter's woke executives and janitors. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:38:22 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Well maybe so, but said companies are run by fellow travellers of the Twitterites, and they are fellow leftists so maybe they would be forgiven? More likely the lefties will turn on each other, which will be very entertaining. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:43:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: exDefensorMilitas]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: It really looks like, he's playing a poker game with them where he's pushing them in on what they're claiming to be/have. "Oh you have only 5% bots? Really nowww." [Pushes in pile of chips] "Oh there's no AlgorithmTM serving a left-elite agenda while killing the site? Reallllly...." [Pushes in another stack of chips] Etc. It's amazing, Twitter and the media's freakout over this, is all because he's asking Twitter if what they're claiming to be true, is actually true. They cannot handle it. What's funny is, I really do personally believe Jack told him everything. He knows what questions to ask, he knows which claims to push, he knows what the real numbers are, and he's doing a "drip drip drip" to twitter's woke executives and janitors. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Sounds more like musk is trying to expose/kill Twitter than buy Twitter. It could be both. Expose them, send the wokes responsible for it to jail, and then buy it for pennies on the dollar. It really looks like, he's playing a poker game with them where he's pushing them in on what they're claiming to be/have. "Oh you have only 5% bots? Really nowww." [Pushes in pile of chips] "Oh there's no AlgorithmTM serving a left-elite agenda while killing the site? Reallllly...." [Pushes in another stack of chips] Etc. It's amazing, Twitter and the media's freakout over this, is all because he's asking Twitter if what they're claiming to be true, is actually true. They cannot handle it. What's funny is, I really do personally believe Jack told him everything. He knows what questions to ask, he knows which claims to push, he knows what the real numbers are, and he's doing a "drip drip drip" to twitter's woke executives and janitors. I'm still of the belief that Jack is a case of a Founder and CEO who's company was taken in a direction he didn't want when he brought in outside people. At least to some extent. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:51:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: Billionaires probably don't have to worry about getting justice. Just us peasants Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Billionaires probably don't have to worry about getting justice. Just us peasants the majority that work at those places are the same peasants you speak of. this fuckery hurts them too. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:54:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: Well maybe so, but said companies are run by fellow travellers of the Twitterites, and they are fellow leftists so maybe they would be forgiven? More likely the lefties will turn on each other, which will be very entertaining.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Well maybe so, but said companies are run by fellow travellers of the Twitterites, and they are fellow leftists so maybe they would be forgiven? More likely the lefties will turn on each other, which will be very entertaining.despite their official stances and the woke stuff going on, I'd wager there are way more conservatives working at those places than most people think. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:55:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? 
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:55:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mblades]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: Well maybe so, but said companies are run by fellow travellers of the Twitterites, and they are fellow leftists so maybe they would be forgiven? More likely the lefties will turn on each other, which will be very entertaining.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Well maybe so, but said companies are run by fellow travellers of the Twitterites, and they are fellow leftists so maybe they would be forgiven? More likely the lefties will turn on each other, which will be very entertaining.No, MrNasty is right. Massive financial institutions aren’t just going to take the L. If it was only middle class retail investors getting fleeced nothing would happen but when rich and powerful people get duped and lose billions of dollars the SEC is going to do something, they have to or the credibility of the whole system comes into question. |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:56:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DV8EDD: the majority that work at those places are the same peasants you speak of. this fuckery hurts them too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DV8EDD: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Billionaires probably don't have to worry about getting justice. Just us peasants the majority that work at those places are the same peasants you speak of. this fuckery hurts them too. Nobody is gonna throw anyone in jail, not the millionaires nor the janitors |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 12:58:00 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: What exactly is a "fake account" on Twitter? Using an account with a twitter handle of "HonestAbe" rather than "Abraham Lincoln" - - would that be a fake account? An account that exists and doesn't have a 1:1 relationship with a real person. A computer controlled account that trends what you tell it to trend, and represents itself outwardly as being a real opinion. Most of these are probably created and operated by twitter itself, which is the underlying problem. Kind of like the many shill/commie/troll accounts right here. 
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Posted: 5/16/2022 1:00:43 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: Nobody is gonna throw anyone in jail, not the millionaires nor the janitors Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By DV8EDD: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Billionaires probably don't have to worry about getting justice. Just us peasants the majority that work at those places are the same peasants you speak of. this fuckery hurts them too. Nobody is gonna throw anyone in jail, not the millionaires nor the janitors I bet he thought so too |
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Posted: 5/16/2022 1:05:47 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: I bet he thought so too https://t0.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcT8OZ6LmT4Ms1QsZNvBlwhpRmP_T3ndq8X7LfGmjS7PWpgoEahTHvPP4ZF8rl86 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By DV8EDD: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By Lomshek: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: The Tesla CEO added that there is "some chance" the number of fake and bot accounts "might be over 90% of daily active users", although Twitter told the SEC last month that the total was under 5% of its 229 million month active users. He also suggested users were being "manipulated" by Twitter's algorithm. Holy shit! Before this is over Musk might force the SEC’s hand into jailing or at least seriously fining the board. We’ve known they manipulate the shot out of views & likes but it sounds like the truth is coming out. If even half of the Twitter sphere is bullshit the same is likely true of Facebook and IG. I’m not holding my breath but it would be hilarious if this prompts some kind of social media renaissance where only real users are allowed. That's some Enron level shit. I don't see how the SEC could avoid jailing people. They'll just ignore it like all feds do Vanguard, BlackRock, Morgan Stanley, and Fidelity are some of the largest shareholders of Twitter. It's going to be hard to ignore when those players lose their ass, because Twitter has been lying this entire time. Billionaires probably don't have to worry about getting justice. Just us peasants the majority that work at those places are the same peasants you speak of. this fuckery hurts them too. Nobody is gonna throw anyone in jail, not the millionaires nor the janitors I bet he thought so too https://t0.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcT8OZ6LmT4Ms1QsZNvBlwhpRmP_T3ndq8X7LfGmjS7PWpgoEahTHvPP4ZF8rl86 Twitter is part of the liberal agenda they are safe as their crimes would reflect back upon the dems and FBI in a criminal light.... Nothing to see here move along |
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