What gives you that impression ?
since he is not using his personal actual money to finalize payment those putting up the funds on his behalf are dam sure going to do some due diligence. Secured with his stock or not. The deal goes through and stock plummets due to shit they never bothered to address..?
Musk has to put up more stock to cover it or they potentially get left holding the bag.
There is no way Private or institutional equity is funding it without some due diligence.

As Elon pointed out, of course.  Yes.  

The noise now coming from the chubby indian is starting to sound like misdirection, CYA, and prevarication.

It's gonna come out that the "real person" behind all these obviously fake accounts is a "real person".... at twitter.

He would not be in breach of contract if his offer was made against knowingly fraudulent representations of a true user count.

Fucking Beautiful

Numerous sources (WSJ, Bloomberg, Reuters, CNBC, etc.) report that he waived DD.  And while DD may be the norm for a corporate acquisition, funding from those investors probably goes into a SPAC, controlled by Elon.

This. The financial backers get paid no matter what.  They’re putting up the liquid capital backed by musks other not so liquid assets.

Boom


There it is.

He is driving down the price and calling the past leaders on the table to the SEC.

He still wants Twitter but doesn’t want the dirty laundry.

He wants it on the cheap. That’s likely why the board agreed to his offer. They knew they were caught.  And his over the top offer was too much to turn down.

He’s got their short hairs in a vice, big time.

Part of me wonders about a few things.

1) I think they had to build the TW-1000 censorship tools, oh uh, I mean, The Algorithm^TM just to do business in China right? Same with Google?

2) TBH While I do believe Jack told Elon everything,
My guess? I think he was okay with it being turned on the republicans, at first.
If a bunch of alphabet soup people tell you, "Look this is due to Russian Influence^TM. You're doing the right thing here son." Pretty persuasive in 2016 if you're a lefty.
He comes across as a wimpy soyboy, he probably felt guilty, "Trump won because of twitter", so no biggie.
He probably knew Twitter had influence on the news rooms, and for a time liked it.

Then the wheels started coming off, he wasn't allowed by the other parties to hit the brakes.
He didn't like Trump, but I'd bet this kid is a Sanders voter.
Bernie got screwed again, he probably had to sit and watch as the people who did that, now pushed forward Brandon

It probably bugged him how much his own company/platform was used to help Brandon.
Now Brandon is super unpopular, and human memories are kind of fluid - we use today's information to, at times ,edit our past beliefs.
He probably feels responsible he got him elected, that he was pushed into it, he felt comfortable with a lot of what went on, took a TON of shit for it - and they kick him out of his own fucking company.

"Know what? fuck you." he thinks to himself.

Additional hypothesis: He's looking down the hall and around the corner.
He KNOWS they want and need him to fail after the purchase.
They NEED that. If they can't have Twitter, no one will.
Because they must have realized how dangerous it is, if their leftie SJW neighbors find out just how deeply unpopular a lot of their new religion is - and just how un-racist a lot of those people are.
HUGE threat.
They need to scuttle the ship.

Elon likely believes after purchase, there's a few things that would happen
1) Media articles critiquing EVERY decision he makes. Watch as they all agree with eachother too.
2) If they shut down the botfarms?
WaPo: "Millions leave twitter as Elon Musk's Hate Speech^TM supporters flood on."
Experts^TM say Twitter has months to live.

3) IF* there were, say, bags of money coming in from NGOs or taxpayer money, (To say, look the other way on bot farms and provide data to big .gov) if those stop?
"WaPo: Elon Musk Twitter purchase a disaster, already running out of money in 5 months.
Experts^TM say it may not survive to 2023"

And so on, and so forth.
It becomes a Dying Brand^TM.
All the cool kids will "know" so.

"Ahh no point in going onto Twitter, I know Elon tried but oh well haha" would say the Greybars of society, accepting the MSM premise, not realizing that the puppet show of narratives was designed FOR that purpose.


I think Elon declaring the failure points BEFORE he gets involved for many reasons, including: When he fixes them, every fair-minded person knows why.
If he didn't?
People might not have opinions on it, and the media's stamping machine works best on blank-slate people.

WaPo: "Elon musk to suggest New Changes^TM
Experts^TM say it won't work."

And the smoothbrains will now adopt WaPo's position, OR, do the ole, "Heh, guess what guys? Both Sides^TM. Oh well debate over haha." which allows the lie to live.


TLDR: I'm just saying, I suspect Musk COULD also be stacking narrative sandbags, anticipating the PsyOp narrative machine that wants him to fail.

You and I are not far apart here.

I'm too tired today, I didn't do a good enough job of selling where I'm seeing the overlap

I almost feel sorry for Parag. He made it all the way to big dog Tech CEO, and he's still getting humiliated in public by his prospective boss like a sloppy 7/11 clerk.

I think you're directionally correct, but with a few differences.

Is everyone here familiar with Burnham's Managerial Revolution? James Burnham was essentially a former Marxist that developed a theory around the creation of a new class sandwiched between the capitalists and the workers called the managerial class. Essentially they don't own the capital, but they are credentialed experts that direct it and control it day-to-day. Basically what we're seeing now is The Capitalists Strike Back; billionaires like Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, Jack Dorsey, David Sacks, Elon Musk, and a coterie of others took their companies public, lost a large portion of real control, and now they're taking it back as a prelude to other, larger things.

That’s been my experience when challenging lefties in the public sphere.

They live on lies so are only able to look smooth when they control the flow of information.  If you can counter their bullshit and get word out on your own they collapse because they are building on sand.

This is why T$ was so effective and hated.  Unlike the average republican he didn’t just wait for the NYT or WSJ to report on what he said.

He is getting called to the carpet publicly by his potential new boss for being part of a fraud.  I don't feel sorry for him at all.  Perhaps he should take it off Twitter but Musk is intentionally doing it for the reasons pointed out above.  

It appears Twitter is about to be hit for huge SEC violations if the bots, which are a thing, are prevalent as Musk and even I suspect.  

Lying to the public and to investors is disingenuous at the least and illegal at its worst.  In the case it is potentially illegal.

Elon Musk: "I will NOT pay $44 billion for your company! It's defective, and I demand a discount NOW!" pic.twitter.com/ymd29pJgnR

— John W. Rich (Fake Tech Exec) (@Cokedupoptions) May 16, 2022

We'll see.  FWIW, Twitter uses some pretty squishy language in its public filings regarding mDAU's.  For example in the 2021 10-K

"We have performed an internal review of a sample of accounts and estimate that the average of false or spam accounts during the fourth quarter of 2021 represented fewer than 5% of our mDAU during the quarter. The false or spam accounts for a period represents the average of false or spam accounts in the samples during each monthly analysis period during the quarter. In making this determination, we applied significant judgment, so our estimation of false or spam accounts may not accurately represent the actual number of such accounts, and the actual number of false or spam accounts could be higher than we have estimated."

Anyone who has ever used Twitter and has half a brain can see it has a VERY large % of bots.  Twitter bosses know it and those chickens are coming home to roost.

Correct. Large companies are infested due to board of directors also being infested.

Guess what?  Investor activism works, the left figured this out and have been doing for well over a decade.

Who gets to vote for board?  Shareholders. If you don’t vote your shares, you’re part of the problem.

The best part of this, is Parag and his ilk really don't understand, that EM already has all the answers to what is happening at Twitter, and because they don't understand it, they think they can still out maneuver him.

And every time they try it, EM shoves them into the break down lane.

Jay

Aka checkmate.

As a multimultimulti millionaire, I'm sure he'll walk away with no fucks given.

I just want Musk to buy it, hire Trump for the day, and then call Parag and Vijaya into his office...



He could put that shit on pay per view.

He doesnt answer to money. Leftists and communists answer to satan only.  In their evil mind they are doing good.

It's amazing right?
The left had so effectively socially-bullied the right into being quiet, that it took a twitter-troll President to move the damn yardmarker out of our own homebase.

They'd ask him about something and he'd go,
"FRANKLY, YOUR NOSEJOB IS AS BAD AS YOUR RATINGS,
SAD."
Just launching into some of the most personal things you can even think of.
(against some of the meanest people in society who punch down at normal workers from an ivory tower in NYC but hey)

Now, while we don't necessarily "attack" like he does, the right is FAR more comfortable saying something like,
"Um, I just don't think drag queen story hour for children is a good idea at all?"

I would buy a ticket.

This is what I've been saying for years, and every time I, or anyone else, criticized a company, or C-suite/executive management, we were called socialists/communists/leftists by the principled, capitalist conservatives on arfcom. We were accused of wanting more government interference in business, told if we don't like it we should start our own company, etc. all so these nitwits could virtue signal to their mouth breathing, mullet combing ilk.

It's been amusing to watch nearly all of them shut the fuck up and now some are even critical of these corporations and good ole boys who run one company into the ground, be it financially, culturally, or service/quality wise and their golfing and yachting buddies on the BoD of another company bring them on and all their sycophants get brought with them to do it all over again at another company.

Even when Trump was banned from Twitter, we still had a few nitwits defending Twitter, asking "is he forced to use their servers?" and no, they weren't shills but long time, vetted members. What these principled, capitalist conservatives didn't realize was that it was much larger than just "servers" and when this very site was attempted to be deplatformed, I think that's when a lot of people here finally woke up.

One thing everyone needs to realize, understand, and accept is that while Musk may be doing a good thing with Twitter, ultimately he is not our friend. All of these unimaginably wealthy people are in their own club, and we aren't. Everyone is self serving, the unimaginably wealthy even more so than a working man who is just trying to give his family the best life he can. All it is to these ultra rich people, is a game. They will not think anything of destroying a 100 year old family owned company with a great reputation, putting thousands of people out work, and fucking over consumers with continually degenerating quality and service all so they can line their own pockets with bonuses. Now, it isn't just money, but pushing a leftist agenda for them too. Some of us saw this long ago and have been calling it out, but many others were too busy virtue signaling and telling everyone if they don't like it they should start their own business and they must be a marxist if they call out a C-suite/BoD.

Breaking from Project Veritas

Twitter employee confirms bias at Twitter

Seems I was right

Because conservatives tolerate leftist speech and leftist won't tolerate the right, Twitter opts to censor the right as "balance"@elonmusk pic.twitter.com/zjAYwcIbol

Tim Pool  (@Timcast) May 16, 2022

Until someone like Musk decides to buy ALL the shares...

^ Exactly this.  Musk probably has had all those answers for weeks.  

Links?

Just a few...

https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-says-44-billion-twitter-deal-hold-2022-05-13/
https://www.ft.com/content/a0aa177e-607c-4f3c-b2af-ac74535e2d26
https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-tweets-that-twitter-deal-is-temporarily-on-hold-11652436335

That just brings a smile to my face.

The Twitter board is gonna get sued by angry shareholders. Any financial benefit they reap from the deal will be at risk, assuming the FTC pretends they didn’t commit some serious fraud.

He tweeted the deal is off if they can't prove the Bot numbers.

20% fake/spam accounts, while 4 times what Twitter claims, could be *much* higher.

My offer was based on Twitter’s SEC filings being accurate.

Yesterday, Twitter’s CEO publicly refused to show proof of <5%.

This deal cannot move forward until he does.

Elon Musk  (@elonmusk) May 17, 2022

It sounds like he agrees with you.

Exactly. I have yet to see *any* analysis that has fake/spam/duplicates at <5%.

Elon Musk  (@elonmusk) May 15, 2022

There is some chance it might be over 90% of daily active users, which is the metric that matters to advertisers.

Very odd that the most popular tweets of all time were only liked by ~2% of daily active users.

Elon Musk  (@elonmusk) May 15, 2022

Elon Musk may be looking for a better Twitter deal as $44 billion seems too high with 20% of users being fake or spam accounts.https://t.co/rZ9Jsn60Mh pic.twitter.com/dQDVva3klZ

TESLARATI  (@Teslarati) May 17, 2022

20% fake/spam accounts, while 4 times what Twitter claims, could be *much* higher.

My offer was based on Twitter’s SEC filings being accurate.

Yesterday, Twitter’s CEO publicly refused to show proof of <5%.

This deal cannot move forward until he does.

Elon Musk  (@elonmusk) May 17, 2022

Expecting twitter to privide the truth, on almost anything, and watching them squim when lies are pointed out, is exactly why so many people want Musk to succeed. Even if he buys it and burns it to the ground.

Similar vein to Trump and POTUS.

Normal people are just tired of the bullshit parade.

Yessir. This is not  the first acquisition rodeo I've watched or rode on.

And the fraudulent filings with SEC are going to be impossible to ignore. There's a reason he mentioned that.

Seeing it burst into flames and crash to the ground will be just as fun as Musk buying it and turning it around.

Retarded take

I asked this question in another thread, but I'd like to post it here as well...

If "bots" have infiltrated Twitter, what else are they being used for? Who creates them? And do they solely exist on that platform, or are they everywhere?

Makes you think...if bots can be created so easily, what other action requires anonymity and volume?

Also makes you think....when the DNC knew that Elon would inevitably expose Twitter's platform, they immediately created the 'Ministry of Disinformation"

The timing is all too close to be coincidental

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Man this is fun to watch.
The moves he's making seem to be accomplishing multiple things at once
1) They make business sense
2) They're exposing the truth, what's REALLY going on at twitter vs what were told was the truth about twitter.

Yeah. Among “active” accounts trolls/bots are definitely disproportionate. Maybe it’s five percent if you include everyone who created a Twitter account but hasn’t signed on in years.

There’s also “bots” and “agents”, so I’m not sure how they’re counting dave979472973 with the mask and Ukraine emoji in his bio who is one of a few accounts run by the same live body. Not a “bot” but not a “real user” as far as advertisers are concerned either…

ETA I would say it counts as “fake/spam”, so if that’s what we’re counting yeah I’d say 20% is the floor for that count.

If the Twitter Twats are juicing the numbers, does anyone else think CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS,  NYT, WO PO, and other leftists are juicing pole numbers too?

Thank you. This is an interesting discussion.

So if these bots were created by Twitter, who is creating the bots for these other group think websites? Are these forums creating them themselves? Or are there 3rd party bot institutions that point-and-shoot at specific platforms unbeknownst to the website?

My concern with this is that it seems rather easy for software engineers to create an identity out of thin air. What other utilities has this technology been used for?

I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this...

So out of curiosity, I went to see if I could find a quick clip about Elon Musk talking about how his purchase of twitter isn't just a money thing.
(This is from the recent TED talk)


Know what The Algorithm^TM fround for me?

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"Listen fellow NPC, Rocket-man bad."
He's gunna ruin it, it may no longer be this doubleplus good BlueAnon platform that helps the Chinese government crush its people in the name of Progress^TM.  

People are missing the point about what Twitter has become.

Twitter ONLY EXISTS so that a fake anonymous sourced story can be pushed at light speed into the main stream media with a sense of validity due to the number of retweets, celebrity tweets and or supposedly important people tweets.  It's only function is to advance a narrative at speeds that couldn't happen before there was a Twitter.  The stories advance so fast that what use to take weeks or months to develop now takes hours.  As an added bonus nobody has to put their reputation on the line because Twitter is the journalist doing the reporting.  The rest of the journalists only use it as the source for their stories to advance the narrative.

It's a useful tool for advancing an agenda.  The bots exists to speed the process up.  We are fed the bullshit.