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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:43:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I would be interested in a non-fucky Tesla "truck."
 What did the alternate sketch look like? Kharn |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:43:45 PM EDT
[#2]
5000lb trailer - 300 miles - 30 degrees F
That should be the starting standard for any electric truck. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:45:27 PM EDT
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I hope I can get one.
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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:45:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be interested in a non-fucky Tesla "truck." What did the alternate sketch look like? Kharn Elon considered that to be the best-looking if that gives you any clues. Would have been fun to see. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:46:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has the Cybertruck not already launched? I thought it had recently. I saw a Cybertruck with other Tesla models on an car transport heading west out of Austin last week and assumed it meant it was in production. Yeah, I find this article confusing. The other day there was an article about Pepsi in CA using a fleet of the Tesla electric trucks. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:46:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be interested in a non-fucky Tesla "truck." What did the alternate sketch look like? Kharn 
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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:47:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I find this article confusing. The other day there was an article about Pepsi in CA using a fleet of the Tesla electric trucks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has the Cybertruck not already launched? I thought it had recently. I saw a Cybertruck with other Tesla models on an car transport heading west out of Austin last week and assumed it meant it was in production. Yeah, I find this article confusing. The other day there was an article about Pepsi in CA using a fleet of the Tesla electric trucks. Tesla semi truck. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:47:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2023 12:54:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryPowerful like a gorilla.
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:03:28 PM EDT
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Lead designer:
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:07:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Muh F150 Muh ‘Rado Muh Sierra Muh UAW Muh ‘Merica User name checks |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:13:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Powerful like a gorilla. Quote HistoryQuoted: Powerful like a gorilla. Yet soft and yielding like a Nerf ball. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This interview illustrates why Musk is successful. He deals in reality. Most of the companies I have worked for, faced with this kind of self inflicted wound, the owners and senior execs would steadfastly avoid any responsibility for setting unrealistic goals, continue to claim that solving the problems should be relatively easy to handle, and push the issue down to the mid level managers to solve. When they fail, it's THEIR fault, fire and hire, rinse and repeat. That last part is certainly his competition's way. At least it is how the big 3 typically operate. Especially GM from my experience with these huge Hummer/Escalade sized EVs and the boondoggle Cadillac Celestiq. The huge money pit that the Celestiq has been so far in development is astounding for the volume that will be produced. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:19:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The thing is a monstrosity. Was bound to fail from the concept. It’s not failing because of its looks, he is saying it’s already to popular and there is too much demand |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:22:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:25:26 PM EDT
[#16]
It's special all right. Ugly. Expensive. Expensive to repair. Expensive to insure. Ugly. And dumb. And impractical. And ugly. Did I mention ugly?
But he's rich, and it's his grave. Carry on, Elon. 
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:26:03 PM EDT
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Haha...this one got raked by gunfire
https://twitter.com/teslaownersSV/status/1715407593378898329?t=78KADnOW0XYbhFfbf9b7yw&s=19 |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look, masked idiots drooling over an idiotic truck. The damn thing is a turd. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27564/IMG_8527_jpeg-2997823.JPG I love how GD this comment is. "People in masks looked at one, so I hate it." 
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:27:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Elon Musk has a problem discerning between reality and video games. Sorry Elon, as much as you want it to be, life is not a CGI video game. True. Elon is in that elitist class where he smells his own sh*t and thinks it's wildflowers. However, when it comes to 2A stuff, GD also smells his sh*t and calls it wildflowers. So there's that. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:28:02 PM EDT
[#20]
Cybertruck is bulletproof (according to Elon lol)
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:29:41 PM EDT
[#21]
Elon would do well to diversify into hydrogen combustion engines. That is the future. EVs are an obvious dead end.
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:32:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck do people think a 'truck' that looks like a 5yr old designed it so fucking good looking? At least make it look something like a truck, Rumbler-ish from the Dark Knight isnt gonna be easy to build. The design is actually pretty brilliant. Trucks are a hard market to break into because of the brand loyalty around them. People love their Dodges, Fords, etc... Only way to break into the market in a big way is to produce something drastically different. The only way to compete with the big auto makers in this market is to avoid competing by offering something completely different. The Cybertruck is a radical change from normal trucks because it would otherwise just be a Rivian and Rivian will never have a dominant share of the market. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:34:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I could build 25 million of those in my garage with a sheet metal brake. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why the fuck do people think a 'truck' that looks like a 5yr old designed it so fucking good looking? At least make it look something like a truck, Rumbler-ish from the Dark Knight isnt gonna be easy to build. I could build 25 million of those in my garage with a sheet metal brake. Maximum doubt |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:36:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cybertruck is bulletproof (according to Elon lol)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F85ctSOXMAALADZ?format=png&name=900x900 Try that with a .223. I dare him. Double dare. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Circus stunt with a stripped out body mounted to jig. ALL the underpinnings were missing. "But muh Elon put a car in to space!" No. No he did not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Circus stunt with a stripped out body mounted to jig. ALL the underpinnings were missing. "But muh Elon put a car in to space!" No. No he did not. He didn't launch a car with every original piece, so he didn't launch his car to space with his rocket......your butthurt with Musk is reaching new levels. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 1:36:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Elon needs to add a black smoke blowing nut coal burning generator option for us. Exactly. A "bite this, ford boy" sticker in the window, or a set of balls hanging off the rear bumper would likely draw in quite a few members here. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 2:08:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not failing because of its looks, he is saying it’s already to popular and there is too much demand My exact problem with women. Must be true. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 2:17:14 PM EDT
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I mean, the man is nothing if not entertaining.
"We dug our own grave..." just isn't something you'd expect to hear in anyone else's earnings call.
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Posted: 10/20/2023 3:45:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, the man is nothing if not entertaining. "We dug our own grave..." just isn't something you'd expect to hear in anyone else's earnings call. I remember the first time I heard him say it while talking about the lunar starship proposal. He meant it in a very literal sense there. 
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:03:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryMy thoughts exactly lol 
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:05:57 PM EDT
[#31]
73rds drum through a Tommy gun.
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:11:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Out of context is out of context.
He said it off hand becuase it’s been a hard ramp up. Simple as that. It’s hard. He recognizes it’s harder than they thought. That’s it. Flash back to “our factories are giant money furnaces” Doomed gonna doom. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would be interested in a non-fucky Tesla "truck." What did the alternate sketch look like? Kharn https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/08/Tesla-Cybertruck-Toyota-Tundra-wrap.jpg?quality=82&strip=all Still fucky. I mean one that looks like a normal vehicle, not my spaz of a 5 year old drawing something.  Kharn |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:14:12 PM EDT
[#34]
I also can’t wait for a 100% mad win America truck to out race and out tow any of the Hecho en Mexico POS brodozers out there.
And finally make that noise ubiquitous with slow and weak. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:39:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Elon would do well to diversify into hydrogen combustion engines. That is the future. EVs are an obvious dead end. Obviously. You should really talk to Elon, I’m sure he’s tired of waiting on hold. He’s just giddy with all the great ideas you have. Quoted: Try that with a .223. I dare him. Double dare. Why? |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:42:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 5000lb trailer - 300 miles - 30 degrees F That should be the starting standard for any electric truck. Careful not to set the bar too high, my 2500 big 3 truck cant do that...but i can fill it up in 5 minutes or less. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:49:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Elon would do well to diversify into hydrogen combustion engines. That is the future. EVs are an obvious dead end. Everything we know says the opposite tho. MAYBE long haul trucking. Probably not though. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:53:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Careful not to set the bar too high, my 2500 big 3 truck cant do that...but i can fill it up in 5 minutes or less. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 5000lb trailer - 300 miles - 30 degrees F That should be the starting standard for any electric truck. Careful not to set the bar too high, my 2500 big 3 truck cant do that...but i can fill it up in 5 minutes or less. You’ll spend far far more time at gas stations with your f150 than a tesla truck will. Since your gas station will be at your home. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 4:57:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything we know says the opposite tho. MAYBE long haul trucking. Probably not though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Elon would do well to diversify into hydrogen combustion engines. That is the future. EVs are an obvious dead end. Everything we know says the opposite tho. MAYBE long haul trucking. Probably not though. As you said, maybe. When you see all the headaches that NASA has with using hydrogen as a fuel. Maybe it's not a good idea to trust that kind of thing to Billy Bob's Truck Stop in the middle of freaking nowhere. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 5:02:17 PM EDT
[#40]
Yeah, it is damn ugly but Musk has already done the impossible a few times so I am sure he knows a lot that I don't.
I doubt I will ever own an electric car. I doubt I will ever own a 1 ton diesel dually too but that doesn't mean nobody else wants one. |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 5:04:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Obviously. You should really talk to Elon, I’m sure he’s tired of waiting on hold. He’s just giddy with all the great ideas you have. Why? Because who actually owns a Thompson and uses it? Because the .45 acp is not known as a particularly powerful round? Because why not use a .22 lr for bragging rights, instead? Because why not use something more ubiquitous, like the 5.56? I dunno. Why not? |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 5:43:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like a bolt on Ferrari kit for a Fierro |
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Posted: 10/20/2023 6:13:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That thing looks like an El Camino fucked a DeLorean Yup. |
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Posted: 10/21/2023 8:11:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2023 8:43:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m sure that means the world to Elon.  However, you didn’t listen to anything He said. He can sell Millions today. And lose money on each one. But, he’s gonna make it up on Volume. No, he said he can sell a small quantity today and lose money on them. It's going to be years until they've made a million. That's exactly the problem he's describing - if they could make a million next year then they'd have no problem being profitable very quickly. This is manufacturing 101. High costs to get started that have to spread across a volume of product in order to be profitable at a reasonable price so you lose money while ramping the production line. |
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Posted: 10/21/2023 8:56:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You’ll spend far far more time at gas stations with your f150 than a tesla truck will. Since your gas station will be at your home. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 5000lb trailer - 300 miles - 30 degrees F That should be the starting standard for any electric truck. Careful not to set the bar too high, my 2500 big 3 truck cant do that...but i can fill it up in 5 minutes or less. You’ll spend far far more time at gas stations with your f150 than a tesla truck will. Since your gas station will be at your home. Exactly. That’s what the GD mouth breathers don’t seem to comprehend, with a Tesla you wake up every morning with a “full tank”. |
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Posted: 10/21/2023 9:04:36 AM EDT
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Wait until the Teamsters start burning and sabotaging entire yards full of their trucks. They think they have supply problems now...
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Posted: 10/21/2023 9:09:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because who actually owns a Thompson and uses it? Because the .45 acp is not known as a particularly powerful round? Because why not use a .22 lr for bragging rights, instead? Because why not use something more ubiquitous, like the 5.56? I dunno. Why not? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Obviously. You should really talk to Elon, I’m sure he’s tired of waiting on hold. He’s just giddy with all the great ideas you have. Why? Because who actually owns a Thompson and uses it? Because the .45 acp is not known as a particularly powerful round? Because why not use a .22 lr for bragging rights, instead? Because why not use something more ubiquitous, like the 5.56? I dunno. Why not? I’m going to guess the truck would be rated about level 3A and maybe not even that. It being slightly armored is a byproduct of using SpaceX stainless. Whatever level armor rating the truck would be, it’s a higher rating than any other major manufacturer has. |
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Posted: 10/21/2023 9:18:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You’ll spend far far more time at gas stations with your f150 than a tesla truck will. Since your gas station will be at your home. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 5000lb trailer - 300 miles - 30 degrees F That should be the starting standard for any electric truck. Careful not to set the bar too high, my 2500 big 3 truck cant do that...but i can fill it up in 5 minutes or less. You’ll spend far far more time at gas stations with your f150 than a tesla truck will. Since your gas station will be at your home. Until you want to pull your camper the nearly 500 miles from Detroit, MI to Lake Superior Provicial Park, Ontario. Then my gas burner will spend under 1/2 hour making gas stops vs the Tesla's ??? hours. I bring this up because it is a typical MI vacation profile. Only 20% of MIs population live N. of US-10. The other 80% of us pull our campers and boats a few hundred miles on a Friday night to go north for vacation. I picked LSSP as my destination because it or something similar in N. Ontario is a common destination for me. |
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Posted: 10/21/2023 9:22:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Until you want to pull your camper the nearly 500 miles from Detroit, MI to Lake Superior Provicial Park, Ontario. Then my gas burner will spend under 1/2 hour making gas stops vs the Tesla's ??? hours. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 5000lb trailer - 300 miles - 30 degrees F That should be the starting standard for any electric truck. Careful not to set the bar too high, my 2500 big 3 truck cant do that...but i can fill it up in 5 minutes or less. You’ll spend far far more time at gas stations with your f150 than a tesla truck will. Since your gas station will be at your home. Until you want to pull your camper the nearly 500 miles from Detroit, MI to Lake Superior Provicial Park, Ontario. Then my gas burner will spend under 1/2 hour making gas stops vs the Tesla's ??? hours. Actual range of the CT hasn’t been published yet. I wouldn’t use the f150 or rivian as the benchmark either. |
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