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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:18:44 PM EDT
[#1]
A drill press?
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:34:40 PM EDT
[#2]
Coming soon to your clown world:
Machine gun:  Machine gun:  Machine gun:  Machine gun:  |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:46:00 PM EDT
[#3]
All for a piece of metal
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:47:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just read that to my GF and she said: "Ill contact you with my dick." Um... |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is total BS, but I also don’t get why the ATF has such a hard on against machine guns. Are they arresting people for having a tick mark on a barrel marking it under 16” and a hacksaw in their garage? It’s the exact same law. They act like turning an AR15 into an MG takes it from a benign target rifle to a nuclear weapon. It’s just silly at this point. If SBRs were no longer able to be registered then yes - I expect the ATF would do precisely that. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:53:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the media is now admitting that AR-15s are *not* machine guns? That’s how I am reading it. If they are making a big deal about someone selling “metal parts” that are needed to “convert” an AR to a machinegun, then it seems extremely clear and unambiguous that an AR cannot be a machinegun by itself. ... I know they will try to make the “easily convertible” argument, that if the logic is that someone has to ship a complicated metal part to me, then it’s obviously NOT easily convertible. Easily convertible means something I can do myself without complicate machine tools. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a leather belt? His finger? Everything is an assault weapon now anyway. Closer to lightning links |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:56:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mega dupe but for those who didn't know, they were metal cards with the parts for a lightning link outlined on them so they could be easily dremeled out. So the book from Paladin Press with machinist scaled drawings is a no no? |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:58:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the book from Paladin Press with machinist scaled drawings is a no no? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mega dupe but for those who didn't know, they were metal cards with the parts for a lightning link outlined on them so they could be easily dremeled out. So the book from Paladin Press with machinist scaled drawings is a no no? Paladin Press no longer exists. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:02:33 PM EDT
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It would be a shame if a bunch of credit card sized bottle openers somehow got randomly distributed across the nation, along with plastic coat hooks and cell phone stands...
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:03:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Paladin Press no longer exists. They live on in the internet. https://issuu.com/sethrexx/docs/ar15lightninglinkplans |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:03:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These stories are generated to push the narrative that AR15s are machine guns. But it proves that they are NOT assault rifles |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:10:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOnly muted at 4x speed, otherwise I get dumber while watching... |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:11:00 PM EDT
[#14]
but to the Dems, illustrations of child porn are perfectly legal so how could... oh wait...
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:14:44 PM EDT
[#15]
Government employees are garbage humans.
Those that volunteer for the ATF, Dea, FBI, EPA are amoung the worse of the worst. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:17:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet government corruption goes unchecked. Huh?? They investigate themselves all the time. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Government employees are garbage humans. Those that volunteer for the ATF, Dea, FBI, EPA are amoung the worse of the worst. That's the high end of human garbage. Wait until you have to deal with the DOT on a regular basis. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:21:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is total BS, but I also don’t get why the ATF has such a hard on against machine guns. Are they arresting people for having a tick mark on a barrel marking it under 16” and a hacksaw in their garage? It’s the exact same law. They act like turning an AR15 into an MG takes it from a benign target rifle to a nuclear weapon. It’s just silly at this point. Again, if you look at it through the lens of communists, every military grade weapon is a threat to their existence and goals. This is why they are hell bent on this. They aren't people, the ATF isn't an organization of Americans. It is an organization filled to the brim with communists. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:21:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can make a functioning origami sift link by folding paper. You don't even need to have the plan on the paper, you just need the paper. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: so if you drew a lighting link on a piece of paper, shit, if you had a PDF of a lighting link, are they saying the PLAN for a machine gun is now a machine gun - just the knowledge? that sure sounds like thought crime to me. Paper is now a machine gun. It is definitely time to burn all books. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:34:18 PM EDT
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Glad I didn't buy one of those things, hell I'd not even heard of them before now, but fuck the ATF with a rusty coat hanger.
When will gun owners finally band together and say enough? We don't need to be violent, but we can put a stop to this bullshit. The left organizes and gathers to stop things they don't like, but we can't be bothered. Soon they will come for this site, and anything and everything you've ever said will be used against us all. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:34:29 PM EDT
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Funny thing is, most ARs over the past 10 years at least use a "full Auto" bolt carrier, and the lightning link won't work in those guns.
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:37:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing is, most ARs over the past 10 years at least use a "full Auto" bolt carrier, and the lightning link won't work in those guns. I don't understand all the terms used on this item but it sounds like only an SP1 bolt carrier works with it. So having one is not a machine gun component. My research is limited to the last hour. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:37:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWe have YouTube shows? Filmed in AZ even? Huhh... didn't know |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:38:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought crime... https://www.ammoland.com/2021/03/autokeycard-com-seized-by-atf-owner-arrested-for-selling-a-drawing/ JACKSONVILLE, FL -(Ammoland.com)- The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) and the United States Postal Inspection Service has arrested a Florida man and seized his websites (autokeycard.com and autokeycards.com) for selling a drawing on a piece of metal. The ATF raided and arrested Kristopher Justin Ervin, 41, of Jacksonville, FL, for manufacturing machine guns. Ervin did not sell or make any firearms. The man sold a credit card-sized piece of metal with an outline of a lightning link. A lightning link is a piece of metal that a user bends to drop into an AR15. When engaged, the lightning link transforms the firearm into a fully automatic machine gun. The ATF recently busted a West Virginia man for selling 3D printed “portal wall hangers” that buyers could use as a drop-in auto sear (DIAS). Ervin sold his product as a novelty. The autokey card did have a drawing of a lightning link on the surface, but it was far from finished. For a person to use the device in a gun, the end-user would have cut out the lightning link and bend the metal before they could use it in an AR15. The owner of the company did not even etch the lightning link on the piece of metal. It was just an outline Ervin took orders from customers via a printable order form that the user would mail into the company with payment (money order or cash). The company then would send out the card to the end-user. The United States Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Florida approved the seizure warrants for the company websites. Since the company did business through the United States Postal Service (USPS), the Postal Inspection Service joined the ATF in the case. The ATF said the company violated 26 U.S.C. §§ 5845, 5861. The statute says it is a violation of federal law to manufacture, receive, transport, and/or deliver a machinegun not registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record. The ATF admits that Ervin did not sell a complete machine gun but did point to 26 U.S.C. §§ 5845(b). Under that subsection, it is illegal to possess “any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun.” The ATF did not buy that Ervin was selling the autokey card as a novelty. The law enforcement agency will probably not extend that defense to gun owners that purchased the auto keycard off the man’s website. The ATF says that anyone who owns an auto keycard purchased from the site violates the National Firearms Act (NFA). The agency will charge anyone busted with the device with a federal felony. Gun owners can face ten years in prison, and a fine of up to $250,000 per device owned. Since most people purchased multiple cards, the penalties could add up and be very costly. The ATF asks anyone who has an autokey card to contact their local ATF office. By contacting the ATF, gun owners are not avoiding prosecution. The ATF does not promise amnesty from charges. AmmoLand News recommends that owners of autokey cards should contact a lawyer before contacting the ATF. One lawyer who specializes in firearms told AmmoLand News off the record that he wouldn’t want to be the prosecutor in the case, but knowing the court system’s makeup, he also would not want to be the one being charged with the crime either. The ATF did not return AmmoLand News’s calls for comment. Why in the hell would anyone be stupid enough to call and report themselves? Just throw the thing away and be done with it, and if they come for you deal with it then. Do you call the cops on yourself every time you speed? |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:40:53 PM EDT
[#25]
Guess I better throw away all my wire coat hangers.
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:42:02 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, if you look at it through the lens of communists, every military grade weapon is a threat to their existence and goals. This is why they are hell bent on this. They aren't people, the ATF isn't an organization of Americans. It is an organization filled to the brim with communists. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:48:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like how a lot of you guys think everyone you disagree with is a communist. Most of them are. Or a socialist. A fascist. Basically someone whose views are bad for America. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:49:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like how a lot of you guys think everyone you disagree with is a communist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Again, if you look at it through the lens of communists, every military grade weapon is a threat to their existence and goals. This is why they are hell bent on this. They aren't people, the ATF isn't an organization of Americans. It is an organization filled to the brim with communists. A lot of communists are communists but don't realize they are communists. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:49:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand all the terms used on this item but it sounds like only an SP1 bolt carrier works with it. So having one is not a machine gun component. My research is limited to the last hour.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:51:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of communists are communists but don't realize they are communists. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:51:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet government corruption goes unchecked. It's ideologically bounded at this point. Laws only matter when they want them to. And don't when they don't want them to. Extrajudicial enforcement against their enemies. No or little enforcement for their 'friends'. It puts the idea of rule of law into the cynical column for politics. the Spiral downward is just beginning. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:53:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Huh?? They investigate themselves all the time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yet government corruption goes unchecked. Huh?? They investigate themselves all the time.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:58:22 PM EDT
[#33]
The ATF asks anyone who has an autokey card to contact their local ATF office. By contacting the ATF, gun owners are not avoiding prosecution. The ATF does not promise amnesty from charges. AmmoLand News recommends that owners of autokey cards should contact a lawyer before contacting the ATF. I'm surprised at the Honesty of the Government. 
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:58:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Why are the only two state names ever in titles Texas and California?
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Posted: 3/14/2021 3:59:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad I didn't buy one of those things, hell I'd not even heard of them before now, but fuck the ATF with a rusty coat hanger. When will gun owners finally band together and say enough? We don't need to be violent, but we can put a stop to this bullshit. The left organizes and gathers to stop things they don't like, but we can't be bothered. Soon they will come for this site, and anything and everything you've ever said will be used against us all. Careful, that could be a machine gun, too! 
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:02:32 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Government employees are garbage humans. Those that volunteer for the ATF, Dea, FBI, EPA are amoung the worse of the worst. Say Billie, what do you want to do when you grow up? I wanna work for the ATF! |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:02:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The ATF does not promise amnesty from charges. This is the fastest and best way to encourage cooperation with the ATF, for sure. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:06:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm surprised at the Honesty of the Government. Quote HistoryQuoted: The ATF asks anyone who has an autokey card to contact their local ATF office. By contacting the ATF, gun owners are not avoiding prosecution. The ATF does not promise amnesty from charges. AmmoLand News recommends that owners of autokey cards should contact a lawyer before contacting the ATF. I'm surprised at the Honesty of the Government. Did they super promise not to go after you for having a "machinegun" if you do?  Don't Talk to the Police |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like how a lot of you guys think everyone you disagree with is a communist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Again, if you look at it through the lens of communists, every military grade weapon is a threat to their existence and goals. This is why they are hell bent on this. They aren't people, the ATF isn't an organization of Americans. It is an organization filled to the brim with communists. Who did you vote for in the last two presidential elections? |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:09:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the high end of human garbage. Wait until you have to deal with the DOT on a regular basis. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Government employees are garbage humans. Those that volunteer for the ATF, Dea, FBI, EPA are amoung the worse of the worst. That's the high end of human garbage. Wait until you have to deal with the DOT on a regular basis. Sorry forgot them. Fruit inspections frw Just doing muh job. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:12:02 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is total BS, but I also don’t get why the ATF has such a hard on against machine guns. It's the only thing they have that makes them a relevant organization. Any organization ever created by government that is redundant and not needed has to constantly strum up shit to make it seem like it's needed. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:13:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a lot of shitty political ideologies that are not communist. For instance, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi could probably best be described as totalitarian technocratic fascists. That is not anywhere close to communism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A lot of communists are communists but don't realize they are communists. They want government control of the means of production and they want redistribution of wealth. That makes them Commies by definition! Being a Commie is not a separate ideology from totalitarianism and fascism. A Communist state (such as the former USSR or China) REQUIRES totalitarianism and fascism. Don't get so hung up on semantics that you can't see the forest for the trees. Also, if someone votes for the current Democrats, they are Commie scum by extension. I won't offer forgiveness because they are too ignorant to realize how far left the Demonrats have shifted. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:13:08 PM EDT
[#43]
It requires a certain personality type and mindset to want to be a BATF Agent.
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:18:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a lot of shitty political ideologies that are not communist. For instance, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi could probably best be described as totalitarian technocratic fascists. That is not anywhere close to communism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A lot of communists are communists but don't realize they are communists. Seems like "communist" is a blanket term used by Gen X'ers who grew up watching Rambo movies, present company included. Rarely, very rarely is it anything but a theory and is always fascistic in it's implementation. Makes you wonder if true communism is even the real objective. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:19:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:22:02 PM EDT
[#46]
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Anyone else remember Catco steel tubes with bonded on sten mk II, III, or V templates? . |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:24:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a lot of shitty political ideologies that are not communist. For instance, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi could probably best be described as totalitarian technocratic fascists. That is not anywhere close to communism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A lot of communists are communists but don't realize they are communists. Big .gov bureaucratic statism transcends ideology. It survives. Even in the French revolution. It's all about the leverage and control. Ideology is just a tool to that end. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:31:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like "communist" is a blanket term used by Gen X'ers who grew up watching Rambo movies, present company included. Rarely, very rarely is it anything but a theory and is always fascistic in it's implementation. Makes you wonder if true communism is even the real objective. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:33:33 PM EDT
[#49]
This is the Autokey card arrest.
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Posted: 3/14/2021 4:35:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Damn. Shoulda bought one when I had the chance.
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