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Posted: 6/12/2020 5:59:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Wow that is pretty cool. I can't even imagine how much that would cost Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By mp41: Love the look of those Messerschmidt's. 109 instruments + panel (Sadly not mine) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/109-1_jpg-1457954.JPG Wow that is pretty cool. I can't even imagine how much that would cost My best guess depending on this and that is probably between 5-10k for what you see. No free loading  Attached File17,000.. |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 6:41:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt_sporter: My best guess depending on this and that is probably between 5-10k for what you see. No free loading https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/A8B0ABA0-301C-4B11-BA29-4F3AFA5926CC_jpe-1458989.JPG 17,000.. You could have owned the page    Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 7:03:34 PM EDT
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Captured P-47
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Posted: 6/12/2020 7:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: It is crazy how much those gauges go for. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/fw1-An-American-officer-is-photographed--1458052.JPG Yep. The gauges as well as well as practically any parts are high priced. If only they had saved more of the planes etc.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 7:20:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Wow that is pretty cool. I can't even imagine how much that would cost Yep. I would love to have a mock up of that panel with simulated instruments just to hang on the wall.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 9:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp41: Yep. The gauges as well as well as practically any parts are high priced. If only they had saved more of the planes etc. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/Panther-kaput-France-1_jpg-1459072.JPG There are a bunch of fakes on fleabay, but there are also people selling reproductions labeled as so. That said it would still be shocking how much a complete panel would be. The WW2 generation are almost gone, and their kids are inheriting piles of stuff they do not know what to do with. Lots of it will probably end up in the trash.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 10:55:46 PM EDT
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Preliminary P-38 Lightning concepts:
  Ski landing gear prototype:   It was determined that a proposed floatplane variant would require the tail booms to be bent upwards to stay out of the water on takeoff, this was tested on a plane with conventional gear:   Th 5,000th Lightning got a sweet paint job   After a brief publicity tour YIPPEE was given a regulation paint job and served in a fighter squadron in the Pacific theater. |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 11:17:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Dammit pay attention! We've already got the decals  Thanks for looking out though! I appreciate it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By JQ66: @Dog1 You don’t need to go to such measures. Decals are available https://www.ebay.com/c/664558104 Also in 1/72 and 1/48 it looks like. By Peddinghaus. I knew they made WWII armor decals Dammit pay attention! We've already got the decals Thanks for looking out though! I appreciate it That’s what happens when you pick up a month behind on a subscribed thread. Oh well, I found something else I have to get on eBay , too. |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 11:38:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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Jeep propelled target:
 Another view of the Waller gunnery trainer:  The Waller was extremely sophisticated (right click and open in new tab to zoom):  Dome trainer:  Original dome preserved at RAF Langham:  RB-24L, a B-29 gunnery trainer using a much cheaper and more available aircraft:  |
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Posted: 6/12/2020 11:58:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2020 2:25:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp41: Yep. I would love to have a mock up of that panel with simulated instruments just to hang on the wall. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/tumblr_lrw0mawgl91qcytdro1_500_jpg-1459077.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp41: Originally Posted By Dog1: Wow that is pretty cool. I can't even imagine how much that would cost Yep. I would love to have a mock up of that panel with simulated instruments just to hang on the wall. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/227797/tumblr_lrw0mawgl91qcytdro1_500_jpg-1459077.JPG Depending on your crafty-ness level, the company Eduard from the CZ makes a 1/4 model of the 109 and 110 instrument panels. I don’t believe they are still in production, but you can probably still snag one off eBay. I have both, but some day I really need to build the 1/1 scale kit I have if the K-13 control stick. It was a very limited production...only 150 made, but cheaper than buying a real one.  Attached FileAnd just because:  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 2:58:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Captain Alexander Marinesko of Soviet submarine S-13. Marinesko was ejected from the Communist Party for alcoholism, nearly court martialed for desertion after disappearing for a few days with a Finnish woman, caught lying about his kill claims, and was looking forward to a court martial for alcoholism when he got back from patrol: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1bd9ed9986740b633dc5e5a3388bacd1 S-13: https://uboat.net/media/allies/warships/sj/ss_ussr_s-13.jpg The Kriegsmarine evacuated 2 million Germans from Courland and East Prussia in Operation Hannibal after the Soviets cut off the region. Marinesko sunk the liner Wilhelm Gustloff on 30 January 1945 killing an estimated 9,400 people, the greatest single maritime disaster in history. She was armed, not marked as a hospital ship, and some of the passengers were healthy soldiers being redeployed, so she was fair game. https://unbelievable-facts.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Wilhelm-Gustloff.jpg 10 February 1945 Marinesko sank SS General von Steuben, also an armed transport carrying a mix of soldiers and refugees. About 4,000 killed: https://vikinglifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/8bc9b-stabswachedeeuros.jpg?w=640&h=360 Although the most successful Soviet submarine commander of the war, even for Russia Marinesko was too drunk and surly to be a Hero of the Soviet Union and was awarded the lesser Order of the Red Banner instead. Insulted, Marinesko ordered S-13 to dive when staff officers tried to board her for the presentation. On his next patrol he stayed perma-drunk and S-13 failed to engage the enemy. Marinesko was downgraded in rank to lieutenant and dishonorably discharged in October 1945. Nice try Boris. The Gustlov was marked as a refugee/transport ship and was only armed with a pitiful few AA guns before they were stripped. And yes, it was marked with red cross markings. And no, it wasn't carrying "armed soldiers to continue the war", it was full of refugees.  Attached FileSinking the Lusitania was more justified as it was carrying [confirmed] armaments to the allies than some drunk, retarded failure of a Soviet sub commander. |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:25:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:25:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:26:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:38:46 PM EDT
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Me-410V-1 (serial number 425416) with an experimental six-tube drum launcher for 210 mm WGR unguided missiles. As a result of launches on February 3, 1944, the fuselage of the aircraft received serious damage.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:40:15 PM EDT
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Italians invade Corscia:
 Italian armor shows its might in Bastia:  During a lull in the fighting, ictorious Italian soldiers websurfing on their I-Phone 10: 
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:46:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50: Italians invade Corscia: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9a/73/d3/9a73d34dd435730da26e37cc1fa1cb5e.jpg Italian armor shows its might in Bastia: http://i46.servimg.com/u/f46/17/26/13/25/corsic11.jpg During a lull in the fighting, ictorious Italian soldiers websurfing on their I-Phone 10: https://digilander.libero.it/lacorsainfinita/guerra2/43/corsica11.jpg Are those tire chains on the front? |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:48:04 PM EDT
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Zerstorer Me-410B-l / U-2 / R-5 with a container And B-151 A (four 20-mm guns MG-151) in the bomb bay. It was also possible to put an additional pair of 7.9 mm machine guns directly above the weapons compartment on the plane.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:52:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 13starsinax]
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Lieutenant Venka starts the engine on his Me-410V-1 / U-2 / R-4 before the next combat flight to intercept American bombers. A pair of 20-mm cannons was put in the bomb bay, another pair of the same artillery pieces was under the fuselage.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 1:56:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/pic_131_jpg-1460026.JPG That thing just looks mean |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 2:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Are those tire chains on the front? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By 4v50: Italians invade Corscia: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9a/73/d3/9a73d34dd435730da26e37cc1fa1cb5e.jpg Italian armor shows its might in Bastia: http://i46.servimg.com/u/f46/17/26/13/25/corsic11.jpg During a lull in the fighting, ictorious Italian soldiers websurfing on their I-Phone 10: https://digilander.libero.it/lacorsainfinita/guerra2/43/corsica11.jpg Are those tire chains on the front? Yep. Me-323  Ram Armored Division 
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Posted: 6/13/2020 2:08:09 PM EDT
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I don't know if this was colorised, but it looks just like the identification painting on the bows of Italian ships.
 See the Littorio class battleship: 
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Posted: 6/13/2020 2:17:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: That thing just looks mean That it does. It probably would have been great at low, and intermediate heights. They were severely under powered at the altitude of the B-17 streams. For a very honest opinionated pilots version that I stumbled into- https://www.amazon.com/Luftwaffe-Bomber-Pilot-Remembers-Schiffer/dp/0764313932 Klaus Haberlen He was a commander with Kg-51, and relieved of his command after telling Goering the failings of the Me-410, and that he did not believe the propaganda anymore. |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 5:41:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2020 6:09:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt_sporter: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/C0BED690-5C7B-4066-8B49-5330324692F4_jpe-1460326.JPG The Ju-88 did everything. Nice, I do not remember that image.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 6:48:24 PM EDT
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Original Wolverine!
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Posted: 6/15/2020 12:54:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt_sporter: Depending on your crafty-ness level, the company Eduard from the CZ makes a 1/4 model of the 109 and 110 instrument panels. I don’t believe they are still in production, but you can probably still snag one off eBay. I have both, but some day I really need to build the 1/1 scale kit I have if the K-13 control stick. It was a very limited production...only 150 made, but cheaper than buying a real one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/27CDDBF7-35AB-480F-B54D-EE0735F2565F_jpe-1459623.JPG And just because: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/F6B008C1-D289-419E-9D22-B5DB9EA0CAA4_jpe-1459625.JPG Oh now that model kit is just plain (plane?) cool! This might be a re-post of this picture but, its too detailed to not post it again?  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 1:26:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2020 1:29:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2020 1:33:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2020 2:33:26 PM EDT
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The F-82 flew for the first time on 6-15-1945. It was the last piston-engined fighter.
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Posted: 6/15/2020 2:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gopher: The F-82 flew for the first time on 6-15-1945. It was the last piston-engined fighter. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/P-82_jpg-1462782.JPG THANKS. Some more info; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 3:01:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gopher: The F-82 flew for the first time on 6-15-1945. It was the last piston-engined fighter. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/P-82_jpg-1462782.JPG My Uncle Ron has over 40 hours in the F82. He flew interceptors in Korea. Here he is in his F84.  Regia Marina (Royal Navy) 
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Posted: 6/15/2020 3:01:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hdhogman: THANKS. Some more info; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang One currently airworthy.  XP-82 Twin Mustang Flybys - EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2019 |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 3:47:11 PM EDT
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@GOPHER, Sounds Great!
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Posted: 6/15/2020 9:44:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hdhogman: @GOPHER, Sounds Great! I witnessed the P-51 Strega win a pylon race about 20 years ago as it crossed the finish line at 500+ mph about 50 ft off the deck. It was one of the most awesome things I have ever witnessed. Something like this. I was close enough to see and feel it.  P-51 'Voodoo' at nearly 500 MPH -CAUTION-MAY BLOW SPEAKERS! |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 9:56:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:14:05 PM EDT
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In case anybody has MGM movies the Battle of Britain is coming on
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Posted: 6/15/2020 11:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: He-111 and Henschel Hs-293 guided bomb https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/43372/main-qimg-5ef81c217742fc30abe5fa4384c9ec-1463316.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: He-111 and Henschel Hs-293 guided bomb https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/43372/main-qimg-5ef81c217742fc30abe5fa4384c9ec-1463316.JPG It is amazing the WW2 tech, and how fast it happened. Pilots and gunners shove BMW convertible Lieutenant Gath, in the background - two Me-410 from the headquarters of I / ZG-26.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 11:11:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: In case anybody has MGM movies the Battle of Britain is coming on https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/unnamed-1463347.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/Heinkel_He_111_during_the_Battle_of_Brit-1463348.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1: In case anybody has MGM movies the Battle of Britain is coming on https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/unnamed-1463347.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9749/Heinkel_He_111_during_the_Battle_of_Brit-1463348.jpg taka taka taka The emblem of the unit is painted on the hood of the right Daimler-Benz engine of the Me-410 aircraft from I / ZG-26. The screw cook is painted black, the spiral on the cook is painted with yellow paint. In the center is the ZG-26 Geshwaderkommodor Major Hans Cogler.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/16/2020 9:32:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: It is amazing the WW2 tech, and how fast it happened. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/pic_148_jpg-1463435.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: Originally Posted By cyclone: He-111 and Henschel Hs-293 guided bomb https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/43372/main-qimg-5ef81c217742fc30abe5fa4384c9ec-1463316.JPG It is amazing the WW2 tech, and how fast it happened. Pilots and gunners shove BMW convertible Lieutenant Gath, in the background - two Me-410 from the headquarters of I / ZG-26. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/303716/pic_148_jpg-1463435.JPG Yep...………...and I am going to build a 111 and an 88 with those air to ground weapons sometime soon...………….after all these tanks are built |
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Posted: 6/16/2020 11:25:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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The War Production Board initially considered ordering the smaller auto manufacturers to build a single unified model of a stripped down "victory car" for civilian purchase while the big companies cranked out the military vehicles. Soy-based plastic body panels got some consideration to replace strategic materials.
  The hood may be made from a plastic panel, but it appears the rest of it is actually an unmodified Renault Juvaquatre, which had to be fairly rare in California. And installing rebuilt motors of every description into one body & frame design is obviously a nightmare. As a victory car proposal this smells like BS to me, by the reporter or the inventor. At best it's a proof of concept for one body panel. Renault: |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 2:02:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2020 5:52:16 PM EDT
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I think it's the Hipper or Prinz Eugen. The silhouettes are very similar but on the Tirpitz it has an amidship catapult.
Here's Prinz Eugen 
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Posted: 6/17/2020 6:10:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2020 6:12:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2020 7:10:25 PM EDT
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