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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:04:52 PM EDT
[#1]
full size? like this?
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:05:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, they obviously haven't, because they'll still be in regular use in 2071. https://i.imgur.com/7i0S2AC.jpg Bang. @MVolk  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:09:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Tell me how many competition shooters are using small frame pistols. maybe it's just me, but i immediately get turned off when someone mentions "but competitive shooters do it" |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope Full size guns are easier to shoot well. I agree. I don't own any compacts and don't want them. |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:14:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For you. I qualify w a G26 and they shake their heads at my upper 90s scores while they struggle. I shoot it better than my G17. Ergonomics. Look it up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nope Full size guns are easier to shoot well. @cinco1 What do you mean by ergonomics that makes you shoot a 26 better than a 17? I have huge hands, and a range trip with a buddies 26 lead me to realize I shoot it terribly as I basically have two fingers on the grip. Would be interested to hear what makes you shoot the tiny G better than the full sized one. |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:16:02 PM EDT
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The longer barrels are going by the wayside as optics catch on and bullet velocity is largely unimportant past compact barrel lengths.
That’s why the 19x was so popular despite the “long barrel short grip” autistic screeching |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:17:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Full size 1911, g17, or g34 if Im not carrying my 340pd.....
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:24:11 PM EDT
[#8]
Full size makes quite bit of sense with a WML:
 Whereas this is an abomination: 
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:26:12 PM EDT
[#9]
noooo. that G40 looks pretty big when it comes out IWB.
try to rob me nope |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:31:40 PM EDT
[#10]
Not in the least bit obsolete, but I'm wondering with Shield arms making flush 15 round mags for the 43x, how many other pistols can actually increase their capacity? Would bet nice for a g17 with a flush 20+ round mag, or VP9....
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:32:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Not in my world.
I prefer full sized handguns! |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:33:53 PM EDT
[#12]
Where the hell do you people come up with retarded questions like this?
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:46:47 PM EDT
[#13]
No...but
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:48:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Not for me. I regularly edc a Beretta 92SF.
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:50:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah. I'd bet most handguns aren't ever carried, and you can conceal a full-size. It takes a little more work, but it can be done. I keep meaning to buy a compact pistol to try one out, but just end up buying another steel frame full-size gun. The only compact pistols I own are ancient .32s and .380s. I don't know why people think fullsize guns are obsolete. Most of the small compact guns you see have extendo pads that makes them about the same grip size as a G19 or P228. The grip is the part that is harder to hide and everyone sticks something on the end of the mags to get the same number of rounds in what amounts to a full size gun. |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:51:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: With the prevalence of high capacity micro 9s and CCW, have full size handguns become obsolete? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1504/g21_jpg-1917729.JPG |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:51:38 PM EDT
[#17]
No, not at all.
There was a brief surge of small pistols during the so-called "assault weapons ban" of the 90s due to standard cap mags being expensive. Now? No way. There's a niche for the subcompact guns, they will never overtake full/midsized handguns without another mag capacity ban.  
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:52:13 PM EDT
[#18]
No they haven’t. Doubt you’ll ever see anything but full sized in police and military holsters.
(I consider the M18 full sized) |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 10:53:44 PM EDT
[#19]
Define full size.
Handguns with 5"+ barrels are definitely obsolete, as the USMC adoption of the M18 over the M17 demonstrates. But if you're declaring everything larger than a Sig P365 or Glock obsolete then you're just being silly. |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:00:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:01:06 PM EDT
[#21]
Not for me. I'm an oddball by GD standards, but I love my Beretta 92s and they conceal just fine in a Milt Sparks VM2.
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:05:48 PM EDT
[#22]
micro 9s work for manlets.
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:11:30 PM EDT
[#23]
For some reason, I cannot shoot a G19 quite as well as I can shoot a G17. I suppose the extra 12 mm of length could help site radius. But I'd be lying if I said I understood the site radius argument to begin with.
In any event, there's still an argument for full-size guns out in the wild. I am referring specifically to the G20 and G40. Truth be told, I don't understand the rationale for the G29's existence at all. |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:40:01 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course not. To me it's not just a question of capacity. As I get older the smaller guns are harder to shoot. I have no reason to stop carrying my G19. |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:43:48 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where the hell do you people come up with retarded questions like this? Smaller pistols are easier to carry on WW2 subs. 
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:46:36 PM EDT
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Quoted: With the prevalence of high capacity micro 9s and CCW, have full size handguns become obsolete? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1504/g21_jpg-1917729.JPG Most people do what they think is "popular" and that includes what guns to buy, shoot, and carry. |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:48:47 PM EDT
[#27]
No never will little gun harder to shoot.
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:50:05 PM EDT
[#28]
For work (plainclothes LE) I prefer my G34 in cooler months and G19 in the summer
Off duty it’s usually a G43X or G48 |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:50:43 PM EDT
[#29]
I don't know about obsolete but they're not popular and don't appear to have been for a while.
Take the Glock 19 for example, I'd be interested to know how many if those sell vs the 17. I think the pistols that really caused the subcompact CCW gun market to explode though were the S&W Shield and Sig 365 |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:51:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: not really "full size" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Of course not. To me it's not just a question of capacity. As I get older the smaller guns are harder to shoot. I have no reason to stop carrying my G19. Fine, I will add my G17 and full size P320 that I also carry. Feel better now? 
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:54:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Smaller pistols are easier to carry on WW2 subs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Where the hell do you people come up with retarded questions like this? Smaller pistols are easier to carry on WW2 subs. Sensible chuckle |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:56:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @cinco1 What do you mean by ergonomics that makes you shoot a 26 better than a 17? I have huge hands, and a range trip with a buddies 26 lead me to realize I shoot it terribly as I basically have two fingers on the grip. Would be interested to hear what makes you shoot the tiny G better than the full sized one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nope Full size guns are easier to shoot well. @cinco1 What do you mean by ergonomics that makes you shoot a 26 better than a 17? I have huge hands, and a range trip with a buddies 26 lead me to realize I shoot it terribly as I basically have two fingers on the grip. Would be interested to hear what makes you shoot the tiny G better than the full sized one. |
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Posted: 4/24/2021 11:58:41 PM EDT
[#33]
Why? During the winter time I can conceal a full size USP45.
Summer? A 1911 Government. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 2:59:47 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Micro 9s are just another fad. I def would not call them a fad but a clear next step after the shield broke the barrier. They still won't replace g19 size guns. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:23:22 AM EDT
[#35]
Hell no. I prefer carrying a full size and do most of the time. I downsize to compact or micro if needed for attire, but I can be a lot more effective and put more rounds on target faster with a P-09 and 22 rounds on tap than I can be with my Hellcat.
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:23:44 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: maybe it's just me, but i immediately get turned off when someone mentions "but competitive shooters do it" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No. Tell me how many competition shooters are using small frame pistols. maybe it's just me, but i immediately get turned off when someone mentions "but competitive shooters do it" You're not alone. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:26:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope Full size guns are easier to shoot well. Ooh! That’s a bingo! |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:29:47 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Handguns with 5"+ barrels are definitely obsolete, as the USMC adoption of the M18 over the M17 demonstrates.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:36:31 AM EDT
[#39]
No. I only carry full size service pistols. Buy quality gear. Gunbelt, proper holster and mag pouch.
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:38:17 AM EDT
[#40]
No they aren't obsolete.
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:45:12 AM EDT
[#41]
my edc carry gun is my glock 34, I do have a glock 26, but I hardly ever use it.
I just prefer full size pistols. Plan on getting a long slide to put on my polymer 80 and it will probably become my EDC. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:45:13 AM EDT
[#42]
Fullsize pistols are CCW pistols, with a good belt and holster and some trial and error.
 You can even conceal fullsize pistols with WMLs, RDS, comps, magwells, and mag extensions.  Even admittedly ridiculous modified fullsize pistols. Yes, that monstrosity was intended, built, and is currently used as a concealed EDC gun. For reference I’m 5’10” and 150lbs at most, and it still disappears. Just have to know what you’re doing and be willing to try a few different things before you settle on what works for you |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:47:32 AM EDT
[#43]
To me my G43X is a defense pistol and my M9A3 is a fighting pistol.
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:54:15 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryHow do you like the Staccato pistols? Been on my list for a while, but always something else to buy. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:57:47 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fixed |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 3:59:41 AM EDT
[#46]
I can shoot any of my semiautos from LCP, XDS, G26, G19, G30, G30S, P14-45 well enough to defend myself, but as far as comfort, second shot accuracy, and overall confidence the 17 round VP9 is my best carry gun. I’m still getting used to using the optic.
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Posted: 4/25/2021 7:00:03 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For you. I qualify w a G26 and they shake their heads at my upper 90s scores while they struggle. I shoot it better than my G17. Ergonomics. Look it up. My compact is a G26 Yes, it is an anomaly. |
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Posted: 4/25/2021 7:11:33 AM EDT
[#48]
No, but I've never seen the need to EDC one....My old Colt Cobra does just fine in that role.
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Posted: 4/25/2021 7:43:49 AM EDT
[#49]
No. Longer sight radius, more weight out front to counter recoil, and the ballistic advantages of a longer barrel are all reasons to have a full size. No reason to go smaller for a nightstand gun, duty pistol, or one that will be open carried.
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Posted: 4/25/2021 7:47:05 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My compact is a G26 Yes, it is an anomaly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For you. I qualify w a G26 and they shake their heads at my upper 90s scores while they struggle. I shoot it better than my G17. Ergonomics. Look it up. My compact is a G26 Yes, it is an anomaly. g26 is a subcompact |
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