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Posted: 11/26/2023 5:34:34 PM EDT
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Salt water crocs exist in all equatorial regions.
 
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Posted: 11/26/2023 5:41:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read a really good book years ago that was similar to that. Leviathan I think? Lots of books named that, I couldn't find what I read. Synopsis is a company creates a dragon on an island, dragon gets loose, main character is the site electrician. It had a green cover.  Edit- here it is. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/leviathan_james-byron-huggins/393313/?resultid=ce26ce42-16a4-4d2e-943c-41527dbbbf46#edition=1604200&idiq=1491572 Two bucks on Kindle... |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 5:45:32 PM EDT
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I am only interested in reading theories that they are real or were real.
If anyone has any schitzo links I'd love to see them |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 6:54:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dragons were real and then the universe was reset creating the myth. This. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 6:57:02 PM EDT
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On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology. The phlebotomists don't want you to know that. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:04:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm. Two bucks on Kindle... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I read a really good book years ago that was similar to that. Leviathan I think? Lots of books named that, I couldn't find what I read. Synopsis is a company creates a dragon on an island, dragon gets loose, main character is the site electrician. It had a green cover. Edit- here it is. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/leviathan_james-byron-huggins/393313/?resultid=ce26ce42-16a4-4d2e-943c-41527dbbbf46#edition=1604200&idiq=1491572 Two bucks on Kindle... It's been a while but I remember enjoying it. There's a pretty heavy spiritual theme as it goes along. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:11:27 PM EDT
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Mythology of dragons? NO culture that i know of has. Dragons in Europe are a result of fantasy writing.
Now, symbols of something, like the Chinese and Japanese, representing certain (religious) spirits, yes. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:39:06 PM EDT
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Remember seeing this as a kid. Always fascinated me.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:48:08 PM EDT
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One could ask the same question re: god, angels, wild men/Samsquatch, shapeshifting werewolves, witches, etc, etc, etc…..
Why do some gods need human sacrifice? Hell, even god of the Old Testament wanted burnt offerings. Cain & Abel were doing that. Why did ancient Greeks think the “soul” resided in the liver? The Human Condition is odd…. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:58:14 PM EDT
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Same reason people invented stories about God(s), needed a captivating campfire tale. Didn’t have the Tok to keep ‘‘em entertained back then.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 7:59:55 PM EDT
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It’s easy to imagine a giant lizard that can fly.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:04:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One could ask the same question re: god, angels, wild men/Samsquatch, shapeshifting werewolves, witches, etc, etc, etc….. Why do some gods need human sacrifice? Hell, even god of the Old Testament wanted burnt offerings. Cain & Abel were doing that. Why did ancient Greeks think the “soul” resided in the liver? The Human Condition is odd…. I passed over a podcast about how cultures around the globe independently used white for wedding dresses. I thought "interesting if true, but just don't care" |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:37:50 PM EDT
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They all smoked the same shit at one time and since the brain is wired everywhere the same it came up with the same fantasy vision.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 8:40:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology. India being one of the oldest......lots of folklore about the Vetala |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:05:59 PM EDT
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Combination of dinosaur fossils and large monitor lizards.
Very slim chance of a couple dinosaurs or something similar living long enough to be seen, maybe even hunted, by humans, and some more mythology grew out of that. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:23:30 PM EDT
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Creganford has a channel that specializes in Proto-Indo-European roots of ancient mythologies.
 Fighting Dragons: A Comparative Mythology |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:30:52 PM EDT
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When people ask questions like this I like to reserve part of my brain to think "Maybe, just maybe they were exactly as described and existed."
Not much though, you'd think some king would have a sweet passed down dragon head or something |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:35:45 PM EDT
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Someone long ago found a fossil pterodactyl and, well, that was that.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:38:33 PM EDT
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How do you explain the myth of god/gods across human cultures?
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:39:24 PM EDT
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People traveled, talked, and drew pictures.
I'm fairly convinced we have deeply buried memories from far prehistoric times when a dinosaur chased us. They emerge when we're toddlers, then get reburied about age 5. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:40:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been wondering why dragons don’t have balls. You would think a creature that can breath fire would have a huge set of gonads but nope, no balls. Think how different Pete’s Dragon would have been? Or how cool it would have been if Bard shot Smaug in the dick instead of some stupid missing scale? It would have been high fives and beers for life for Bard and everyone would be like, that was so cool when you shot Smaug in the junk but noooooo. Reptiles don't have scrotums |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:46:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology. Like the Jiangshi. Stories of corporeal and incorporeal spirits are so common. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People found fossil bones of dinosaurs, mammoths and so on... and interpreted them the best they could. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:52:02 PM EDT
[#25]
Stories/folklore travel. Same reason we have similar stories throughout many regions/races.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:53:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: Well? We've got great big lizards today. And we ain't the only generation of humanity to have discovered fossils. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 9:59:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:02:24 PM EDT
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Haven't thought of this topic.
Mainly because I cant remember the last time I discussed dragons with anyone. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:02:41 PM EDT
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Dragons are winged serpents like the Chinese version - long snake like bodies and large wings. Western culture made them big fat mofos with small wings.
Symbols of the winged serpent go back to Sumerian culture and Mesoamerica. It represented their highest god who came to earth with other gods to teach humanity forbidden knowledge. Ancient aliens stuff has the winged serpent all being the same "God" but under different names like Enki, Thoth, Quetzalcoatl, Viracocha, Kukulkan. The biblical reference would be Lucifer. The ruins of Puma Punku have an arch (Gate of the Sun) that depicts the arrival of Veracocha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_of_the_Sun |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:16:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Maybe stories handed down and embellished from the encounter between Eve and the flying serpent in the Garden of Eden.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 10:25:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What film is this I need to watch it… @DistanceX Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fire-breathing motherfuckers. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/340401/OIG__8__jpeg-3040457.JPG What film is this I need to watch it… @DistanceX Rulons meet the Borg. A ChatGPT exclusive.
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:05:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dunno, but it would be badass if Smaug was real. What round for Smaug? Ask Bard. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:12:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do any of the tribes/people from the Americas have dragon stories (pre-Columbus)? I think it is an eastern hemisphere thing. American indians did find fossil bones, and came up with stories about the creatures they came from, the same as the Europeans and Asians. Here's a book about the subject: Fossil Legends of the First Americans by Adrienne Mayor https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691130493?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:38:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People found fossil bones of dinosaurs, mammoths and so on... and interpreted them the best they could. This. We've been doing quarries and mines for a few thousand years. Someone dug sonething up and tried to wrap their minds around it. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If flying dragons were real, they'd have thin hollow bones which wouldn't fossilize easily. The discovery of Dinosaur fossils didn't happen until the 1800's, dragons have been portrayed for hundreds if not thousands of years prior, and in parts of the world where dinosaur fossils aren't found. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People found fossil bones of dinosaurs, mammoths and so on... and interpreted them the best they could. And if they were in fact fire breathing they likely had an acidic mixture within their circulatory system, meaning when they died their structure could more easily dissolve. |
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Posted: 11/26/2023 11:50:09 PM EDT
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Adrienne Mayor wrote another book on this topic: "The First Fossil Hunters: Dinosaurs, Mammoths, and Myth in Greek and Roman Times."
I read it some years ago... it turns out that it was common for giant fossil bones (such as mammoth or wooly rhino) to be thought to be the bones of giants and heros of ancient times... some were installed in temples! Here is a Greek vase depicting a legend of Homer, of the "Monster of Troy".... Notice the monster is a skull sticking out of a cliff face! 
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Posted: 11/27/2023 10:22:01 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Adrienne Mayor wrote another book on this topic: "The First Fossil Hunters: Dinosaurs, Mammoths, and Myth in Greek and Roman Times." I read it some years ago... it turns out that it was common for giant fossil bones (such as mammoth or wooly rhino) to be thought to be the bones of giants and heros of ancient times... some were installed in temples! Here is a Greek vase depicting a legend of Homer, of the "Monster of Troy".... Notice the monster is a skull sticking out of a cliff face! https://i.stack.imgur.com/SUFoB.jpg There's a number of European Churches that display Dragon or Giant bones still. It was a more common practice in the early church, with Dragon bones flanking the entry or installed in the Narthex, or sometimes behind the alter. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 1:33:10 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the Chinese dragon is related to meteors/fireballs. Maybe they all are. Fossils too. Seems weird people would think mammoths were cyclops since we hunted them for millennia. Sea level has risen about 100 meters since the last glacial maximum, with many rapid events along the way. The biggest one was at the beginning of the holocene. There's reason to believe that one started off with a sudden event like an ocean strike and is likely the original source of the global flood stories. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why European dragons have wings and the Oriental ones don't, even though they can also fly? I think the Chinese dragon is related to meteors/fireballs. Maybe they all are. Fossils too. Seems weird people would think mammoths were cyclops since we hunted them for millennia. Quoted: Epic flood stories are fairly universal across many cultures all over the world too. AJ mentions this a lot on The Why Files podcasts. These are either stories that have staying power due to some sort of psychological uniformity in humans, or something made a huge impact on everybody all over the world to the point it's still talked about. Sea level has risen about 100 meters since the last glacial maximum, with many rapid events along the way. The biggest one was at the beginning of the holocene. There's reason to believe that one started off with a sudden event like an ocean strike and is likely the original source of the global flood stories. I did not know about meteorites. Don't Chinese link dragons to snakes in their mythology? The big floods theory is interesting. Here in the NW there was a very large event millennia ago when a large ice dam broke out and released the waters of a massive lake behind it. The very large stream flowed towards the Pacific Ocean and wrecked havoc in its path. That was only found out recently when satellite and aerial photos showed the ripple-like formations left by water flowing at high speeds that look like hills if observed from the ground. The same way it happened here, it likely also happened elsewhere and folklore did the rest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods How many species went extinct during our recorded History? How many likely also disappeared before it and were only recorded in tales and bedtime stories? Dragons might have been one of those and got a bit fantasized over time. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 1:37:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology. And some recent medical research show how young people's blood help curing some disease and can even prolong life. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 1:45:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s easy to imagine a giant lizard that can fly. My mother used to say that "God won't give wings to the snakes."  |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 1:51:34 PM EDT
[#41]
My bosses husband was a mythology professor researching this. He died.
There is a lot of evolutionary drive behind the fear of snakes/reptiles and birds. This ingrained fear also makes for compelling storytelling. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 1:56:22 PM EDT
[#42]
People found fossils of dinosaurs like the t-Rex and made up stories to match those giant teeth.
Pretty easy to figure out. China has more dragon stories and guess what more fossils. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 2:00:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Most of the important religious structures in ancient Greece had at least one or two dinosaur or mastodon bones buried underneath their foundations. "titans"
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Posted: 12/16/2023 2:10:04 PM EDT
[#44]
Easy. They’re all Godzilla fans.
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Posted: 12/16/2023 2:19:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am only interested in reading theories that they are real or were real. Clearly the myth is due to a 1970's era pair of planes that appeared out of a time warp during the Battle of Syracuse in 212BC and then just as magically disappeared. The telling and retelling of this occurrence over the ages morphed them into dragons. I have video proof... |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 5:01:36 PM EDT
[#46]
Wadi Al-Hitan gives some insight.
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Posted: 12/16/2023 6:09:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2023 6:37:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology. I'm not a big mythology guy, where they all portrayed as blood suckers? |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 9:43:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not a big mythology guy, where they all portrayed as blood suckers? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology. I'm not a big mythology guy, where they all portrayed as blood suckers? We call them insurance agents today. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 9:46:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My bosses husband was a mythology professor researching this. He died. There is a lot of evolutionary drive behind the fear of snakes/reptiles and birds. This ingrained fear also makes for compelling storytelling. People fear snakes because they don't want to get bit. Evolutionary fear of birds? |
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