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Originally Posted By Hunter8282: How are they still launching rockets? View Quote Because they have a lot of them. Almost all of these rockets are essentially scaled up fireworks or the Estes model rockets you can buy at hobby stores. With an hours worth of training, you can make these things in your garage. Especially since quality control or safety isn’t a priority. You can store dozens of them in your kitchen pantry and launch them from a single length of angle iron you lean up against anything. And this is happening. You also have the reality that many are launched from hospitals, schools and mosques. |
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Unfortunately for everyone, the so-called "Masters of the Universe" took the wrong lessons from the fall of the Berlin Wall. There were essentially two schools of thought on how things would pan out; for simplicities sake (therefore risking gross simplification), the "Fukuyama" school and the "Huntington" school. Francis Fukuyama wrote the famous essay "The End of History and the Last Man" in which he posited that all of the major historical issues had all been settled by the fall of Communism, that every major question had more-or-less been settled, that the world would be governed by some form of liberal democracy and all of the economics would be capitalistic. With no "Big Questions" left to settle, Fukuyama feared that people would become Nietzsche's "Last Man"; not really concerned with any big issues and consumed by mediocrity. Well, to the folks who were large and in charge, a world of sheep-like consumers with them in the role of the " bermensch" leadership, divorced from Christian concepts of morality, and power being the end in itself, to rule them seemed optimal. Therefore, allowing all of these radical movements "space to destroy" over relatively trivial issues was actually seen by them as a way to distract the disaffected from major issues by slowly coopting them into the Last Man "Borg" while in the interim using them as a wedge to keep the majority of the Borg distracted from the major issues as well. Ultimately, the goal was to create a culture based on the "Last Man" worldwide. As Thomas Friedman put it, "No two countries with McDonalds ever went to war against each other" (which is no longer true, but it briefs well as a corporate bullet point). Conversely, my man Samuel Huntington predicted a "Clash of Civilizations", where all of the previous ethnic, racial, geographic, and religious divisions would come to the fore and be drivers of major instability; essentially, Huntington was saying that the Cold War was actually a stabilizing influence on geopolitics and that, far from being dead, History would soon start speedballing Coke and Meth and lead to worldwide instability, with new alliances, coalitions, and empires forming to challenge the existing western order creating escalating worldwide instability. This is not something the International Bright Young Things nor the Emerging Global Establishment wanted to hear. By trying to coopt the Third World, the western leaders have essentially destabilized the world, and their place in it. To counteract this, they are trying desperately to hammer the "round peg" of a Fukuyama worldview into the square hole of a Huntington reality, which is accelerating the destabilization. View Quote Get both? |
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Originally Posted By neshomamench: The Jews that support what happened are very few in number. They just get lots of airtime. As has been said in this thread, they are like the Jewish version of the Westboro Baptist Church. The Jews calling for a ceasefire, that is a larger group but still a minority. It is made up almost entirely of secular Jews…outside of a Israel. These Jews also get lots of airtime. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By neshomamench: Originally Posted By kychas: “On top of it, people comment how divided the US is. We do not seem so divided as the Jews, who have factions that appear to support Hamas and what it did in Israel. That's insane. “ Any red state could be completely destroyed and 10% of the population (left wackos) would cheer We have are own problems also The Jews that support what happened are very few in number. They just get lots of airtime. As has been said in this thread, they are like the Jewish version of the Westboro Baptist Church. The Jews calling for a ceasefire, that is a larger group but still a minority. It is made up almost entirely of secular Jews…outside of a Israel. These Jews also get lots of airtime. I thought they took their Palestinian flags down in Mea Shearim. Guess not. Attached File |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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North Gaza is going to be secure in a matter of days now from the looks of it.
I suppose than IDF will push into South Gaza and start taking it block by block until they have the entire West Bank under occupation status. I've observed that they're using a lot of their units that formerly occupied the West Back back in 2005, which I imagine is a sign that those units will return to the security responsibilities once the whole of the West Bank is secure. As far as the Hosptial having tunnels or not having tunnels, doesn't really matter, because regardless it had to be taken as part of the operation. I don't expect this campaign to be too eventful from here on out. IDF have this well in hand with their serious overmatch. [Deleted] |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: I thought they took their Palestinian flags in Mea Shearim. Guess not.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_1508_jpeg-3030844.JPG View Quote Apparently Israel lacks an adequate number of mental hosptials just like we do. |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: I thought they took their Palestinian flags in Mea Shearim. Guess not.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_1508_jpeg-3030844.JPG View Quote Ah, I understand now. This proves my point. It is a small faction. Mea Sherim has around 10000 or so residents. It is a single neighborhood in Jerusalem. And this is where you see this stuff concentrated. Most everyone else, including the millions of other Orthodox, think they are out of their minds. It really is like the Westboro crazies but Jewish. |
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Originally Posted By neshomamench: I don’t understand your statement ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By neshomamench: Originally Posted By michigan66: I thought they took their Palestinian flags in Mea Shearim. I don’t understand your statement ? Forgot to put 'down' in originally. That neighborhood had Palestinian flags hanging over the main street. A Youtuber who went there a few weeks ago noticed they'd taken them down. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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This was the Nobel Post. Deleted by whom and for what? lol Truth? Without the benefit of conversation? At least ID yourself. |
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Unfortunately for everyone, the so-called "Masters of the Universe" took the wrong lessons from the fall of the Berlin Wall. There were essentially two schools of thought on how things would pan out; for simplicities sake (therefore risking gross simplification), the "Fukuyama" school and the "Huntington" school. Francis Fukuyama wrote the famous essay "The End of History and the Last Man" in which he posited that all of the major historical issues had all been settled by the fall of Communism, that every major question had more-or-less been settled, that the world would be governed by some form of liberal democracy and all of the economics would be capitalistic. With no "Big Questions" left to settle, Fukuyama feared that people would become Nietzsche's "Last Man"; not really concerned with any big issues and consumed by mediocrity. Well, to the folks who were large and in charge, a world of sheep-like consumers with them in the role of the " bermensch" leadership, divorced from Christian concepts of morality, and power being the end in itself, to rule them seemed optimal. Therefore, allowing all of these radical movements "space to destroy" over relatively trivial issues was actually seen by them as a way to distract the disaffected from major issues by slowly coopting them into the Last Man "Borg" while in the interim using them as a wedge to keep the majority of the Borg distracted from the major issues as well. Ultimately, the goal was to create a culture based on the "Last Man" worldwide. As Thomas Friedman put it, "No two countries with McDonalds ever went to war against each other" (which is no longer true, but it briefs well as a corporate bullet point). Conversely, my man Samuel Huntington predicted a "Clash of Civilizations", where all of the previous ethnic, racial, geographic, and religious divisions would come to the fore and be drivers of major instability; essentially, Huntington was saying that the Cold War was actually a stabilizing influence on geopolitics and that, far from being dead, History would soon start speedballing Coke and Meth and lead to worldwide instability, with new alliances, coalitions, and empires forming to challenge the existing western order creating escalating worldwide instability. This is not something the International Bright Young Things nor the Emerging Global Establishment wanted to hear. By trying to coopt the Third World, the western leaders have essentially destabilized the world, and their place in it. To counteract this, they are trying desperately to hammer the "round peg" of a Fukuyama worldview into the square hole of a Huntington reality, which is accelerating the destabilization. Get both? We will have both...for a while. However, a soft "anarcho-tyranny" with a smiley face will not mobilize masses of westerners to give their fortunes, lives, and sacred honor to defend a bunch of cynical autocratic "experts" whose glaring incompetence becomes increasingly apparent from being consumed by their former "pets". We are reaping the products of that which we have sown over the last 30 years. Unfortunately, absent a mass "Road to Damascus" we will keep following the wrong road until most of the current "elites" are removed or deposed, which will probably come after things have devolved so badly that the turd outcomes are too numerous and big to polish with failed academic theories and transparently self-serving justifications. |
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Apparently Israel lacks an adequate number of mental hosptials just like we do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: Originally Posted By michigan66: I thought they took their Palestinian flags in Mea Shearim. Guess not.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_1508_jpeg-3030844.JPG Apparently Israel lacks an adequate number of mental hosptials just like we do. You can be Jewish and anti-Zionist. Zionism is simply an ideology. |
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Originally Posted By BM1455:
View Quote They need to let the media see that before blowing it up. |
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Originally Posted By Billybob2002: You can be Jewish and anti-Zionist. Zionism is simply an ideology. View Quote No, you can't. While widely held to be different, there is no difference. Anti Zionist IS Anti Jewish. Self hating Jews are a thing. It's just obfuscation. Don't start wars you can't win. |
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Ivy league again showing how smart and superior they are:
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Not sure what happened in above post...
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Originally Posted By Jack19: No, you can't. While widely held to be different, there is no difference. Anti Zionist IS Anti Jewish. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jack19: Originally Posted By Billybob2002: You can be Jewish and anti-Zionist. Zionism is simply an ideology. No, you can't. While widely held to be different, there is no difference. Anti Zionist IS Anti Jewish. What about Neturei Karta? I just noticed your edit. You cannot automatically call somebody self-hating because they don't support an ideology. |
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For some reason I can't post tweets from war mapper on X anymore. There is a new map for those who want to go look for it. |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver:
View Quote Given they've been at war with Israel since 1987, Hamas probably has multiple bunkers that are capable of being command posts. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By Jack19: https://a57.foxnews.com/livenews.foxnews.com/images/2023/11/624/351/a359a2d80d152ffa54f50097e0e96fb1.jpg?tl=1&ve=1 Emily Hand, who turns 9 years old on Friday, Nov. 17, is one of 32 children who were taken hostage by Hamas during its Oct. 7 terror attack on Israel. Her father, Thomas, was told early on that she had been killed. There will be no "Cease Fire." View Quote Destroy Hamas so that Hamas can never return. |
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Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: North Gaza is going to be secure in a matter of days now from the looks of it. I suppose than IDF will push into South Gaza and start taking it block by block until they have the entire West Bank under occupation status. I've observed that they're using a lot of their units that formerly occupied the West Back back in 2005, which I imagine is a sign that those units will return to the security responsibilities once the whole of the West Bank is secure. As far as the Hosptial having tunnels or not having tunnels, doesn't really matter, because regardless it had to be taken as part of the operation. I don't expect this campaign to be too eventful from here on out. IDF have this well in hand with their serious overmatch. . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KaerMorhenResident: North Gaza is going to be secure in a matter of days now from the looks of it. I suppose than IDF will push into South Gaza and start taking it block by block until they have the entire West Bank under occupation status. I've observed that they're using a lot of their units that formerly occupied the West Back back in 2005, which I imagine is a sign that those units will return to the security responsibilities once the whole of the West Bank is secure. As far as the Hosptial having tunnels or not having tunnels, doesn't really matter, because regardless it had to be taken as part of the operation. I don't expect this campaign to be too eventful from here on out. IDF have this well in hand with their serious overmatch. . They haven't secured all of the "above ground" of Gaza City yet, much less the underground. In 2014 they were in Gaza 50 days and everyone agrees they left without finishing the job. They can't do that again. I don't expect this campaign to be too eventful from here on out. IDF have this well in hand with their serious overmatch If it's uneventful from here on out, it is a sure bet Hamas' offensive war capabilities will not have been seriously degraded. I'd love nothing better than to be proven wrong, but I've seen the "Mission Accomplished"' overconfident attitude one too many times. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
GAZA LIVE : Palestine,GAZA | Multi-cams | Stream#94 Loud noises |
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Might be arty firing at the border into Gaza. There was something that flew up into the air that looked like it may have been a SAM way in there in Northern Gaza.
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God's grace is not cheap; it's free.
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Originally Posted By AZNetEng: We have all seen instances in the last few years that were smaller versions of what Israel is experiencing in the media and society. While it remains disappointing it should not be surprising to us. This is just another facet of the battle and it's waged effectively our enemies. None of the current conflicts (and not just military) are following anything close to the traditional battle lines we understand historically. What was once clear in terms of sides is muddled by the media as they lie and manipulate the information everyone receives. Just like this subject, because one is Jewish does not guarantee support for Israel, in this conflict or any other. The UKR conflict is the same. The ongoing politically based battles here are another example. In each instance there are people supporting a side to the conflict that defies logic and fact. Homosexuals for Palestine is perhaps the best example of this. This is what happens when people consume an altered version of events and adopt it as their truth. They know that it's different, but have convinced themselves that is because the victor writes history. There is some level of empathy for the "victim" that gets leveraged and underscored constantly such that people get drawn to support them. The lines are blurry and the facts are too. It is all by design to fracture everything and everyone. View Quote Well Said. While the media/news/influencers do not always directly tell us exactly what to think, they most assuredly tell us what to think about and control the conversation via platforms targeted at various age/belief groups and control of those platforms. |
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‘We’ve met every goal set for Gaza operation, and it’s only the beginning,’ Hanegbi says
National Security Council chairman Tzachi Hanegbi says the IDF is marking three weeks since the launch of its ground incursion in Gaza and is now operating in the heart of Gaza City, striking every target that it wanted. Thousands of terrorists have been killed including senior members of Hamas’s leadership, Hangebi says. “All of the goals set by the security cabinet have been met, and as the prime minister said, ‘This is only the beginning,'” We’re determined to reach the end of the battle, and the end of the battle will be the end of Hamas,” he says. “We will not stop until all of Hamas’s and Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s military and leadership capabilities are eradicated,” Hanegbi adds. This appears to be one of the first times that the PIJ has been included in such statements regarding Israel’s war aims. ‘We’ve met every goal set for Gaza operation, and it’s only the beginning,’ Hanegbi says |
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Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Shiny bits magnesium or phosphorus? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Originally Posted By BM1455:
Shiny bits magnesium or phosphorus? Judging from the white smoke plumes coming up off the bits that landed in the foreground I'd have to guess WP. Lots and lots of smaller secondaries in that boom. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
Originally Posted By Extorris:
I've only gotten two warnings in almost 15 years and over 91,000 posts...and I'm an asshole. I don't know how guys rack up all these warnings and temp locks. |
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Originally Posted By MMD: ‘We’ve met every goal set for Gaza operation, and it’s only the beginning,’ Hanegbi says National Security Council chairman Tzachi Hanegbi says the IDF is marking three weeks since the launch of its ground incursion in Gaza and is now operating in the heart of Gaza City, striking every target that it wanted. Thousands of terrorists have been killed including senior members of Hamas’s leadership, Hangebi says. “All of the goals set by the security cabinet have been met, and as the prime minister said, ‘This is only the beginning,'” We’re determined to reach the end of the battle, and the end of the battle will be the end of Hamas,” he says. “We will not stop until all of Hamas’s and Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s military and leadership capabilities are eradicated,” Hanegbi adds. This appears to be one of the first times that the PIJ has been included in such statements regarding Israel’s war aims. ‘We’ve met every goal set for Gaza operation, and it’s only the beginning,’ Hanegbi says View Quote I’m rooting for ample beach-side parking! Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Billybob2002: What about Neturei Karta? I just noticed your edit. You cannot automatically call somebody self-hating because they don't support an ideology. View Quote Yeah, I can and many do. Your "Palestinian" anti Zionist friends think so. Hamas uses "Jew" and "Zionist" interchangeably. The self haters, meh, whatever. |
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Haaretz: The Munitions U.S. Supplied Israel for Gaza War
Highlights: An internal Pentagon document revealed by Bloomberg on Wednesday details the requests made by "a senior Israeli leader" in late October. The list includes: 2,000 Hellfire laser-guided missiles 36,000 rounds of 30mm ammunition for Apache gunships 3,000 M141 bunker-buster shoulder fired rockets 400 120mm mortar rounds 200 Switchblade 600 dive-bombing drones Israel will be given back the two Iron Dome batteries it had sold to the U.S. Army 312 Tamir interceptors to be returned that were sold to US Army 57,000 155mm shells 75 armored Joint Light Tactical Vehicles 5,000 PVS-14 night vision devices 20,000 M4A1 rifles View Quote Article: Click To View Spoiler Tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells, thousands of bunker-buster munitions and 200 kamikaze drones – these are just some weapons and ammunition Israel has asked the U.S. for since the beginning of the war in Gaza.
An internal Pentagon document revealed by Bloomberg on Wednesday details the requests made by "a senior Israeli leader" in late October. The list also includes 2,000 Hellfire laser-guided missiles for Apache gunships and 36,000 rounds of 30mm ammunition for its cannon. Israel's Apache helicopters have been operating constantly since the early hours of October 7, closely assisting ground forces in the Gaza Strip and on the Lebanon border. According to the document, the missiles, and ammunition have already been provided to the Israeli army. Israel also asked for 3,000 M141 bunker-buster shoulder fired rockets, made by Nammo Talley Defense and capable of penetrating up to 20 cm of concrete. 1,800 of these have already been shipped, as of late October. Israel has also asked for 400 120mm mortar rounds. Also on Israel's list, per Bloomberg, are 200 Switchblade 600 dive-bombing drones made by the American AeroVironment company. These drones have a range of 40 km, more than 40 minutes of flight time and a combination of cameras and infrared sensors. The Switchblade, which was also shipped to the Ukrainian army – is equipped with a warhead based on the American Javelin missile, and can hit armored vehicles, bunkers and exposed troops. According to Breaking Defense, the U.S. Army has ordered more than 100 such drones for its own use in October, leading to the assumption that there are no drones currently available in warehouses. The document confirms that Israel will be given back the two Iron Dome batteries it had sold to the U.S. Army – which eventually chose a different system – as well as 312 Tamir interceptors. The batteries were shipped to Israel by sea. The most controversial munitions are the 57,000 155mm shells, at least a portion of which were sent from the U.S. Army's stockpiles in Israel to Europe, for the Ukrainian war effort. Human rights groups as well as Palestinian officials have criticized the use of cannons in the densely-populated Gaza Strip. The shortage in shells is a problem that has repeated itself in various conflicts in Israel and around the world. Last July, however, Israel's Defense Ministry and Elbit signed a contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars to supply tens of thousands of shells. The Israeli list of requests also includes 75 armored Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, some of which have already been supplied. Israel also asked for 5,000 PVS-14 night vision devices, manufactured by Elbit America, and L3Harris. 3,500 of these have been provided. At least one item on the list – 20,000 M4A1 rifles (a variant of the AR-15) – has already caused a stir. The U.S. has even threatened to halt the supply when it learned that National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir distributed the weapons to security squads during events that could be construed as political. Democrats grow wary Meanwhile, Congressional Democrats are increasingly wary of the Biden administration’s lack of transparency regarding the public disclosure on arms sales to Israel – which is in contrast to its self-reported information about similar sales to Ukraine. The administration is also pushing for the authority to bypass notification requirements to Congress that apply to every other country receiving foreign military financing. "What I can tell you is we are providing assistance to Israel through very different mechanisms than how we provide assistance to Ukraine," said Pentagon deputy spokesperson Sabrina Singh. While Ukraine aid is primarily provided via drawdown authorities, which permits the "speedy delivery of defense articles and services from Department of Defense stocks to foreign countries and international organizations to respond to unforeseen emergencies." Israel is mainly through official foreign military sales, foreign military financing, and then direct contracting that Israel does with private commercial companies. Efforts to provide Israel with $14 billion in emergency assistance have hit a standstill due to political gridlock in Washington. The House passed a stopgap funding measure on Tuesday to keep the government open, which will now go to the Senate. The effort, however, does not include supplemental assistance to Israel. Negotiations to link Israel and Ukraine funding, meanwhile, have hit a brick wall over border security. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
Originally Posted By michigan66: Haaretz: The Munitions U.S. Supplied Israel for Gaza War Highlights: Article: Click To View Spoiler Tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells, thousands of bunker-buster munitions and 200 kamikaze drones – these are just some weapons and ammunition Israel has asked the U.S. for since the beginning of the war in Gaza. An internal Pentagon document revealed by Bloomberg on Wednesday details the requests made by "a senior Israeli leader" in late October. The list also includes 2,000 Hellfire laser-guided missiles for Apache gunships and 36,000 rounds of 30mm ammunition for its cannon. Israel's Apache helicopters have been operating constantly since the early hours of October 7, closely assisting ground forces in the Gaza Strip and on the Lebanon border. According to the document, the missiles, and ammunition have already been provided to the Israeli army. Israel also asked for 3,000 M141 bunker-buster shoulder fired rockets, made by Nammo Talley Defense and capable of penetrating up to 20 cm of concrete. 1,800 of these have already been shipped, as of late October. Israel has also asked for 400 120mm mortar rounds. Also on Israel's list, per Bloomberg, are 200 Switchblade 600 dive-bombing drones made by the American AeroVironment company. These drones have a range of 40 km, more than 40 minutes of flight time and a combination of cameras and infrared sensors. The Switchblade, which was also shipped to the Ukrainian army – is equipped with a warhead based on the American Javelin missile, and can hit armored vehicles, bunkers and exposed troops. According to Breaking Defense, the U.S. Army has ordered more than 100 such drones for its own use in October, leading to the assumption that there are no drones currently available in warehouses. The document confirms that Israel will be given back the two Iron Dome batteries it had sold to the U.S. Army – which eventually chose a different system – as well as 312 Tamir interceptors. The batteries were shipped to Israel by sea. The most controversial munitions are the 57,000 155mm shells, at least a portion of which were sent from the U.S. Army's stockpiles in Israel to Europe, for the Ukrainian war effort. Human rights groups as well as Palestinian officials have criticized the use of cannons in the densely-populated Gaza Strip. The shortage in shells is a problem that has repeated itself in various conflicts in Israel and around the world. Last July, however, Israel's Defense Ministry and Elbit signed a contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars to supply tens of thousands of shells. The Israeli list of requests also includes 75 armored Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, some of which have already been supplied. Israel also asked for 5,000 PVS-14 night vision devices, manufactured by Elbit America, and L3Harris. 3,500 of these have been provided. At least one item on the list – 20,000 M4A1 rifles (a variant of the AR-15) – has already caused a stir. The U.S. has even threatened to halt the supply when it learned that National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir distributed the weapons to security squads during events that could be construed as political. Democrats grow wary Meanwhile, Congressional Democrats are increasingly wary of the Biden administration’s lack of transparency regarding the public disclosure on arms sales to Israel – which is in contrast to its self-reported information about similar sales to Ukraine. The administration is also pushing for the authority to bypass notification requirements to Congress that apply to every other country receiving foreign military financing. "What I can tell you is we are providing assistance to Israel through very different mechanisms than how we provide assistance to Ukraine," said Pentagon deputy spokesperson Sabrina Singh. While Ukraine aid is primarily provided via drawdown authorities, which permits the "speedy delivery of defense articles and services from Department of Defense stocks to foreign countries and international organizations to respond to unforeseen emergencies." Israel is mainly through official foreign military sales, foreign military financing, and then direct contracting that Israel does with private commercial companies. Efforts to provide Israel with $14 billion in emergency assistance have hit a standstill due to political gridlock in Washington. The House passed a stopgap funding measure on Tuesday to keep the government open, which will now go to the Senate. The effort, however, does not include supplemental assistance to Israel. Negotiations to link Israel and Ukraine funding, meanwhile, have hit a brick wall over border security. View Quote 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. |
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Originally Posted By Hunter8282: Originally Posted By BM1455:
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Originally Posted By michigan66: Based on the headline I was expecting a lot more of everything. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By BM1455: 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. Based on the headline I was expecting a lot more of everything. The majority of that looks like stuff for a much bigger throw down with Hezbollah. |
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Originally Posted By MMD: ‘We’ve met every goal set for Gaza operation, and it’s only the beginning,’ Hanegbi says National Security Council chairman Tzachi Hanegbi says the IDF is marking three weeks since the launch of its ground incursion in Gaza and is now operating in the heart of Gaza City, striking every target that it wanted. Thousands of terrorists have been killed including senior members of Hamas’s leadership, Hangebi says. “All of the goals set by the security cabinet have been met, and as the prime minister said, ‘This is only the beginning,'” We’re determined to reach the end of the battle, and the end of the battle will be the end of Hamas,” he says. “We will not stop until all of Hamas’s and Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s military and leadership capabilities are eradicated,” Hanegbi adds. This appears to be one of the first times that the PIJ has been included in such statements regarding Israel’s war aims. ‘We’ve met every goal set for Gaza operation, and it’s only the beginning,’ Hanegbi says View Quote As I've said from the beginning, Hamas done fucked up big time this time! |
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Originally Posted By Jack19: Yeah, I can and many do. Your "Palestinian" anti Zionist friends think so. Hamas uses "Jew" and "Zionist" interchangeably. The self haters, meh, whatever. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jack19: Originally Posted By Billybob2002: What about Neturei Karta? I just noticed your edit. You cannot automatically call somebody self-hating because they don't support an ideology. Yeah, I can and many do. Your "Palestinian" anti Zionist friends think so. Hamas uses "Jew" and "Zionist" interchangeably. The self haters, meh, whatever. I never claimed that an anti-Zionist cannot be an antisemitic. Heck there are antisemitic Christian Zionists. For example, John Hagee, founder of Christian Zionist organization Christians United for Israel, said Hitler was a half breed Jew and other antisemitic shit in the past. Well, your Ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, and other Israeli diplomats in October attended an event called Night to Honor Israel hosted by him. How about that! |
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Originally Posted By BM1455: 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BM1455: Originally Posted By michigan66: Haaretz: The Munitions U.S. Supplied Israel for Gaza War Highlights: Article: Click To View Spoiler Tens of thousands of 155mm artillery shells, thousands of bunker-buster munitions and 200 kamikaze drones – these are just some weapons and ammunition Israel has asked the U.S. for since the beginning of the war in Gaza. An internal Pentagon document revealed by Bloomberg on Wednesday details the requests made by "a senior Israeli leader" in late October. The list also includes 2,000 Hellfire laser-guided missiles for Apache gunships and 36,000 rounds of 30mm ammunition for its cannon. Israel's Apache helicopters have been operating constantly since the early hours of October 7, closely assisting ground forces in the Gaza Strip and on the Lebanon border. According to the document, the missiles, and ammunition have already been provided to the Israeli army. Israel also asked for 3,000 M141 bunker-buster shoulder fired rockets, made by Nammo Talley Defense and capable of penetrating up to 20 cm of concrete. 1,800 of these have already been shipped, as of late October. Israel has also asked for 400 120mm mortar rounds. Also on Israel's list, per Bloomberg, are 200 Switchblade 600 dive-bombing drones made by the American AeroVironment company. These drones have a range of 40 km, more than 40 minutes of flight time and a combination of cameras and infrared sensors. The Switchblade, which was also shipped to the Ukrainian army – is equipped with a warhead based on the American Javelin missile, and can hit armored vehicles, bunkers and exposed troops. According to Breaking Defense, the U.S. Army has ordered more than 100 such drones for its own use in October, leading to the assumption that there are no drones currently available in warehouses. The document confirms that Israel will be given back the two Iron Dome batteries it had sold to the U.S. Army – which eventually chose a different system – as well as 312 Tamir interceptors. The batteries were shipped to Israel by sea. The most controversial munitions are the 57,000 155mm shells, at least a portion of which were sent from the U.S. Army's stockpiles in Israel to Europe, for the Ukrainian war effort. Human rights groups as well as Palestinian officials have criticized the use of cannons in the densely-populated Gaza Strip. The shortage in shells is a problem that has repeated itself in various conflicts in Israel and around the world. Last July, however, Israel's Defense Ministry and Elbit signed a contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars to supply tens of thousands of shells. The Israeli list of requests also includes 75 armored Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, some of which have already been supplied. Israel also asked for 5,000 PVS-14 night vision devices, manufactured by Elbit America, and L3Harris. 3,500 of these have been provided. At least one item on the list – 20,000 M4A1 rifles (a variant of the AR-15) – has already caused a stir. The U.S. has even threatened to halt the supply when it learned that National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir distributed the weapons to security squads during events that could be construed as political. Democrats grow wary Meanwhile, Congressional Democrats are increasingly wary of the Biden administration’s lack of transparency regarding the public disclosure on arms sales to Israel – which is in contrast to its self-reported information about similar sales to Ukraine. The administration is also pushing for the authority to bypass notification requirements to Congress that apply to every other country receiving foreign military financing. "What I can tell you is we are providing assistance to Israel through very different mechanisms than how we provide assistance to Ukraine," said Pentagon deputy spokesperson Sabrina Singh. While Ukraine aid is primarily provided via drawdown authorities, which permits the "speedy delivery of defense articles and services from Department of Defense stocks to foreign countries and international organizations to respond to unforeseen emergencies." Israel is mainly through official foreign military sales, foreign military financing, and then direct contracting that Israel does with private commercial companies. Efforts to provide Israel with $14 billion in emergency assistance have hit a standstill due to political gridlock in Washington. The House passed a stopgap funding measure on Tuesday to keep the government open, which will now go to the Senate. The effort, however, does not include supplemental assistance to Israel. Negotiations to link Israel and Ukraine funding, meanwhile, have hit a brick wall over border security. 36,000 30mmm rounds for the Apache's doesn't seem like it's neckbearding enough to me. lol, and 57,000 155mm rounds is currently about two months of production from US. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By xd675: No. That would be a half measure. End this. The only terms must be unconditional surrender. Anything less drags yet another generation into endless conflict and suffering. Unconditional surrender is the only humane solution. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By xd675: Originally Posted By cyclone: Originally Posted By batjka104: Body of murdered Israeli hostage Noa Marciano had been found in Shifa Hospital's morgue and taken back to Israel. She was 19 years old. There are probably more dead hostages to be found in the coming days.......then they should exact a 10-1 ratio for Hamas and kill everything that raises a finger against them No. That would be a half measure. End this. The only terms must be unconditional surrender. Anything less drags yet another generation into endless conflict and suffering. Unconditional surrender is the only humane solution. Qutar and Iran is another day |
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Originally Posted By fike: The majority of that looks like stuff for a much bigger throw down with Hezbollah. View Quote Makes sense. I think Israel is going after them shortly--they've said they learned from their error of considering intentions instead of capabilities when they developed Oplans for dealing with Hamas. Using that logic, there is no way they can leave Hezbollah with 100K rockets. Currently Israel and Hezbollah have developed certain rules on how they fight each other based on the fact that neither of them wants a repeat of the 34-day Lebanon war that turned out badly for both of them. I can't see how Israel can continue following the "rules" knowing that when they least expect it Hezbollah might do their own 7 October with deadlier results. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: 1990s deja vu View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Unfortunately for everyone, the so-called "Masters of the Universe" took the wrong lessons from the fall of the Berlin Wall. There were essentially two schools of thought on how things would pan out; for simplicities sake (therefore risking gross simplification), the "Fukuyama" school and the "Huntington" school. Francis Fukuyama wrote the famous essay "The End of History and the Last Man" in which he posited that all of the major historical issues had all been settled by the fall of Communism, that every major question had more-or-less been settled, that the world would be governed by some form of liberal democracy and all of the economics would be capitalistic. With no "Big Questions" left to settle, Fukuyama feared that people would become Nietzsche's "Last Man"; not really concerned with any big issues and consumed by mediocrity. Well, to the folks who were large and in charge, a world of sheep-like consumers with them in the role of the "Übermensch" leadership, divorced from Christian concepts of morality, and power being the end in itself, to rule them. Therefore, allowing all of these radical movements "space to destroy" over relatively trivial issues was actually seen by them as a way to distract the disaffected from major issues by slowly coopting them into the Last Man "Borg" while in the interim using them as a wedge to keep the majority of the Borg distracted from the major issues as well. Ultimately, the goal was to create a culture based on the "Last Man" worldwide. As Thomas Friedman put it, "No two countries with McDonalds ever went to war against each other" (which is no longer true, but it briefs well as a corporate bullet point). Conversely, my man Samuel Huntington predicted a "Clash of Civilizations", where all of the previous ethnic, racial, geographic, and religious divisions would come to the fore and be drivers of major instability; essentially, Huntington was saying that the Cold War was actually a stabilizing influence on geopolitics and that, far from being dead, History would soon start speedballing Coke and Meth and lead to worldwide instability, with new alliances, coalitions, and empires forming to challenge the existing western order creating escalating worldwide instability. This is not something the International Bright Young Things nor the Emerging Global Establishment wanted to hear. By trying to coopt the Third World, the western leaders have essentially destabilized the world, and their place in it. To counteract this, they are trying desperately to hammer the "round peg" of a Fukuyama worldview into the square peg of a Huntington reality, which is accelerating the destabilization. 1990s deja vu Pretty much. Out elites seem to have a love of 1) doubling down on failure, and 2) repeating the mistakes of the past. |
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I would love to know the number of bombs dropped on Gaza already. They have leveled a damn big playing field and show no real signs of slowing down from the noise coming out of my speakers.
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