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Originally Posted By cmxterra: Someone else might have already commented on this... but have you noticed almost all the commenters on the NASA feed are all wemnz. Same with the controllers. (at least the ones speaking) View Quote NASA has been getting progressively more woke since at least the early 2000s when they went full bore into the official climate change narrative. At this rate, in about 30 years I would expect that they would only hire women and disabled people of color. Actual qualifications or ability to do tasks assigned be damned. |
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Now the mirror is moving into final position.
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: NASA has been getting progressively more woke since at least the early 2000s when they went full bore into the official climate change narrative. At this rate, in about 30 years I would expect that they would only hire women and disabled people of color. Actual qualifications or ability to do tasks provided be damned. View Quote meeeeh. NASA outsources a bunch of engineering from Lockheed, Grumman, SpaceX, ect ect. The important work is still carried out by qualified people. Regardless of race or gender. |
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: NASA has been getting progressively more woke since at least the early 2000s when they went full bore into the official climate change narrative. At this rate, in about 30 years I would expect that they would only hire women and disabled people of color. Actual qualifications or ability to do tasks assigned be damned. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By cmxterra: Someone else might have already commented on this... but have you noticed almost all the commenters on the NASA feed are all wemnz. Same with the controllers. (at least the ones speaking) NASA has been getting progressively more woke since at least the early 2000s when they went full bore into the official climate change narrative. At this rate, in about 30 years I would expect that they would only hire women and disabled people of color. Actual qualifications or ability to do tasks assigned be damned. Nah, the real work is being done by men, behind the scenes, of course. |
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And there it is fully deployed mirrors good job
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Hopefully this means it will start sending photos when it gets to L2. It's still unbelievable that they've gotten this far with all of the setbacks.
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If Starship comes online, there will be no point in refueling James Webb. A better version will be launched for a quarter the price.
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Nou ani Anquietas. Hic qua videum.
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: meeeeh. NASA outsources a bunch of engineering from Lockheed, Grumman, SpaceX, ect ect. The important work is still carried out by qualified people. Regardless of race or gender. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Originally Posted By Hesperus: NASA has been getting progressively more woke since at least the early 2000s when they went full bore into the official climate change narrative. At this rate, in about 30 years I would expect that they would only hire women and disabled people of color. Actual qualifications or ability to do tasks provided be damned. meeeeh. NASA outsources a bunch of engineering from Lockheed, Grumman, SpaceX, ect ect. The important work is still carried out by qualified people. Regardless of race or gender. well Boeing is WOKE AF...I am sure they are all going to get there soon. |
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Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44: If Starship comes online, there will be no point in refueling James Webb. A better version will be launched for a quarter the price. View Quote And it will be Yugge! But let's wait until we have mountains of technical data and years of astronomical observations from Webb before we start working on that. |
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"Is it still larping when you actually chop someone with a battle axe?" Tacocat
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Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44: If Starship comes online, there will be no point in refueling James Webb. A better version will be launched for a quarter the price. View Quote More operating telescopes means.. more science. There are a bunch of bigger telescopes on Earth that have way bigger mirrors with adaptive optics than the Hubble. Yet, nobody wants to retire the Hubble. Even if we do what you say, all the better if we "get both". |
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we should really have an space station in L2
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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How long before Elon puts user rentable and controllable scopes in orbit?
I bet a Meade LX200 would really rock from orbit. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I hope the time JWST runs out of fuel in a decade or so, we'll have a refueling system we can send out there. The Hubble is 30 years old and still doing good science. View Quote If ¡JEBB! gets serviced it won't be humans servicing. As usual, Scott Manley already has a video on the subject. A New Satellite Is Preparing To Repair An Old Satellite Northrop Grumman video Next Generation of Satellite Servicing Products: Mission Robotic Vehicle and Mission Extension Pods |
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Originally Posted By fike: Quarter of the price for the launch or the whole program? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44: If Starship comes online, there will be no point in refueling James Webb. A better version will be launched for a quarter the price. Quarter of the price for the launch or the whole program? Both. If Starship drops launch costs as significantly as projected, the reduction of weight and volume penalties will allow people to construct simpler satellites made from cheaper materials and with larger fuel tanks. |
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Originally Posted By midcap: we should really have an space station in L2 View Quote Have you heard of the L5 Society? When I was an undergraduate, I attended a lecture by Timothy Leary explaining and promoting it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society |
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: Have you heard of the L5 Society? When I was an undergraduate, I attended a lecture by Timothy Leary explaining and promoting it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By midcap: we should really have an space station in L2 Have you heard of the L5 Society? When I was an undergraduate, I attended a lecture by Timothy Leary explaining and promoting it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society that's really cool. |
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: Both. If Starship drops launch costs as significantly as projected, the reduction of weight and volume penalties will allow people to construct simpler satellites made from cheaper materials and with larger fuel tanks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44: If Starship comes online, there will be no point in refueling James Webb. A better version will be launched for a quarter the price. Quarter of the price for the launch or the whole program? Both. If Starship drops launch costs as significantly as projected, the reduction of weight and volume penalties will allow people to construct simpler satellites made from cheaper materials and with larger fuel tanks. Starship might reduce the cost of getting shit to space, but when talking about a direct replacement for Webb as a premier NASA project, we are talking about LUVOIR and HabEx which will probably launch around 2040. The vast majority of the cost will be in building the telescopes. The LUVOIR A design (15m primary mirror vs the 6.5 of Webb) has already been planned to fold into an 8 meter wide payload fairing. Both projects (or some combination) are already proposed to launch on either a Starship or a SLS with project costs that mirror Webb. |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
View Quote Have they finished latching the wing? That’s jumping ahead a bit |
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Originally Posted By fike: Starship might reduce the cost of getting shit to space, but when talking about a direct replacement for Webb as a premier NASA project, we are talking about LUVOIR and HabEx which will probably launch around 2040. The vast majority of the cost will be in building the telescopes. The LUVOIR A design (15m primary mirror vs the 6.5 of Webb) has already been planned to fold into an 8 meter wide payload fairing. Both projects (or some combination) are already proposed to launch on either a Starship or a SLS with project costs that mirror Webb. View Quote Let's see how long that last bit can go on for when the economy implodes into a nightmare of Stagflation. Followed by a cavalcade of Neo-feudalist 5 year plans. |
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"Is it still larping when you actually chop someone with a battle axe?" Tacocat
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Have to wonder about the risk v. reward when it comes to folding stuff up to fit in a single launch / fairing vs assembling more rigid / robust structures in low earth orbit and then boosting an assembled structure to a final orbit. Risk either way of course.
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Originally Posted By fike: Starship might reduce the cost of getting shit to space, but when talking about a direct replacement for Webb as a premier NASA project, we are talking about LUVOIR and HabEx which will probably launch around 2040. The vast majority of the cost will be in building the telescopes. The LUVOIR A design (15m primary mirror vs the 6.5 of Webb) has already been planned to fold into an 8 meter wide payload fairing. Both projects (or some combination) are already proposed to launch on either a Starship or a SLS with project costs that mirror Webb. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44: If Starship comes online, there will be no point in refueling James Webb. A better version will be launched for a quarter the price. Quarter of the price for the launch or the whole program? Both. If Starship drops launch costs as significantly as projected, the reduction of weight and volume penalties will allow people to construct simpler satellites made from cheaper materials and with larger fuel tanks. Starship might reduce the cost of getting shit to space, but when talking about a direct replacement for Webb as a premier NASA project, we are talking about LUVOIR and HabEx which will probably launch around 2040. The vast majority of the cost will be in building the telescopes. The LUVOIR A design (15m primary mirror vs the 6.5 of Webb) has already been planned to fold into an 8 meter wide payload fairing. Both projects (or some combination) are already proposed to launch on either a Starship or a SLS with project costs that mirror Webb. So twice the size for the same project cost. Sounds like the volume advantage is already paying off. By 2040, things like that could probably be assembled in orbit. I wouldn't be surprised if those telescopes are obsolete and cancelled before then. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
View Quote HOLY SHIT YES I can’t believe they actually pulled it off this smoothly, I thought for sure there’d be at least some question about whether something was working correctly or not. This is fucking incredible |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
View Quote Lock it down! Put this thread in cyrostasis. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
View Quote Hell Yeh!!! It actually worked??? For all of the jokes over the years, they actually pulled this off! NASA knows how to do science, they just need to leave rockets to private space and stick to what they are best at!!! |
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LIVE discussion now (NASA)
News Update on James Webb Space Telescope's Full Deployment |
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someone asked about fuel... and due to the success of the insertion accuracy, there is potentially 20 years of fuel onboard.
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MIA: M/SGT James W. Holt USSF 2-7-68 SVN
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There are too many white faces in this q&a.
But luckily, this latest commenter wanted to know about COVID precautions. |
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Originally Posted By RVAguy: There are too many white faces in this q&a. But luckily, this latest commenter wanted to know about COVID precautions. View Quote IKR some of the greatest science/engineering on the planet and some karen is worried about the chinese virus. don't be like that karen. |
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MIA: M/SGT James W. Holt USSF 2-7-68 SVN
"Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you." -A. Wilkow |
Take it easy and if it's easy take it twice
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Originally Posted By Enzo300: How long before Elon puts user rentable and controllable scopes in orbit? I bet a Meade LX200 would really rock from orbit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/461570/coin-operated-binoculars-16026275_jpg-2232844.JPG View Quote @Enzo300 That's already in progress. The Starlink constellation have cameras on them both looking out and looking down. Once the pattern is dense enough, that many cameras can be tiled together to give higher magnification for about a 50,000 foot view of anywhere on Earth - Basically Google Earth "Live" like in Snow Crash. That's not quite available yet as the pattern isn't dense enough but it will be if the launch rate of the satellite strings continues. |
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Originally Posted By brass: @Enzo300 That's already in progress. The Starlink constellation have cameras on them both looking out and looking down. Once the pattern is dense enough, that many cameras can be tiled together to give higher magnification for about a 50,000 foot view of anywhere on Earth - Basically Google Earth "Live" like in Snow Crash. That's not quite available yet as the pattern isn't dense enough but it will be if the launch rate of the satellite strings continues. View Quote NEAT! Thanks brass |
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Originally Posted By RVAguy: There are too many white faces in this q&a. But luckily, this latest commenter wanted to know about COVID precautions. View Quote Really? Laughing out loud. I am not one of the ARF guys that think Covid = just the Flu. I'm pro-vaccine as well. But that doesn't seem like a valid question within these parameters. |
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75% of the way there by distance, 50% by time. Another two weeks until it makes it to L2
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: Let's see how long that last bit can go on for when the economy implodes into a nightmare of Stagflation. Followed by a cavalcade of Neo-feudalist 5 year plans. View Quote The fabled stagflapocalypse that has been foretold for the past twenty years? Anyway, be happy to see some of the first imagery from this. Have there been any indications on what the first target might be? Hopefully something with a terrestrial planet. |
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fantastic news from NASA. really looking forward to any and all discoveries from JWST in 6 months or so. btw with this successful deployment, the next project named luvoir should get the green light.
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