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Gives me a headache just looking at it. https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/19c0488-001-source-1559923678.jpg?resize=640:* View Quote |
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To put things in perspective for our knuckle dragger members this would be like Chevy putting a turbocharged 350 into a production car that makes 1185hp. Now tell me this isn't a major achievement. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/291460649980-0-1/s-l1000.jpg What are you putting that in? |
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To put things in perspective for our knuckle dragger members this would be like Chevy putting a turbocharged 350 into a production car that makes 1185hp. Now tell me this isn't a major achievement. View Quote Again, engine weight/engine power is what really matters, along with reliability and efficiency. |
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To put things in perspective for our knuckle dragger members this would be like Chevy putting a turbocharged 350 into a production car that makes 1185hp. Now tell me this isn't a major achievement. View Quote |
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No HP/L is an ultimately useless metric because all engines with the same displacement don't have the same weight. 4L BMW dohc v8s more often than not weigh more than 7.0L pushrod V8s with more power. If your lower displacement engine weighs more than a higher displacement engine to make the same power and adds a whole bunch of complicated engineering to achieve this, then all you have done is created a worthless engineering exercise. Again, engine weight/engine power is what really matters, along with reliability and efficiency. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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To put things in perspective for our knuckle dragger members this would be like Chevy putting a turbocharged 350 into a production car that makes 1185hp. Now tell me this isn't a major achievement. Again, engine weight/engine power is what really matters, along with reliability and efficiency. Look I love chevy engines in fact my next ride will be a C6Z heads/cam but the pushrod engine is dead. The power they can squeeze out of newer engines while keeping them smooth with manners and good gas mileage is amazing. |
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The good news is that although it's direct injection, at higher power levels it gets some of its fuel from port injectors.
So, if you put your foot in it occasionally and run top tier gasoline, the soot gets cleaned off the intake valves. |
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It's German. It has to be complicated by default. View Quote Mercedes' new engine probably just took the Deutsche National overcomplication award away from its current holder. |
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Quoted: Bingo. Throw that motor in a 2500 lb hatchback and it would get my attention. Better yet would be a small mid engine sports car like a Lotus or something like the old MR2 or early Acura NSX. Looks like it's destined for a big 4 door sedan though. View Quote |
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I want to put a 2.3 Ecoboost Mustang, drive train, and suspension in a 240Z
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Really ain't shit IMO. I mean if they mass produce it sure, I suppose. But completely do-able with a JDM EJ207 boxer motor (Subaru) with a good turbo, equal length headers, larger injectors and maybe some e85, etc. And rev to 8500 or 9000 rpm. And be dead nuts reliable all day.
ETA: EJ207 means it's a 2.0..... Also when putting that in an AWD WRX/STI platform or especially a GC8 (think 22b) platform, it scoots. 3100 lbs or so, 8500 rpm, boost builds pretty early. I applaud AMG for always pushing the envelope with their motors, but Subaru has been there for a while with the 207. And 207's don't have hardly any of the major documented issues the USDM EJ257 does. I also think suby's newer FA20 (newest gen WRX 2.0 motor) has a lot of potential once these cars become a little cheaper to tinker with. |
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Not everyone wants to ride around in a clapped out s10, with a junkyard ls, iffy cam bearings(if you dont look at them, they wont be bad) some new springs (maybe a boost rated cam if your welfare check came in) with some Nagasaki noisy boys and straight piped exhaust screaming so loud you cant hear your pregnant ol lady screaming her water just broke as she takes a long draw off her Marlboro red. |
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Really ain't shit IMO. I mean if they mass produce it sure, I suppose. But completely do-able with a JDM EJ207 boxer motor (Subaru) with a good turbo, equal length headers, larger injectors and maybe some e85, etc. And rev to 8500 or 9000 rpm. And be dead nuts reliable all day. ETA: EJ207 means it's a 2.0..... Also when putting that in an AWD WRX/STI platform or especially a GC8 (think 22b) platform, it scoots. 3100 lbs or so, 8500 rpm, boost builds pretty early. I applaud AMG for always pushing the envelope with their motors, but Subaru has been there for a while with the 207. And 207's don't have hardly any of the major documented issues the USDM EJ257 does. I also think suby's newer FA20 (newest gen WRX 2.0 motor) has a lot of potential once these cars become a little cheaper to tinker with. View Quote |
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Don't care what you old turds think.
NOW is the new golden age of cars! |
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Really ain't shit IMO. I mean if they mass produce it sure, I suppose. But completely do-able with a JDM EJ207 boxer motor (Subaru) with a good turbo, equal length headers, larger injectors and maybe some e85, etc. And rev to 8500 or 9000 rpm. And be dead nuts reliable all day. ETA: EJ207 means it's a 2.0..... Also when putting that in an AWD WRX/STI platform or especially a GC8 (think 22b) platform, it scoots. 3100 lbs or so, 8500 rpm, boost builds pretty early. I applaud AMG for always pushing the envelope with their motors, but Subaru has been there for a while with the 207. And 207's don't have hardly any of the major documented issues the USDM EJ257 does. I also think suby's newer FA20 (newest gen WRX 2.0 motor) has a lot of potential once these cars become a little cheaper to tinker with. View Quote Yeah, let's see Fuji toy cars do that with a warranty. |
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Does it still sounds like a 4 banger?
Bzzzzzzt........Bzzzzzzztttt......Buuuuuuzzzzzzzt. |
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Lol arfcom typical with the mah ls in a jeep is super reliable and I'd only drive a Beemer with a v 10 diesel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrDk9RzFw6s How about a 1500 hp 4 cylinder Formula 1 engine? View Quote |
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That's nice - will they finally start building their suspensions again that feel better than my Hyundai?
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Quoted: No HP/L is an ultimately useless metric because all engines with the same displacement don't have the same weight. 4L BMW dohc v8s more often than not weigh more than 7.0L pushrod V8s with more power. If your lower displacement engine weighs more than a higher displacement engine to make the same power and adds a whole bunch of complicated engineering to achieve this, then all you have done is created a worthless engineering exercise. Again, engine weight/engine power is what really matters, along with reliability and efficiency. View Quote |
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Gives me a headache just looking at it. https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/19c0488-001-source-1559923678.jpg?resize=640:* View Quote |
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Quoted: Would that modded out rice a roni engine get near the economy, is it smooth and quiet, does it meet the most stringent emissions standards? Yeah, let's see Fuji toy cars do that with a warranty. View Quote People are getting over 500HP/L out of built 207s with deck inserts. 416 reliable HP wouldn't be difficult at all, even with cats and mufflers. Would cost of course, it's just a little too much to do on the cheap. This is a neat engine for a factory offering. |
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Bingo. Throw that motor in a 2500 lb hatchback and it would get my attention. Better yet would be a small mid engine sports car like a Lotus or something like the old MR2 or early Acura NSX. Looks like it's destined for a big 4 door sedan though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That will never happen. But it wont. A pocket rocket AMG would be impressive as hell. But it will go into some 3600+ pound sedan with a 87 speed transmission and I still wont give a shit. Looks like it's destined for a big 4 door sedan though. Wiki has the A class in a weight range of 2,800-3,200 pounds. They also have it as 0-60 in 3.9s and a top speed of 168 MPH. That's pretty damn fast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_A-Class_ |
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Quoted: Eh. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--6Z5wako3--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/soutrmd1ggqvmqbqkjk7.jpg Wiki has the A class in a weight range of 2,800-3,200 pounds. They also have it as 0-60 in 3.9s and a top speed of 168 MPH. That's pretty damn fast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_A-Class_ View Quote Obviously I see the appeal of the format, but people buy German for sex appeal, and that has none. |
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Motorcycle motors make that hp naturally aspirated View Quote Making 400 hp out of 2 liters in a production car is a feat. I was impressed when Volvo got 300 hp out of their twin charged, 2 liter 4 in the xc series. |
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Quoted: OK that's crazy, an MB hot hatch. Obviously I see the appeal of the format, but people buy German for sex appeal, and that has none. View Quote Also, when I was in Germany (which was almost 20 years ago, damn) sedans were for boring old people and all the kids had hatches for the practicality necessary in their more active lifestyles. |
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Hp is a function of torque based on rpm, your statement is not really all that relevant. Making 400 hp out of 2 liters in a production car is a feat. I was impressed when Volvo got 300 hp out of their twin charged, 2 liter 4 in the xc series. View Quote |
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That’s an incredible motor.
Lease the car, drive the snot out of it, trade it in. Enjoy it new under warranty, then it’ll be someone else’s problem. It’s an MB, after all. |
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