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Originally Posted By burnka871: I wonder what they plan on launching them off of View Quote Article says they can launch off of MiG jets. So they have what they need for launching. I would love to see the Ruskie faces when they see UA jets launch from 50km back at high altitude and missiles inbound for targets 200km behind the lines!! Storm Shadow down your throats!! |
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Originally Posted By RockNwood: Article says they can launch off of MiG jets. So they have what they need for launching. I would love to see the Ruskie faces when they see UA jets launch from 50km back at high altitude and missiles inbound for targets 200km behind the lines!! Storm Shadow down your throats!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By burnka871: I wonder what they plan on launching them off of Article says they can launch off of MiG jets. So they have what they need for launching. I would love to see the Ruskie faces when they see UA jets launch from 50km back at high altitude and missiles inbound for targets 200km behind the lines!! Storm Shadow down your throats!! Will they be guided by NATO's real time data? |
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Originally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg View Quote Wow! Now there is a serious game changer! It is also way ahead of the anticipated delivery schedule. That said, I imagine any deliveries of these missiles will be in extremely small numbers, so Ukrainians will likely reserve these for the most lucrative of targets. I suspect this will motivate any fence sitters currently left in Crimea to get the fuck out of Dodge while the Kerch Strait Bridge is still standing. |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Wow! Now there is a serious game changer! It is also way ahead of the anticipated delivery schedule. That said, I imagine any deliveries of these missiles will be in extremely small numbers, so Ukrainians will likely reserve these for the most lucrative of targets. I suspect this will motivate any fence sitters currently left in Crimea to get the fuck out of Dodge while the Kerch Strait Bridge is still standing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg Wow! Now there is a serious game changer! It is also way ahead of the anticipated delivery schedule. That said, I imagine any deliveries of these missiles will be in extremely small numbers, so Ukrainians will likely reserve these for the most lucrative of targets. I suspect this will motivate any fence sitters currently left in Crimea to get the fuck out of Dodge while the Kerch Strait Bridge is still standing. The Kerch bridge has to be #1 target for these. No other target can have as much impact. The Black Sea ports and the huge depots in Luhansk oblast. And anything major that assist them getting to Mariupol. |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Wow! Now there is a serious game changer! It is also way ahead of the anticipated delivery schedule. That said, I imagine any deliveries of these missiles will be in extremely small numbers, so Ukrainians will likely reserve these for the most lucrative of targets. I suspect this will motivate any fence sitters currently left in Crimea to get the fuck out of Dodge while the Kerch Strait Bridge is still standing. View Quote Yup, long range surface skimming missile 990 lb bunker penetrating warhead with that range seems a perfect fit for knocking down the bridge. |
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Anyone seen any evidence of the GLSDBs being used? I see articles where Russia claimed to down one but I have not seen any footage of them in action. I've seen some video of jdams, patriot, and Excalibur in action. Lots of himars launches but not any description as to what is getting launched.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: The 35mm AHEAD projectile is really a game changer in terms of hit probability. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Derac-Son-2/publication/264020173/figure/fig4/AS:667835772719109@1536235864190/Color-online-Compensating-method-of-muzzle-velocity-variation-the-receive-coils.png View Quote |
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-lacks-almost-everything-needed-to-rearm-former-general-says-2023-5?amp View Quote Vad is the ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Wow! Now there is a serious game changer! It is also way ahead of the anticipated delivery schedule. That said, I imagine any deliveries of these missiles will be in extremely small numbers, so Ukrainians will likely reserve these for the most lucrative of targets. I suspect this will motivate any fence sitters currently left in Crimea to get the fuck out of Dodge while the Kerch Strait Bridge is still standing. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By RockNwood: The Kerch bridge has to be #1 target for these. No other target can have as much impact. The Black Sea ports and the huge depots in Luhansk oblast. And anything major that assist them getting to Mariupol. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Banditman: Will they be guided by NATO's real time data? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By burnka871: I wonder what they plan on launching them off of Article says they can launch off of MiG jets. So they have what they need for launching. I would love to see the Ruskie faces when they see UA jets launch from 50km back at high altitude and missiles inbound for targets 200km behind the lines!! Storm Shadow down your throats!! Will they be guided by NATO's real time data? They probably don’t have data connection with the launching aircraft, so I expect they will program a route and target into the missile on the ground, and the software will give a zone the pilots need to launch it from. That way there is no electronics integration that needs to be done to use the weapons, just the mechanics of mounting the weapons. |
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Originally Posted By AROKIE: Hell yes!!!! Lets kick this thing off! cant wait to see the targets they chose to decimate with these bad boys! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg Hell yes!!!! Lets kick this thing off! cant wait to see the targets they chose to decimate with these bad boys! I have a dream of one day them catching a Russian sub at the dock in Sevestapol. |
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Originally Posted By m35ben: I'm not sure hitting the bridge is the best play politically right now. We have seen traffic jams at the bridge lately. While blasting the bridge will be beneficial doing so and blowing up several civilians will hand Russia a huge propaganda tool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Wow! Now there is a serious game changer! It is also way ahead of the anticipated delivery schedule. That said, I imagine any deliveries of these missiles will be in extremely small numbers, so Ukrainians will likely reserve these for the most lucrative of targets. I suspect this will motivate any fence sitters currently left in Crimea to get the fuck out of Dodge while the Kerch Strait Bridge is still standing. Blast the in-bound lane to prove a message. |
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Originally Posted By m35ben: I'm not sure hitting the bridge is the best play politically right now. We have seen traffic jams at the bridge lately. While blasting the bridge will be beneficial doing so and blowing up several civilians will hand Russia a huge propaganda tool. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Wow! Now there is a serious game changer! It is also way ahead of the anticipated delivery schedule. That said, I imagine any deliveries of these missiles will be in extremely small numbers, so Ukrainians will likely reserve these for the most lucrative of targets. I suspect this will motivate any fence sitters currently left in Crimea to get the fuck out of Dodge while the Kerch Strait Bridge is still standing. I think it depends on how many they have and where their offensive will hit. If they are marching to the Azov Sea I think hitting as many rail bridges deep behind the lines as possible limiting Russia’s ability to rotate forces by rail would be top priority. Force them to burn up fuel to maneuver. Ultimately the Kerch bridge needs to come down and it’s going to be loaded with civilian evacuees at that point. Best hope would be taking out the rail section of the bridge and maybe Russia turns all the vehicle lanes into supply into Crimea which would prevent casualties to civilians. That relies on Russia though and the ability to surgically take down part of the bridge. At the end of the day the Russian citizens in Crimea were imported by Russia after having kidnapped the natives to relocate into the far east. Their hands aren’t exactly clean in this. |
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Originally Posted By Shistavan: They probably don’t have data connection with the launching aircraft, so I expect they will program a route and target into the missile on the ground, and the software will give a zone the pilots need to launch it from. That way there is no electronics integration that needs to be done to use the weapons, just the mechanics of mounting the weapons. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Shistavan: Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By burnka871: I wonder what they plan on launching them off of Article says they can launch off of MiG jets. So they have what they need for launching. I would love to see the Ruskie faces when they see UA jets launch from 50km back at high altitude and missiles inbound for targets 200km behind the lines!! Storm Shadow down your throats!! Will they be guided by NATO's real time data? They probably don’t have data connection with the launching aircraft, so I expect they will program a route and target into the missile on the ground, and the software will give a zone the pilots need to launch it from. That way there is no electronics integration that needs to be done to use the weapons, just the mechanics of mounting the weapons. That's how the storm shadow works, nothing is input from pilot or plane. Target data is all downloaded on the ground |
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Originally Posted By yekimak: Anyone seen any evidence of the GLSDBs being used? I see articles where Russia claimed to down one but I have not seen any footage of them in action. I've seen some video of jdams, patriot, and Excalibur in action. Lots of himars launches but not any description as to what is getting launched. View Quote Yes the videos are out there and have been posted here but I don't remember what page. |
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Siden noten, it's a bonkers morning in Germany.
+++ In this second there were more small explosions. They are probably caused by the access of the special task force.
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Originally Posted By Prime: Siden noten, it's a bonkers morning in Germany. +++ In this second there were more small explosions. They are probably caused by the access of the special task force.
View Quote No context at all. What’s going on? |
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Originally Posted By bikedamon: As a Cold War kid who did a lot of airplane models and overall am an aviation junkie it’s pretty crazy and cool at the same time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Dracster: "Su-25 of the 299th tactical aviation brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force, armed with the American Zuni NAR." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-05-10_04-09-53_jpg-2812780.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-05-10_04-09-53__2__jpg-2812781.JPG As a Cold War kid who did a lot of airplane models and overall am an aviation junkie it’s pretty crazy and cool at the same time. Same here. |
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https://twitter.com/PaulJawin/status/1656633248498237445 Cleaning of trenches in the Bakhmut district by the soldiers of the Defense Forces of Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By m35ben: I'm not sure hitting the bridge is the best play politically right now. We have seen traffic jams at the bridge lately. While blasting the bridge will be beneficial doing so and blowing up several civilians will hand Russia a huge propaganda tool. View Quote Eventually (and probably not long from now) Russian military assets will take precedent over civilians trying to flee across the bridge. Orcs will run over them or push them into the river to get across. THAT'S when you rain hellfire on the bridge and keep dropping gut busters on the orc fish food swimmers Call it the "Filet Pocket". |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Britain prepares to send long-range missiles to Ukraine The U.K. is pushing the Biden administration into providing Ukraine with weapons that can reach further into Russian-held territory https://archive.ph/EWtZ6 Britain, which has prided itself on being ahead of its Western allies in introducing new weapons systems to Ukraine, now appears poised to send Kyiv the long-range missiles the Biden administration has long denied it. No final decision has been made, according to a British official who declined to confirm the type, timing or quantity of weaponry under consideration. But the notice is a substantive step toward Britain itself supplying such munitions, and the requested specifications and capabilities closely match its air-launched Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Ukraine has long pleaded with Western nations for longer range missiles, arguing that such weapons could change the course of the war by allowing its forces to target Russian command centers, supply lines, ammunition and fuel dumps deep inside Crimea and Russian-held territory in eastern Ukraine. As Kyiv prepares to launch a major counteroffensive as soon as within the next several weeks, the ability to strike far behind Russia’s front lines would help clear the way for a ground assault with tanks and infantry troops. Storm Shadows can be mounted on Ukraine’s Soviet-made jets and reach into Russian territory. Kyiv has long sought that capability, and tried to ease Western escalation fears with pledges it would refrain from using donated weapons in such attacks. “If we could strike at a distance of up to 300 kilometers, the Russian army wouldn’t be able to provide defense and will have to lose,” Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov told the European Union earlier this year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Shadow British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has dismissed talk among Ukraine’s benefactors of their depleted stockpiles. “If there is a moment in this conflict we can make a difference, why not seize it? What are we waiting for?” he asked of European allies at the Munich Security Conference in February. “What is the purpose of these stockpiles? If the weapons are degrading Russian armed forces, that is increasing our security.” View Quote I have to assume that all these announcements of "considering" sending this or that must be some diplomatic technique of manipulation. Either attempting to get Russia to do/not do something or some allies to do/not do something. Otherwise it gets infuriating, all the dithering in public. Just send the help they need and let us see Russian depots mysteriously blowing up or STFU already. |
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Originally Posted By fadedsun: Sink the Black Sea fleet! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg Sink the Black Sea fleet! There will be other surprises when the offensive starts. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By m35ben: I'm not sure hitting the bridge is the best play politically right now. We have seen traffic jams at the bridge lately. While blasting the bridge will be beneficial doing so and blowing up several civilians will hand Russia a huge propaganda tool. View Quote Ukraine should put out a tweet that they're hitting the bridge in 1 hour, and watch hilarity ensue |
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Originally Posted By yekimak: Anyone seen any evidence of the GLSDBs being used? I see articles where Russia claimed to down one but I have not seen any footage of them in action. I've seen some video of jdams, patriot, and Excalibur in action. Lots of himars launches but not any description as to what is getting launched. View Quote I suspect those are being saved up for the counteroffensive. Orders were placed for the systems to be built back in September or October for an "Eastern European customer." According to Boeing. ![]() Imagine having all of your logistics and HQ's for a year be safe from Himars 80 km from the front. Then suddenly a Ukrainian offensive kicks off and now nothing is safe out to 150km. Then the Storm Shadows come in at very long range against high value targets on top of that. |
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They are so screwed.
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Originally Posted By RockNwood: Some good points. The Russian infantry isn’t improving. They rely heavily on artillery. I think the long range weapons like storm shadow could further crimp their logistics. Some analyst said that after HIMARS arrived Russia had to move its supply depots back 30km. This required ten times more trucks which they do not have to move ammo to the front and resulted in a dramatic drop in shells per day being fired. Force those depots back 100-200km and blow more rail bridges and Russian logistics would grind to a halt. View Quote Yes but ESCALATION!!! pee running down my leg...#Biden |
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-lacks-almost-everything-needed-to-rearm-former-general-says-2023-5?amp View Quote I eagerly await the day that Germany issued it first order for a Polish produced K2 |
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Russia may be digging and prepping positions for 300K troops but I doubt they have anything close to that manpower. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fvxvg_9WcAI8ucs?format=jpg&name=largerussia is gonna get its shit pushed in. Russia may be digging and prepping positions for 300K troops but I doubt they have anything close to that manpower. I think given the amount of time for prepping this along with all the aid coming up…this will be near a carbon copy of our assault on Iraq… |
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Another successful surrender.
Turkish Otokar Cobra II 4x4 in service with the Armed Forces 🇺🇦
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Originally Posted By AROKIE: Lol you know he's stacked deep with tail. I also bet he never has to buy a drink at the bar on his day off, if he gets one lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By ERNURSE: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By Lightning_P38: Originally Posted By RockNwood:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0726-2811728.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0725-2811729.jpg No, some things never change, and the Knights of the sky are one of those things. The machines become faster, fly higher and have weapons more terrible, but the men fly them are the same, fearless, brash, arrogant and perfectly fine knowing that either they or their opponent is going to die. That was exactly my impression. I pray we are giving Ukraine something to improve the odds for their pilots. Very brave to go up when the enemy can target you at 60 km and you can only get 20km. I can see him sitting in the cockpit of a WW2 spitfire fighting for England. He nailed the jacket/sweater in the second photo, that's the OG look. Dude has to be pulling tail. Lol you know he's stacked deep with tail. I also bet he never has to buy a drink at the bar on his day off, if he gets one lol Sorry. That cat sets off every gaydar. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Includes a 4 minute video of test footage and real strikes using Storm Shadow, for future reference.
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Originally Posted By m35ben: I'm not sure hitting the bridge is the best play politically right now. We have seen traffic jams at the bridge lately. While blasting the bridge will be beneficial doing so and blowing up several civilians will hand Russia a huge propaganda tool. View Quote Agreed. If all the Russians are fleeing Crimea, leave the bridge open and let them GTFO. If they start flooding in mil. equipment (T-34M and lend-lease halftracks) them maybe hit the bridge. |
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Originally Posted By RockNwood: Hallelujah!!! Storm Shadows arriving!! Way ahead of hinted deliveries. Anxious to get more details!!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/uk-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-ukraine/index.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_0755-2812957.jpg View Quote Boom! UK showing up. I love it. |
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Coal fired Tochka launches.
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14 hours ago, Russian source Wagner.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote How about they announce this kind of stuff by sinking something first! |
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