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Posted: 6/8/2023 6:17:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey:
"I have kept quiet on the counteroffensive and this is by design. But I want to say this: The Russian troops at many parts of the frontline are getting pounded by tubed and rocket artillery, Storm Shadow, JDAMs etc. Sometimes tanks and IFVs join the fray. The long range strikes such as in Tokmak and Melitopol in the last hours are even more interesting. Most if not all of that "repelled" attacks Russians claim are in fact them surviving barrage after another one and having a chance to report them. In some limited cases Ukrainian forces launch probing attacks and even get through. There are already permanent liberated areas, but that is not the purpose of probing attacks. Those few videos which sometimes appear are almost all videos from Russian sources and obviously cherry-picked. But they are not impressive either. Yes, when an army advances or launches probing attacks there are inevitable losses. During D-Day allies lost 2000 men in the first hour. But the enemy loses far more and, more importantly, the enemy has already to react in a forced way. The main strike hasn't arrived, yet. It can arrive anywhere and anytime at the front, even areas which have not been intensively shelled. Btw. I'm still on track with my predictions. Russians, however, are currently burning down their limited (mobile) reserves which they have in order to deal with the current situation. Intelligence gathering plays an important role at this stage, too, without going into details. Overall what I see right now is what I would expect from an Ukrainian counteroffensive. Keep calm and wait for the events to unfold"  Attached File |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2023 6:18:44 AM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 6/8/2023 6:19:17 AM EDT
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Info on the NPP
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-162-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine Work is ongoing at Ukraine's Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) to ensure it has maximum amounts of cooling water in reserve, in case it can no longer access the nearby Kakhovka reservoir which is continuing to drop after its downstream dam was damaged earlier this week, Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said today. The reservoir's water level has so far declined by around 2.8 metres since the dam was breached early on Tuesday, reaching 14.03 metres by 6 pm local time today, Director General Grossi said. However, the hourly loss rate has slowed slightly, to between 5 and 7 centimetres per hour from a peak of around 11 cm/hour yesterday, he added, citing information from the IAEA's experts present at the ZNPP. If the level falls below 12.7 metres, the ZNPP will no longer be able to pump water from the reservoir to the site. As the full extent of the dam's damage remains unknown, it is not possible to predict if and when this might happen. If the current drop rate were to continue, however, the 12.7 metre level could be reached within the next two days (the heights used are relative to the Baltic Sea known as the Baltic Heights System). Preparing for such a possibility, the ZNPP is continuously replenishing its water reserves including the large cooling pond next to the plant as well as its smaller sprinkler cooling ponds and the adjacent channels by fully utilizing the water of the Kakhovka reservoir while this still remains possible. When full, these water sources will be sufficient to provide the plant with the water it needs to cool its six reactors as well as its spent fuel for several months. Even though the ZNPP's six reactors are all in shutdown mode, they still require cooling water to prevent fuel melt and a possible release of radioactive material, Director General Grossi said. The possible lack of access to the Kakhovka reservoir has underlined the need to keep the ZNPP's other water sources intact, particularly the large cooling pond near the site, as well as the discharge channel of the nearby Zaporizhzhya Thermal Power Plant (ZTPP) which is used to bring water from the reservoir to the ZNPP site. "It is essential that the integrity of both the ZNPP cooling pond and of the ZTPP discharge channel is maintained. This is critical so the plant has sufficient water to provide essential cooling to the site for the months ahead," Director General Grossi said. Director General Grossi will travel to the ZNPP next week to assess the situation there following the damage to the dam and to monitor compliance with the five basic principles for protecting the ZNPP that he presented to the United Nations Security Council on 30 May. In view of the IAEA's intensifying activities under the newly established principles, he will also strengthen the IAEA's presence at the site, replacing the current team with a larger group travelling with him across the frontline. "Now more than ever, the IAEA's reinforced presence at the Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant is of vital importance to help prevent the danger of a nuclear accident and its potential consequences for the people and the environment at a time of increased military activity in the region. The possible loss of the plant's main source of cooling water further complicates an already extremely difficult and challenging nuclear safety and security situation," he said. Five of the ZNPP's six reactors are in cold shutdown. One unit remains in hot shutdown to produce process steam on site for operations such as the treatment of liquid radioactive waste which is collected from the six reactors even during the shutdown state of the reactors. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 6:43:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Phocks: From a lawyers point of view, the "may" there is key. No actual damage at all needs to occur, just a possibility. I doubt there's any solid precedent on this too. Regardless, the Russians have already violated so many other treaties and laws, no point in quibbling over this one. If they lose bad enough to have leaders put on trial, the dam attack will be the least of the charges, and if they don't lose that badly they won't care. The Victors write the history. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 6:50:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: What kind of optics do the A4's have? If it's real, I'm wondering why they'd attack in daylight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Leopard 2A4 in combat, allegedly a failed attack Beware, it's from a Russian source! What kind of optics do the A4's have? If it's real, I'm wondering why they'd attack in daylight.  Driver, gunner and TC are having thermal imagers for a full night-fighting capability. Depending on the exact sub version and the country that provided the tanks, different systems are in use, this should be the most common in the A4 version: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBG-X |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:19:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: (From Russian TG) "Here, our friends from the 40th Marine Brigade searched the abandoned bodies and equipment of their "colleagues" Marines from the 37th OBrMP of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Novodonetsk and brought various documents. Not only passports are interesting here. You would have seen how much waste paper the enemy brought with him to the assault. There are reports, and lists of personnel, and tables of callsigns together with combat control signals, staff schedules, distribution lists of dry rations and ammunition... Someone even went into the attack with a medical card, while someone held a bank contract under their heart. Now Novodonetsk is again under our control, the enemy was successfully defeated and cleared during the counterattack. Previously, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost about 50 personnel." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-27_jpg-2843732.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-28_jpg-2843733.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-29__2__jpg-2843734.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-30_jpg-2843735.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-31_jpg-2843736.JPG Why not photograph their bodies? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:25:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Why not photograph their bodies? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:26:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Why not photograph their bodies? This would be disrespectfull!  
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:29:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: (From Russian TG) "Here, our friends from the 40th Marine Brigade searched the abandoned bodies and equipment of their "colleagues" Marines from the 37th OBrMP of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Novodonetsk and brought various documents. Not only passports are interesting here. You would have seen how much waste paper the enemy brought with him to the assault. There are reports, and lists of personnel, and tables of callsigns together with combat control signals, staff schedules, distribution lists of dry rations and ammunition... Someone even went into the attack with a medical card, while someone held a bank contract under their heart. Now Novodonetsk is again under our control, the enemy was successfully defeated and cleared during the counterattack. Previously, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost about 50 personnel." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-27_jpg-2843732.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-28_jpg-2843733.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-29__2__jpg-2843734.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-30_jpg-2843735.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2023-06-07_13-33-31_jpg-2843736.JPG Operation Mincemeat? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:31:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: No, it isnt. Not even close. Operation Chastise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chastise Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: Originally Posted By ERNURSE: Yes but he amount of water and destructions rivals all that put together. No, it isnt. Not even close. Operation Chastise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chastise The two direct mine hits on the M hnesee dam resulted in a breach around 250 feet (76 m) wide and 292 feet (89 m) deep. The destroyed dam poured around 330 million tons of water into the western Ruhr region. A torrent of water around 33 feet (10 m) high and travelling at around 15 miles per hour (24 km/h) swept through the valleys of the M hne and Ruhr rivers. A few mines were flooded; 11 small factories and 92 houses were destroyed and 114 factories and 971 houses were damaged. The floods washed away about 25 roads, railways and bridges as the flood waters spread for around 50 miles (80 km) from the source. Estimates show that before 15 May 1943 steel production on the Ruhr was 1 million tonnes;[citation needed][clarification needed] this dropped to a quarter of that level after the raid. The Eder drains towards the east into the Fulda which runs into the Weser to the North Sea. The main purpose of the Edersee was then, as it is now, to act as a reservoir to keep the Weser and the Mittellandkanal navigable during the summer months. The wave from the breach was not strong enough to result in significant damage by the time it hit Kassel, approximately 22 miles (35 km) downstream. The greatest impact on the Ruhr armaments production was the loss of hydroelectric power. Two power stations (producing 5,100 kilowatts) associated with the dam were destroyed and seven others were damaged. This resulted in a loss of electrical power in the factories and many households in the region for two weeks. In May 1943 coal production dropped by 400,000 tons which German sources attribute to the effects of the raid.[37] According to an article by German historian Ralf Blank [de],[38] at least 1,650 people were killed: around 70 of these were in the Eder Valley, and at least 1,579 bodies were found along the M hne and Ruhr rivers, with hundreds missing. Of the bodies found downriver of the M hne Dam, 1,026 were foreign prisoners of war and forced labourers in different camps, mainly from the Soviet Union. Worst hit was the city of Neheim (now part of Neheim-H sten) at the confluence of the M hne and Ruhr rivers, where over 800 people perished, among them at least 493 female forced labourers from the Soviet Union. Some non-German sources cite an earlier total of 749 for all foreigners in all camps in the M hne and Ruhr valleys as the casualty count at a camp just below the Eder Dam.[32]) One source states that the raid was no more than a minor inconvenience to the Ruhr's industrial output, although that is contradicted by others.[39] The bombing boosted British morale.[40] I don't know about destruction, rate of discharge, or topography but the volume of water in Kakhovka Reservoir is 18+ cubic kilometers. Probably 50 times the Mohne Reservoir. Not taking a position in the discussion but I was surprised to learn about the volume. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:36:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Driver, gunner and TC are having thermal imagers for a full night-fighting capability. Depending on the exact sub version and the country that provided the tanks, different systems are in use, this should be the most common in the A4 version: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBG-X Do you think it would be odd to go on offense with them in daylight? Or am I looking too much into that? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:39:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Trump is exactly like Russia Today - take a nugget of truth and surround it with a truckload of BS. A real stable genius. Remember, Trump is an outsider in DC. He didn't call it the swamp for nothing. Both sides of the aisle were fine with their handouts, collusion and back door politics. Trump wanted a more "Nationalist" country, not a NWO climate where China, Russia and whomever makes their secret deals in exchange for access into the US industries. No, Trump is not a saint, but just about everyone was and is against him because he didn't want to play their crooked game. Thats why some love his ideals, pro business stance, so forth. If you don't agree, show me where all the corruption, bad policies and backstabbing was his fault. Plenty of blame to go around. Now, back to the screw Ruasia thread... |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:41:25 AM EDT
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Tokmak, here they come.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:46:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Driver, gunner and TC are having thermal imagers for a full night-fighting capability. Depending on the exact sub version and the country that provided the tanks, different systems are in use, this should be the most common in the A4 version: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBG-X Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Leopard 2A4 in combat, allegedly a failed attack Beware, it's from a Russian source! What kind of optics do the A4's have? If it's real, I'm wondering why they'd attack in daylight. Driver, gunner and TC are having thermal imagers for a full night-fighting capability. Depending on the exact sub version and the country that provided the tanks, different systems are in use, this should be the most common in the A4 version: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBG-X Well we know there will be losses. They have like what 71 leopard 2's ?. Any losses will be replenished with the Abrams and the L A6's coming in the next month or so |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:54:21 AM EDT
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If this happens, there's gonna be a bit of a shitstorm in russia. Stay away from windows, and keep an eye to the sky of you're popping out for vodka
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:55:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Fucking Lancets continue to work all too well. Super important IRS-T Radar likely destoryed: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraines-prized-iris-t-air-defense-system-attacked-by-russian-drone-in-video https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2023/06/07/russia-strikes-ukrainian-air-defense-radar.jpg?auto=webp&crop=16%3A9&auto=webp&optimize=high&quality=70&width=2018 Why would a real tactical air defense system be painted White? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 7:56:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:03:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wwglen: Why would a real tactical air defense system be painted White? It was hoping the privilege would protect it
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:03:50 AM EDT
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 Attached File |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:12:35 AM EDT
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Looking legit
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:16:51 AM EDT
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"Slovakia has been a strong supporter of Kyiv throughout the war, even providing MiG-29 jets to Ukrainian forces.
But ahead of the country's September election, Smer-SD a populist party led by controversial former Prime Minister Robert Fico, which has called for ending military support to Ukraine is leading in the polls." "Merely 58 percent of Slovaks would vote to stay in NATO if a referendum were held, and 66 percent agree with the statement that the "US is dragging Slovakia into a war with Russia because it is profiting from it." The polling tracks with NATO's own research, which found that only 51 percent of Slovaks would vote to remain in NATO, compared to 70 percent overall across the alliance." https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-risks-losing-slovakia-russia-disinformation-president-zuzana-caputova/ |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:17:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m35ben]
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Has anyone seen what the water level is in the Dnipro up by Zaporizhia ?
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:21:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker:
If this happens, there's gonna be a bit of a shitstorm in russia. Stay away from windows, and keep an eye to the sky of you're popping out for vodka Lol awesome |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:21:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: "Slovakia has been a strong supporter of Kyiv throughout the war, even providing MiG-29 jets to Ukrainian forces. But ahead of the country's September election, Smer-SD a populist party led by controversial former Prime Minister Robert Fico, which has called for ending military support to Ukraine is leading in the polls." "Merely 58 percent of Slovaks would vote to stay in NATO if a referendum were held, and 66 percent agree with the statement that the "US is dragging Slovakia into a war with Russia because it is profiting from it." The polling tracks with NATO's own research, which found that only 51 percent of Slovaks would vote to remain in NATO, compared to 70 percent overall across the alliance." https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-risks-losing-slovakia-russia-disinformation-president-zuzana-caputova/ I'm so sick of populists. They can serve as a useful barometer to indicate that something is amiss in the political system or society (at least some of the time), but beyond that they are at best a net negative in their impact. Lately it's just been ridiculous. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:21:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: trapsh00ter99]
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:22:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/29155/nicholson-623133.gif Pack yo shit!! The hammer is coming! |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:25:54 AM EDT
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I know the start of the Twitter thread with Prigozhin's interview was posted, but did y'all see part 3? There's some really key stuff in here.
One idea: Russia is criminally withdrawing their own forces from Belgorod and will deploy a nuke on their own territory. Nuking themselves will show they mean business, but won't provoke a nuclear response. Not his idea, something he thinks might happen. It actually sounds plausible. He also gives MoD a deadline of two weeks to expel invaders from Belgorod, then he's going in with Wagner even if he's told "no." That bit might be a big deal. Positioning himself as a savior of Russia when nobody else will act effectively does a lot to discredit and destabilize the Kremlin. There's potential for real internal conflict, and he knows it, and he's not holding back (at least in talk). |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:27:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Has anyone seen what the water level is in the Dnipro up by Zaporizhia ? Not sure but here is some info on current levels https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-162-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:28:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Has anyone seen what the water level is in the Dnipro up by Zaporizhia ?
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:29:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I know the start of the Twitter thread with Prigozhin's interview was posted, but did y'all see part 3? There's some really key stuff in here.
One idea: Russia is criminally withdrawing their own forces from Belgorod and will deploy a nuke on their own territory. Nuking themselves will show they mean business, but won't provoke a nuclear response. Not his idea, something he thinks might happen. It actually sounds plausible. He also gives MoD a deadline of two weeks to expel invaders from Belgorod, then he's going in with Wagner even if he's told "no." That bit might be a big deal. Positioning himself as a savior of Russia when nobody else will act effectively does a lot to discredit and destabilize the Kremlin. There's potential for real internal conflict, and he knows it, and he's not holding back (at least in talk). -Prigozhin says I'm going in with Wagner to fix this -Putin nukes Prigozhin in Russia If only we could get so lucky lol |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:31:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:32:07 AM EDT
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Orcs
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:32:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: I'm so sick of populists. They can serve as a useful barometer to indicate that something is amiss in the political system or society (at least some of the time), but beyond that they are at best a net negative in their impact. Lately it's just been ridiculous. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By strykr: "Slovakia has been a strong supporter of Kyiv throughout the war, even providing MiG-29 jets to Ukrainian forces. But ahead of the country's September election, Smer-SD a populist party led by controversial former Prime Minister Robert Fico, which has called for ending military support to Ukraine is leading in the polls." "Merely 58 percent of Slovaks would vote to stay in NATO if a referendum were held, and 66 percent agree with the statement that the "US is dragging Slovakia into a war with Russia because it is profiting from it." The polling tracks with NATO's own research, which found that only 51 percent of Slovaks would vote to remain in NATO, compared to 70 percent overall across the alliance." https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-risks-losing-slovakia-russia-disinformation-president-zuzana-caputova/ I'm so sick of populists. They can serve as a useful barometer to indicate that something is amiss in the political system or society (at least some of the time), but beyond that they are at best a net negative in their impact. Lately it's just been ridiculous. Also of note, Slovakia is another country - along with Hungary and Turkey - that has recently built a nuclear power plant extension with Rosatom. "Slovakia is building two Russia-designed VVER-440 units at Mochovce, about 100 km east of the capital Bratislava." "Operation of the new unit, Slovakia's fifth, could bring the share of nuclear in the country's electricity generation to 65%, putting it second behind only France, with 69%." https://www.nucnet.org/news/mochovce-3-reaches-first-criticality-set-for-commercial-operation-in-2023-10-2-2022 |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:34:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Not sure where on the reservoir this is but you can get an idea
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:35:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:39:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: I'm so sick of populists. They can serve as a useful barometer to indicate that something is amiss in the political system or society (at least some of the time), but beyond that they are at best a net negative in their impact. Lately it's just been ridiculous. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By strykr: "Slovakia has been a strong supporter of Kyiv throughout the war, even providing MiG-29 jets to Ukrainian forces. But ahead of the country's September election, Smer-SD a populist party led by controversial former Prime Minister Robert Fico, which has called for ending military support to Ukraine is leading in the polls." "Merely 58 percent of Slovaks would vote to stay in NATO if a referendum were held, and 66 percent agree with the statement that the "US is dragging Slovakia into a war with Russia because it is profiting from it." The polling tracks with NATO's own research, which found that only 51 percent of Slovaks would vote to remain in NATO, compared to 70 percent overall across the alliance." https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-risks-losing-slovakia-russia-disinformation-president-zuzana-caputova/ I'm so sick of populists. They can serve as a useful barometer to indicate that something is amiss in the political system or society (at least some of the time), but beyond that they are at best a net negative in their impact. Lately it's just been ridiculous. Any tiny bit of suffering of the people is their call to answer. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:40:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: Ukraine will need an Israeli Mossad style agency to hunt down Russian war criminals. This is my hope. Not because of blood lust or vengeance, but because the horrendous individuals that would bring about these acts need a reminder that such things are incompatible with their core tenet of self preservation. I remember seeing an interview with the mossad's Peter Malkin as a history-obsessed child where he mentioned wearing gloves to capture Adolf Eichmann because he didn't want to touch someone so vile. Probably the first time I realized that evil was real. I look forward to the pearl clutchers in Europe wringing their hand when some currently young Ukrainian dons the leather gloves to do the necessary a few years down the road. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:51:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker:
If this happens, there's gonna be a bit of a shitstorm in russia. Stay away from windows, and keep an eye to the sky of you're popping out for vodka If true ... PMC Wagner will be at war with the Kremlin ... |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:54:04 AM EDT
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2 hrs ago Russian source.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:56:22 AM EDT
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1 hr ago.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:57:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Somebody tell Tucker about this. This statement was made 60 seconds into the show, without presenting any relevant facts for either side. Really pissed me off. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:58:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:59:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:59:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Orcs
Shelling civilians trying to evacuate is sickening...there is no military around. For what??? Pure terrorism |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:03:32 AM EDT
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2 hrs ago.
STILL OPSEC HIGH: Russian Sources (Redacted) I can tell you that those who know what the "village of XX" is, now clearly understand what the UAF"s objective is in this AO. Also, there are two types of Russian TG channels: those that try to appear objective but are diehard Russian patriots and often pad the truth in their favor; and, the die hard make you vomit ridiculous propaganda proxies who claim the UAF had been defeated, lost 400 leopard tanks and is retreating. What gives me hope right now is that the latter are very loud right now making up more and more garbage and trying to encourage Russian forces to hold their ground. That is the best sign I know of that things are not going well in Mordor since the UAF is totally OPSEC radio silent on this. Note "non-Soviet tanks" comment. XX Front, according to NgP intelligence In the area of the village of XX , the enemy conducts assault operations with large forces, with the support of armored vehicles (up to 30 units of tanks and other armored combat vehicles). According to information that requires verification, non-Soviet-made tanks were seen, we specify. The enemy has penetrated the line of defense and is trying to develop the offensive in depth. At the time of 12 o'clock in the afternoon he had no success. Communication in the area is difficult, we will update the information as far as possible. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:05:19 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: I'm so sick of populists. They can serve as a useful barometer to indicate that something is amiss in the political system or society (at least some of the time), but beyond that they are at best a net negative in their impact. Lately it's just been ridiculous. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By strykr: "Slovakia has been a strong supporter of Kyiv throughout the war, even providing MiG-29 jets to Ukrainian forces. But ahead of the country's September election, Smer-SD a populist party led by controversial former Prime Minister Robert Fico, which has called for ending military support to Ukraine is leading in the polls." "Merely 58 percent of Slovaks would vote to stay in NATO if a referendum were held, and 66 percent agree with the statement that the "US is dragging Slovakia into a war with Russia because it is profiting from it." The polling tracks with NATO's own research, which found that only 51 percent of Slovaks would vote to remain in NATO, compared to 70 percent overall across the alliance." https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-risks-losing-slovakia-russia-disinformation-president-zuzana-caputova/ I'm so sick of populists. They can serve as a useful barometer to indicate that something is amiss in the political system or society (at least some of the time), but beyond that they are at best a net negative in their impact. Lately it's just been ridiculous. Considering how badly the "safe", "conventional" leadership class has mangled policy across the board in Europe, I am not surprised. Banning dairy/cattle farming and talk of slaughtering herds, power issues and Germany's anti-nuke stance which resulted in a 180 on coal, the Western European 180 on Russia post-invasion, and a general Western European contempt for "Eastern" issues has consequences. A "Leadership" class that showed some form of actual leadership in the EU/West outside of "flavor of the month" causes that actually pretended to care about actual citizens and their concerns would at least make it somewhat difficult for the Russian propaganda to work so well. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:06:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AZ_Mike]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: “Yes Mr Han our loan was just approved and we were wondering if it’s OK if we swing by this weekend to pick up our hardware rather than waiting for normal freight? Yes, it is rather urgent, what with our inbred neighbor and all. “
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1288-2843788.jpg Russia has suceeded in doubling the world's military spending. People forgot about major war and just got a rude reminder. They are rushing to apply as much lube as possible to the Dildo of Consequences. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:06:34 AM EDT
[#48]
GeoConfirmed News. Reminder that the only reporting coming out of the 'Orikhiv' area is Russian reporting [Ukrainians have Opsec]. Like the previous time they claim they repelled all attacks. History (backed by GeoLocations) pointed out that this was not true in the past: CO = CounterOffensive In the Bakhmut axis [CO 01] Ukrainian Forces are gaining ground. (First Russian Reporting was 'Repelled all attacks') In the Velyka Novosilka axis [CO 02] Ukrainian Forces are gaining ground. (First Russian Reporting, 05 JUN, was 'Repelled all attacks') In the new axis (?), designated by the name 'Tokmak axis" [CO 03], the first Russian reporting is that they repelled all attacks. But... Other reminder: GeoLocations are based on - Russian shared footage of Ukrainian positions/fighting [So the Russians spread the footage themselves and know where the Ukrainians are] - Ukrainian shared footage of Russian positions/fighting [So the Ukrainians shared the footage themselves and know where the Russians are] - In very rare occasions civilians filming but once this is online both parties have the location already if its geolocatable. The Shout Out by Ukrainian military about Opsec is especially for their own civilians who see the Ukrainians passing in their street or backyard and reminds them of the law not make footage nor spreading information about it. Think before you comment. Learn to interpret what you see on the footage. And remember: you don't need to comment, it is not an obligation. GeoConfirmed is a community driven geolocation platform: Thanks to all our volunteers all over the world! 
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:07:44 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Somebody tell Tucker about this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
No ... he has evidence it was the Ukies ... |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:09:21 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Somebody tell Tucker about this. I'm sure the Kremlin will transmit his talking points shortly |
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