Video from Maryinka post-liberation.

A drive inside a Ukrainian military vehicle through devastated Maryinka, on the western approaches to Donetsk city. pic.twitter.com/TCWYpTSO4W

Yaroslav Trofimov  (@yarotrof) April 19, 2022

Foreign policy has nothing to do with this war??? You serious Clark? Have you complained to the members here who keep bringing up Trump as the savior for this conflict?

At least there are some countries that still have some courage.

Anyone who can't point out any flaws in Trump or his behavior is blind. Dude has some serious flaws- they're just not a bad or as numerous as FBO/FJB/FHC.

Of course. I'm not going to get into all the politics during the Obama administration but that is one place to dig into. The whole Crackhead Biden getting the $50K/month job at the Ukrainian company was strong arming Ukraine for personal benefits and waving a carrot on a stick to Ukraine while the administration blocked ALL military sales to Ukraine. Hillary Clinton stopped all military sales to Georgia and to Ukraine (even small arms) when she was Sec. of State. Obama worked to disarm Ukraine as far back as 2005 when he was a senator working with RINO and Moscow frequent flyer Sen. Dick Lugar. I outlined this before. It's a complex dog and pony show.

Love you both, but can you take it to IM?

I looked in a few at the weekend when this thread was dead and thought i had walked into a gay bar

My guess is the Ukrainians will have to hold for at least 48 hours to run down the Russian OPTEMPO.

A big breakthrough before that would be bad, as I don't think the UKRs have a lot of regular units left that are free enough to plug holes.

A massed attack, over limited frontage reduces Russia's logistics shortfalls, and plays to their strengths in Artillery and heavy fires.

 The Vegas shooting threads were a perfect example. There are several members here who can look at the photos and still insist there was no broken window nor shell casings present. The 80 or so page police report likewise doesn’t exist because nothing that can contradict “it was an FBI false  flag” can exist.

Okay.

See my news links on previous page.

Hey man, nice shot.

Another Russian tank lost its turret.
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I know of one, my uncle John

I have interviewed dozens of holocaust survivors.
Take note of this. Russians killed more civilians than German ever did
But, Germans have a conscience and to this day are making reparations
Russians? Not a dime, no soul, dead between the eyes
Japanese. Nothing, nada, don't care the round eyed big nosed bastards deserved it

Likewise the British people once the terror bombing of German civilians became known the people were outraged.
Psychologically that was the biggest defeat of WWII for the British people
Spitfire pilots were heroes, bomber pilots were murderers and war criminals to the people.
Bomber crews hid what they did in the war, they were hated and had the highest suicide rate of veterans in the UK
Discussing this with a guy during the May 1995 50th in London he said his father was a navigator on a Lancaster
He never told anyone and the guy never knew about it. His dad was a teacher and when his students dug up his past he was run out of the school.
He committed suicide and that is how his son learned about his service

Some nationalities have a conscience others do not

IMO (Please note that) Russians have an empty soul unlike any other Caucasian nationality
If you think you can appeal to their humanity you are mistaken

Feels like an appropriate patch:

Southerners don't attend college?

Was it hit twice ?
Or did the ammo cook off all at once ?

It was inevitable.

Just take heart their kill to death ratio is extremely high for the defenders.

Hope the rest of Ukraine is the same.

I feel like this was intended to be too late to affect the outcome.  If so, I hope the Germans have miscalculated.

Yeah, exactly

The russian loitering munitions look to be as shitty as everything else they make.

Common northerner misconception we're all just a bunch of ignorant hayseeds still using outhouses to them.

Yet they all move here cuz the north is so great

I for one have bought my last German car or anything. And I'm basically one generation removed.

This is not the Germany my mom and grandparents came form. Cowards.

Love it when that rotary magazine goes.

Gotta wonder if this at this point UKR leadership isn't considering going scorched earth on Donbas Mariupol etc wherever Russians are massing.

No kidding.

Of course they're dragging their feet. Doing everything they can to stay in Russia's good graces while appearing to be the good little NATO member supporting Ukraine. Buncha pathetic cucks

Seemed pretty obvious as early as the end of 2015, when he started talking about throwing his hat in the ring.

Despite some saying he'd be doing so much better in response to this whole thing, I very seriously doubt it.  This sort of thing just helps to affirm those doubts.

Germany needs kicked the fuck out. Worthless.


They have more balls in one batallion of UA troops than the whole of  Germany.

If you don’t understand why Ukraine cannot compromise on its territory then you simply have not bothered to understand the issues.
This is a war for resources - economic, manpower, and natural.  Eastern Ukraine is the industrial heartland and where most of the mineral resources lie.  Furthermore, huge reserves of natural gas have been discovered under Eastern Ukraine and in the sea off Crimea.  There is enough industry, mining, and energy to propel Ukraine into intergation with Europe.  This is why compromise on these issues is national suicide for Ukraine.
Russia wanted Ukraine’s manpower to add to their own dwindling demographics as well.  Whether they get that or not is up in the air.  If they can kill enough Ukrainians to convince them that to oppose Russia means national annihilation, then it is possible that Russia can force them into servitude. After killing a few million people, anyway.  There are many recent examples from Russian history that this tactic works - Chechnya, Ukraine in the 30s/40s, Romania, Hungary, Finland, The Baltics, East Germany, I can go on.  If we don’t support Ukraine now we will be fighting them in 10 years.
Ukraine could, in theory, give up Crimea IF the mineral rights were stripped from it, but the Russians would simply slant-drill the gas anyway.  They can’t be trusted to keep that arrangement.  Russia also could not accept this because it would require giving up the 12-mile exclusion zone around its major naval base.
Compromising their territory is national suicide for Ukraine, which of course is what Russia wants.  Then they can say “we compromised” while sticking the knife in Ukraine’s back.

Now I understand your posting history.  You’re someone who has bought into the TRUMP! bullshit hook, line, and sinker.  My dad’s the same way so I get it.  It’s unfortunate because you have personalized his propaganda to the extent that you may never be free of it.  He is the greatest enemy of American conservatism in our history - an utterly corrupt and compromised pied piper disguised as a revolutionary.

I think you’re probably struggling with your admiration for Putin too, as you post almost exclusively Russian perspective/talking point videos.  I will grant that you MAY be having second thoughts over this, with Putin’s actions showning him to be the Nazi maniac he is.  Or maybe not - only you know that.  And just so you don’t think I’m being partisan, I will publically admit that I got suckered by Putin too.  In 2014, due to domestic political issues over Clinton/Obama etc, I at least partly bought into Putin’s propaganda regarding Ukraine.  Then it fell mostly out of the news and I didn’t think about it for a while.  When it started heating up again, fortunately I had wised up to the extent I did more of my own research and realized I’d fucked up.  So it can be done.