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Posted: 5/14/2022 10:54:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Ukraine wins 2022 Eurovision  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq9D0O0qOag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEGVYOruLkMeans they get to host 2023 Eurovision  Fucking Awesome!! |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2022 10:56:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: GreyHat]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Believe that was evaluated as a fake. Yes, by idiots who think composite is wood. If there's a SME out there- |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 10:57:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: I will give someone 50 bucks to hit that fucker in the face with a baseball bat and film it for everyone to enjoy. Maybe will smiths wife will make him do it. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 11:06:59 PM EST
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Shit, I just spewed my margarita over that joke
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Posted: 5/14/2022 11:17:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: We are probably seeing the last major war where the human infantryman stands a chance of survival. The future is pretty damn scary. 
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Posted: 5/14/2022 11:51:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Featureless: English suffers as a mix up of multiple root languages. I fly. You fly. We fly. But not "He fly." Californians often will apply consistency to highway nouns, names and numbers, Take the freeway. Take the I(Interstate) 5. Take the Golden State Freeway. But most others will simply say, "Take 5 south." Seems English relies heavily on inflection. The tone and cadence imparts 50% of the information. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 11:54:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Well,yes,a car is different from the car. I speak Estonian,English and German what I would call fluently but don’t actually know all of the rules of English,just what sounds and looks right. If you made me take a high school English exam where I had to dissect sentences I would probably fail but can easily pass as American when typing Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Yeah Russian isn't like that for the most part. (I'm not an expert, but my wife is). It's a cool language, and in fact they think English is odd...why do you need articles anyway? Does "the car" mean something different than "car?“ Well,yes,a car is different from the car. I speak Estonian,English and German what I would call fluently but don’t actually know all of the rules of English,just what sounds and looks right. If you made me take a high school English exam where I had to dissect sentences I would probably fail but can easily pass as American when typing Interesting how the written word filters and error corrects. Reading your posts I would have thought you were born in Kansas City. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 12:01:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbinky: Definitely a moment in this clip that rattled my sphincter. https://i.postimg.cc/RhkJyDnF/Screen-Shot-2022-05-14-at-4-18-53-PM.png Link To Twitter Shit. That is straight out of WWI. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2022 12:03:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Goodn: LOL! You know he lives in Ukraine right? Have you noticed he has been helping distribute aid and fundraise also? A lot of his fundraising is by getting the word out with his Youtube channel. I mean technically his having to leave his home in Ukraine for safety reasons does make him a refugee. I thought at the time he bought the Porsche "boy that was dumb", I wont argue that. But... in the end, As long as its his money that he spent. Who gives a shit? I think he means well, I am not sure he is trying to be disingenuous. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Goodn: Originally Posted By 74HC: War tourist, Johnny FD, pretends to be a war refugee for Youtube income. He distastefully consumes free services and food for real refugees in Poland, only a few days after buying a Porsche in Kyiv. Link is just his title on Youtube, and I don't recommend giving him a view, and thus more income. He's crossed a line on that video. Of course, he's a liberal shithead raised in San Francisco. REFUGEE OF WAR? FLEEING UKRAINE AGAIN. LOL! You know he lives in Ukraine right? Have you noticed he has been helping distribute aid and fundraise also? A lot of his fundraising is by getting the word out with his Youtube channel. I mean technically his having to leave his home in Ukraine for safety reasons does make him a refugee. I thought at the time he bought the Porsche "boy that was dumb", I wont argue that. But... in the end, As long as its his money that he spent. Who gives a shit? I think he means well, I am not sure he is trying to be disingenuous. He's a johnny-come-lately in Ukraine because of the war. Classic definition of a war tourist one finds on Youtube. At least he is more concerned with his safety than some of the war touring youtubers. Me, I'm 25% Ukrainian and have relatives in Lviv. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 12:13:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74HC: He's a johnny-come-lately in Ukraine because of the war. Classic definition of a war tourist one finds on Youtube. At least he is more concerned with his safety than some of the war touring youtubers. Me, I'm 25% Ukrainian and have relatives in Lviv. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74HC: Originally Posted By Goodn: Originally Posted By 74HC: War tourist, Johnny FD, pretends to be a war refugee for Youtube income. He distastefully consumes free services and food for real refugees in Poland, only a few days after buying a Porsche in Kyiv. Link is just his title on Youtube, and I don't recommend giving him a view, and thus more income. He's crossed a line on that video. Of course, he's a liberal shithead raised in San Francisco. REFUGEE OF WAR? FLEEING UKRAINE AGAIN. LOL! You know he lives in Ukraine right? Have you noticed he has been helping distribute aid and fundraise also? A lot of his fundraising is by getting the word out with his Youtube channel. I mean technically his having to leave his home in Ukraine for safety reasons does make him a refugee. I thought at the time he bought the Porsche "boy that was dumb", I wont argue that. But... in the end, As long as its his money that he spent. Who gives a shit? I think he means well, I am not sure he is trying to be disingenuous. He's a johnny-come-lately in Ukraine because of the war. Classic definition of a war tourist one finds on Youtube. At least he is more concerned with his safety than some of the war touring youtubers. Me, I'm 25% Ukrainian and have relatives in Lviv. He was in Ukraine for a good while before the current mess from what I understand. I guess he should just close up shop, give it up and move back to California instead of putting in an actual effort and be an internet commando.  
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Posted: 5/15/2022 12:39:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreyHat: There were leftovers of one on telegram last week, IIRC. Link to fakes and proof of said fakes? |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 12:52:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker:
Really interesting thread here. Well worth the read. That was interesting indeed. Predicting a largescale collapse of RU forces by June-August. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 12:56:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Highly doubt that's orc equipment. Give em hell. It’s not. The words next to the watch say “on location” in Ukrainian. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 12:58:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Na miszti "At the right place" The sound ц makes is a little hard in English No, means on location. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 1:10:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: We are probably seeing the last major war where the human infantryman stands a chance of survival. The future is pretty damn scary. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Circuits: This. Loitering munitions and PGMs, mean any static defense is doomed. You must move to survive. Imagine a trench line with 100 or 200 grenade-dropping drones coming in multiple sorties daily. Or automated swarms. Stealthy high-flying drones identifying targets, calling in fire missions, and lasing shortly before impact if the munitions are beam riders. We are probably seeing the last major war where the human infantryman stands a chance of survival. The future is pretty damn scary. The future is scary for sure. That said, these small drones / suicide munitions are pretty easy to stop compared to 'real' munitions like an artillery shell or missile. About half the kills I've seen on video the Russians could have prevented by parking/basing under a simple elevated tarp. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 1:18:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: That was interesting indeed. Predicting a largescale collapse of RU forces by June-August. Interesting read, particularly about Russian culture’s overly tolerant outlook toward losses leading to poor risk evaluation and thus more losses. Assuming the Ukrainian figures are remotely accurate, the Russian officer corps is being gutted, and you can make a case that the army’s performance is in a downward spiral because of this and the lack of an NCO corps. Worse (for everyone) is that losses in promising midrange and even upper-range personnel will mean that Russia’s military judgment will decline steeply and may lead to more dangerously unpredictable behavior in the future. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 1:25:58 AM EST
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Hmmmm, Austin talked to his Russian partner and asked for an immediate cease fire and negotiation. German chancellor called Putin with same propositions. Safe to say finally collective West see the writing on the wall and there are some intelligent people still left looking at things beyond “ghost of kyev, snake island heros” propaganda.
What sucks is most was preventable and Ukrainian people did not deserve this. Sad. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 1:58:13 AM EST
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Wow. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 2:02:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: Hmmmm, Austin talked to his Russian partner and asked for an immediate cease fire and negotiation. German chancellor called Putin with same propositions. Safe to say finally collective West see the writing on the wall and there are some intelligent people still left looking at things beyond “ghost of kyev, snake island heros” propaganda. What sucks is most was preventable and Ukrainian people did not deserve this. Sad. Wat? |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 2:06:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: Wat? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: Hmmmm, Austin talked to his Russian partner and asked for an immediate cease fire and negotiation. German chancellor called Putin with same propositions. Safe to say finally collective West see the writing on the wall and there are some intelligent people still left looking at things beyond “ghost of kyev, snake island heros” propaganda. What sucks is most was preventable and Ukrainian people did not deserve this. Sad. Wat? LOL disregard, it's chaff. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 2:07:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 715700]
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Pointless.
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Posted: 5/15/2022 2:12:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: LOL disregard, it's chaff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: Hmmmm, Austin talked to his Russian partner and asked for an immediate cease fire and negotiation. German chancellor called Putin with same propositions. Safe to say finally collective West see the writing on the wall and there are some intelligent people still left looking at things beyond “ghost of kyev, snake island heros” propaganda. What sucks is most was preventable and Ukrainian people did not deserve this. Sad. Wat? LOL disregard, it's chaff. I'd guessed, but holy shit. LOL. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 2:15:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: The future is scary for sure. That said, these small drones / suicide munitions are pretty easy to stop compared to 'real' munitions like an artillery shell or missile. About half the kills I've seen on video the Russians could have prevented by parking/basing under a simple elevated tarp. The drones won't always be these cute little homemade ones we're seeing here in this conflict. The trenches were getting torn up by 'real' munitions from the TB-2s in the Nagorno-Kharabak war. Even with the current crop of equipment, a dropped antitank grenade will probably tear through a simple tarp, or get enough resistance to trigger and go off, and I don't think a small air gap will defeat the SFF from penetrating to the tank, track or truck underneath. It might help a bit if there's non-fake ERA - dunno for sure. A dropped frag will still kill you through a tarp, and you can't see it coming to know to run away. Think about it - would you willingly sit under a tarp and roll a frag onto that tarp a few feet over your head? Thermals can see through simple tarps. Anti-thermal observable tarps will need to incorporate mylar sheets (like a space blanket) or similar materials. Anything worth hitting, with substantial overhead cover, will get tasked with a 'real' munition, be it a TB-2, Copperhead, hellfire/brimstone, etc. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 2:20:19 AM EST
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Posted: 5/15/2022 2:52:35 AM EST
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Posted: 5/15/2022 3:18:19 AM EST
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 Black Sabbath ~ War Pigs |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 3:18:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 715700]
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Quote HistoryThis is not a civil war. It is a war of expansion,subjugation and extermination. UA soldier brews up an MTLB with an RPG. Rob Lee (@RALee85) May 15, 2022 |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 3:32:48 AM EST
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*Warning - horrible and graphic. Cannot unsee.”
Incident happened in March - Russian tank ran over a civilian car with a family of three inside. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/uppw0c/graphic_video_old_footage_from_march_in_the/ *Warning - horrible and graphic. Cannot unsee.* |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 3:35:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: mancow]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: This is not a civil war. It is a war of expansion,subjugation and extermination. UA soldier brews up an MTLB with an RPG. Rob Lee (@RALee85) May 15, 2022 Yea I know but the versers still apply and match. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 3:41:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NH_Patriot: @Wreckshooter https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52131/Screenshot_20220514-221404_Connect_IQ-2384227.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NH_Patriot: Originally Posted By Wreckshooter: Anybody know what that watch face is called on the Fenix site? @Wreckshooter https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52131/Screenshot_20220514-221404_Connect_IQ-2384227.jpg Thanks! |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 3:44:16 AM EST
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Posted: 5/15/2022 4:04:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: The drones won't always be these cute little homemade ones we're seeing here in this conflict. The trenches were getting torn up by 'real' munitions from the TB-2s in the Nagorno-Kharabak war. Even with the current crop of equipment, a dropped antitank grenade will probably tear through a simple tarp, or get enough resistance to trigger and go off, and I don't think a small air gap will defeat the SFF from penetrating to the tank, track or truck underneath. It might help a bit if there's non-fake ERA - dunno for sure. A dropped frag will still kill you through a tarp, and you can't see it coming to know to run away. Think about it - would you willingly sit under a tarp and roll a frag onto that tarp a few feet over your head? Thermals can see through simple tarps. Anti-thermal observable tarps will need to incorporate mylar sheets (like a space blanket) or similar materials. Anything worth hitting, with substantial overhead cover, will get tasked with a 'real' munition, be it a TB-2, Copperhead, hellfire/brimstone, etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: The future is scary for sure. That said, these small drones / suicide munitions are pretty easy to stop compared to 'real' munitions like an artillery shell or missile. About half the kills I've seen on video the Russians could have prevented by parking/basing under a simple elevated tarp. The drones won't always be these cute little homemade ones we're seeing here in this conflict. The trenches were getting torn up by 'real' munitions from the TB-2s in the Nagorno-Kharabak war. Even with the current crop of equipment, a dropped antitank grenade will probably tear through a simple tarp, or get enough resistance to trigger and go off, and I don't think a small air gap will defeat the SFF from penetrating to the tank, track or truck underneath. It might help a bit if there's non-fake ERA - dunno for sure. A dropped frag will still kill you through a tarp, and you can't see it coming to know to run away. Think about it - would you willingly sit under a tarp and roll a frag onto that tarp a few feet over your head? Thermals can see through simple tarps. Anti-thermal observable tarps will need to incorporate mylar sheets (like a space blanket) or similar materials. Anything worth hitting, with substantial overhead cover, will get tasked with a 'real' munition, be it a TB-2, Copperhead, hellfire/brimstone, etc. Something like this would have stopped almost all of the HEAT based munitions destroying tanks, by providing standoff distance away from the tank top. Similar to the 'rpg cages' that were basically like chainlink fence; standoff distance kills the HEAT effect.  Likewise, having a 'base' or trenchline covered by a series of tarps would frustrate aiming of the small grenade dropping drones, and would also prevent drones from flying directly into the trench. A loose tarp may also be soft enough to prevent some of the DIY impact detonators from going off. ... TB2's Predators etc are a different story; thats basically the same as a regular air strike. Obviously a tarp wont work there, but infantry has survived the advent of the airstrike, mainly because there are a finite number of large air assets, and these are easier to detect. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 4:06:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: iggy1337]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: Hmmmm, Austin talked to his Russian partner and asked for an immediate cease fire and negotiation. German chancellor called Putin with same propositions. Safe to say finally collective West see the writing on the wall and there are some intelligent people still left looking at things beyond “ghost of kyev, snake island heros” propaganda. What sucks is most was preventable and Ukrainian people did not deserve this. Sad. Just a heads up but that first pagaraph are the points currently being pushed by Russian psyops via social media accounts aimed at westerners. The second paragraph is a more general Russian talking point. And no this could not have been prevented as Russia said it had no intention of invading Ukraine remember  You saw this pop up yesterday yesterday amiright? |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 4:51:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Just a heads up but that first pagaraph are the points currently being pushed by Russian psyops via social media accounts aimed at westerners. The second paragraph is a more general Russian talking point. And no this could not have been prevented as Russia said it had no intention of invading Ukraine remember You saw this pop up yesterday yesterday amiright? No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 5:07:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: Abakan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… What give you that idea? Inflation yes, recession no. Your "break" is just parroting russian propaganda. Stop that shit unless you want to look like Lenins usefull idiot. Economic sanctions are working well, but of course there need to be done more ( the russians I know are ALL telling me that russia is in the progress of imploding economic wise ) |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 5:23:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: iggy1337]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: Originally Posted By iggy1337: Just a heads up but that first pagaraph are the points currently being pushed by Russian psyops via social media accounts aimed at westerners. The second paragraph is a more general Russian talking point. And no this could not have been prevented as Russia said it had no intention of invading Ukraine remember You saw this pop up yesterday yesterday amiright? No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… Ok lol thats not how psyops work. I was kind of hoping against better judgement that you might be legitimatly not fully aware of parroting Russian talking points. Nice touch with the faux concern about Ukrainians having weapons to resist invasion. 'Better give up your guns so the streetgangs dont get angry'  |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 5:43:10 AM EST
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I can’t believe Twitter let’s this guy continue to post. 100% Russian propaganda and disinformation. If you push back at him he blocks you. Deliberately left cold.
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Posted: 5/15/2022 5:51:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… Russia stronk. Two weeks to victory. Ukrainian collapse on Monday. Lol. 
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:13:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… Go look at maps of the lines from the beginning until now and tell me with a straight face that Ukraine lost. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:17:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: iggy1337]
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Barking news
It's Official: Finland wil apply for NATO membership. On Sunday afternoon, President Sauli Niinistö and Prime Minister Sanna Marin (SDP) announced that Finland will seek to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Nato). Niinistö formally made the announcement in Finnish, Swedish and English, saying that Finland was entering a new era. https://yle.fi/news/3-12446441 |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:20:41 AM EST
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He types English like a foreigner, too, who's not quite fully fluent.
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:26:38 AM EST
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Question: Do these orcs stealing washing machines realize without running water at home they are useless?
I think not
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:30:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… Thank fuck the French didn't think like you in the Revolutionary War.... ETA: Tovarisch |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:30:28 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: He types English like a foreigner, too, who's not quite fully fluent. He MAY be an American, but he AIN"T from around here. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:36:47 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… Oh, this is gonna go over like a turd in the punch bowl. I bet you have never heard that expression. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:36:56 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: He types English like a foreigner, too, who's not quite fully fluent. Yup. In several places. “grinded”? |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:41:30 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Something like this would have stopped almost all of the HEAT based munitions destroying tanks, by providing standoff distance away from the tank top. Similar to the 'rpg cages' that were basically like chainlink fence; standoff distance kills the HEAT effect. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I621M6ZCBMw/Tdz01se6ymI/AAAAAAAACB0/-VNXHmCpsDs/s1600/116.JPG Likewise, having a 'base' or trenchline covered by a series of tarps would frustrate aiming of the small grenade dropping drones, and would also prevent drones from flying directly into the trench. A loose tarp may also be soft enough to prevent some of the DIY impact detonators from going off. ... TB2's Predators etc are a different story; thats basically the same as a regular air strike. Obviously a tarp wont work there, but infantry has survived the advent of the airstrike, mainly because there are a finite number of large air assets, and these are easier to detect. Is there a liner for evading thermal? |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 6:50:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: Hmmmm, Austin talked to his Russian partner and asked for an immediate cease fire and negotiation. German chancellor called Putin with same propositions. Safe to say finally collective West see the writing on the wall and there are some intelligent people still left looking at things beyond "ghost of kyev, snake island heros" propaganda. What sucks is most was preventable and Ukrainian people did not deserve this. Sad. If Austin has a "PARTNER" in Russia then Austin is a fucking traitor and should be hung. |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 7:05:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xxflyingturtlexx: No i just mentioned what happened and gave my opinion. I am American so it is not a Russian talking point. Starting with Germany, most European countries are bracing a horrible recession; much more worse than us here in States. I would almost predict Germany taking the biggest hit here. I hate to break it to everyone here. Ukraine lost this war. It might be as early as couple of weeks before it falls and Russia wins the war of attrition. Ukraine military is being grinded slowly. Although the outcome is unfavorable to collective West and US; i am happy to see some people are talking about ceasefire, and agreements rather than sending more weapons to Ukraine which will result in deaths of more Ukrainian soldiers and civilians. A mutual agreement right now is the only way West can save some faces. Economic sanctions clearly did not work, sending weapons only help getting more people killed but not the outcome. Propaganda can only go so far. When the war is lost, not much of Ukraine left, half the EU countries collapsed from energy crisis and recession nobody will care about whatever left of Ukraine. The only way this could change would be an all out Nato military action. And nah that won’t happen… So unnecessary… From Texas you say? |
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Posted: 5/15/2022 7:06:18 AM EST
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Less talking orcish, more smoking orcs.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3017722441778551]Strike on Russian mortar position |
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