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Link Posted: 5/27/2022 12:27:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:


Thanks! I'll dig round some more for some links.
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:
Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:
Any word on how the switchblades are doing?

It was all OMG Switchblades are gonna change the war!

But I haven't see anything about them. Maybe I missed it, I don't know but have any of y'all heard anything?



yes videos are out of them striking targets.. they are killing orcs


Thanks! I'll dig round some more for some links.



there was one not to far back in this thread of one hitting a tank.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 12:31:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Abakan:


Like tires for their trucks?
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Big oof.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 12:34:11 AM EDT
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Holy shit that was awesome!

Someone freeze-framed the hit on the tank.  It was a good shot.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 12:37:42 AM EDT
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Good hit.

That was only about 150 yards. Pissing distance.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 12:38:04 AM EDT
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I just saw a Tweet earlier suggesting Poland is committed to buying 500 M142 HIMARS systems. That would be enough to equip 83+ batteries or 27+ battalions! That is a shitload of heavy rocket artillery and an enormous investment by the Poles, if true. It sounds like they are planning to use the HIMARS down to division level if they are purchasing that many systems, not just as a corps asset. I am so impressed by how committed Poland has become to expanding and modernizing their military. In a few years Poland is going to be a freaking fortress with the mightiest army in Europe.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 12:39:32 AM EDT
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For reference, this is what a rocket or missile will do too a BTR82
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 1:39:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I just saw a Tweet earlier suggesting Poland is committed to buying 500 M142 HIMARS systems. That would be enough to equip 83+ batteries or 27+ battalions! That is a shitload of heavy rocket artillery and an enormous investment by the Poles, if true. It sounds like they are planning to use the HIMARS down to division level if they are purchasing that many systems, not just as a corps asset. I am so impressed by how committed Poland has become to expanding and modernizing their military. In a few years Poland is going to be a freaking fortress with the mightiest army in Europe.
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Considering their terrain, they will have to be very Prussian in their military outlook.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 1:53:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
I just saw a Tweet earlier suggesting Poland is committed to buying 500 M142 HIMARS systems. That would be enough to equip 83+ batteries or 27+ battalions! That is a shitload of heavy rocket artillery and an enormous investment by the Poles, if true. It sounds like they are planning to use the HIMARS down to division level if they are purchasing that many systems, not just as a corps asset. I am so impressed by how committed Poland has become to expanding and modernizing their military. In a few years Poland is going to be a freaking fortress with the mightiest army in Europe.
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They're taking notes, and artillery is doing most of the work for both sides. Poland has always taken the threat of the new soviet union seriously. Remember Fort Trump when Germany was refusing to pay their NATO dues?
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 2:01:01 AM EDT
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I saw her at GSP airport once.  She was a sight to behold, a miracle of aviation.

Damned orcs have ruined so many good things, and for what?  So everyone else can be as miserable as they are?
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 2:54:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
If there are concerns about sending the M270 MLRS and M241 HIMARS rocket artillery systems to Ukraine because Russia may view it as unacceptable, then I think it would be pretty simple to alleviate those concerns. First, simply don't supply Ukraine with the ATACMS tactical ballistic missiles that can be used from this system. Only supply them with 227mm rockets and the 227mm rocket pods. Secondly, make sure the Ukrainian leadership from the top government officials all the way down to battery and section level leaders know that we do not want these systems to used to strike targets inside Russia. I believe the Ukrainians understand that western countries don't want to be dragged into war and will likely cooperate. They will know that we can always cut off the re-supply of additional rockets they will need to sustain their defense and counter-attacks, so this should be a pretty easy request to enforce. Besides, Ukraine already possesses the Tochka-U tactical short range ballistic missile system they can (and have used) to strike strategic targets inside Russia.

Now, I am not saying I actually give a fuck about Russia's concerns. At this point I wouldn't care if we provided them with ATACMS as well and told them to tear Russia a new asshole with them. Russia has probably fired hundreds of Iskander short range ballistic missiles into Ukraine from within Russia and Belarus, so turnabout seems fair play to me. But what I am saying, if Biden and his inner circle are worried that supplying MLRS type systems might be too provocative, there are ways to mitigate those concerns and still give Ukraine what it needs to eject this horde of fucking orcs from their land. And that really is the main goal anyway --- not to strike into Russia, but to defeat and drive out the Russian forces that are attempting to occupy parts of Ukraine.
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Russia may view it as unacceptable? Piss on the russians. Send them over and watch the ruskies lose their mind.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 3:04:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
T62 master strategy:

https://i.redd.it/a7am13guqu191.png
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a boomer sixtytoomer!
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 3:06:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By YaNi05:
Pretty sure it's a MATADOR anti armor rocket.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATADOR
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Believe he was talking about the weapon seen briefly just before that - seemed to have a big rotary magazine, but too narrow a barrel for a grenade, and too big and short for a shotgun. It was weird and I too would like to know what it was.  Maybe a new anti-drone projectile weapon?  IDK - it was very unusual looking and not at all familiar.



Originally Posted By Gunner226:

I have trouble wrapping my head around people being okay with Ukraine giving up territory. ....
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This, plus if the Budapest Memorandum really means nothing, then let's just do the honorable thing and return their nukes. Oops, can't - disposed of them. Oh, OK - we'll replace them like for like from our inventory.

I think were I Blinken, I'd mention that possible option the next time Putin talked about some response to his rape and pillage-fest as "unacceptable."  
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 3:08:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Circuits:

Indeed. Sometimes I start to doubt that there are really Russian trolls here, but then we get a gem like that to let me know the struggle is real.
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Holy fucking shit.

Indeed. Sometimes I start to doubt that there are really Russian trolls here, but then we get a gem like that to let me know the struggle is real.


Always keep in mind that shit like that is only floating around to make  the better, less obvious propaganda believable for the mouthbreathers.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 3:12:25 AM EDT
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That looks like something out of a Scorpo video.



Quick, someone add some anime girl stickers to it.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 3:30:16 AM EDT
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Fuck yeah!
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 4:48:30 AM EDT
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File this one under "No shit".

⚡️ Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi said that in a conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin, he "does not see hope for peace" in Ukraine.

As emphasized on the website of the Italian government, Putin and Draghi discussed "the development of the situation in Ukraine, as well as efforts to find a common solution to the ongoing food crisis and its serious consequences for the world's poorest countries."

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Link Posted: 5/27/2022 7:15:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By weptek911:



Let's find some M-48 and M-60s to add to the mix!
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Weird that in 2022 we may see Leopard 1A4(?) vs T-62 battles.



Let's find some M-48 and M-60s to add to the mix!

Germany has a bunch of Leopard 1s if they ever get off their indecision and find a backbone.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 7:16:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By m00ler03:
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drone footage

Link Posted: 5/27/2022 7:28:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/27/2022 7:32:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Click2Boom:


a boomer sixtytoomer!
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
T62 master strategy:

https://i.redd.it/a7am13guqu191.png


a boomer sixtytoomer!


T-SixtyDeuce!

Link Posted: 5/27/2022 7:52:22 AM EDT
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?? Ukraine War - Ukrainian Foreign Legion Fighters RGW-90 Ambush On Russian BTR | Helmet Cam
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 7:55:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/27/2022 8:18:35 AM EDT
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Just saw this vid. That shit was intense.

Also, looked like the BTR took multiple hits from ATGMs and kept ticking. I would not have thought that those things could do that given their design.

Edit: maybe not ATGMs but shoulder fired anti-armor
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 8:20:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Exactly. NATO accepting is basically making themselves obsolete.
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Ukraine is not part of NATO.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 8:47:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By amanbearpig:

Ukraine is not part of NATO.
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Originally Posted By amanbearpig:
Originally Posted By Prime:

Exactly. NATO accepting is basically making themselves obsolete.

Ukraine is not part of NATO.

I realize that. I guess having reread it it’s more about the UN being toothless and useless. If nobody (NATO included) wants to enforce agreements with Russia, there will be no point in having agreements. Especially with Russia.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 8:48:05 AM EDT
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Because it isnt a fucking house.  And its a shitty analogy.  This is a war. In the Ukraine.

In WWI the Germans came up with this idea, they were going to park their troops in the trenches and shoot Brits with machine guns.  The Brits went over the top and got slaughtered. But the Germans found out their casualties were high.  Why so high? Because prior to the attack they found out that the prep fire barrage were blowing away German infantry.

The thought was, well, what if we don't put our people in the front line? Well, if the front line is thinned out, then every attack the British will gain a few hundred yards.  But it doesn't matter because THEY WILL GAIN IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TON OF ARTILLERY LINED UP.  The only question is whether you want to pack your troops in a tight place in the impact area. If I were the Russians, I would be earnestly hoping you pack all your infantry in trenches and fight for every inch.  I will line up my big guns and pound you.  

Parking your infantry in the front lines to get wiped out by Russian artillery is what the Russians want.

The idea is called mobile defense, or elastic defense.  You put your infantry in the lines, but thin.  You pound the attackers with artillery.  When the attacker does prep fire, he is mostly hitting air because there isn't a lot of infantry there. Where are they?  In the back.  And later they will counterattack. And Take The Ground Back.

If you were at some place like Gettysburg, with its ridges, or Bastogne, with its road junction, and possession of that terrain gives you a big advantage and you can stack bodies because of that terrain, then hold it.  That is now an area defense.  Nothing wrong with that. But if you hold that ground, it better be very valuable because the enemy artillery WILL pound you.  SO the advantage of the ground better be more then the disadvantage of the enemy artillery, and it isnt.

But, METT-T, the Russians have a shit ton of artillery and the ground isn't really tactically useful, its open fields.  The Russians are pounding mostly empty space, and the Ukrainians are killing tanks with artillery and UAVs, and as best I can tell the Ukrainian tanks are not around in large numbers, which indicates that they will eventually wait for the Russians to lose lots of men per yard, then counterattack and take their land back.

We could also argue that the Ukrainians are training people, they have untrained tank crews, and it takes time to do that, so they are buying time as next month they will have a much more capable tank force then today. SO it is better to win next month, then lose tomorrow.

A mobile elastic defense, also known as defense in depth, is a boxer, facing a bigger opponent, who is staying in the fight, wearing out his opponent with blows, dodging haymakers, whittling him down.  He will attack when he can, not in the first round when its stupid and suicidal.  You can hope and pray and rationalize that he goes toe to toe with a puncher, much bigger than him, in the first round. That will go badly.


Here is the old manual

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-90/ch10.htm



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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:


Thats a great analogy, and basically is whats being proposed.



Because it isnt a fucking house.  And its a shitty analogy.  This is a war. In the Ukraine.

In WWI the Germans came up with this idea, they were going to park their troops in the trenches and shoot Brits with machine guns.  The Brits went over the top and got slaughtered. But the Germans found out their casualties were high.  Why so high? Because prior to the attack they found out that the prep fire barrage were blowing away German infantry.

The thought was, well, what if we don't put our people in the front line? Well, if the front line is thinned out, then every attack the British will gain a few hundred yards.  But it doesn't matter because THEY WILL GAIN IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TON OF ARTILLERY LINED UP.  The only question is whether you want to pack your troops in a tight place in the impact area. If I were the Russians, I would be earnestly hoping you pack all your infantry in trenches and fight for every inch.  I will line up my big guns and pound you.  

Parking your infantry in the front lines to get wiped out by Russian artillery is what the Russians want.

The idea is called mobile defense, or elastic defense.  You put your infantry in the lines, but thin.  You pound the attackers with artillery.  When the attacker does prep fire, he is mostly hitting air because there isn't a lot of infantry there. Where are they?  In the back.  And later they will counterattack. And Take The Ground Back.

If you were at some place like Gettysburg, with its ridges, or Bastogne, with its road junction, and possession of that terrain gives you a big advantage and you can stack bodies because of that terrain, then hold it.  That is now an area defense.  Nothing wrong with that. But if you hold that ground, it better be very valuable because the enemy artillery WILL pound you.  SO the advantage of the ground better be more then the disadvantage of the enemy artillery, and it isnt.

But, METT-T, the Russians have a shit ton of artillery and the ground isn't really tactically useful, its open fields.  The Russians are pounding mostly empty space, and the Ukrainians are killing tanks with artillery and UAVs, and as best I can tell the Ukrainian tanks are not around in large numbers, which indicates that they will eventually wait for the Russians to lose lots of men per yard, then counterattack and take their land back.

We could also argue that the Ukrainians are training people, they have untrained tank crews, and it takes time to do that, so they are buying time as next month they will have a much more capable tank force then today. SO it is better to win next month, then lose tomorrow.

A mobile elastic defense, also known as defense in depth, is a boxer, facing a bigger opponent, who is staying in the fight, wearing out his opponent with blows, dodging haymakers, whittling him down.  He will attack when he can, not in the first round when its stupid and suicidal.  You can hope and pray and rationalize that he goes toe to toe with a puncher, much bigger than him, in the first round. That will go badly.


Here is the old manual

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-90/ch10.htm




I don't think he's criticizing mobile defense/defense in depth, he's criticizing euro political leadership for essentially telling Ukraine that if they do that they have to let Russia keep whatever territory they steal in the process because to do otherwise is to become the belligerent actor. The b&e home invasion analogy is apt.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 8:49:55 AM EDT
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Believe he was talking about the weapon seen briefly just before that - seemed to have a big rotary magazine, but too narrow a barrel for a grenade, and too big and short for a shotgun. It was weird and I too would like to know what it was.  Maybe a new anti-drone projectile weapon?  IDK - it was very unusual looking and not at all familiar.





This, plus if the Budapest Memorandum really means nothing, then let's just do the honorable thing and return their nukes. Oops, can't - disposed of them. Oh, OK - we'll replace them like for like from our inventory.

I think were I Blinken, I'd mention that possible option the next time Putin talked about some response to his rape and pillage-fest as "unacceptable."  
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Matador rocket launcher. This is one configuration. I've seen it look a couple different ways, I believe it has to do with a safety cover or something.



https://old.weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/BB04%20-%20MATADOR.html
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:01:46 AM EDT
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What HIMARS Rocket Artillery Systems Can Actually Do For Ukraine
American rocket launchers are not a 'silver bullet' and they come with different levels of capabilities depending on the ammo provided.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/what-himars-rocket-systems-can-and-cant-do-for-ukraine

The maximum range of either of these systems is dependent on what type of munition they're firing. The longest range artillery rockets currently available for the system are the M30 (submunition warhead) and M31 (unitary warhead) precision-guided types, which are GPS/INS guided and can hit targets out to around 43 miles (70 kilometers). The far larger ATACMS missiles can engage threats out to 186 miles (300 kilometers) depending on the variant.

To be sure, a Ukrainian military acquisition of either the M270 or the HIMARS presents clear benefits. The most immediate of these would be fielding a new artillery rocket system that is in production and has a well-established supply chain in place in the West.

From a tactical perspective, MLRS and HIMARS are likely to be generally more accurate systems, even with unguided rockets, than any of the rocket artillery systems that are currently in Ukrainian service. The fact that the same launcher can fire ATACMS gives it additional flexibility and a true long-range standoff precision capability beyond the limitations of traditional MRLS.

At the same time, various factors could impose limitations on the utility of any M270s or M142 delivered to Ukraine, especially early on in their service.

For instance, precision-guided 227mm rockets and ATACMS missiles are not ideally employed in mass volleys against broad area targets, such as the enemy armor or artillery formations that Ukrainian forces are staring down in the Donbas region. Any stocks of guided munitions that get sent along with the launchers could very well be small in quantity, at least initially, anyway. It is not hard to imagine that they would be employed very selectively in instances where the extended range and ability to hit pinpoint targets could be best exploited, with more traditional rockets still providing massed fires against hostile forces. In a pinch, the M30/31s can be used against massed targets, and less rockets are needed to accomplish the intended effects due to their precision, but the precious nature of these weapons would likely only see them used in that manner during dire circumstances.


It's also not clear from CNN's report or any other sources how willing or able the U.S. government would be to send guided 227mm rockets or ATACMS missiles, to begin with. The technology inside those weapons, as well as the highly-automated launcher itself, could prompt concerns about operational security risks in the event they might be captured by Russian forces.

The U.S. military has notably transferred a number of 155mm M777A2 towed howitzers to Ukrainian forces already, but without the networked digital fire control system that is present on those weapons in American service. This also means that those howitzers cannot employ precision-guided shells and limits how quickly and accurately they can engage a target or shift focus to another.

It's also worth noting that there are, at least presently, the only unguided rockets available for the MLRS and HIMARS are loaded with cluster munitions warheads. The submunitions in these warheads, M77 or M85 Dual-Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions (DPICM) depending on the exact variant, have a long history of questionable reliability. Unexploded submunitions can present serious hazards to the safe movement of friendly forces, as well as enemy units, not to mention innocent bystanders.

U.S.-supplied rockets loaded with cluster munitions might raise political, as well as pragmatic issues for Ukraine. The Russian military has been actively criticized for its often indiscriminate employment of cluster munitions, as well as other weapons, in the conflict so far. At the same time, Ukrainian forces have reportedly used their own cluster munitions in the fighting. To date, Russia, Ukraine, and the United States remain among the countries that have declined to sign an international agreement that prohibits the production, stockpiling, and employment of certain cluster munitions.

Questions of the political optics aside, without precision-guided rockets, let alone ATACMS missiles, MLRS and HIMARS would not necessarily offer the Ukrainian military significant new artillery capabilities over the MRLs it has in service now.


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Matador rocket launcher. This is one configuration. I've seen it look a couple different ways, I believe it has to do with a safety cover or something.

https://photo.weaponsystems.net/image/s-lightbox/n-MATADOR/--/img/ws/iw_rl_matador_o1.jpg

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MATADOR has two modes. The photo has the schnoz extended for HEAT mode. You can also fire it in HESH mode and the schnoz is retracted into the warhead.

If you're wondering, 'schnoz' is a technical term. Non-technical people call it a dingus or sometimes a thingamabob.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:03:02 AM EDT
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No, look again. It’s an AK of some sort with an M60 looking flash hider.
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Stand corrected !

Thanks !
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:05:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


Good hit.

That was only about 150 yards. Pissing distance.
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Originally Posted By m00ler03:
Wow!




Good hit.

That was only about 150 yards. Pissing distance.

Wow. Close!
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:07:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:


There was one amazing video of a tank duel in the rubble of bombed out city; the UA tank fired through a series of shattered highrises and killed a russian tank. It was spectacular.

Thats the only tank video I've seen.
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Im sure there have been many tant v tank engagements but getting video to the masses is the limiting factor, even with the drones.

I also think that tank v tank combat happens when something goes wrong tactically (general rule with the Russians). Ideally arty should pound and clear the way for tanks, which move through (unopposed?) supported by infantry. The few vid's we have seen of tank combat seems to be lone tanks either separated from others or more likely sent out piecemeal.
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:
Any word on how the switchblades are doing?

It was all OMG Switchblades are gonna change the war!

But I haven't see anything about them. Maybe I missed it, I don't know but have any of y'all heard anything?
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Right now it kinda feels like they are a flop. Most of the vid's lately are Russians killing Ukrainians
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Originally Posted By mbinky:
File this one under "No shit".

⚡️ Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi said that in a conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin, he "does not see hope for peace" in Ukraine.

As emphasized on the website of the Italian government, Putin and Draghi discussed "the development of the situation in Ukraine, as well as efforts to find a common solution to the ongoing food crisis and its serious consequences for the world's poorest countries."

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The only hope for peace is what somebody is willing to give up. Putin has said he eventually wants all of Ukraine, and more. Much more. And a lot of his friends, buddies, underlings, comrades, generals, and russian average citizens agree with him. They see these other countries as property of russia that was misplaced as result of a terrible series of unfortunate events. They want it all back as they feel it always was theirs and always will be. And they are pissed at the Ukranian citizens who are cocky enough to announce that they are independent. Ukranians  and all the other countries who don't know their place need to be taught a lesson, according to Russia and Russians. They see ukranians like a dog that just jumped up on the chair and stole food off the table while people were actually eating, and the dog knows better.
And of course ukranians see the situation as a foreign nation has troops in their country and are murdering, raping, destroying and pillaging.
Neither side has any intention of compromising.
It seems like the only way for peace is to annihilate the russian army in Ukraine. And I'm sure we all want peace.
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:


MATADOR has two modes. The photo has the schnoz extended for HEAT mode. You can also fire it in HESH mode and the schnoz is retracted into the warhead.

If you're wondering, 'schnoz' is a technical term. Non-technical people call it a dingus or sometimes a thingamabob.
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Originally Posted By stone-age:
Matador rocket launcher. This is one configuration. I've seen it look a couple different ways, I believe it has to do with a safety cover or something.

https://photo.weaponsystems.net/image/s-lightbox/n-MATADOR/--/img/ws/iw_rl_matador_o1.jpg

https://old.weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/BB04%20-%20MATADOR.html


MATADOR has two modes. The photo has the schnoz extended for HEAT mode. You can also fire it in HESH mode and the schnoz is retracted into the warhead.

If you're wondering, 'schnoz' is a technical term. Non-technical people call it a dingus or sometimes a thingamabob.



You mean stand off fuzing probe?
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Originally Posted By Yobro512:




Has there ever been a filmed tank duel? Ever?


We might be coming to a point where none will ever be filmed.
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Originally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By Circuits:
Originally Posted By Yobro512:
I firmly believe tanks don’t ever actually contact each other.

No video evidence in this giant war.

How many active MBT vs active MBT kills in the whole war?

You seem upset that ATGM systems, artillery and AT mines are doing the needful, and Putin and Zelenskyy aren't providing you with the kind of combat you'd prefer to watch, in glorious drone 4K HD?

Maybe a tipping point has been reached in 21st century warfare in which MBTs will never, ever contact each other again, unless someone screwed the pooch tactically?




Has there ever been a filmed tank duel? Ever?


We might be coming to a point where none will ever be filmed.



Panther v's M26 Pershing The Battle of Cologne (Köln)

Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:17:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By Circuits:
Originally Posted By Yobro512:
I firmly believe tanks don’t ever actually contact each other.

No video evidence in this giant war.

How many active MBT vs active MBT kills in the whole war?

You seem upset that ATGM systems, artillery and AT mines are doing the needful, and Putin and Zelenskyy aren't providing you with the kind of combat you'd prefer to watch, in glorious drone 4K HD?

Maybe a tipping point has been reached in 21st century warfare in which MBTs will never, ever contact each other again, unless someone screwed the pooch tactically?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFG2i4y3kXs

Has there ever been a filmed tank duel? Ever?


We might be coming to a point where none will ever be filmed.




There's a pretty well known video of duel between a Panther and a Pershing in Cologne I believe, towards the end of WWll.

Found it.

Sherman vs Panther vs Pershing

Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:18:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mbinky:
File this one under "No shit".

⚡️ Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi said that in a conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin, he "does not see hope for peace" in Ukraine.

As emphasized on the website of the Italian government, Putin and Draghi discussed "the development of the situation in Ukraine, as well as efforts to find a common solution to the ongoing food crisis and its serious consequences for the world's poorest countries."

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It's becoming clear to more and more world leaders that Putin and a free, independent Ukraine cannot exist in the same universe. I dont think Putin will stop attacking Ukraine. Not until he is dead.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:19:13 AM EDT
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https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uyb7hy/surreal_footage_of_ukrainian_serviceman_caught/

Pretty wild video of russian incendiary weapon. Nobody is hurt in this video. It kind of looks like glowing snow. It's at night so it kind of looks like the stars are falling.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:19:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By m00ler03:
Wow!


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It looked like the guy with the NLAW got a hit on that BTR, great footage and sound.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:22:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stone-age:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uyb7hy/surreal_footage_of_ukrainian_serviceman_caught/

Pretty wild video of russian incendiary weapon. Nobody is hurt in this video. It kind of looks like glowing snow. It's at night so it kind of looks like the stars are falling.
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They love those thermite filled magnesium cubes
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:23:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Right now it kinda feels like they are a flop. Most of the vid's lately are Russians killing Ukrainians
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:
Any word on how the switchblades are doing?

It was all OMG Switchblades are gonna change the war!

But I haven't see anything about them. Maybe I missed it, I don't know but have any of y'all heard anything?

Right now it kinda feels like they are a flop. Most of the vid's lately are Russians killing Ukrainians

I’ll bet it’s easier for Ukraine to control the release of video from a modern purpose built system than it is with a COTS drone and an iPhone.
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:24:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


Good hit.

That was only about 150 yards. Pissing distance.
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Originally Posted By m00ler03:
Wow!




Good hit.

That was only about 150 yards. Pissing distance.



Drone footage of his NLAW strike on the BTR.

Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:28:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:30:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
https://i.postimg.cc/T1PsrnpR/5-F4-AEB41-FAD9-4-A1-A-BE0-C-C380-BC1-C2619.jpg

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That should buff out
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:34:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R0N:



You mean stand off fuzing probe?
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Originally Posted By stone-age:
Matador rocket launcher. This is one configuration. I've seen it look a couple different ways, I believe it has to do with a safety cover or something.

https://photo.weaponsystems.net/image/s-lightbox/n-MATADOR/--/img/ws/iw_rl_matador_o1.jpg

https://old.weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/BB04%20-%20MATADOR.html


MATADOR has two modes. The photo has the schnoz extended for HEAT mode. You can also fire it in HESH mode and the schnoz is retracted into the warhead.

If you're wondering, 'schnoz' is a technical term. Non-technical people call it a dingus or sometimes a thingamabob.



You mean stand off fuzing probe?


I will take your word for it :)
Was going to call it a "fuse" then settled on schnoz because obviously wrong is better than subtly incorrect
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:35:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


That looks like something out of a Scorpo video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWQR8SDm5qE

Quick, someone add some anime girl stickers to it.
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


That looks like something out of a Scorpo video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWQR8SDm5qE

Quick, someone add some anime girl stickers to it.


lmao!  What the hell did I just watch?
Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:36:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:


I will take your word for it :)
Was going to call it a "fuse" then settled on schnoz because obviously wrong is better than subtly incorrect
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
Originally Posted By stone-age:
Matador rocket launcher. This is one configuration. I've seen it look a couple different ways, I believe it has to do with a safety cover or something.

https://photo.weaponsystems.net/image/s-lightbox/n-MATADOR/--/img/ws/iw_rl_matador_o1.jpg

https://old.weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/BB04%20-%20MATADOR.html


MATADOR has two modes. The photo has the schnoz extended for HEAT mode. You can also fire it in HESH mode and the schnoz is retracted into the warhead.

If you're wondering, 'schnoz' is a technical term. Non-technical people call it a dingus or sometimes a thingamabob.



You mean stand off fuzing probe?


I will take your word for it :)
Was going to call it a "fuse" then settled on schnoz because obviously wrong is better than subtly incorrect



I think that may be a European term, derive from an older German slang for penis.    

Link Posted: 5/27/2022 9:37:26 AM EDT
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