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Posted: 6/14/2022 2:28:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: As much as I wish we could get guided weapons into UA's hands, I can understand why we may be reluctant to do so. UA is still green on the battlefield as others have pointed out in how equipment was being deployed. That endangers combat valuable equipment and puts it in a position to be destroyed by the enemy and likewise exposing our technology to the enemy. If it were our troops on the battlefield, it would be an orc wasteland. You might train a crew in two weeks to operate the weapon but you're not going to train them where to hide, where to move, how to protect assets in that period of time. They are doing surprisingly well against the many odds. I hope we can give them every advantage. Lol |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:11:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Erno86]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: As much as I wish we could get guided weapons into UA's hands, I can understand why we may be reluctant to do so. UA is still green on the battlefield as others have pointed out in how equipment was being deployed. That endangers combat valuable equipment and puts it in a position to be destroyed by the enemy and likewise exposing our technology to the enemy. If it were our troops on the battlefield, it would be an orc wasteland. You might train a crew in two weeks to operate the weapon but you're not going to train them where to hide, where to move, how to protect assets in that period of time. They are doing surprisingly well against the many odds. I hope we can give them every advantage. Having the grace of Gaod for the Ukrainian's, in order to oust the Ruzzians from Ukraine...wouldn't hurt, either. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:18:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dracster]
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"At the checkpoint in Vasylivka, farmers are forced to throw away tons of vegetables that are being transported for sale from Melitopol to Zaporizhzhia
And all because the invaders prohibit the export of fruits and vegetables from the temporarily occupied territories." Telegram video |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOW: Holy shit Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOW: Originally Posted By Illegible_Signature: Well, I guess Putin was right about Nazis in Europe. Looks like the Germans are bringing back the Panther. Rheinmetall Panther Holy shit Don't get excited. They won't export them to anyone who might actually need them and they'll only buy twelve of them to "keep institutional knowledge" which they'll never use. They might as well buy some Oscar Meyer Wiener trucks and paint them yellow, because that's what Germans are now a days. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:21:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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 Ukraine’s partisans are hitting Russian soldiers behind their own lines In Russian-occupied cities like Melitopol, covert resistance continues The russians took the strategic rail-hub city of Melitopol on the third day of the war, their route apparently greased by Ukrainian turncoats. Controlling the city, a crucial segment of Vladimir Putin’s land bridge to Crimea, has proven somewhat trickier. Every few days brings a surprising report: an armoured train destroyed and a grenade attack on a command post (May 18th); railway tracks and a radar station blown up (May 22nd); a pro-Ukrainian rally (May 29th); and a collaborator’s house hit by an explosion (May 30th). Ukraine claims its partisans have killed more than 100 Russian soldiers behind enemy lines in Melitopol. “Our people are doing everything to make sure the land burns under the feet of the occupiers,” says the town’s mayor, Ivan Fedorov, now safe in Ukrainian-controlled territory. Melitopol is the unofficial capital of Ukraine’s resistance. Since mid-March the war maps produced by the American-based Institute for the Study of War show it covered in stripes, meaning it is territory where partisans are active. But it is far from the only place that has seen such operations. In neighbouring Kherson, a Russian-controlled airbase has been blown up nearly two dozen times. In Enerhodar, Andrii Shevchyk, the collaborationist mayor, was the target of an unsuccessful assassination attempt. In Izyum, hungry Russian soldiers were purportedly given spiked pies by a seemingly friendly old lady, according to a telephone conversation between a Russian soldier and his girlfriend that was intercepted by Ukrainian intelligence; eight of them reportedly ended up dead. When Russians abandon tanks or petrol trucks, Ukrainian farmers tow them away. Reports of explosions at arms dumps trickle in from the occupied regions of Donetsk and Luhansk. Russian reconnaissance UAV "Orlan-10" was shot down by the 58th motorized rifle brigade - information is also available on some of the components used.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:23:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AgeOne: Our government is the weak, corrupt, distortion of reality we claim all others are. This is the weakness putin saw in the west. That is what Putin counted on, statements like yours. But that wasn’t the reality as Russia inserted their junk into a buzzsaw. Russia is getting significantly degraded in a campaign they thought would last a week. We do not know who is going to ‘win’ this, but we already know Russia has lost this. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:28:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Isn't that double angle on the Germany tanks makena weak spot between the chassis and the turret. No. The wedge on the modern Leo2 turret faces isn’t designed to deflect penetrators significantly but to force them to impact the main armor behind them at an angle forcing the rod to shatter. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:32:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: No. The wedge on the modern Leo2 turret faces isn’t designed to deflect penetrators significantly but to force them to impact the main armor behind them at an angle forcing the rod to shatter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: Originally Posted By stgdz: Isn't that double angle on the Germany tanks makena weak spot between the chassis and the turret. No. The wedge on the modern Leo2 turret faces isn’t designed to deflect penetrators significantly but to force them to impact the main armor behind them at an angle forcing the rod to shatter. APFSDS doesn’t really deflect but if you trap it in several pieces of steel vibrating at different frequencies in different directions it can lose effect or shatter. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:52:11 PM EDT
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At this point...I'm praying for divine intervention; but I'm not holding my breath.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:55:18 PM EDT
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Maybe todays equivalent of Poland's Winged Hussars would be in order.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:01:49 PM EDT
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"Satellite images shows: 4 Russian headquarters ELIMINATED by Ukrainian Special Forces"  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:12:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Maybe they can denazify the whole world by killing everyone who isn’t ethnically Russian. How’s that for a final solution? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By Zhukov: It's almost a week old, so apologies if it's already been posted. The question is: "How many other countries should Russia denazify?"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc7G6AE3stgMaybe they can denazify the whole world by killing everyone who isn’t ethnically Russian. How’s that for a final solution? I seriously suspect that's the current line of thinking in the higher Russian echelons. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:17:19 PM EDT
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Russian BMP-3 apparently with alot of ammo hit by Ukrainian forces.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vcbijs/ukrainian_artillery_destroying_a_russian_bmp3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:21:29 PM EDT
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"Drone Wars: Ukraine And Russia's Aerial Battle In The Skies Over Donbass"  Drone Wars: Ukraine And Russia's Aerial Battle In The Skies Over Donbas |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:34:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: That's a cool looking tank. https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/media/editor_media/rm_defence/produktbilder/panther_kf51/Panther_1_breit.jpg Let’s hope any new tank comes with a highly effective, anti-Bayractar system. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:37:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _disconnector_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian BMP-3 apparently with alot of ammo hit by Ukrainian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vcbijs/ukrainian_artillery_destroying_a_russian_bmp3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:47:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Exactly, I would rather have one weapon that can hit exactly where I want than 500 that only have a small chance of hitting where I want. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Et2ss: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thermal image of Russian S-8 unguided rocket lofting. You can see the round all the way to the impact point. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vc2m1e/video_of_russian_airforce_firing_toward_ukrainian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 But did it actually hit anything? Great question, no one actually knows lol. I would imagine if your that desperate to hit a target and can't do it because you have no air superiority, or guided weapons, that you'd have dozens of such aircraft fly together and loft hundreds of these to create the effect of an MLRS strike. Two aircraft firing these doesn't seem like it would do much, and the dispersion seems large. Exactly, I would rather have one weapon that can hit exactly where I want than 500 that only have a small chance of hitting where I want. I don't think those rockets have enough blast radius to be effective artillery. Sure it can be of some use, but I am assuming it is not all the effective at destroying things. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: Let’s hope any new tank comes with a highly effective, anti-Bayractar system. Anyone who buys that tank is going to use it under a NATO Air Force. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:47:57 PM EDT
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 The Mystery Deepens behind This SuperYacht Trapped in London! |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:48:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: That's a bunch of 30mm cooking off plus maybe mortar charges. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian BMP-3 apparently with alot of ammo hit by Ukrainian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vcbijs/ukrainian_artillery_destroying_a_russian_bmp3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb BMP-3? 100mm. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:50:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian BMP-3 apparently with alot of ammo hit by Ukrainian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vcbijs/ukrainian_artillery_destroying_a_russian_bmp3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb [UA Farmer] *shakes fist at sky* I JUST STOLE THAT!!! [/UA Farmer] |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:51:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: BMP-3? 100mm. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian BMP-3 apparently with alot of ammo hit by Ukrainian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vcbijs/ukrainian_artillery_destroying_a_russian_bmp3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb BMP-3? 100mm. In true Arfcom fashion, it has both. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:53:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNews channel. I absolutely hate the fact that our media is no longer trustworthy. I no longer trust any news. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: I seriously suspect that's the current line of thinking in the higher Russian echelons. That IS the direction the loudmouths are going on russian state media. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:01:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dracster]
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"Ukrainian military medics treat not only people"
 Attached File Attached FileKitty was found and treated and is recovering at a vets office  Attached File Attached FilePatrol leader Muffins  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:06:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: I live part time in Budapest and part of the year in Oregon. I work for Fg part time and teach at the private and public schools. 
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:12:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: BMP-3? 100mm. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian BMP-3 apparently with alot of ammo hit by Ukrainian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vcbijs/ukrainian_artillery_destroying_a_russian_bmp3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb BMP-3? 100mm. Plus it usually has a few atgms, this does explain why some BMP's look like opened sardine cans. 
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:18:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Erno86: "Drone Wars: Ukraine And Russia's Aerial Battle In The Skies Over Donbass" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXwMJpPtxtMCould not help but notice that guy had an SUV full of EVO 2 Enterprise drones that can potentially drop grenades, or have thermal imagers. 
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:19:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: [UA Farmer] *shakes fist at sky* I JUST STOLE THAT!!! [/UA Farmer] Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian BMP-3 apparently with alot of ammo hit by Ukrainian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vcbijs/ukrainian_artillery_destroying_a_russian_bmp3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb [UA Farmer] *shakes fist at sky* I JUST STOLE THAT!!! [/UA Farmer] lol, I noticed the tractor and thought the same. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Timeflies: Surprise, another holier than thou post. This thread is MAYBE 10% conflict info. The remaining 90% is perpetual anti-American shit talking. 
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:19:03 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for June 14th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-14 |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:28:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Anyone who buys that tank is going to use it under a NATO Air Force. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Dominion21: Let's hope any new tank comes with a highly effective, anti-Bayractar system. Anyone who buys that tank is going to use it under a NATO Air Force. At the rate Germany is going, it might not necessarily be a friendly NATO Air Force. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:30:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: I don't think those rockets have enough blast radius to be effective artillery. Sure it can be of some use, but I am assuming it is not all the effective at destroying things. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Et2ss: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thermal image of Russian S-8 unguided rocket lofting. You can see the round all the way to the impact point. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vc2m1e/video_of_russian_airforce_firing_toward_ukrainian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 But did it actually hit anything? Great question, no one actually knows lol. I would imagine if your that desperate to hit a target and can't do it because you have no air superiority, or guided weapons, that you'd have dozens of such aircraft fly together and loft hundreds of these to create the effect of an MLRS strike. Two aircraft firing these doesn't seem like it would do much, and the dispersion seems large. Exactly, I would rather have one weapon that can hit exactly where I want than 500 that only have a small chance of hitting where I want. I don't think those rockets have enough blast radius to be effective artillery. Sure it can be of some use, but I am assuming it is not all the effective at destroying things. Those types of rockets have very low HE content. At the end of an arc like that, Id imagine they're moving very slowly and you have time to get under cover. I doubt they are doing too much damage like that. It would be useful against artillery or exposed stuff but that kind of attack looks like flown by people who care more about survival and checking the block vs effectiveness. It speaks to the effectiveness of Ukrainian AAA. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:32:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: As much as I wish we could get guided weapons into UA's hands, I can understand why we may be reluctant to do so. UA is still green on the battlefield as others have pointed out in how equipment was being deployed. That endangers combat valuable equipment and puts it in a position to be destroyed by the enemy and likewise exposing our technology to the enemy. If it were our troops on the battlefield, it would be an orc wasteland. You might train a crew in two weeks to operate the weapon but you're not going to train them where to hide, where to move, how to protect assets in that period of time. They are doing surprisingly well against the many odds. I hope we can give them every advantage. Just in case you forgot, they have been fighting the russians since obammy was in office. We have been training them during this time as well. It's not like they just started this with the current invasion. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:34:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wreckshooter: That is what Putin counted on, statements like yours. But that wasn't the reality as Russia inserted their junk into a buzzsaw. Russia is getting significantly degraded in a campaign they thought would last a week. We do not know who is going to 'win' this, but we already know Russia has lost this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wreckshooter: Originally Posted By AgeOne: Our government is the weak, corrupt, distortion of reality we claim all others are. This is the weakness putin saw in the west. That is what Putin counted on, statements like yours. But that wasn't the reality as Russia inserted their junk into a buzzsaw. Russia is getting significantly degraded in a campaign they thought would last a week. We do not know who is going to 'win' this, but we already know Russia has lost this. yeah, if anything this war is going to speed up a second Russian government collapse. They can't sustain the loss of equipment. They no longer have access to the microchips that they need to build their high tech weapons. Russia has never been successful making their own microchip industry, and that's not going to change. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:34:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomansland: The human element of training and improvement is probably as or more important than the hardware at this point. I don't know if they are able to rotate people out to western Ukraine, Poland, etc to train on these finer skills/coordination or if you could send experts forward to try to mentor them in the field (that would have to be extremely difficult). I'm sure the west is trying to push what they can in weapons and logistics but I doubt that alone will be the key to achieving tactical superiority. I would think that Russia's institutional barriers will allow Ukraine to improve faster if applied in an intentional manner. They have been training in Ukraine, Poland, and Germany. Possibly other places. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:55:38 PM EDT
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 Day 111: War in Ukraine |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:59:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: But can you get really good Tokaji Aszu? I still have a few bottles. I think the youngest is 1990. I've been to many wine tasting trips to Tokaj. We would bring it home in big 10L jugs. I still prefer Eger though. (I like the castle) |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:06:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Just in case you forgot, they have been fighting the russians since obammy was in office. We have been training them during this time as well. It's not like they just started this with the current invasion. Obama was training them with blankets and MRE's. They only started getting weapons under Trump. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:06:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:09:02 PM EDT
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Did I miss the daily tally of destruction
in on 2100 |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:17:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Did some UA tank gunner (human) actually get credited with 53 kills? I guess it's possible and hopefully will rival some of the 100+ German Aces from WWII. UA will have to come up with a cool tank destroyer badge as an award. 
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:18:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Obama was training them with blankets and MRE's. They only started getting weapons under Trump. They have been getting western training even when count chocula was refusing to send weapons. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:23:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wreckshooter: That is what Putin counted on, statements like yours. But that wasn’t the reality as Russia inserted their junk into a buzzsaw. Russia is getting significantly degraded in a campaign they thought would last a week. We do not know who is going to ‘win’ this, but we already know Russia has lost this. Statements like mine? I want to see our money used as efficiently as possible to defeat Russian ambitions hopefully for another generation at least. but our government isn't exactly know for spending our money wisely and honestly. That's not behavior to protect. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:26:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/1BC1F80C-D876-4B33-9366-024C3E56C527-2418145.jpg Russian reconnaissance UAV "Orlan-10" was shot down by the 58th motorized rifle brigade - information is also available on some of the components used.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/1BC1F80C-D876-4B33-9366-024C3E56C527-2418145.jpg Ukraine’s partisans are hitting Russian soldiers behind their own lines In Russian-occupied cities like Melitopol, covert resistance continues The russians took the strategic rail-hub city of Melitopol on the third day of the war, their route apparently greased by Ukrainian turncoats. Controlling the city, a crucial segment of Vladimir Putin’s land bridge to Crimea, has proven somewhat trickier. Every few days brings a surprising report: an armoured train destroyed and a grenade attack on a command post (May 18th); railway tracks and a radar station blown up (May 22nd); a pro-Ukrainian rally (May 29th); and a collaborator’s house hit by an explosion (May 30th). Ukraine claims its partisans have killed more than 100 Russian soldiers behind enemy lines in Melitopol. “Our people are doing everything to make sure the land burns under the feet of the occupiers,” says the town’s mayor, Ivan Fedorov, now safe in Ukrainian-controlled territory. Melitopol is the unofficial capital of Ukraine’s resistance. Since mid-March the war maps produced by the American-based Institute for the Study of War show it covered in stripes, meaning it is territory where partisans are active. But it is far from the only place that has seen such operations. In neighbouring Kherson, a Russian-controlled airbase has been blown up nearly two dozen times. In Enerhodar, Andrii Shevchyk, the collaborationist mayor, was the target of an unsuccessful assassination attempt. In Izyum, hungry Russian soldiers were purportedly given spiked pies by a seemingly friendly old lady, according to a telephone conversation between a Russian soldier and his girlfriend that was intercepted by Ukrainian intelligence; eight of them reportedly ended up dead. When Russians abandon tanks or petrol trucks, Ukrainian farmers tow them away. Reports of explosions at arms dumps trickle in from the occupied regions of Donetsk and Luhansk. Russian reconnaissance UAV "Orlan-10" was shot down by the 58th motorized rifle brigade - information is also available on some of the components used.
YES! This is what I was talking about when this thread was in single digits! Ukrayins'ka Povstans'ka Armiya: The Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Part 1: The History (1942−1949)The History and Small Arms of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:41:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Illegible_Signature: I haven't figured out the irregularity and sometimes the point of the United Kingdom's MOD briefing. No map this time. My suspicion is Russia's production of advanced electronics will be closer to non-existent than troubled, but the MOD seems to have a penchant for understatement. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106650/6-14c-2418061.jpg A 20% increase in Russia’s military budget is only keeping up with inflation, it’s not going to result in more production. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 8:05:51 PM EDT
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Tomorrow will be an important day for Ukraine. Lots of defense ministers will be meeting on the side at NATO to discuss new requests for military aid. I hope that quite a few NATO countries besides the US and UK will remain committed to providing Ukraine with the tools it needs to defeat the orc horde from the east. I'm sure Poland will. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania will too. The same is true for the Czech Republic, Slovakia and probably Romania. But what will the two European nations that are in the best position to help (Germany and France) do? They seem to already be getting wobbly. At least France has delivered advanced weaponry. Hopefully they will continue to do so. And maybe Germany will finally ship some weaponry to Ukraine before Christmas. It is time to bear down and see this thing through. We've come this far, we can't turn back now. NATO member nations need to gift Ukraine enough big guns so that there is more artillery falling from the sky than bird shit. Fuck this diplomacy bullshit and suggestions that Ukraine should cede some land to Russia. They should cede them nothing! I actually hope they are able to retake what they've lost since February 24th. And it wouldn't bother me if they retook everything that belonged to them prior to 2014. Fuck Russia. Deliver to those bastards the death punch.
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Posted: 6/14/2022 8:30:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: A 20% increase in Russia’s military budget is only keeping up with inflation, it’s not going to result in more production. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fallen: Originally Posted By Illegible_Signature: I haven't figured out the irregularity and sometimes the point of the United Kingdom's MOD briefing. No map this time. My suspicion is Russia's production of advanced electronics will be closer to non-existent than troubled, but the MOD seems to have a penchant for understatement. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106650/6-14c-2418061.jpg A 20% increase in Russia’s military budget is only keeping up with inflation, it’s not going to result in more production. Yeah. Probably a reduction once you figure in the grift. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 9:03:14 PM EDT
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