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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:44:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:45:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jack67]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Agreed. One of my professors was involved in the Inertial Navigation Systems involved in the Minuteman missiles. Seeing how things have progressed is interesting. About an hour ago I was looking at this brief article on the system in the Peacemaker - bigger brother of the Minuteman. From a 19,000 piece mechanical assembly the size of a small table, down to a couple of ICs and a 1/2 dozen sensors less than a cubic inch each. Article says the Peacemaker CEP was 40m. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30254/this-isnt-a-sci-fi-prop-its-a-doomsday-navigator-for-americas-biggest-cold-war-icbm  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:55:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYyjmXPXwAA4Rzj?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYyjmXNWIAAMLFk?format=jpg&name=small Any ideas what it is? |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:01:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Agreed. One of my professors was involved in the Inertial Navigation Systems involved in the Minuteman missiles. Seeing how things have progressed is interesting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I love this stuff so thanks for posting it.  Agreed. One of my professors was involved in the Inertial Navigation Systems involved in the Minuteman missiles. Seeing how things have progressed is interesting. I helped work on some ancient submarine SINS from the 60s that we were still using in 1990 on the ship in my profile pic. It was pretty damn interesting how it worked. It didn't like going over sea mountains. Hopefully the fancy new stuff is better at dealing with Schuler oscillations. We almost always had one of our IMUs out for repair. Don't recall us ever having both up and working at the same time. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:01:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Any ideas what it is? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYyjmXPXwAA4Rzj?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYyjmXNWIAAMLFk?format=jpg&name=small Any ideas what it is? Past few nights it was fuel depots getting hit instead of explodey ammo depots. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:03:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: North Macedonia is reportedly sending some or all of their 31 T-72A to Ukraine. Link https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/bsp_31877-jdw-18460_tmb-th1280w_jpg-2469689.JPG  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqeNyfOKSZYThat's enough to fully equip another Ukrainian tank battalion. Every piece of military hardware donated makes a difference. I just wish we could get them some late model western tanks in decent numbers. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:14:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jack67]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Any ideas what it is? The whole center of that town is an enormous Soviet-scale railroad switching yard, a lot of it abandoned I think. I believe you can see some of the signal and transmission gear in the foreground (towers and blue lights). They could have hit a train, or some of the huge space there could have been an ammo or fuel dump right on the railway line. This was also the place the Putin granted safe passage and then slaughtered a lot of Ukrainian soldiers in 2014. So some sweet payback is, I'm sure, in Ukrainian hearts right now. ETA: Here's a railway map of Ukraine. You will note the density in the east for the heavy industry of the Donbas region. Ilovaisk station is in the area of the blue circle. It controls the only direct route from Rostov-on-Don in Russia into Donbas, so that is what they are interdicting.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:20:29 PM EST
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Doesn't sound like Lavrov was feeling particularly rational. lol
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:28:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: The whole center of that town is an enormous Soviet-scale railroad switching yard, a lot of it abandoned I think. I believe you can see some of the signal and transmission gear in the foreground (towers and blue lights). They could have hit a train, or some of the huge space there could have been an ammo or fuel dump right on the railway line. This was also the place the Putin granted safe passage and then slaughtered a lot of Ukrainian soldiers in 2014. So some sweet payback is, I'm sure, in Ukrainian hearts right now. ETA: Here's a railway map of Ukraine. You will note the density in the east for the heavy industry of the Donbas region. Ilovaisk station is in the area of the blue circle. It controls the only direct route from Rostov-on-Don in Russia into Donbas, so that is what they are interdicting. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/ukraine-rail-map_jpg-2469758.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By stone-age: Any ideas what it is? The whole center of that town is an enormous Soviet-scale railroad switching yard, a lot of it abandoned I think. I believe you can see some of the signal and transmission gear in the foreground (towers and blue lights). They could have hit a train, or some of the huge space there could have been an ammo or fuel dump right on the railway line. This was also the place the Putin granted safe passage and then slaughtered a lot of Ukrainian soldiers in 2014. So some sweet payback is, I'm sure, in Ukrainian hearts right now. ETA: Here's a railway map of Ukraine. You will note the density in the east for the heavy industry of the Donbas region. Ilovaisk station is in the area of the blue circle. It controls the only direct route from Rostov-on-Don in Russia into Donbas, so that is what they are interdicting. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/ukraine-rail-map_jpg-2469758.JPG I love this place.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:29:12 PM EST
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:36:41 PM EST
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Posted: 7/29/2022 4:51:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:01:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY3CgCTWYAAR1RP?format=jpg&name=900x900  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:01:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: I had heard about this story, but wasn't aware that the mother died in hospital.  The Russians are going to be unpleasantly surprised if even a fraction of the Ukrainian people ever have an opportunity to take their vengeance. With so many stories like this, it's hard for me to imagine that there is room left in their hearts for anything except rage anymore. Pure speculation on my part, but I bet there is an entire generation of Ukrainian engineers, scientists, and business people who will make it their mission in life for Ukraine to become a nuclear armed state again, and I think there will be a few countries willing to help them. As rebuilding the country progresses, don't be surprised if we start to see space launch services, aerospace design and manufacture, and the nuclear industry all get an unusual amount of resources and attention. It won't be by accident. 100% correct and you can take that to the bank. Poland and Ukraine will form a block and go nuclear with much more than a token force. Though I don’t buy into Russian disinfo designed to split NATO, it’s also clear that Poland and Ukraine cannot entrust their national survival to European goodwill. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:17:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Using commercial satellite imagery to locate Russian forces near the Daryevska pontoon crossing on the Ingulets.
Red marks are Russian vehicles. 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:18:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By theskuh: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/133188/F5A083C8-62B4-420F-8611-6A22DD12190A_jpe-2469791.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By theskuh: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY3CgCTWYAAR1RP?format=jpg&name=900x900 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/133188/F5A083C8-62B4-420F-8611-6A22DD12190A_jpe-2469791.JPG *snort* lol |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:21:35 PM EST
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In other news, top Russian Rabbi, in exile, tells all Jews to leave Russia
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/jews-russia-ukraine-invasion/2022/07/28/id/1080767/ Moscow's former chief rabbi now living in exile in Israel warned Thursday of "dark clouds on the horizon" for Russian Jews, as ties between the countries deteriorate over the Ukraine war. "If Russia wants to stop the brain drain of its best scientists and creative class, the best way to do this is not by closing the Jewish Agency, but by stopping this war," Goldschmidt said. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:22:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: One of two guns going to UA soon. More pics to follow. Not my paint job but a coproject, the Ukrainian diaspora is large and responsible for 60% of the gear getting over there. I'll do a spec sheet once they are done. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/202ED4BE-8AD2-4451-9CE1-F3E16412E972_jpe-2469625.JPG 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:29:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: The Russian Embassy in Britain reveals plans to hang Azov Battalion fighters: "Azov militants deserve execution, but death not by firing squad but by hanging, because they're not real soldiers. They deserve a humiliating death" If the Azov Regiment weren't already martyrs after Azovstal, they will be if the Russians go through with this. Behavior like this isn't going to cause the Ukrainians to stop fighting. In fact, I'd bet a good amount of money that it will have the opposite effect. It's just going to ensure that Ukrainian soldiers fight harder, don't surrender, and likely fuck up Russian prisoners in response. I wouldn't want to be a Russian soldier captured by Ukrainian partisans in the coming months, I'll tell you that. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:35:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: The Russian Embassy in Britain reveals plans to hang Azov Battalion fighters: "Azov militants deserve execution, but death not by firing squad but by hanging, because they’re not real soldiers. They deserve a humiliating death" If the Azov Regiment weren't already martyrs after Azovstal, they will be if the Russians go through with this. Behavior like this isn't going to cause the Ukrainians to stop fighting. In fact, I'd bet a good amount of money that it will have the opposite effect. It's just going to ensure that Ukrainian soldiers fight harder, don't surrender, and likely fuck up Russian prisoners in response. I wouldn't want to be a Russian soldier captured by Ukrainian partisans in the coming months, I'll tell you that. People argue about whether Putin has gone insane. The bigger question is whether Russian government, society, and culture has gone insane. There’s a lot of material on Nazi Germany relating how educated, professional, and responsible individuals acted in a irresponsible and monstrous way. No sane person can think that executing several hundred to several thousand captives is a justifiable or even a beneficial (to Russia) act. Perhaps in the twisted calculation of the Russian government, playing “the cornered nuclear superpower act” is their only option right now, but it’s the worst play they can make because it’s convincing the relevant powers that Russia has to be smashed at any cost. The west will be damaged but Russia will be annihilated. Russians who love God and their country need to act before it’s too late. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:39:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
18 filtration camps in Ukraine where people are being executed.  |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:47:34 PM EST
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Azov patches anywhere?
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:48:31 PM EST
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Looks like some stuff about the attack on the Ukrainian POW facilities has been intercepted.
Apparently carried out by Wagner group. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 5:50:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: People argue about whether Putin has gone insane. The bigger question is whether Russian government, society, and culture has gone insane. There’s a lot of material on Nazi Germany relating how educated, professional, and responsible individuals acted in a irresponsible and monstrous way. No sane person can think that executing several hundred to several thousand captives is a justifiable or even a beneficial (to Russia) act. Perhaps in the twisted calculation of the Russian government, playing “the cornered nuclear superpower act” is their only option right now, but it’s the worst play they can make because it’s convincing the relevant powers that Russia has to be smashed at any cost. The west will be damaged but Russia will be annihilated. Russians who love God and their country need to act before it’s too late. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: The Russian Embassy in Britain reveals plans to hang Azov Battalion fighters: "Azov militants deserve execution, but death not by firing squad but by hanging, because they’re not real soldiers. They deserve a humiliating death" If the Azov Regiment weren't already martyrs after Azovstal, they will be if the Russians go through with this. Behavior like this isn't going to cause the Ukrainians to stop fighting. In fact, I'd bet a good amount of money that it will have the opposite effect. It's just going to ensure that Ukrainian soldiers fight harder, don't surrender, and likely fuck up Russian prisoners in response. I wouldn't want to be a Russian soldier captured by Ukrainian partisans in the coming months, I'll tell you that. People argue about whether Putin has gone insane. The bigger question is whether Russian government, society, and culture has gone insane. There’s a lot of material on Nazi Germany relating how educated, professional, and responsible individuals acted in a irresponsible and monstrous way. No sane person can think that executing several hundred to several thousand captives is a justifiable or even a beneficial (to Russia) act. Perhaps in the twisted calculation of the Russian government, playing “the cornered nuclear superpower act” is their only option right now, but it’s the worst play they can make because it’s convincing the relevant powers that Russia has to be smashed at any cost. The west will be damaged but Russia will be annihilated. Russians who love God and their country need to act before it’s too late. I would argue that Russia never was "sane," at least in a Western European sense of the word. The Russians never quite experienced the enlightenment reforms in the same way Western Europe did. There were some small reforms under Alexander II, but they were not to a very large extent. They basically went from Tsarist rule, to horrific Bolshevik oppression, to kleptocratic rule without anything in between. Simply put, I don't think that most Americans and Western Europeans can understand Russian culture and society. Many of them don't think like we do. Frankly, I notice some similarities between Russian culture and Islamic cultures in the MENA, in terms of fatalism, acceptance of terrible governance, and lack of respect for human life. Certainly, I'm far from an SME on this subject, and my knowledge comes from a bit of reading on my own time and some courses I took in college. There's probably people posting in this thread who are more knowledgeable about Russian culture than I am, so they can feel free to correct me if I'm wildly off base. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:02:55 PM EST
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:03:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Azov patches anywhere? I have a few left. Don't know when I'll get more. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:22:26 PM EST
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Drone dropping two grenades on a Russian tank crew.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/wbi09q/russian_tank_crewmen_being_hit_by_a_drone_dropped/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:23:51 PM EST
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Lively, from 5 hrs ago FIRMS data.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:24:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Lively, from 5 hrs ago FIRMS data. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY2WX0wXwAIBKWO?format=jpg&name=900x900 Gee. I wonder if Ukraine is about to make a move in the south? 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:29:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Gee. I wonder if Ukraine is about to make a move in the south? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Lively, from 5 hrs ago FIRMS data. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY2WX0wXwAIBKWO?format=jpg&name=900x900 Gee. I wonder if Ukraine is about to make a move in the south? |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:35:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: I was thinking just Kherson but there's a lot more activity beyond it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Lively, from 5 hrs ago FIRMS data. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY2WX0wXwAIBKWO?format=jpg&name=900x900 Gee. I wonder if Ukraine is about to make a move in the south? I think that is to keep the supplies from getting across the river into the Khearson area. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:40:26 PM EST
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This may be crazy talk, but at this point the Russians seem to have gone off the deep end:
Is it possible that the Russians have taken extreme measures vs. Ukrainian POWs to try and motivate their own soldiers to not surrender and fight harder? Knowing what may await them if they give up or are captured? I simply can't think of any explanation as to their recent actions. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 6:49:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Billy_Ringo: This may be crazy talk, but at this point the Russians seem to have gone off the deep end: Is it possible that the Russians have taken extreme measures vs. Ukrainian POWs to try and motivate their own soldiers to not surrender and fight harder? Knowing what may await them if they give up or are captured? I simply can't think of any explanation as to their recent actions. Russians are just non human evil orc pieces of shit. There behavior is from century's of acting like scum pigs. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:01:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: Beltfed308]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Billy_Ringo: This may be crazy talk, but at this point the Russians seem to have gone off the deep end: Is it possible that the Russians have taken extreme measures vs. Ukrainian POWs to try and motivate their own soldiers to not surrender and fight harder? Knowing what may await them if they give up or are captured? I simply can't think of any explanation as to their recent actions. Depending on your age many of us have seen Orc actions just like this since the early 70's. I remember visiting East Germany when I was 7 with my mother, brother and sister. Once we passed checkpoint Charlie where they rolled mirrors under the tour bus and checked everyone's papers, we were escorted to a museum in the middle of a plaza surrounded by bombed out WW2 buildings. During the tour of the museum by the most manliest of russian/east german women, bro and I thought it was boring as all the pictures were the classic russian farmer/wife holding a flag looking off to nowhere. So we decided to explore. Every door we opened had a brick wall. It was a façade. The escort noticed we were missing and had a total shit fit. Cancelled the tour and they escorted us back to the border for the same routine leaving. I vividly remember the soldier standing at the front of the bus with a ppsh. Another with a ppsh checked papers seat by seat. Everyone on the bus was pissed as hell at bro and me until we told them what we saw. After we crossed. Bro and I never had to ask for candy ever again. For the next 7 days we were treated as close to hero's as I ever would be. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:12:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Billy_Ringo: This may be crazy talk, but at this point the Russians seem to have gone off the deep end: Is it possible that the Russians have taken extreme measures vs. Ukrainian POWs to try and motivate their own soldiers to not surrender and fight harder? Knowing what may await them if they give up or are captured? I simply can't think of any explanation as to their recent actions. They went off the deep end a long time ago. As easily as they kill civilians, this doesn't surprise me at all. Ukrainians are also learning it is better to die fighting than surrender to this scum. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:14:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: I was thinking just Kherson but there's a lot more activity beyond it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Lively, from 5 hrs ago FIRMS data. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY2WX0wXwAIBKWO?format=jpg&name=900x900 Gee. I wonder if Ukraine is about to make a move in the south? Regardless of where the main thrust is, I think it would make sense to attack all along the lines to keep pressure everywhere so that Russia has to choose between reinforcing the South or losing territory elsewhere. Just keep degrading them. Idk ETA to add a few tweets I remember seeing
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:17:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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 https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1553093117712162828 These Russian fuckers are rabid dogs. I'm starting to think we should just quickly put them down. It might be best for all involved. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:17:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beltfed308: Depending on your age many of us have seen Orc actions just like this since the early 70's. I remember visiting East Germany when I was 7 with my mother, brother and sister. Once we passed checkpoint Charlie where they rolled mirrors under the tour bus and checked everyone's papers, we were escorted to a museum in the middle of a plaza surrounded by bombed out WW2 buildings. During the tour of the museum by the most manliest of russian/east german women, bro and I thought it was boring as all the pictures were the classic russian farmer/wife holding a flag looking off to nowhere. So we decided to explore. Every door we opened had a brick wall. It was a façade. The escort noticed we were missing and had a total shit fit. Cancelled the tour and they escorted us back to the border for the same routine leaving. I vividly remember the soldier standing at the front of the bus with a ppsh. Another with a ppsh checked papers seat by seat. Everyone on the bus was pissed as hell at bro and me until we told them what we saw. After we crossed. Bro and I never had to ask for candy ever again. For the next 7 days we were treated as close to hero's as I ever would be. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beltfed308: Originally Posted By Billy_Ringo: This may be crazy talk, but at this point the Russians seem to have gone off the deep end: Is it possible that the Russians have taken extreme measures vs. Ukrainian POWs to try and motivate their own soldiers to not surrender and fight harder? Knowing what may await them if they give up or are captured? I simply can't think of any explanation as to their recent actions. Depending on your age many of us have seen Orc actions just like this since the early 70's. I remember visiting East Germany when I was 7 with my mother, brother and sister. Once we passed checkpoint Charlie where they rolled mirrors under the tour bus and checked everyone's papers, we were escorted to a museum in the middle of a plaza surrounded by bombed out WW2 buildings. During the tour of the museum by the most manliest of russian/east german women, bro and I thought it was boring as all the pictures were the classic russian farmer/wife holding a flag looking off to nowhere. So we decided to explore. Every door we opened had a brick wall. It was a façade. The escort noticed we were missing and had a total shit fit. Cancelled the tour and they escorted us back to the border for the same routine leaving. I vividly remember the soldier standing at the front of the bus with a ppsh. Another with a ppsh checked papers seat by seat. Everyone on the bus was pissed as hell at bro and me until we told them what we saw. After we crossed. Bro and I never had to ask for candy ever again. For the next 7 days we were treated as close to hero's as I ever would be. Some of us also had great uncles, great aunts, and grandparents raped or murdered by Russians. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:24:42 PM EST
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South end of the railroad bridge to Khearson from satellite.
 The bridge is out.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:24:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Lively, from 5 hrs ago FIRMS data. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY2WX0wXwAIBKWO?format=jpg&name=900x900 It’s my birthday today. Bets birthday present ever |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:25:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: I was thinking just Kherson but there's a lot more activity beyond it They need to start hitting troops and vehicles too. Not just logistics. Spread the fear and terror around |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:30:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: It’s my birthday today. Bets birthday present ever Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Lively, from 5 hrs ago FIRMS data. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY2WX0wXwAIBKWO?format=jpg&name=900x900 It’s my birthday today. Bets birthday present ever Happy Birthday 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:34:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: It's my birthday today. Bets birthday present ever Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Lively, from 5 hrs ago FIRMS data. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY2WX0wXwAIBKWO?format=jpg&name=900x900 It's my birthday today. Bets birthday present ever Make a wish and blow out these candles.
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:35:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Some of us also had great uncles, great aunts, and grandparents raped or murdered by Russians. As a child, pulling up to enter E Germany the mood was incredibly somber. Nobody spoke, just hushed whispers. The few people we did see on the other side, less than 6, never smiled or just looked down or away. We knew/felt these were the bad guys/ monsters. I cannot imagine what terror people must have felt during and after the war facing them. Just evil. But at 7, with no clue what was happening, this is the only part of the trip that sticks in my memory. Not Briton, France, Italy, Germany, Holland, Belgium or Switzerland. Growing up and knowing what I know now? These are same monsters I remember on the bus. The one country where they never learn from history. Orc's is a perfect name. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:38:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Using commercial satellite imagery to locate Russian forces near the Daryevska pontoon crossing on the Ingulets.
Red marks are Russian vehicles. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY3OC1OXEAMdQUV?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY3OftQXkAcZD5Z?format=jpg&name=small
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY3SDMpXoAA8R_j?format=jpg&name=900x900 So if they can hit the bridge they can probably hit some other stuff a few hundred yards away. *wink* *wink* |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:40:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Billy_Ringo: This may be crazy talk, but at this point the Russians seem to have gone off the deep end: Is it possible that the Russians have taken extreme measures vs. Ukrainian POWs to try and motivate their own soldiers to not surrender and fight harder? Knowing what may await them if they give up or are captured? I simply can't think of any explanation as to their recent actions. Russians in the military and government are straight up scumbags... |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:42:29 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistorySo if they can hit the bridge they can probably hit some other stuff a few hundred yards away. *wink* *wink* 
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:43:59 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: They need to start hitting troops and vehicles too. Not just logistics. Spread the fear and terror around They don't have enough M142/M270 systems to be able to adequately service every type of target right now. So they are wisely making the destruction of Russia's logistics the primary task. The Russians can't fight if they have no ammunition, no fuel and nothing to eat. But now that Ukraine has HIMARS/MLRS to hit these more strategic targets, it frees up their tube artillery and less accurate Soviet rocket artillery systems to go after troop concentrations nearer the front. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:49:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jack67]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: I would argue that Russia never was "sane," at least in a Western European sense of the word. The Russians never quite experienced the enlightenment reforms in the same way Western Europe did. There were some small reforms .... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: I would argue that Russia never was "sane," at least in a Western European sense of the word. The Russians never quite experienced the enlightenment reforms in the same way Western Europe did. There were some small reforms .... You are completely correct from what I have understood and been taught, and from conversations with Russian specialists and Russians, too. I think one of the most succinct explanations of the Russian government's thought process is to read George Kennan's famous "Long Telegram" from early 1946, which he wired from the Moscow embassy back to Foggy Bottom in response to a question about weird Soviet actions. It spread like wildfire through Washington at the time, and was expanded and polished and published as the also-famous "X Article" in Foreign Affairs later in 1947. ("X" since it was anonymously published, he being a serving senior State Dept. officer at the time). It is as relevant today as then, and would equally have applied 100 years earlier than 1945. It is the germ that became the Cold War containment policy, though that was not entirely what he wanted to see personally. Just the first sections I and II cover the background and are all that need to be read, not more than 10 or so minutes. I've read this again about every five years for the last 20 years and frankly, everything Russia does makes perfect sense to me within Kennan's framework. It is available here in the NSA digital archives: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/coldwar/documents/episode-1/kennan.htm Some quotes (Just substitute 'Russia' for 'Soviet' and 'West' for 'Capitalist': Everything must be done to advance relative strength of USSR as factor in international society. Conversely, no opportunity most be missed to reduce strength and influence, collectively as well as individually, of capitalist powers. "Democratic-progressive" elements abroad are to be utilized to maximum to bring pressure to bear on capitalist governments along lines agreeable to Soviet interests. (Russian Gov't. policy ) does not represent natural outlook of Russian people. Latter are, by and large, friendly to outside world, eager for experience of it, eager to measure against it talents they are conscious of possessing, eager above all to live in peace and enjoy fruits of their own labor. Party line only represents thesis which official propaganda machine puts forward with great skill and persistence to a public all these theses, however baseless and disproven, are being boldly put forward again today. What does this indicate? It indicates that Soviet party line is not based on any objective analysis of situation beyond Russia's borders; At bottom of Kremlin's neurotic view of world affairs is traditional and instinctive Russian sense of insecurity. Originally, this was insecurity of a peaceful agricultural people trying to live on vast exposed plain in neighborhood of fierce nomadic peoples. To this was added, as Russia came into contact with economically advanced West, fear of more competent, more powerful, more highly organized societies in that area. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 7:55:14 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: They need to start hitting troops and vehicles too. Not just logistics. Spread the fear and terror around May St HIMARS bless your day.... |
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