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Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now.
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Originally Posted By mancow: They aren't fuckups. They are consciously working against or own interests. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By GlockZen: If we cut off Russia from SWIFT we should just launch a first strike. Even during the Cold war, during the Cuban Missile crisis, war in Angola, Grenada, Vietnam, Afghanista, Georgia, Iraq on and on neither the Soviets/Russians or US went after common rails, like energy or financial. We don't like it but this is how the big boys, fight and yes it means little people get ground up in the gears of geopolitics, and countries like Ukraine and Cuba get shuffled around like little chess pieces. I think the last thing we need to do is escalate this any further, we should be concerned with reinforcing NATO countries, and just pouring as much hardware forward to make it clear to Putin he may get Ukraine but this is it. Cutting him off from SWIFT wont do shit except force him to retaliate with direct attacks on our banking and financials, or pull oil of the market, just go for broke. Again, if Biden wasn't a fuck up, what he should be doing is offering waiving every fee/tax or obstacle to oil drillers, and pipelines in the US, he should negotiating with the Saudis to flood the oil market. Fuck he should put Jared Kushner on a plane with 1 billion dollars, and a fleet of Plaid Teslas, to get MBS to pump oil. MBS doesnt want a nuclear war either. Biden/Blinken are major fuck up. Driving the price of oil down to $50 or less, would take billions out Putin's pocket and would fix inflation. Our Oil producers can produce oil at $35/ and we could subsidize them if we have to get it lower. This will take cash right out Russia. You can see that right now the US is a deer in the headlights. They aren't fuckups. They are consciously working against or own interests. This. Obama and Biden have intentionally hamstrung domestic energy production as a policy, particularly targeting coal and oil. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG View Quote Lots of Ukrainian immigrants live in Cincinnati and the general Ohio area. |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. View Quote Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Maybe? Just saw this, not sure if its the same one. It did sound like a cruise missile. Ukraine's deputy defense ministry said that one missile was shot out of the sky by their anti-missile defense systems. Another missile struck a residential building in the city, the government said. View Quote What are there anti missile defense systems? Surely they don't have a surplus of S300 batteries at this point. |
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Originally Posted By tstorms: Whatever makes you get the feels. Reality sucks View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tstorms: Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By tstorms: Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By tstorms: Unless there's a Raptor disguised as a MiG 29, the ghost is bullshit You give the Russians too much credit. Entirely plausible. No it's not Russia stronk, Ukraine weak. Da comrade? Whatever makes you get the feels. Reality sucks How are you so plugged in that you know the reality of the situation when everyone else is admittedly only speculating? |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG View Quote Dallas did that too. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord: Kyiv is a big city and we are looking at what, 2-4 cameras? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Why aren't we seeing it? Kyiv is a big city and we are looking at what, 2-4 cameras? |
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Originally Posted By dillydilly: Lots of Ukrainian immigrants live in Cincinnati and the general Ohio area. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG Lots of Ukrainian immigrants live in Cincinnati and the general Ohio area. *Putin looking at picture scratching chin* Blyat! That ones a new target for a nuke! *Putin looking at picture scratching chin* |
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Originally Posted By GlockZen: If we cut off Russia from SWIFT we should just launch a first strike. Even during the Cold war, during the Cuban Missile crisis, war in Angola, Grenada, Vietnam, Afghanista, Georgia, Iraq on and on neither the Soviets/Russians or US went after common rails, like energy or financial. View Quote But why All SWIFT is is a secure messaging system between financial institutions. It’s doesn’t actually move and money. It’s like a promissory note email message to speed things up, a bank to bank guarantee the money is on its way thru normal current bank to bank transfer method, if you will. That’s it. It’s not a balance holding account. SWIFT is not the only financial messaging system, there are a few others. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050515/how-swift-system-works.asp As powerful as SWIFT is, keep in mind that it is only a messaging system. SWIFT does not hold any funds or securities, nor does it manage client accounts Although there are other message services like Fedwire, Ripple, and Clearing House Interbank Payments System (CHIPS), SWIFT continues to retain its dominant position in the market. Its success is attributed to how it continually adds new message codes to transmit different financial transactions |
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Originally Posted By metalsaber: It's actually more likely it's all propaganda. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Since we don't need any confirmation or a shred of evidence let's make it a baker's dozen for shits and giggles. I saw video of at least 2 Russian choppers shot down that they claim are from A-A kills. |
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Originally Posted By CenterMass762: I was thinking the same thing and I wouldn't blame them a bit. Having a hero is a useful thing in times like this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Since we don't need any confirmation or a shred of evidence let's make it a baker's dozen for shits and giggles. I was thinking the same thing and I wouldn't blame them a bit. Having a hero is a useful thing in times like this. Reminds me of that movie about the WWII Russian sniper. |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. View Quote Well, then it's going to be easy to take care of this problem. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG View Quote I bet more people get shot tonight in Ohio than Ukraine |
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Originally Posted By jkitchen: Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. View Quote The only reason they can pull this operation off is because it’s next door and they committed most of their conventional forces to it. |
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Originally Posted By feetpiece: I bet more people get shot tonight in Ohio than Ukraine View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By feetpiece: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG I bet more people get shot tonight in Ohio than Ukraine I'll take that bet and raise you Chicago! |
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Originally Posted By M-1975: I'm hearing jets all over the feeds with my headphones plugged into a Scarlett 2i2 and running an EQ program. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By M-1975: Originally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Why aren't we seeing it? Kyiv is a big city and we are looking at what, 2-4 cameras? Same here. Not constant. But frequent. You can hear it without headphones but it sounds like loud road traffic. |
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Originally Posted By merick: what he is doing instead ; Biden administration freezes new oil and gas drilling leases I presume Nord Stream 1 is still pumping along, I can't find any mention of it one way or the other. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By merick: Originally Posted By GlockZen: Originally Posted By Drakich: Russia isn't even cut off from SWIFT. All of these NATO meetings are just bullshit posturing for internal PR purposes. If we cut off Russia from SWIFT we should just launch a first strike. Even during the Cold war, during the Cuban Missile crisis, war in Angola, Grenada, Vietnam, Afghanista, Georgia, Iraq on and on neither the Soviets/Russians or US went after common rails, like energy or financial. We don't like it but this is how the big boys, fight and yes it means little people get ground up in the gears of geopolitics, and countries like Ukraine and Cuba get shuffled around like little chess pieces. I think the last thing we need to do is escalate this any further, we should be concerned with reinforcing NATO countries, and just pouring as much hardware forward to make it clear to Putin he may get Ukraine but this is it. Cutting him off from SWIFT wont do shit except force him to retaliate with direct attacks on our banking and financials, or pull oil of the market, just go for broke. Again, if Biden wasn't a fuck up, what he should be doing is offering waiving every fee/tax or obstacle to oil drillers, and pipelines in the US, he should negotiating with the Saudis to flood the oil market. Fuck he should put Jared Kushner on a plane with 1 billion dollars, and a fleet of Plaid Teslas, to get MBS to pump oil. MBS doesnt want a nuclear war either. Biden/Blinken are major fuck up. Driving the price of oil down to $50 or less, would take billions out Putin's pocket and would fix inflation. Our Oil producers can produce oil at $35/ and we could subsidize them if we have to get it lower. This will take cash right out Russia. You can see that right now the US is a deer in the headlights. what he is doing instead ; Biden administration freezes new oil and gas drilling leases I presume Nord Stream 1 is still pumping along, I can't find any mention of it one way or the other. Gas and oil lease freezes Not surprised considering this whole shitshow is another oil/gas war that does nothing but hurt innocent people |
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Lets hope its true. View Quote Good. Fuck Russia. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: This is apparently the jet of the ace Ukraine pilot nicknamed "The Ghost of Kyiv" who downed SIX Russian aircraft during the first day of fighting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjbr6qhGPA https://preview.redd.it/o8op4t01mvj81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c122974fec24735f70c89eca6f66dc925377ac3b Video View Quote Is this true or some sort of trumped up inspirational hero type story? |
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Thanks to all who are contributing to this thread.
Could someone please link me to a real live stream of Kiev? The stream I'm watching has 4 screens. 2 of them show Kiev with the sun rising. 2 of them show Kiev still in the middle of the night. I mean yeah it's a big city but it ain't that fucking big! |
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Originally Posted By realwar: This is apparently the jet of the ace Ukraine pilot nicknamed "The Ghost of Kyiv" who downed SIX Russian aircraft during the first day of fighting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjbr6qhGPA https://preview.redd.it/o8op4t01mvj81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c122974fec24735f70c89eca6f66dc925377ac3b Video View Quote |
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:
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Originally Posted By JSteensen: To reiterate, cruise missiles don't pop flares immediately prior to hostile impact. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JSteensen: Originally Posted By realwar: I'm thinking it was a 3M-54 Kalibr cruise missile. Huge warhead (1,100lb HE) Can travel up to 1,500 miles. Those were not flares. Why do people keep thinking any of that is flares?? |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: What are there anti missile defense systems? Surely they don't have a surplus of S300 batteries at this point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By realwar: Maybe? Just saw this, not sure if its the same one. It did sound like a cruise missile. Ukraine's deputy defense ministry said that one missile was shot out of the sky by their anti-missile defense systems. Another missile struck a residential building in the city, the government said. What are there anti missile defense systems? Surely they don't have a surplus of S300 batteries at this point. Wiki says they have 419 total S300, BUK, SA-3, and KUB mobile SAMs also 100 TOR mobile short range launchers and I assume reloads for all of them. |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: I know. I wish there was a General Patten in charge of NATO. View Quote Was just thinking about this yesterday. Since you brought it up... PATTON Introduction Speech Intro ( English ) He has to have been rolling in his grave for the past seven decades. |
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Originally Posted By Radio_Free_ARFCOM: Thanks to all who are contributing to this thread. Could someone please link me to a real live stream of Kiev? The stream I'm watching has 4 screens. 2 of them show Kiev with the sun rising. 2 of them show Kiev still in the middle of the night. I mean yeah it's a big city but it ain't that fucking big! View Quote Whats that link? The one I'm on shows sumy and odessa the other 2 kiev. Kiev gonna be hopping tomorrow...gonna need that link |
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Now we see if the Russians attack at dawn like the indians like they did yesterday.
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Originally Posted By merick: what he is doing instead ; Biden administration freezes new oil and gas drilling leases I presume Nord Stream 1 is still pumping along, I can't find any mention of it one way or the other. View Quote nord stream 1 works just fine. nord stream 2 wasn’t slated to be final approval until august. I doubt this will send that date back. |
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Originally Posted By MrGoodkat: Is this true or some sort of trumped up inspirational hero type story? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MrGoodkat: Originally Posted By realwar: This is apparently the jet of the ace Ukraine pilot nicknamed "The Ghost of Kyiv" who downed SIX Russian aircraft during the first day of fighting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjbr6qhGPA https://preview.redd.it/o8op4t01mvj81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c122974fec24735f70c89eca6f66dc925377ac3b Video Is this true or some sort of trumped up inspirational hero type story? We’ll find out after the war. In the meantime, I’m happy with the dead Russian airplanes (and hopefully pilots - let the fuckers burn). |
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Originally Posted By Drakich: This. Obama and Biden have intentionally hamstrung domestic energy production as a policy, particularly targeting coal and oil. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Drakich: Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By GlockZen: If we cut off Russia from SWIFT we should just launch a first strike. Even during the Cold war, during the Cuban Missile crisis, war in Angola, Grenada, Vietnam, Afghanista, Georgia, Iraq on and on neither the Soviets/Russians or US went after common rails, like energy or financial. We don't like it but this is how the big boys, fight and yes it means little people get ground up in the gears of geopolitics, and countries like Ukraine and Cuba get shuffled around like little chess pieces. I think the last thing we need to do is escalate this any further, we should be concerned with reinforcing NATO countries, and just pouring as much hardware forward to make it clear to Putin he may get Ukraine but this is it. Cutting him off from SWIFT wont do shit except force him to retaliate with direct attacks on our banking and financials, or pull oil of the market, just go for broke. Again, if Biden wasn't a fuck up, what he should be doing is offering waiving every fee/tax or obstacle to oil drillers, and pipelines in the US, he should negotiating with the Saudis to flood the oil market. Fuck he should put Jared Kushner on a plane with 1 billion dollars, and a fleet of Plaid Teslas, to get MBS to pump oil. MBS doesnt want a nuclear war either. Biden/Blinken are major fuck up. Driving the price of oil down to $50 or less, would take billions out Putin's pocket and would fix inflation. Our Oil producers can produce oil at $35/ and we could subsidize them if we have to get it lower. This will take cash right out Russia. You can see that right now the US is a deer in the headlights. They aren't fuckups. They are consciously working against or own interests. This. Obama and Biden have intentionally hamstrung domestic energy production as a policy, particularly targeting coal and oil. Probably due to them wanting to get into the oil gas game Hunter 10% for the big guy Burisma oil and gas leases in the two eastern areas that Russia just recognized as independent before Putin kicked off this shitshow |
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Hearing helicopters off in the distance in Kiev.
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Originally Posted By Radio_Free_ARFCOM: Thanks to all who are contributing to this thread. Could someone please link me to a real live stream of Kiev? The stream I'm watching has 4 screens. 2 of them show Kiev with the sun rising. 2 of them show Kiev still in the middle of the night. I mean yeah it's a big city but it ain't that fucking big! View Quote Maybe two are facing westerly and two are facing easterly? Maybe... |
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Originally Posted By Radio_Free_ARFCOM: Thanks to all who are contributing to this thread. Could someone please link me to a real live stream of Kiev? The stream I'm watching has 4 screens. 2 of them show Kiev with the sun rising. 2 of them show Kiev still in the middle of the night. I mean yeah it's a big city but it ain't that fucking big! View Quote They are different directions. Look again, it's getting lighter in all of them. |
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Originally Posted By JamesP81: The only reason they can pull this operation off is because it’s next door and they committed most of their conventional forces to it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JamesP81: Originally Posted By jkitchen: Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. The only reason they can pull this operation off is because it’s next door and they committed most of their conventional forces to it. AND because they can deter direct US intervention with a nuclear stockpile that matches our own. AND because our leadership is lacking. If some Russia didn’t have the nukes and we had competent leadership, we’d have turned Putin’s kingdom to glass by now. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO: Because it would be an Intel collection gold mine for its adversaries View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO: Originally Posted By GoldenMead: It appears to me that Russia isn’t really putting that much effort into this yet. Why are they holding back? When are they going to unleash all there assets that they have built up for this? Because it would be an Intel collection gold mine for its adversaries Exactly right. They're wasting their old Cold War tech. Fulcrums and SU-25s are ancient. Those pilots that survive get combat experience. Those that don't... well... end up dead. |
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Originally Posted By ludder093: Rookie numbers. Got to pump those up in the next few days. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. The street fighting hasn’t even began. Even in the cities Russia has “captured” they are sitting around or outside it engaging conventional forces. The meat grinder hasn’t started. |
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Originally Posted By 01ZULU: But why All SWIFT is is a secure messaging system between financial institutions. It’s doesn’t actually move and money. It’s like a promissory note email message to speed things up, a bank to bank guarantee the money is on its way thru normal current bank to bank transfer method, if you will. That’s it. It’s not a balance holding account. SWIFT is not the only financial messaging system, there are a few others. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050515/how-swift-system-works.asp As powerful as SWIFT is, keep in mind that it is only a messaging system. SWIFT does not hold any funds or securities, nor does it manage client accounts Although there are other message services like Fedwire, Ripple, and Clearing House Interbank Payments System (CHIPS), SWIFT continues to retain its dominant position in the market. Its success is attributed to how it continually adds new message codes to transmit different financial transactions View Quote SWIFT cuts Russia out of the ability to transact in the international banking system. The impact would be felt at the business level, it would crush their GDP hard. We did this to Iran. |
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Originally Posted By Radio_Free_ARFCOM: Ok That's what it is. I'm a dumbass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZebYm-nenY View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Radio_Free_ARFCOM: Originally Posted By CTAC: Whats that link? The one I'm on shows sumy and odessa the other 2 kiev. Kiev gonna be hopping tomorrow...gonna need that link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZebYm-nenY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIPNVm6lNfM&ab_channel=Politischios.gr |
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