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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:24:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Some tweets about Starlink. $20m/month is rough.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:26:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Very creative story you have there.  But no. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By PM4E: Meh, the timeline makes sense to me: 1. Elon donates the Starlink, gets a lot of love and praise online 2. Love and praise dying down, so he makes the "peace proposal" - dude thought people would see him as a genius 3. Elon's ego got bruised yet again, so now he wants the money from the Pentagon 4. Pentagon leaks the money request. In the end, the $20M is pennies and sure, the US should pay him if the service is working out for Ukraine. But if the whole world was like, "holy shit, Elon's peace proposal involving giving up land to Russia is genius.. why hasn't anyone thought of this??" like he was expecting, we wouldn't be at this stage. Very creative story you have there. But no. Spot the lie. You can't. Elon didn't care about the money until his ego got bruised. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:27:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Looks like an assisted aiming thermal sight with laser rangefinder and ballistic computer to let you know where rounds will hit. Also export compatible restricted framerate.
Ukrainian sniper making 1.2km shots at Russian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3y72h/a_ukrainian_sniper_engaging_a_russian_infantry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:32:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: As critical as I am about Musk (including his closeness with Russia in the past) and being 100% on Ukraine's side, I agree that he should be paid for his Starlink service. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Some tweets about Starlink. $20m/month is rough.
As critical as I am about Musk (including his closeness with Russia in the past) and being 100% on Ukraine's side, I agree that he should be paid for his Starlink service. Back in April https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/ |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:36:54 AM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:37:02 AM EST
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I can't hate the guy but I'm pretty upset Elon proposed throwing Taiwan under the bus too. Possibly to get a better deal with making his cars in China.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:37:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Back in April https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Zam18th: Some tweets about Starlink. $20m/month is rough.
As critical as I am about Musk (including his closeness with Russia in the past) and being 100% on Ukraine's side, I agree that he should be paid for his Starlink service. Back in April https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/ That was debunked. IIRC, they paid for some additional terminals in addition to what SpaceX sent. ETA I don't want to slide the thread anymore |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:38:44 AM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:38:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. -Robert J. Hanlon The right has just as many mentally ill stupid motherfuckers as the left does.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:42:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I can't hate the guy but I'm pretty upset Elon proposed throwing Taiwan under the bus too. Possibly to get a better deal with making his cars in China. For many, it makes decision making easy to simply throw morality under the bus for self serving interests. People should be paid fairly for their services they provide, but allowing Communism to spread and subjugate people for ones own personal gain is morally bankrupt. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:45:01 AM EST
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Ukrainian artillery comes close to a Russian unit, looks like some injuries.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3vyzv/a_close_arrival_of_artillery_of_the_armed_forces/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:46:48 AM EST
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Drone dropped grenade takes out Russian machine gunner.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3sejo/ukraine_drone_dropped_munition_takes_out_russian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:48:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Looks like an assisted aiming thermal sight with laser rangefinder and ballistic computer to let you know where rounds will hit. Also export compatible restricted framerate. Ukrainian sniper making 1.2km shots at Russian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3y72h/a_ukrainian_sniper_engaging_a_russian_infantry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:49:19 AM EST
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Two Russian tanks claimed to be hit by artillery.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3n9da/ukraines_57th_motorized_brigade_striking_2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:51:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: I am really curious as to why he tried to promote such a heavily Russian biased peace plan Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By Yobro512: Please. What exact power does Russia have over elon musk. They’ve been enemies with spacex for 20 years and Spacex and musk has absolutely dunked on them over and over in the last 7 years. I am really curious as to why he tried to promote such a heavily Russian biased peace plan I agree. Russians / FSB are master of deceptive, unethical, and shady practices. “Kompromat” - or compromising information - is one of the FSB’s favorite weapons to coerce targets. The “kompromat” can be real, or fabricated. Imagine the FSB managed to locate a recording of Musk saying a racist word, or a comment that could be construed as racist? (he is, after all, born and raised in South Africa, so it’s not implausible). Imagine the FSB fabricated the recording (does not matter either way), it would: - potentially sink Tesla’s sales in the US and Europe, costing him billions. What if the FSB located (or fabricated) evidence of an affair by Musk? Point is: there are many ways the FSB could have gotten to Musk. I also find his recent comments quite odd, and implausible. But FSB blackmail? That makes sense. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:55:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Damn, good work on the snipers part...I mean...that's so sad, those invaders probably didn't want to be there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Looks like an assisted aiming thermal sight with laser rangefinder and ballistic computer to let you know where rounds will hit. Also export compatible restricted framerate. Ukrainian sniper making 1.2km shots at Russian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3y72h/a_ukrainian_sniper_engaging_a_russian_infantry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb Facinating to see though. It reminds me of the old Tracking Point aiming system tested years ago.  Next Level Shit: Insane Accuracy at Tracking Point Or Smart Shooter.  This high-tech rifle sight pulls the trigger for you | GearScout |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 11:58:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
 Assuming there's still a Russia by then. Fixed? In current form anyway |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:00:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Fixed? In current form anyway Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
Assuming there's still a Russia by then. Fixed? In current form anyway Fast forward to May 2023 when Russia blows the Kerch Bridge to stop Ukraine's advance. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:00:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: And if any of the left over ordnance is rigged to explode inside of the tank or artillery piece? That would be my concern. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfCg8y_XkAEpcoC?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfChBRFXEAE_DJN?format=jpg&name=900x900 And if any of the left over ordnance is rigged to explode inside of the tank or artillery piece? That would be my concern. Eldest Son has been mentioned time and again in this thread. There's no way Russia could pull that off without blowing up their own under trained conscripts on a regular basis. Boobytrap crates and rooms, yes; individual rounds to blow up when used, not very likely. Heck, they barely have the logistics capability to supply beans and bullets to their own troops. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:01:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: stgdz]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Facinating to see though. It reminds me of the old Tracking Point aiming system tested years ago.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0oGZ4TZr5kOr Smart Shooter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndBgiTsIRWIQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Looks like an assisted aiming thermal sight with laser rangefinder and ballistic computer to let you know where rounds will hit. Also export compatible restricted framerate. Ukrainian sniper making 1.2km shots at Russian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3y72h/a_ukrainian_sniper_engaging_a_russian_infantry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb Facinating to see though. It reminds me of the old Tracking Point aiming system tested years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0oGZ4TZr5kOr Smart Shooter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndBgiTsIRWIAnd at what point do the ukranians figure out how to put that rifle setup on a stugna-p aiming system/chassis. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:05:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: I agree. Russians / FSB are master of deceptive, unethical, and shady practices. “Kompromat” - or compromising information - is one of the FSB’s favorite weapons to coerce targets. The “kompromat” can be real, or fabricated. Imagine the FSB managed to locate a recording of Musk saying a racist word, or a comment that could be construed as racist? (he is, after all, born and raised in South Africa, so it’s not implausible). Imagine the FSB fabricated the recording (does not matter either way), it would: - potentially sink Tesla’s sales in the US and Europe, costing him billions. What if the FSB located (or fabricated) evidence of an affair by Musk? Point is: there are many ways the FSB could have gotten to Musk. I also find his recent comments quite odd, and implausible. But FSB blackmail? That makes sense. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By Yobro512: Please. What exact power does Russia have over elon musk. They’ve been enemies with spacex for 20 years and Spacex and musk has absolutely dunked on them over and over in the last 7 years. I am really curious as to why he tried to promote such a heavily Russian biased peace plan I agree. Russians / FSB are master of deceptive, unethical, and shady practices. “Kompromat” - or compromising information - is one of the FSB’s favorite weapons to coerce targets. The “kompromat” can be real, or fabricated. Imagine the FSB managed to locate a recording of Musk saying a racist word, or a comment that could be construed as racist? (he is, after all, born and raised in South Africa, so it’s not implausible). Imagine the FSB fabricated the recording (does not matter either way), it would: - potentially sink Tesla’s sales in the US and Europe, costing him billions. What if the FSB located (or fabricated) evidence of an affair by Musk? Point is: there are many ways the FSB could have gotten to Musk. I also find his recent comments quite odd, and implausible. But FSB blackmail? That makes sense. Musk used to work closely with Russia and purchased rocket motors from them I believe. He isn't well versed in Ukrainian history at all (or the history of our Bill of Rights either, 2A especially). Could always be blackmail or he could just be trying to play both sides to look smart (the rich and famous have a habit of developing a savior complex to feed their egos). He may be a genius on high tech but he and others who idolize him probably feel he is brilliant on everything- he is not. Most of America is ignorant of our own history let alone the history of Ukraine so to them Musk sounds reasonable when he says that Ukraine should give up land to end the war (which it wouldn't). |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:07:39 PM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:08:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: And at what point do the ukranians figure out how to put that rifle setup on a stugna-p aiming system/chassis. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Looks like an assisted aiming thermal sight with laser rangefinder and ballistic computer to let you know where rounds will hit. Also export compatible restricted framerate. Ukrainian sniper making 1.2km shots at Russian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3y72h/a_ukrainian_sniper_engaging_a_russian_infantry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb Facinating to see though. It reminds me of the old Tracking Point aiming system tested years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0oGZ4TZr5kOr Smart Shooter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndBgiTsIRWIAnd at what point do the ukranians figure out how to put that rifle setup on a stugna-p aiming system/chassis. lol, you don't need to. The Stugna uses a rangfinding laser and a laser riding guided round. The systems I showed basically allow dumb rifle caliber rounds to have a higher chance to hit. Guided atoms are another animal altogether. Now put that rifle and sight in a remote station, with a video feed, it could be done. We did it alot for remote gun mounts for armored vehicles. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:09:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: This smells like bullshit. A quick check confirms it’s bullshit. Yep, it’s bullshit. Frankly, it’s difficult to accept that folks could believe it to be true if they took 2 minutes to look at WHO is posting this story all over. And to give it a moment of critical thought. But here we are. It's discouraging to see so many falling for these fake stories who should have been reasonably expected to see through them. 
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:09:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: And at what point do the ukranians figure out how to put that rifle setup on a stugna-p aiming system/chassis. Given that a Stugna-P is a "powered/guided" system, a ballistic computer doesn't make much sense for it. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:10:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: I agree. Russians / FSB are master of deceptive, unethical, and shady practices. “Kompromat” - or compromising information - is one of the FSB’s favorite weapons to coerce targets. The “kompromat” can be real, or fabricated. Imagine the FSB managed to locate a recording of Musk saying a racist word, or a comment that could be construed as racist? (he is, after all, born and raised in South Africa, so it’s not implausible). Imagine the FSB fabricated the recording (does not matter either way), it would: - potentially sink Tesla’s sales in the US and Europe, costing him billions. What if the FSB located (or fabricated) evidence of an affair by Musk? Point is: there are many ways the FSB could have gotten to Musk. I also find his recent comments quite odd, and implausible. But FSB blackmail? That makes sense. Like others have mentioned his actions are very much Pro-Ukraine. I bet when this is over Starlink will be credited as a major factor. Russia is completely failing at comms and Ukraine isn't. But to come out and say "Give Russia everything they want, ignore all the damages and losses you've taken and be left vulnerable" doesn't seem to match what he's done. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:11:42 PM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:12:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Fixed? In current form anyway Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By Zam18th:
Assuming there's still a Russia by then. Fixed? In current form anyway That date, in the context of their other usually completely unreasonable demands, is pretty good confirmation that the bridge is every bit as fucked as we thought. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:17:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: Lol what? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/2003B86C-A169-4FC1-87B9-20D13F595A55-2562455.jpg Let me guess, you read the tweet but nothing else? How did they leave Dan Rather out of that line up? |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:17:40 PM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:19:11 PM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:20:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: The canal to Crimea branches off in Nova Kakhovka. I've seen in stated incorrectly on here many times. Nova Kakhovka is going to be much easier to liberate than Kherson, comparatively. Nova Kakhovka is smaller than Cherson, but it´s behind the Dnipro ( Sp? ). So it´s attacking over a bridge, and there´s a dam, too! Hermann |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:21:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Well, there go the last of the semi-accurate Russian sources. Semi-accurate may be generous, but you know what I mean. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:24:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Musk used to work closely with Russia and purchased rocket motors from them I believe. He isn't well versed in Ukrainian history at all (or the history of our Bill of Rights either, 2A especially). Could always be blackmail or he could just be trying to play both sides to look smart (the rich and famous have a habit of developing a savior complex to feed their egos). He may be a genius on high tech but he and others who idolize him probably feel he is brilliant on everything- he is not. Most of America is ignorant of our own history let alone the history of Ukraine so to them Musk sounds reasonable when he says that Ukraine should give up land to end the war (which it wouldn't). |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:25:02 PM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:28:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:30:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Damn, that sounded wicked. Those guys have zero tactical sense. No wonder they are getting their asses handed to them. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:30:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: There is actually an Iranian/Persian DNA connection to Ukrainians. A large nomadic Iranian tribe settled in many parts of Ukraine called the Sythians. More info here: http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CS%5CC%5CScythians.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians I was wondering why I see so many passably Latina appearing women from there. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:32:10 PM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:32:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Well, there go the last of the semi-accurate Russian sources. Semi-accurate may be generous, but you know what I mean. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Well, there go the last of the semi-accurate Russian sources. Semi-accurate may be generous, but you know what I mean. lol, they were an interesting source of info at times.
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:32:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Ukranians are nailing their power supply in order to disrupt the russian logistics? Is that probably it? |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:35:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Ukranians are nailing their power supply in order to disrupt the russian logistics? Is that probably it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Ukranians are nailing their power supply in order to disrupt the russian logistics? Is that probably it? Probably Definitely sounded like something coming in, not partisan activity, but actual strike outside Ukrainian territory. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:36:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI can safely criticize anyone from my couch with Cheetos and hot pockets
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:36:14 PM EST
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:38:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Damn, that sounded wicked. Those guys have zero tactical sense. No wonder they are getting their asses handed to them. Was that some kind of airburst? It looked like they got hit with a shotgun from above. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:38:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Looks like an assisted aiming thermal sight with laser rangefinder and ballistic computer to let you know where rounds will hit. Also export compatible restricted framerate. Ukrainian sniper making 1.2km shots at Russian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3y72h/a_ukrainian_sniper_engaging_a_russian_infantry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb That's pretty sweet. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:39:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Damn, that sounded wicked. Those guys have zero tactical sense. No wonder they are getting their asses handed to them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Damn, that sounded wicked. Those guys have zero tactical sense. No wonder they are getting their asses handed to them. Gunner is lucky he didn’t canoe that dudes head. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:42:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: stone-age]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Looks like an assisted aiming thermal sight with laser rangefinder and ballistic computer to let you know where rounds will hit. Also export compatible restricted framerate. Ukrainian sniper making 1.2km shots at Russian forces. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y3y72h/a_ukrainian_sniper_engaging_a_russian_infantry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb That's a talented shooter with some great gear.. Edited to add people are saying it's the Accuracy International system. That's about as good as it gets. I'm curious what round is being shot but I doubt anybody knows. |
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:43:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 10/14/2022 12:45:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: It's discouraging to see so many falling for these fake stories who should have been reasonably expected to see through them. Have you not been reading Arf the past few years? |
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