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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:15:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: Big day for air defense. I wonder how many Ka-52s are still serviceable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: Originally Posted By Easterner:   https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20230124_094415_jpg-2683432.JPG Big day for air defense. I wonder how many Ka-52s are still serviceable. From estimates, there are probably less than 50 serviceable Ka-52's. Either a new tactic is being employed and Ukrainians are getting closer to the Russian air power and ambushing it. Or other more powerful air defense systems are being used closer to the front on the Ukrainian side. Either way, it's a significant number of air kills the past few days. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:16:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Chaingun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Your terms are acceptable. But I would also insist on LA, Houston, Chicago, and Miami. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By torstin: If you could magically send half of Baltimore or Memphis to fight for Ukraine, would you do so? Your terms are acceptable. But I would also insist on LA, Houston, Chicago, and Miami. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:24:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:27:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:30:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:31:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryJeebus that's like 8 bit. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:33:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:35:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:37:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat will raise morale on cold days. 
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:37:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:49:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/C19D1512-3750-4C2C-B3A2-BC38817ABFD6-2683439.jpg https://ru.interfax.com.ua/news/general/886519.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/9D7436A8-B328-42DF-BB82-3A115FB75F0A-2683438.jpg https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-ato/3657970-zagarbniki-evakuuut-z-luganska-simi-vijskovih-rf.html Nothing like a good, old fashioned book burning! Completely necessary to oppose the globohomo, I'm sure. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:51:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Property worth 10 million (*UAH): SAP asks the Prosecutor General to open a case against MP Halimon
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By Jack67: Anti-corruption threats showing teeth. Many officials dismissed, prosecution threatened. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64383388 Property worth 10 million (*UAH): SAP asks the Prosecutor General to open a case against MP Halimon
This all looks really bad to the outside world that's been pouring money into Ukraine..atleast Zelensky is now tackling the issue. I just hope it's not to late. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:56:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ryan_Ruck]
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Quote HistoryThat looks on par with looking through my 1997 vintage AN/PAS-19.   AN/PAS-19 (Magnavox HHTI) Thermal Scope |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:56:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: This all looks really bad to the outside world that's been pouring money into Ukraine..atleast Zelensky is now tackling the issue. I just hope it's not to late. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:56:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Los Angeles, Oakland, and SF step into the chat... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By torstin: If you could magically send half of Baltimore or Memphis to fight for Ukraine, would you do so? Your terms are acceptable. But I would also insist on LA, Houston, Chicago, and Miami. Portland and Seattle demand a seat at that table... |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:58:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Portland and Seattle demand a seat at that table... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By torstin: If you could magically send half of Baltimore or Memphis to fight for Ukraine, would you do so? Your terms are acceptable. But I would also insist on LA, Houston, Chicago, and Miami. Portland and Seattle demand a seat at that table... Buy what about NYC? North Jersey. Philly. Shit, war would be over by Easter. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:00:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: All around a BMP with a 30mm gun on it. Crew? Resolution isnt enough to not see weapons. Could also be convicts sent forward to draw fire or be shot by the officers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By sawgunner73: More drone/drop/roll footage. May be a repeat, who knows with this awful shit 
None of these guys seem to have any weapons? All around a BMP with a 30mm gun on it. Crew? Resolution isnt enough to not see weapons. Could also be convicts sent forward to draw fire or be shot by the officers. Watch the last 8 seconds. Two of them have weapons |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:03:56 AM EDT
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Oh come on, just do the right thing guys.
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:05:20 AM EDT
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ISW assessment for January 23rd.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-january-23-2023 |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:07:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: UA BTR-4 with a small lateral through and through with only a little spall damage.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnOp4W7XEAEUvKR?format=jpg&name=medium 
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:09:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:10:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: carcrazysammy]
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Ukraine downs 3 Russian helicopters in 30 miniutes.
Ukraine has destroyed three Russian helicopters in just half an hour, its air force has claimed. Last night three Ka-52 choppers became the latest casualties of Vladimir Putin's botched invasion, with an estimated 281 of the Kremlin's helicopters downed since the outbreak of war 11 months ago. The £12million single-seat aircraft is nicknamed the Black Shark and has been described as Russia's 'deadliest helicopter'. Meanwhile, a Ukrainian spy chief has warned that if Russia's new offensive fails, it could be the 'ruin' of president Putin. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:11:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:12:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Oh come on, just do the right thing guys.
Such bullshit.. Poland and the rest of Europe need to just do what's right. Germany is just out for themselves and to gain whatever they can by hiding the situation hostage |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:12:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sq40]
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Oh come on, just do the right thing guys.
After this fiasco, Germany deserves to lose much of its export market in terms of weapons, and all of Eastern Europe should get Abrams after sending their Leopards to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:15:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: That will raise morale on cold days. It sure would. It would be a real nasty crock pot afterwards though |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:17:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:17:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryExcellent. We need that clear minded leadership here. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:18:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: It sure would. It would be a real nasty crock pot afterwards though Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: That will raise morale on cold days. It sure would. It would be a real nasty crock pot afterwards though lol, they need disposable one use tubs.
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:18:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu:
He's doing what he has to do in order to save his country. I'd be doing the same thing if I was in his shoes. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:23:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: After this fiasco, Germany deserves to lose much of its export market in terms of weapons, and all of Eastern Europe should get Abrams after sending their Leopards to Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Oh come on, just do the right thing guys.
After this fiasco, Germany deserves to lose much of its export market in terms of weapons, and all of Eastern Europe should get Abrams after sending their Leopards to Ukraine. I'm still wondering if there's going to be a surprise upset where we suddenly supply more than a few M1's to Ukraine proper.
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:30:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Oh come on, just do the right thing guys.
When is the last time Germany wasn't a hindrance if not an outright detriment? I'd bet horses were still a main mode of travel |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:30:12 AM EDT
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Well, there it is .gif
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:30:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Oh come on, just do the right thing guys.
How many Ukrainians will die because this delay? Their blood will be on the Germans hands. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:33:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IEC: I'm sure in the Kremlin they never counted on convicts amounting to much of anything but "cannon meat". If they killed a few Ukrainian TDF in the process of acting as human meat shields/arty bait, bonus. That's 50K fever convicts they have to house, feed, guard. That's probably worth a Lada or two, no? It's really not a bad idea and remember, they volunteered. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:35:55 AM EDT
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"Sky News Arabia" of all places says 10 Abrams.
https://www.skynewsarabia.com/world/1591284-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%BA%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%86%D8%B9-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%86-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B0-%D8%AE%D8%B7%D9%88%D8%A9-%D9%85%D9%87%D9%85%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%94%D9%88%D9%83%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A7 |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:36:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stevo89: So, status quo, then? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stevo89: Originally Posted By Capta: Yep, this is all about Putin and the ruling class staying in power regardless of the cost to Russia. 140M people will be plunged into decades of misery thanks to their leaders and their own brutal history. It’s sad. So, status quo, then? Okay, sustained misery then. I feel for the future generations of Russians yet to come. Nobody deserves to be born into that. 
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:41:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Well, there it is .gif
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:42:33 AM EDT
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Car bomb in Berdyansk targeting pro-Russian "entrepreneur", target allegedly survived.
 Details of today's explosion in Berdyansk At about 4 pm on Rudenko Street near school No. 5, a VAZ car belonging to local businessman Valentina Mamai was blown up, who, according to preliminary information, was in the car at the time of the explosion. Law enforcement agencies and employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations are working on the spot https://t.me/vrogov/7304 |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:48:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Russians deleted by anti-personnel mine Ukrainian artillery scores a direct hit on a group of Russian soldiers. Ukrainian drone dropping munitions on Russians viewed in IR.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:53:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 12:01:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Oh come on, just do the right thing guys.
Think about? Seriously? What in the actual fuck is going on? 2 weeks? Why do they need 2 weeks? What are they actually doing while they tell us they are "thinking about"? |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 12:04:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: I think the only people who are shocked are those who are shocked something is actually being done about it. That's not normal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By AROKIE: This all looks really bad to the outside world that's been pouring money into Ukraine..atleast Zelensky is now tackling the issue. I just hope it's not to late. Like Trump here in the USA . . . . . CMOS |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 12:04:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Well, there it is .gif
Seeing video of M1s smashing T tanks/BTRs/BMPs would arouse me almost as much as video of destroyed Tu-160. 
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Posted: 1/24/2023 12:06:55 PM EDT
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Very interesting article in Der Spiegel. Interview with a polsih political expert and think-tank member of the European Council on Foreign Relations. It's behind a paywall, so you can look at it here if you read German: https://archive.is/r1yDZ . Unfortunately, that won't work with Google Translate so I hope you guys appreciate me translating it on the fly and typing all of this up.
 The loss of reputation is catastrophic Berlin's hesitation in delivering Leopard outrages the Eastern Europeans, says political expert Piotr Buras. Many are asking if the Germans areserious about their support for Ukraine - or if doing business with Moscow is more important. SPIEGEL: The polish government is disappointed in Germany, because they still haven't decided if they will deliver Leopard tanks. Has Polen understood why Germany is being so hesitant? Buras: The polish public - and not just them - is confused but also outraged at the Germans (Note Zhukov: He specifically says Germans - not German government). How controversial the internal debate is that there is also German criticism does not get through. Olaf Scholz represents the Germans. And he actually never really explained his arguments. SPIEGEL: What is Poland suspecting? Buras: Many in Warsaw believe that Berlin doesn't believe that Ukraine can still accomplish much in this war. And that's why, from the Germans' point of view, it's not worth getting involved there. Some even suspect that the Germans wish for Ukraine to lose. SPIEGEL: Why should they? Buras: There is fear that the Germans hope to quickly return to doing business with Russia. They forget that Berlin is one of the most important arms suppliers to Ukraine. But their zig-zagging, this reluctance, has been observed again and again since the beginning of the war. The Germans don't act, they only react when international pressure is overwhelming. People here believe that their commitment is really serious. The loss of reputation as a result is catastrophic. Ramstein's decision not to supply tanks is seen as a blockade. SPIEGEL: The Poles have doubts that the promised turning point is really coming? Buras: Olaf Scholz's speech was received with enthusiasm. And I believe that Germany has also come a long way in recent months when it comes to taking a critical look at Russia, for example. The turning point - not the one promised by Scholz, but the real one in the world - goes deeper. Much more is expected of Germany. But the country somehow always lags behind. SPIEGEL: The German government does not show a unified front. Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock has signaled that Berlin would approve Leopard exports from countries like Poland. Can Berlin actually still say no to their own deliveries? Buras: I believe and hope that it is only a matter of time before Germany agrees on the Leopard issue. The long hesitation has set the political price for a no even higher. Defense Minister Boris Pistorius has given a test order for the Leos, Ukrainians are probably already being trained on the device. I can't imagine that the government could now seriously come to the decision that it actually doesn't want to supply tanks. That could no longer be conveyed to anyone among the international partners. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 12:08:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2023 12:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Very interesting article in Der Spiegel. Interview with a polsih political expert and think-tank member of the European Council on Foreign Relations. It's behind a paywall, so you can look at it here if you read German: https://archive.is/r1yDZ . Unfortunately, that won't work with Google Translate so I hope you guys appreciate me translating it on the fly and typing all of this up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Very interesting article in Der Spiegel. Interview with a polsih political expert and think-tank member of the European Council on Foreign Relations. It's behind a paywall, so you can look at it here if you read German: https://archive.is/r1yDZ . Unfortunately, that won't work with Google Translate so I hope you guys appreciate me translating it on the fly and typing all of this up. The loss of reputation is catastrophic Berlin's hesitation in delivering Leopard outrages the Eastern Europeans, says political expert Piotr Buras. Many are asking if the Germans areserious about their support for Ukraine - or if doing business with Moscow is more important. SPIEGEL: The polish government is disappointed in Germany, because they still haven't decided if they will deliver Leopard tanks. Has Polen understood why Germany is being so hesitant? Buras: The polish public - and not just them - is confused but also outraged at the Germans (Note Zhukov: He specifically says Germans - not German government). How controversial the internal debate is that there is also German criticism does not get through. Olaf Scholz represents the Germans. And he actually never really explained his arguments. SPIEGEL: What is Poland suspecting? Buras: Many in Warsaw believe that Berlin doesn't believe that Ukraine can still accomplish much in this war. And that's why, from the Germans' point of view, it's not worth getting involved there. Some even suspect that the Germans wish for Ukraine to lose. SPIEGEL: Why should they? Buras: There is fear that the Germans hope to quickly return to doing business with Russia. They forget that Berlin is one of the most important arms suppliers to Ukraine. But their zig-zagging, this reluctance, has been observed again and again since the beginning of the war. The Germans don't act, they only react when international pressure is overwhelming. People here believe that their commitment is really serious. The loss of reputation as a result is catastrophic. Ramstein's decision not to supply tanks is seen as a blockade. SPIEGEL: The Poles have doubts that the promised turning point is really coming? Buras: Olaf Scholz's speech was received with enthusiasm. And I believe that Germany has also come a long way in recent months when it comes to taking a critical look at Russia, for example. The turning point - not the one promised by Scholz, but the real one in the world - goes deeper. Much more is expected of Germany. But the country somehow always lags behind. SPIEGEL: The German government does not show a unified front. Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock has signaled that Berlin would approve Leopard exports from countries like Poland. Can Berlin actually still say no to their own deliveries? Buras: I believe and hope that it is only a matter of time before Germany agrees on the Leopard issue. The long hesitation has set the political price for a no even higher. Defense Minister Boris Pistorius has given a test order for the Leos, Ukrainians are probably already being trained on the device. I can't imagine that the government could now seriously come to the decision that it actually doesn't want to supply tanks. That could no longer be conveyed to anyone among the international partners. I appreciate reading about these perspectives, and the time you took to translate that for us. Thank you for that. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 12:11:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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So you're going to see about 100 Leopard 2's to Ukraine, and perhaps the same or more numbers of M1's. That gives the Ukrainian general the 200+ Western tanks and additional infantry fighting vehicles to make offensive gains in the Spring. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 12:16:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Squatch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Oh come on, just do the right thing guys.
The German press is behind Scholz, too. Here's the Bild painting an apparent decision by Biden to send Abrams as a success for Scholz. "Biden will send tanks now, after all. Success for Scholz?" "Did Scholz prevail in the tank debate against Biden?"  Attached File |
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