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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:00:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2awhTHWYAAoH3z?format=png&name=small
Earlier in the war Poland and the uk bartered some deal with Pakistan about shipping hundreds of containers monthly of various ammunition types including 122, 155, 203, and manpads. I wonder if those made it? Some were observed before being used so obvious some made it.    
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:07:09 AM EDT
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So it's a rough morning. Irish and the Brit are in the hospital from shrapnel injuries. Both should be OK. Another guy from our group was KIA due to artillery. He was not an inexperienced soldier and was very squared away. So say a prayer for these guys out here, and to their families.
There was also a recent fundraiser to send gear to this training battalion. I hope that is on the way to them, but no one seems to know the status of that. I really don't want to dig into what's going on. The silence from those involved speaks for itself. Have a good day gentlemen. Tell your friends you love them and spend time with them while you can. Life is too short. We have work to do. Слава Україні |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:11:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: So it's a rough morning. Irish and the Brit are in the hospital from shrapnel injuries. Both should be OK. Another guy from our group was KIA due to artillery. He was not an inexperienced soldier and was very squared away. So say a prayer for these guys out here, and to their families. There was also a recent  fundraiser to send gear to this training battalion. I hope that is on the way to them, but no one seems to know the status of that. I really don't want to dig into what's going on. The silence from those involved speaks for itself. Have a good day gentlemen. Tell your friends you love them and spend time with them while you can. Life is too short. We have work to do. Слава Україні
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Posted: 8/1/2023 1:16:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: That's exactly what Girkin and some others have been calling for for over a year. They need FULL national mobilization. They've got the rhetoric and propaganda. But they haven't pulled the trigger. They're happy to uproot all the villages in Dagestan and Buryatia, but they don't want to upset the apple carts in Moscow and St. Petersburg. I mean, those are exactly the young people who have the least support for Putin's war. Watch another 1420 video, and tell me full mobilization in Moscow & St Petersburg is likely to be successful for Putin.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSgck7RGG14Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By ad_nauseam: Russia is making the same mistake Germany made in WWII, or before WWII. See, Russia was fully industrialized and mobilized for war - the entire society. Women drove combines, kids worked in factories making ammo. Russia was fully in the war mode way before 1939, or 1941. In fact Stalin started the program in late 20's, early 30's. Germany did not industrialize the society to the same extent. They kind of did, towards the end, but it was too little, too late. I knew from day one of the "Special Operation" that RF is not going to win until they declare total war, total mobilization (meaning everyone 16-60). Insert everyone.gif And like during WWII times, the entire civilian production shifts to war production. Bike factories making PPSH submachine guns, etc. etc. They can't have it both ways. Maintain a normal peaceful society and win on that front. If they mobilized everyone, Ukraine would not stand a chance, it would get captured the same way Berlin did (200K lost in just the Berlin battle). Not that I endorse this, just saying. That's exactly what Girkin and some others have been calling for for over a year. They need FULL national mobilization. They've got the rhetoric and propaganda. But they haven't pulled the trigger. They're happy to uproot all the villages in Dagestan and Buryatia, but they don't want to upset the apple carts in Moscow and St. Petersburg. I mean, those are exactly the young people who have the least support for Putin's war. Watch another 1420 video, and tell me full mobilization in Moscow & St Petersburg is likely to be successful for Putin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSgck7RGG14Girkin and people like him are both right and wrong. Really more wrong. They’re right in that Russia has NEVER brought enough manpower to conquer Ukraine since day one. Full mass mobilization is their only chance at winning militarily outright. Besides NATO chickening out. They’re wrong in that real, full mobilization probably creates more problems than it solves. It was a shitshow at a tenth the amount of manpower that Russia needs to win outright. They can barely supply circa 250K men in the field. And I use the word “supply” loosely. An army of 2 million would literally starve to death. Full mobilization would also probably be seen by NATO as a direct threat because it would give Russia the capability to throw bodies at political goals (Poland/The Baltics) where they can’t now. I’d go so far as to say that Poland would see it as an imminent threat and begin mass mobilization as well, and probably join the war either covertly or overtly. Finland would probably mobilize. More and better arms would flow to Ukraine. The only things full mobilization can guarantee is a lot more dead Russians and the total collapse of the Russian Empire. It would make 1917 look tame. I think Girkin is an intelligent man but I think he has a large blind spot about what is actually possible for Russia as opposed to what he would like to be possible. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:07:25 AM EDT
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Kharkiv Governor
Kharkivshchyna, August 1 ❗️ At around midnight, the enemy struck Kharkiv with Shahed drones. A three-story building of an educational institution in the Saltiv district was hit. 2 floors were destroyed, there was a fire. No casualties. Three more "arrivals" were recorded on the territory of the sports complex in the Shevchenkiv district. A damaged two-story building. A 63-year-old security guard was injured and hospitalized. ▪️ During the day, the enemy shelled the settlements of Chuguyiv, Bogoduhiv, Kharkiv, Izyum and Kupian districts. In particular, Udy, Veterinarne, Staritsa, Vovchansk, Kolodyazne, Novomlynsk and other settlements were under enemy fire. Residential buildings, commercial buildings were damaged, and fires broke out. 🔶 Pyrotechnicians of the State Emergency Service defused 50 explosive objects in a day. ▪️ On the Kupyansk direction last day, our soldiers successfully repelled another attempt of an enemy assault in the area east of Berestovo. https://t.me/synegubov/6748  
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:08:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:13:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mac130: These feel like test runs for a bigger event One would hope so |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:13:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed another attempted attack by unmanned boats on the Russian patrol ships "Vasily Bykov" and "Sergey Kotov" in the southwestern part of the Black Sea.
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the targets were successfully hit. This is the second attack in a week on the Black Sea Fleet in approximately the same area as the last time during the attack on the Kotov. At the time of the drone attack east of the coast of Bulgaria - in the same place where the patrol ships were - the American UAV MQ-9A Reaper was operating from the Kympiya-Turziy airbase, which directed the drones, and now the RQ-4D Phoenix is operating in this zone. In addition, 12 hours earlier, a Portuguese Tekever AR5 UAV, which is used by Ukrainian formations to escort naval drones, was in the Zmiinoye area. This indicates that the drones were once again launched from the mouth of the Danube River. #Russia Ukraine https://t.me/rybar_in_english/5119  
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:24:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Not quite how I remember it... I'd love to have one of those medals for the collection though, it'd go right next to my 30mm casing from the engagement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By RockNwood: @DASJUDEN. Some lucky Apache pilots are are immortalized on a Russian medal 😁
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_2478-2902451.jpg Not quite how I remember it... I'd love to have one of those medals for the collection though, it'd go right next to my 30mm casing from the engagement. Awesome. If you don't mind me asking, how well does the 30mm perform? I recall reading a NDIA slide a few years back that said their performance was really degraded by sand, as the round would burry itself in the sand prior to detonating, eating up a lot of the frag. Reportedly this was part of why the 30x113 Proximity airbust round was developed. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:40:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: Even if we did spent the capital to build ERCA why should the US donate its best artillery system when it has plenty of Paladins? Paladin is perfectly capable of bombarding landing parties in Taiwan, maybe even more so as the shorter barrel will move through the urban and mountain areas easier. The terrain in Taiwan is considerably different than the open plains of Europe. In the opening stages of a landing the SPG wouldn’t be facing Chinese SPGs but shore bombardment. Most naval guns will easily out range a traditional 155. Investing in large stocks of anti ship missiles and sea mines will contest the invasion further and safer for Taiwan. The light tank makes more sense when you think about the logistics on the islands we’d need to invade. Could any of the infrastructure hold up to 70 plus ton tanks? If not then we should look at different options. If we can ship two light tanks for each heavy tank that adds up. Again look at the WWII pacific campaign to get an idea of what the logistics are going to look like. A 70 ton tank on Guadalcanal is likely to get stuck often, the jungle is not nearly as friendly to thermal as other areas meaning ATGM teams have better concealment to work from. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By xd675: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I agree, I think steadily grinding Russia away with long range fires is probably their best bet until they can cause a localized collapse in an area of the front. Now would be a good time to work on experimental versions of the ERCA, which is a long barrel version of the Paladin Ukraine already operates. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Extended_Range_Cannon_Artillery_%28ERCA%29_during_a_test_March_30_at_U.S._Army_Yuma_Proving_Ground.jpg/1920px-Extended_Range_Cannon_Artillery_%28ERCA%29_during_a_test_March_30_at_U.S._Army_Yuma_Proving_Ground.jpg I’m not sure why we need to dump money at replacing Paladin. Our next war is likely to be with China and involve an island hopping campaign on tiny spits of land covered by China’s A2AD. Our cash is probably better spent developing ways to break into the A2AD, break their kill chains, destroy their version of SOSUS in the SCS, and find better and more efficient ways to clear their sea mines. Oh yeah and a butt load more ships. Navy said we needed 66 SSNs to meet our needs, we have around 47 with a couple nearing decommissioning and it’s looking like we are going to lose three pretty new boats to Australia with no plan to make up the loss. We have absolutely huge expenses that need to be spent expanding naval reactors production and yard space to work on the nuke boats. We’ve got SSNs sitting over a year waiting for basic maintenance right now. As much as I’d love to see Paladin replaced I don’t think it’s critical right now unless we’ve donated so many we have to start building them to meet our minimum needs. At that point we should look at improvements because I don’t think we have the cash to do everything at once. Having ERCA to donate to Ukraine means they can help destroy Russia more effectively with pretty basic and affordable artillery, freeing the US to focus more on Asia. It also seems like it would be handy for Taiwan as 40-70km artillery lets it bombard Chinese landing parties. Also in the scheme of US DOD expenditure SPG artillery is very cheap; the program definitely makes a lot more sense then the Booker M10 42 ton 'light' tank. I also think it would be a successful Export weapon for the US. Even if we did spent the capital to build ERCA why should the US donate its best artillery system when it has plenty of Paladins? Paladin is perfectly capable of bombarding landing parties in Taiwan, maybe even more so as the shorter barrel will move through the urban and mountain areas easier. The terrain in Taiwan is considerably different than the open plains of Europe. In the opening stages of a landing the SPG wouldn’t be facing Chinese SPGs but shore bombardment. Most naval guns will easily out range a traditional 155. Investing in large stocks of anti ship missiles and sea mines will contest the invasion further and safer for Taiwan. The light tank makes more sense when you think about the logistics on the islands we’d need to invade. Could any of the infrastructure hold up to 70 plus ton tanks? If not then we should look at different options. If we can ship two light tanks for each heavy tank that adds up. Again look at the WWII pacific campaign to get an idea of what the logistics are going to look like. A 70 ton tank on Guadalcanal is likely to get stuck often, the jungle is not nearly as friendly to thermal as other areas meaning ATGM teams have better concealment to work from. The problem with the light tank is the 105mm cannon its armed with wont defeat tanks, even as old as the T72. It's basically a 42 ton direct fire infantry/pillbox blaster. A job that to me should have been handled by a bunch of UGV golf carts with 70mm APKWS, which are small enough they could even be deployed by helicopter. _sr.jpg)
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:45:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MADMAXXX]
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Ant truth to this?
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks ETA Debunked later in this thread as a prisoner exchange, thanks for all of the responses. 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:45:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Friggin annoying how he keeps pronouncing it Neejiieeeer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Friggin annoying how he keeps pronouncing it Neejiieeeer. Very different then how I'd been pronouncing it 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:49:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Ant truth to this? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks It's Hal Turner, so I'm going to have to go with a "no." |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 2:52:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Ant truth to this? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks Given that Hal Turner is an assclown and has been wrong about literally every take on the war, I’ll go with “there is no truth to that.” |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:00:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Ant truth to this? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks No. Ask hal turner why he’s not allowed to own a firearm. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:23:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DASJUDEN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Awesome. If you don't mind me asking, how well does the 30mm perform? I recall reading a NDIA slide a few years back that said their performance was really degraded by sand, as the round would burry itself in the sand prior to detonating, eating up a lot of the frag. Reportedly this was part of why the 30x113 Proximity airbust round was developed. If proper weaponeering is done it'll kill pretty much anything you point it at (within reason.) Think of it like a 30mm grenade launcher that happens to have a shape charge component. Shooting a vehicle? It'll pen 2.5 inches of armor if it hits at the right angle. Shooting it at people? 4 meter frag radius. The frag component of the terminal ballistics is going to be dependent on surface conditions (harder surface=better effects) but other factors like angle on target play a roll as well. My biggest bitch about it has more to do with gun software versions. With the AH64E V2 software running the gun I literally sawed a guy in half with the cannon, as in all ten round on one dude from 2KM. I was an artist with that thing in Iraq. Hell it got to the point that I could single shot the cannon (not recommended it's very bad for the chain drive system) and basically snipe guys from 3-4KM if they were standing still. V4 software? I can barely get the thing to group a 10 round burst well enough to harmonize the gun. Boeing of course is doing everything in their power to deflect any blame from it but that's a story for another time. Edited to add: all the numbers on here are the open source numbers, as far as I'm tracking this still isn't a discord and I'm still not in the national guard so no secret info from me. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:32:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: If proper weaponeering is done it'll kill pretty much anything you point it at (within reason.) Think of it like a 30mm grenade launcher that happens to have a shape charge component. Shooting a vehicle? It'll pen 2.5 inches of armor if it hits at the right angle. Shooting it at people? 4 meter frag radius. The frag component of the terminal ballistics is going to be dependent on surface conditions (harder surface=better effects) but other factors like angle on target play a roll as well. My biggest bitch about it has more to do with gun software versions. With the AH64E V2 software running the gun I literally sawed a guy in half with the cannon, as in all ten round on one dude from 2KM. I was an artist with that thing in Iraq. Hell it got to the point that I could single shot the cannon (not recommended it's very bad for the chain drive system) and basically snipe guys from 3-4KM if they were standing still. V4 software? I can barely get the thing to group a 10 round burst well enough to harmonize the gun. Boeing of course is doing everything in their power to deflect any blame from it but that's a story for another time. Edited to add: all the numbers on here are the open source numbers, as far as I'm tracking this still isn't a discord and I'm still not in the national guard so no secret info from me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DASJUDEN: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Awesome. If you don't mind me asking, how well does the 30mm perform? I recall reading a NDIA slide a few years back that said their performance was really degraded by sand, as the round would burry itself in the sand prior to detonating, eating up a lot of the frag. Reportedly this was part of why the 30x113 Proximity airbust round was developed. If proper weaponeering is done it'll kill pretty much anything you point it at (within reason.) Think of it like a 30mm grenade launcher that happens to have a shape charge component. Shooting a vehicle? It'll pen 2.5 inches of armor if it hits at the right angle. Shooting it at people? 4 meter frag radius. The frag component of the terminal ballistics is going to be dependent on surface conditions (harder surface=better effects) but other factors like angle on target play a roll as well. My biggest bitch about it has more to do with gun software versions. With the AH64E V2 software running the gun I literally sawed a guy in half with the cannon, as in all ten round on one dude from 2KM. I was an artist with that thing in Iraq. Hell it got to the point that I could single shot the cannon (not recommended it's very bad for the chain drive system) and basically snipe guys from 3-4KM if they were standing still. V4 software? I can barely get the thing to group a 10 round burst well enough to harmonize the gun. Boeing of course is doing everything in their power to deflect any blame from it but that's a story for another time. Edited to add: all the numbers on here are the open source numbers, as far as I'm tracking this still isn't a discord and I'm still not in the national guard so no secret info from me. Thanks for the info; nice shooting Bizarre that software upgrade would so negatively effect the accuracy. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:43:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: No. Ask hal turner why he’s not allowed to own a firearm. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By MADMAXXX: Ant truth to this? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks No. Ask hal turner why he’s not allowed to own a firearm.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 3:46:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:19:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:22:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BillofRights]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: That's exactly what Girkin and some others have been calling for for over a year. They need FULL national mobilization. They've got the rhetoric and propaganda. But they haven't pulled the trigger. They're happy to uproot all the villages in Dagestan and Buryatia, but they don't want to upset the apple carts in Moscow and St. Petersburg. I mean, those are exactly the young people who have the least support for Putin's war. Watch another 1420 video, and tell me full mobilization in Moscow & St Petersburg is likely to be successful for Putin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSgck7RGG14Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By ad_nauseam: Russia is making the same mistake Germany made in WWII, or before WWII. See, Russia was fully industrialized and mobilized for war - the entire society. Women drove combines, kids worked in factories making ammo. Russia was fully in the war mode way before 1939, or 1941. In fact Stalin started the program in late 20's, early 30's. Germany did not industrialize the society to the same extent. They kind of did, towards the end, but it was too little, too late. I knew from day one of the "Special Operation" that RF is not going to win until they declare total war, total mobilization (meaning everyone 16-60). Insert everyone.gif And like during WWII times, the entire civilian production shifts to war production. Bike factories making PPSH submachine guns, etc. etc. They can't have it both ways. Maintain a normal peaceful society and win on that front. If they mobilized everyone, Ukraine would not stand a chance, it would get captured the same way Berlin did (200K lost in just the Berlin battle). Not that I endorse this, just saying. That's exactly what Girkin and some others have been calling for for over a year. They need FULL national mobilization. They've got the rhetoric and propaganda. But they haven't pulled the trigger. They're happy to uproot all the villages in Dagestan and Buryatia, but they don't want to upset the apple carts in Moscow and St. Petersburg. I mean, those are exactly the young people who have the least support for Putin's war. Watch another 1420 video, and tell me full mobilization in Moscow & St Petersburg is likely to be successful for Putin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSgck7RGG14Interesting how the people interviewed in that video, are smarter, more pragmatic and better informed than the all the frightened Putin bois in GD. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 4:48:30 AM EDT
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23 detained after protest. https://www.interpressnews.ge/ka/article/765492-policiam-batumis-porttan-mimdinare-akciaze-23-piri-daakava 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:10:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: It's Hal Turner, so I'm going to have to go with a "no." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By MADMAXXX: Ant truth to this? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks It's Hal Turner, so I'm going to have to go with a "no." Prisoner exchange last month. Orc propaganda re-cut the video in order to show a mass surrender of Ukrainian soldiers. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:12:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Ant truth to this? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks lol it isnt true if its from hal turner. I beleive that is russian soldiers surrendering last august near lyman anyways. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:13:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Prisoner exchange last month. Orc propaganda re-cut the video in order to show a mass surrender of Ukrainian soldiers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By MADMAXXX: Ant truth to this? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks It's Hal Turner, so I'm going to have to go with a "no." Prisoner exchange last month. Orc propaganda re-cut the video in order to show a mass surrender of Ukrainian soldiers. oh yep! sure is a prisoner exchange. Good eye. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:37:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:39:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: oh yep! sure is a prisoner exchange. Good eye. That's funny, I didn't even look at it, because...Hal turner.  Watch: Ukraine Swaps Prisoners With Russian Paramilitary Group Wagner | WSJ News 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:55:29 AM EDT
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The leader of the (Russian) Liberal Democratic Party called the attack of Ukrainian drones on Moscow a terrorist act of the Kyiv regime, whose "counteroffensive" bogged down
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Posted: 8/1/2023 5:56:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: That's funny, I didn't even look at it, because...Hal turner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5l6oTHcWMEhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F12z44nXoAAyDZE?format=png&name=small Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AROKIE: oh yep! sure is a prisoner exchange. Good eye. That's funny, I didn't even look at it, because...Hal turner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5l6oTHcWMEhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/F12z44nXoAAyDZE?format=png&name=small Tag to put a timer on this one to record how long it takes to be posted to GD |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 6:02:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 6:19:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
shit sure does burn alot in moscow. 
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:01:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: So it's a rough morning. Irish and the Brit are in the hospital from shrapnel injuries. Both should be OK. Another guy from our group was KIA due to artillery. He was not an inexperienced soldier and was very squared away. So say a prayer for these guys out here, and to their families. There was also a recent fundraiser to send gear to this training battalion. I hope that is on the way to them, but no one seems to know the status of that. I really don't want to dig into what's going on. The silence from those involved speaks for itself. Have a good day gentlemen. Tell your friends you love them and spend time with them while you can. Life is too short. We have work to do. Слава Україні Well, shit. Sorry to hear about that. I hope Irish and Brit make full recoveries. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:15:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Today I am finally allowed to reveal: this "Aspide system destroyed by russia" didn't come from Spain or Italy, it came from the Prytula foundation's woodwork shop.
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1686329693002194945
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:34:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Nice shootin' there Tex! Obviously that wasn't the gunner's first rodeo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By Prime:
Nice shootin' there Tex! Obviously that wasn't the gunner's first rodeo. Almost wonder if something else didn't hit it... |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:38:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2awhTHWYAAoH3z?format=png&name=small
So even at dream capacity 11-12 day supply at top speed vs 3 day now... damn... we have to hope that our European allies are producing as well and that most days don't hit 8k. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 7:43:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2awhTHWYAAoH3z?format=png&name=small
So in 2025 we might be able to make 1/3 of the daily expenditure? |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:01:16 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: So it's a rough morning. Irish and the Brit are in the hospital from shrapnel injuries. Both should be OK. Another guy from our group was KIA due to artillery. He was not an inexperienced soldier and was very squared away. So say a prayer for these guys out here, and to their families. There was also a recent fundraiser to send gear to this training battalion. I hope that is on the way to them, but no one seems to know the status of that. I really don't want to dig into what's going on. The silence from those involved speaks for itself. Have a good day gentlemen. Tell your friends you love them and spend time with them while you can. Life is too short. We have work to do. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:08:28 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1969iggy: So even at dream capacity 11-12 day supply at top speed vs 3 day now... damn... we have to hope that our European allies are producing as well and that most days don't hit 8k. Part of it is there are numerous other supplies for ammunition for Ukraine. Poland. Romania. Bulgaria. England. Pakistan. Slovakia. Slovenia. France. Sweden. Norway. Denmark. One fairly long and well detailed youtube video by Perun covered this and basically came to the conclusion that Ukraine wasn't going to run out of artillery rounds anytime soon and that was probably released over last fall. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:12:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Ant truth to this? https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-ukraine-troops-surrender-en-masse-white-flags-on-tanks |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:24:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mac130: These feel like test runs for a bigger event If I hit the same building in Moscow twice in 2 days the reason would be to prove to the people of moscow and all of russia that the mighty russian military and air defense can't do anything to stop me. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:38:25 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Part of it is there are numerous other supplies for ammunition for Ukraine. Poland. Romania. Bulgaria. England. Pakistan. Slovakia. Slovenia. France. Sweden. Norway. Denmark. One fairly long and well detailed youtube video by Perun covered this and basically came to the conclusion that Ukraine wasn't going to run out of artillery rounds anytime soon and that was probably released over last fall. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By 1969iggy: So even at dream capacity 11-12 day supply at top speed vs 3 day now... damn... we have to hope that our European allies are producing as well and that most days don't hit 8k. Part of it is there are numerous other supplies for ammunition for Ukraine. Poland. Romania. Bulgaria. England. Pakistan. Slovakia. Slovenia. France. Sweden. Norway. Denmark. One fairly long and well detailed youtube video by Perun covered this and basically came to the conclusion that Ukraine wasn't going to run out of artillery rounds anytime soon and that was probably released over last fall. Are all of those places manufacturing or supplying from stock? Because only one of those is a long term solution... but it's good to know. Don't remember the video but unfortunately my job interferes with being able to watch everything i want to... :( |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:38:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 8:38:55 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog15: Well, shit. Sorry to hear about that. I hope Irish and Brit make full recoveries. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog15: Originally Posted By Easterner: So it's a rough morning. Irish and the Brit are in the hospital from shrapnel injuries. Both should be OK. Another guy from our group was KIA due to artillery. He was not an inexperienced soldier and was very squared away. So say a prayer for these guys out here, and to their families. There was also a recent fundraiser to send gear to this training battalion. I hope that is on the way to them, but no one seems to know the status of that. I really don't want to dig into what's going on. The silence from those involved speaks for itself. Have a good day gentlemen. Tell your friends you love them and spend time with them while you can. Life is too short. We have work to do. Слава Україні Well, shit. Sorry to hear about that. I hope Irish and Brit make full recoveries. I video chatted with Irish this morning. I told him his new mission is to fall in love with a hot nurse. Glad those two survived. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:04:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: This hurts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Easterner: So it's a rough morning. Irish and the Brit are in the hospital from shrapnel injuries. Both should be OK. Another guy from our group was KIA due to artillery. He was not an inexperienced soldier and was very squared away. So say a prayer for these guys out here, and to their families. There was also a recent fundraiser to send gear to this training battalion. I hope that is on the way to them, but no one seems to know the status of that. I really don't want to dig into what's going on. The silence from those involved speaks for itself. Have a good day gentlemen. Tell your friends you love them and spend time with them while you can. Life is too short. We have work to do. Yeah.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:07:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Part of it is there are numerous other supplies for ammunition for Ukraine. Poland. Romania. Bulgaria. England. Pakistan. Slovakia. Slovenia. France. Sweden. Norway. Denmark. One fairly long and well detailed youtube video by Perun covered this and basically came to the conclusion that Ukraine wasn't going to run out of artillery rounds anytime soon and that was probably released over last fall. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By 1969iggy: So even at dream capacity 11-12 day supply at top speed vs 3 day now... damn... we have to hope that our European allies are producing as well and that most days don't hit 8k. Part of it is there are numerous other supplies for ammunition for Ukraine. Poland. Romania. Bulgaria. England. Pakistan. Slovakia. Slovenia. France. Sweden. Norway. Denmark. One fairly long and well detailed youtube video by Perun covered this and basically came to the conclusion that Ukraine wasn't going to run out of artillery rounds anytime soon and that was probably released over last fall. This, plus it would be important to clarify what the article considered artillery rounds. Are they just counting 155mm rounds? Or are they counting everything NATO and Soviet era? I saw one report that was counting 57mm anti aircraft rounds as "artillery" in those counts. That really gives no indication of what heavy stuff is being used at any certain rate. The skewed numbers look great for alarmist news and views though. |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:09:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: I video chatted with Irish this morning. I told him his new mission is to fall in love with a hot nurse. Glad those two survived. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By Birddog15: Originally Posted By Easterner: So it's a rough morning. Irish and the Brit are in the hospital from shrapnel injuries. Both should be OK. Another guy from our group was KIA due to artillery. He was not an inexperienced soldier and was very squared away. So say a prayer for these guys out here, and to their families. There was also a recent fundraiser to send gear to this training battalion. I hope that is on the way to them, but no one seems to know the status of that. I really don't want to dig into what's going on. The silence from those involved speaks for itself. Have a good day gentlemen. Tell your friends you love them and spend time with them while you can. Life is too short. We have work to do. Слава Україні Well, shit. Sorry to hear about that. I hope Irish and Brit make full recoveries. I video chatted with Irish this morning. I told him his new mission is to fall in love with a hot nurse. Glad those two survived. Link to the Gofundme for prophylactics? |
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:10:24 AM EDT
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Well, damn. My account got banned, again, on Twitter. Have to make a new one again.
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:15:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2023 9:18:21 AM EDT
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