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Link Posted: 10/4/2023 11:33:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
~0:40 video.
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Sounded like a fair amount of artillery going on
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 11:37:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/4/2023 11:39:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
How low is the water table on the Southern AO?

Kind of interesting we havent seen any undermining if the water table isnt too high.
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What are they going to dig with that won't be spotted quickly ?
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 11:43:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
How low is the water table on the Southern AO?

Kind of interesting we havent seen any undermining if the water table isnt too high.
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Interesting question.

Would the fact that everything's been blasted to shit increase or decrease absorption?
There's certainly less being drawn up by plants in some areas.


Old but possibly useful for someone who enjoys this sort of thing.
https://www.fao.org/3/w6240e/w6240e19.htm

Link Posted: 10/4/2023 11:46:23 PM EDT
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🗣 Combat medic Anastasia Mutsey was wounded during the assault.

She was hit in the face by artillery shrapnel and suffered a concussion.

Speedy recovery warrior.🇺🇦💛

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Link Posted: 10/4/2023 11:50:12 PM EDT
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In light of the current collaboration between code pink and Lavrov's daughter, it was just a matter of time before we got our own Nationalist Bolsheviks.

Vlad called it a year ago, from 16:12 onwards.
The REAL meaning of the killing of Dugin's daughter
Link Posted: 10/4/2023 11:54:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
I just finished watching Volhynia on Amazon Prime. Holy crap, that was one of the most depressing, sickening, and hard to watch movies ever.

One of the biggest things I always rail against is when people pigeonhole others. Commies, Ukebros, Putin puffers, Nazis, etc. etc. When you do that and see the other person as only a member of a group you hate and despise, it's little wonder that the human race has a history that is steeped in blood. The closer the neighbors, the more atrocious the crimes. At least with the Germans in WW2 - not to downplay the atrocity - it was a mechanical death. With things like in this movie, Hutus/Tutsis, Jasenovac, etc. etc. are all personal. We're talking neighbors slaughtering neighbors and for what? Any time I've ever tried to call out people when they start employing extreme rhetoric they get all outraged by it - as if living in our society somehow makes them immune from the same excuses that allowed countless other genocides to be perpetrated; they're too self-righteous to be aware of what they espousing. All it takes is the right kind of spark and you're off to throw people out of helicopters (they're commies after all and not really human) - while the other side has no hesitation to implement the Gulag again to be rid of enemies of the state (those fascists/Nazis had it coming).

All these "little" genocides occurred under the radar. Germany took the brunt of the blame because everything pales in comparison, but MORE emphasis needs to be placed on events such as described in this movie. It's very disappointing that Ukraine has still not screened the movie (well, I guess now is not exactly the right time) because they're afraid of offending the sensibilities of the Ukrainian population. FUCK. THAT. Like Germany, ANYONE who has had a part in the atrocities needs to have their noses held to it. Burying it and pretending only one country ever did it is going to get us right back to that point.

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Agreed. "We all play the villain in someone else's story".

Absolutely everyone thinks they're the good guy, and their victims all had it coming.

Link Posted: 10/4/2023 11:54:24 PM EDT
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I am struggling to figure out what turret that is.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:08:10 AM EDT
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Looks like the Leopard 2. Did a quick google image and there’s 2 turrets commonly seen on them. A boxy one, and that one
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:12:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


You are right in spirit.  Unfortunately, this is not the "Russian" way.  Putin has set the Russians on a course of conquest that he can no longer control; at this point, Putin has no choice but to continue the war.  Any so-called "Peace" agreement would be temporary until the Russians can rearm/refit.  Russia has committed too much of their land power, residual strength, and economic power for Putin or any other leader to back down at this point.  Putin and those around him see this as an existential struggle for national survival, and Russia has already abandoned much of it's advantageous position in Central Asia, it's position vis/vis China, international standing, and it's world trade relationships, etc. to win in Ukraine.  Ukraine, for it's part, requires security; therefore, any since agreement the Russians would sign that they could market as a "victory" would leave Ukraine unacceptable vulnerable when (not "if) the Russians begin the next phase of the war.  The war will not end until the Russians are beaten so badly that there is no acceptable way to continue the war. Ukraine (and it's neighboring countries) understand this; the closest analogy I can come up with would be the French "Revanchist" policies regarding Alsace-Lorraine from 1871 through the First World War, in which France crippled it's position in Central Europe and ultimately sacrificed an entire generation of young men to regain them.
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Sobriety is cathartic, but it is painful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WjyIZ2YBKI


utter nonsense.

Ukraine is winning the fight, as I have repeatedly said. Russia is the much more powerful nation and still hasn't been able to take Kyiv after 20 months of war with every advantage.

Look at the USA vs Iraq in 2003. We had soldiers sleeping in Saddam's palaces in less time than Russia has in Ukraine and Zelenskyy is still free and in charge.

587 days into the 2 day Russian war

@sheltiepimp


@fadedsun

Your commitment is commendable. No one will ever question your resolve.

At some point, you are going to have to weigh the sacrifices and benefits that Ukraine is facing, and it is not a favorable balance.

When our friends, family, and our allies are in a situation that is unwinnable, we (should) give them the best, most honest, and most survivable advice based on our expertise.

This conflict needs to end, Ukraine has suffered enough.

Peace is the only prize.


You are right in spirit.  Unfortunately, this is not the "Russian" way.  Putin has set the Russians on a course of conquest that he can no longer control; at this point, Putin has no choice but to continue the war.  Any so-called "Peace" agreement would be temporary until the Russians can rearm/refit.  Russia has committed too much of their land power, residual strength, and economic power for Putin or any other leader to back down at this point.  Putin and those around him see this as an existential struggle for national survival, and Russia has already abandoned much of it's advantageous position in Central Asia, it's position vis/vis China, international standing, and it's world trade relationships, etc. to win in Ukraine.  Ukraine, for it's part, requires security; therefore, any since agreement the Russians would sign that they could market as a "victory" would leave Ukraine unacceptable vulnerable when (not "if) the Russians begin the next phase of the war.  The war will not end until the Russians are beaten so badly that there is no acceptable way to continue the war. Ukraine (and it's neighboring countries) understand this; the closest analogy I can come up with would be the French "Revanchist" policies regarding Alsace-Lorraine from 1871 through the First World War, in which France crippled it's position in Central Europe and ultimately sacrificed an entire generation of young men to regain them.

A complete Russian military collapse is just wishful thinking. It may happen, but expecting it  would be a mistake. I think many of us expected that a coup would depose Putin, but that hasn't happened either. Back in the spring there was an agreement that Ukraine will not win an attrition war with Russia for the simple reason that they have less manpower. Hence the need for maneuver warfare. However, those plans have not worked out too well over the summer. The reality on the battlefield is that Putin controls Crimea and Ukraine is not able to present a real threat to retake it without a significant ramp up in NATO support.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:13:28 AM EDT
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Looks like the Leopard 2. Did a quick google image and there's 2 turrets commonly seen on them. A boxy one, and that one
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That is a Leo2. What is on the M113 in the second video.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:15:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:


Agreed. "We all play the villain in someone else's story".

Absolutely everyone thinks they're the good guy, and their victims all had it coming.

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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
I just finished watching Volhynia on Amazon Prime. Holy crap, that was one of the most depressing, sickening, and hard to watch movies ever.

One of the biggest things I always rail against is when people pigeonhole others. Commies, Ukebros, Putin puffers, Nazis, etc. etc. When you do that and see the other person as only a member of a group you hate and despise, it's little wonder that the human race has a history that is steeped in blood. The closer the neighbors, the more atrocious the crimes. At least with the Germans in WW2 - not to downplay the atrocity - it was a mechanical death. With things like in this movie, Hutus/Tutsis, Jasenovac, etc. etc. are all personal. We're talking neighbors slaughtering neighbors and for what? Any time I've ever tried to call out people when they start employing extreme rhetoric they get all outraged by it - as if living in our society somehow makes them immune from the same excuses that allowed countless other genocides to be perpetrated; they're too self-righteous to be aware of what they espousing. All it takes is the right kind of spark and you're off to throw people out of helicopters (they're commies after all and not really human) - while the other side has no hesitation to implement the Gulag again to be rid of enemies of the state (those fascists/Nazis had it coming).

All these "little" genocides occurred under the radar. Germany took the brunt of the blame because everything pales in comparison, but MORE emphasis needs to be placed on events such as described in this movie. It's very disappointing that Ukraine has still not screened the movie (well, I guess now is not exactly the right time) because they're afraid of offending the sensibilities of the Ukrainian population. FUCK. THAT. Like Germany, ANYONE who has had a part in the atrocities needs to have their noses held to it. Burying it and pretending only one country ever did it is going to get us right back to that point.



Agreed. "We all play the villain in someone else's story".

Absolutely everyone thinks they're the good guy, and their victims all had it coming.




talk to North Korea about that.

For almost 70 years, they have stated in their propaganda films that WE are the villains, we invaded their country, we committed atrocities but they downplay all parts that THEY INVADED SOUTH KOREA, they have tried multiple times to kill south korea and the president yet here we are.

Pretty soon at the end of the day, you become the villains of your own story.

Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:17:15 AM EDT
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Looks like the Leopard 2. Did a quick google image and there's 2 turrets commonly seen on them. A boxy one, and that one
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The second video is a ypr765
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:18:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I repeatedly read this "unwinnable" jibberjabber, especially from some of our own conservative clowns. Can you explain what you mean? Unless you are a pure Russian troll posting Russian disinfo, what do you mean "unwinnable"? Are you one of the folks believing in some Russian reserve army showing up from Siberia and finishing off Ukraine (that the best RU divisions failed to achieve in 2022)?? Or are you simply saying that the pace of UA advance is too slow and too costly and thus they will run out of men, equipment, and resolve before Russia does? Just please dont start the "Russia hasn't even started to fight yet" bullshit.

Do you really believe that the US/NATO can dictate terms to Ukraine, get them to trade territory for some bullshit ceasefire and Russia promises to be good from now on? Do you believe that if all aid stops, Ukraine and Russia will both sit down at some summit, hash out their trivial differences, and agree to be nice neighbors?

These are all serious questions for you good sir. You are either good hearted but incredibly naive or a Russian propagandist.
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:


@fadedsun

Your commitment is commendable. No one will ever question your resolve.

At some point, you are going to have to weigh the sacrifices and benefits that Ukraine is facing, and it is not a favorable balance.

When our friends, family, and our allies are in a situation that is unwinnable, we (should) give them the best, most honest, and most survivable advice based on our expertise.

This conflict needs to end, Ukraine has suffered enough.

Peace is the only prize.

I repeatedly read this "unwinnable" jibberjabber, especially from some of our own conservative clowns. Can you explain what you mean? Unless you are a pure Russian troll posting Russian disinfo, what do you mean "unwinnable"? Are you one of the folks believing in some Russian reserve army showing up from Siberia and finishing off Ukraine (that the best RU divisions failed to achieve in 2022)?? Or are you simply saying that the pace of UA advance is too slow and too costly and thus they will run out of men, equipment, and resolve before Russia does? Just please dont start the "Russia hasn't even started to fight yet" bullshit.

Do you really believe that the US/NATO can dictate terms to Ukraine, get them to trade territory for some bullshit ceasefire and Russia promises to be good from now on? Do you believe that if all aid stops, Ukraine and Russia will both sit down at some summit, hash out their trivial differences, and agree to be nice neighbors?

These are all serious questions for you good sir. You are either good hearted but incredibly naive or a Russian propagandist.

All of that is very possible. Ukraine cannot afford to throw waves of soldiers at Russian fortifications. Rains are about to start soon, then winter. The front lines are going to freeze and the political winds are not favorable.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:23:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

There is a floor for their economy that keeps "ruins" off the table, that is their considerable oil & gas production. Even with sanctions, that energy will remain part of the global market. Unless Ukraine gets some long-range strike capability and wrecks key nodes in the oil & gas production. That would fundamentally alter the balance.

If Russia is more successful this winter in hitting Ukraine's energy systems, I would look for that long-range strike capability to materialize. This war still can get much uglier than it's been so far.
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It won't be just a military loss. Their demographics were already one of the worst. Now they have much less interest worldwide for their petroleum products and military arms sales. And they have lost hundreds of thousands casualties and millions who fled. And Ukraine is rightfully insisting on reparations. The ruble is 1/50th the value it was two years ago. And it will continue to crumble. Another year of this attrition and the Russian economy will be in ruins.

There is a floor for their economy that keeps "ruins" off the table, that is their considerable oil & gas production. Even with sanctions, that energy will remain part of the global market. Unless Ukraine gets some long-range strike capability and wrecks key nodes in the oil & gas production. That would fundamentally alter the balance.

If Russia is more successful this winter in hitting Ukraine's energy systems, I would look for that long-range strike capability to materialize. This war still can get much uglier than it's been so far.

It is not only oil & gas but also nuclear energy. Russia owns the majority of the world wide Uranium enrichment business, which goes alongside with them being a dominant nuclear power. And Ukraine will not be able to hit that side of their economy for obvious reasons.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:24:56 AM EDT
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What are they going to dig with that won't be spotted quickly ?
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There are ways.  Painfully tedious.. but possible.  
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:26:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:


Agreed. "We all play the villain in someone else's story".

Absolutely everyone thinks they're the good guy, and their victims all had it coming.

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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By Zhukov:
I just finished watching Volhynia on Amazon Prime. Holy crap, that was one of the most depressing, sickening, and hard to watch movies ever.

One of the biggest things I always rail against is when people pigeonhole others. Commies, Ukebros, Putin puffers, Nazis, etc. etc. When you do that and see the other person as only a member of a group you hate and despise, it's little wonder that the human race has a history that is steeped in blood. The closer the neighbors, the more atrocious the crimes. At least with the Germans in WW2 - not to downplay the atrocity - it was a mechanical death. With things like in this movie, Hutus/Tutsis, Jasenovac, etc. etc. are all personal. We're talking neighbors slaughtering neighbors and for what? Any time I've ever tried to call out people when they start employing extreme rhetoric they get all outraged by it - as if living in our society somehow makes them immune from the same excuses that allowed countless other genocides to be perpetrated; they're too self-righteous to be aware of what they espousing. All it takes is the right kind of spark and you're off to throw people out of helicopters (they're commies after all and not really human) - while the other side has no hesitation to implement the Gulag again to be rid of enemies of the state (those fascists/Nazis had it coming).

All these "little" genocides occurred under the radar. Germany took the brunt of the blame because everything pales in comparison, but MORE emphasis needs to be placed on events such as described in this movie. It's very disappointing that Ukraine has still not screened the movie (well, I guess now is not exactly the right time) because they're afraid of offending the sensibilities of the Ukrainian population. FUCK. THAT. Like Germany, ANYONE who has had a part in the atrocities needs to have their noses held to it. Burying it and pretending only one country ever did it is going to get us right back to that point.



Agreed. "We all play the villain in someone else's story".

Absolutely everyone thinks they're the good guy, and their victims all had it coming.

Pay attention to what a lot of the anti-ukraine crowd says.  Open support for what the Russians are doing and the desire to 'burn it all down.'  That is not thinking one is the good guy.  That is embracing being the villain and they know it.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:50:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Pay attention to what a lot of the anti-ukraine crowd says.  Open support for what the Russians are doing and the desire to 'burn it all down.'  That is not thinking one is the good guy.  That is embracing being the villain and they know it.
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Disagree, they're mad that their country changed, or more specifically, was changed by the villains.

They're not even "taking their ball and going home", they're kicking the ball into the neighbors yard with the pitbull in it because the game changed to something they don't like and they feel powerless to change it.



Ukraine thread




Link Posted: 10/5/2023 12:53:46 AM EDT
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Russians shelling Kherson "like they're mad".
Looks like about three hours worth so far.

https://t.me/hueviyherson/46860
https://t.me/znua_live/115660
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Reportedly 24/29
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FILE:  Russia Will Never Attack a NATO Country Because Russia is Totally Afraid of NATO Everyone Knows That!

EXHIBIT:  87+7




Video with English subtitles
The head of the Russian occupation administration of Zaporizhia, Yevgeny Balitsky


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Pre-dupe intercepted
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Good to see more commercial firms investing in operations in Ukraine. Ukraine needs the increased industry to become more self sufficient. Long road ahead.




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Link Posted: 10/5/2023 2:27:50 AM EDT
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Alex Alexidze, an InformNapalm volunteer from Sakartvelo, created and actively updates an interesting map of incidents (explosions, arsons, etc.) on the territory of the Russian Federation.

The map is hosted on the GoogleMaps platform and has a number of settings.

For example, these days you could see information on the network that a SBU drone hit the Russian radar "Kasta"* in the Kursk region of the Russian Federation. But a more detailed location was not indicated. So, the map has these data linked to the area. This map can become an auxiliary tool for analysts and anyone interested in the topic of demilitarization of the Russian Federation.

*In the context of the news about the "Kasta" radar, I remembered the funny fact that a year before the full-scale invasion, the Russians hid one of their 51U6 "Kasta-2E1" radars from the reconnaissance UAV under a cloth in the colors of the Ukrainian flag in the occupied territory of Luhansk region, 30 km from the contact line.


https://t.me/informnapalm/19082

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"At one o'clock in the morning, one of the drones dropped two explosive devices on the central power substation of the city of Sudzha, 12 kilometers from the border with Ukraine. 14 settlements were left without electricity," Russian media claim.

Also, according to their information, the second drone dropped two explosive devices on the power substation of the village of Glushkovo. As a result, 53 settlements were left without electricity.


https://www.ostro.org/news/u-kurskij-oblasti-67-naselenyh-punktiv-zalyshylysya-bez-elektryky-vnaslidok-nichnoyi-ataky-i439688

https://t.me/shot_shot/57785

Kursk governor, not Arnold.
https://t.me/gubernator_46/4016


Link Posted: 10/5/2023 3:12:20 AM EDT
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Oh damn.

This guy needed to use the first responder "rule of thumb".



Link Posted: 10/5/2023 3:34:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:


"At one o'clock in the morning, one of the drones dropped two explosive devices on the central power substation of the city of Sudzha, 12 kilometers from the border with Ukraine. 14 settlements were left without electricity," Russian media claim.

Also, according to their information, the second drone dropped two explosive devices on the power substation of the village of Glushkovo. As a result, 53 settlements were left without electricity.


https://www.ostro.org/news/u-kurskij-oblasti-67-naselenyh-punktiv-zalyshylysya-bez-elektryky-vnaslidok-nichnoyi-ataky-i439688

https://t.me/shot_shot/57785

Kursk governor, not Arnold.
https://t.me/gubernator_46/4016


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Originally Posted By RockNwood:




"At one o'clock in the morning, one of the drones dropped two explosive devices on the central power substation of the city of Sudzha, 12 kilometers from the border with Ukraine. 14 settlements were left without electricity," Russian media claim.

Also, according to their information, the second drone dropped two explosive devices on the power substation of the village of Glushkovo. As a result, 53 settlements were left without electricity.


https://www.ostro.org/news/u-kurskij-oblasti-67-naselenyh-punktiv-zalyshylysya-bez-elektryky-vnaslidok-nichnoyi-ataky-i439688

https://t.me/shot_shot/57785

Kursk governor, not Arnold.
https://t.me/gubernator_46/4016



That is very efficient strike. I hope we see lots more!!

Link Posted: 10/5/2023 3:38:33 AM EDT
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About Max Blumenthal


There are layers of hypocrisy here that reveal so much about the character of grifters who shill for autocracies despite having all the benefits of coming from democracies.

The Grayzone, which Max edits and Ben was once part of, is a far left American site that supports russian imperialism and every repressive non-western regime. It spreads conspiracy theories to deny their atrocities, as well as all kinds of genocidal hate. Their key contributors have repeatedly referred to the people of the Baltic countries as non-humans who deserve invasion next.

Their organisation is being torn apart because Max and Ben took opposite extremes of a wedge issue, which is hilarious because it was their job to tear apart society by pushing people to those extremes. How the turn tables. Max embraced covid conspiracy theories more popular among pro-russian extremists while Ben took the official Chinese line that China does a great job fighting covid.

So this is basically like a modern Sino-Soviet split in miniature.

The Grayzone has been very keen to present itself as pro-freedom of speech. Of course, not for non-westerners living under oppressive regimes, but for its own wealthy, privileged grifters who want to continue operating from within the comforts of the democratic world it seeks to overthrow. Yet Max is in such a rage that he didn’t think twice about revealing the Grayzone has incredibly strict censorship rules against its own staff in an attempt to prevent them getting high on their own supply of polarising discourse.

The most tone deaf part of all this though is the naked greed of these comrades.

They accuse NAFO activists of being secretly financed - unable to get their head around the fact that many millions of people impacted by russian imperialism do have agency and do have voices - yet these comrades are squabbling over decent sums of money being made in just one small part of their grifting-for-autocracy operation then have the audacity to whine about it in front of the world and chase each other around the world over it. Of course, they also use the American legal system where they can pay huge bills.

Imagine being on that bus in Nicaragua when a bunch of already very wealthy westerners start using it for a furious argument about how to split up a pile of money that is many, many times the average local salary.

They are almost a cartoon caricature of out of touch Champaign socialists with every worst possible trait.

Max doesn’t actually have much of a case here. His smoking gun is screenshots of a letter from his own lawyer, which any lawyer can tell you does not mean much. Ben is now in China. Yet despite the Grayzone’s love of China’s regime, I think Max is unlikely to travel to China and try to either cause a scene like this there in public or make use of the Chinese legal system.

The main lesson of all this:

Kremlin propagandists try to build up their mythology and try to seem intimidating. But they are just people, sad ones in their case. Russia is not luring the brightest and best people to shill for it. It’s stuck with people like Max who seriously thought this meltdown highlighting so many of their hypocrisies was a good idea.
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https://news.liga.net/en/politics/news/k-kontsu-2023-goda-rossiya-usilit-yadernye-ugrozy-zelenskiy-i-gur

Found this passage “interesting”
On September 6, Chief of the General Staff of the Polish Armed Forces Rajmund Andrzejczak said that Vladimir Putin's "gangster" nuclear threats require a more aggressive response from NATO, including flying more nuclear-armed aircraft.


Link Posted: 10/5/2023 4:23:51 AM EDT
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Another bilateral security agreement. Zelensky is a fireball meeting with heads of states, diplomats and industries.




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Link Posted: 10/5/2023 6:21:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1969iggy:
Totally unrelated, but if anyone is near Pittsburgh and wants a ticket to the Ravens/Steelers game shoot me a PM.  Only rule is no hitting on my wife or daughter...
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Pics of wife and daughter?
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 6:34:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/5/2023 6:35:13 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:09:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:


Agreed. "We all play the villain in someone else's story".

Absolutely everyone thinks they're the good guy, and their victims all had it coming.

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The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.

William Munny: We all have it coming, Kid.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:31:07 AM EDT
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Ukraine troops cheer on Leopard tank as it blasts Russian trenches near Robotyne
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:31:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By strykr:

All of that is very possible. Ukraine cannot afford to throw waves of soldiers at Russian fortifications. Rains are about to start soon, then winter. The front lines are going to freeze and the political winds are not favorable.
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All true. And after Wake Island was captured by Japan, WWII looked "unwinnable" too.

Despite the "unwinnable" characterization, I will argue that Ukraine has already won. They have survived an all-out invasion by a much bigger and stronger Russia. They have retaken territory. They have now gone on the offensive. Cowards, defeatists, and pacifists (not referring to you) like to call slow, hard victories as "unwinnable". Fuck them!
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:31:30 AM EDT
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04 Oct: OPEN DOORS. Ukrainians Conduct a LANDING OPERATION IN CRIMEA | War in Ukraine Explained
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:38:39 AM EDT
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For understanding: five glide bombs were dropped on Berislav today

Only one of them ended up in the hospital. The rest are in different parts of the city, including residential areas.

The video distributed by Katsap pus shows air bombs landing on high-rise buildings.

Katsapnya, you are not people, you are just creatures. You can’t even imagine how much they hate and despise you.

https://t.me/uniannet/113327







Video
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:40:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By centex_SR-15:
In light of the current collaboration between code pink and Lavrov's daughter, it was just a matter of time before we got our own Nationalist Bolsheviks.

Vlad called it a year ago, from 16:12 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Zk7K9Un2U
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Wow, thanks for (re)posting that. I didn't see it before but you're right, that concluding section is a critical point. It also goes to what Zhukov said just a bit above.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:48:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

All true. And after Wake Island was captured by Japan, WWII looked "unwinnable" too.

Despite the "unwinnable" characterization, I will argue that Ukraine has already won. They have survived an all-out invasion by a much bigger and stronger Russia. They have retaken territory. They have now gone on the offensive. Cowards, defeatists, and pacifists (not referring to you) like to call slow, hard victories as "unwinnable". Fuck them!
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The Ukraine war is unwinnable.  By Russia.  Sure, they can kill every last Ukrainian, but short of that they will never have peace on that land.
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:53:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ike838:


That is only 1100 cases.
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Thats like a typical black-Friday, cyber Monday sale haul...
Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:54:12 AM EDT
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If you build it, they will come.

Link Posted: 10/5/2023 8:56:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7empest:



Guess the  Code Pinkers in GD got to own their pink hats now.
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One day in the near future, people will come to arfcom to demand gun laws and banning AR15's. I said it!
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