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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:29:29 AM EST
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:31:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: People cheering over McCarthy's ouster did not understand, and still don't. The party has an obligation to govern. Failing to do that, which they are now, is going to result in Dem victories in November. Calling people 'RINO' for passing bills the fringe doesn't want is dumb and counterproductive. Governing matters. end off-topic Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: People cheering over McCarthy's ouster did not understand, and still don't. The party has an obligation to govern. Failing to do that, which they are now, is going to result in Dem victories in November. Calling people 'RINO' for passing bills the fringe doesn't want is dumb and counterproductive. Governing matters. end off-topic It’s on us too. We (some of us) elected poo-flinging chimps like MTG. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:33:53 AM EST
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:36:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys:
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:44:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Yes. HARM especially. Munitions compatibility with western PGMs. AMRAAM if they get the later variants. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Toybasher: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Meant to post yesterday but had family drama again to deal with offline https://www.ukrinform.net/amp/rubric-ato/3811078-training-of-f16-maintenance-personnel-continues-in-ukraine-defense-ministry.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2063_jpeg-3089295.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_2062_jpeg-3089296.JPG Yes. HARM especially. Munitions compatibility with western PGMs. AMRAAM if they get the later variants. Unless they come equipped with the HTS pod they will still be limited to using the missile seeker for detection/guidance and this severely limits the targeting modes available 
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:45:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood:  I self identify as retarded for being on the R train. I hold out a faint glimmer of hope a Reagan-like leader will emerge. But all my experience and observations say not bloody likely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By K0UA: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Paul Ryan started the destruction of the party by disavowing the party candidate and then working vigorously against him. Mitch fueled it with funding of the likes of Dem aligned Murkowski as a spoiler to the more popular R candidate. Trump would have been much better for the party to go all in support of a younger candidate this time around. But Gaetz has delivered the final rupture with his tantrum to use the Dem minority and his seven cohorts to remove an R speaker to drive a minority position. The Republicans have torn their party to shreds. Many other factors at play but too much me me me individual maneuvering and too little party unity. The R's and I am one. Are the dumbest "leaders" on the planet. I self identify as retarded for being on the R train. I hold out a faint glimmer of hope a Reagan-like leader will emerge. But all my experience and observations say not bloody likely. In the longish run I have hope. The Republican party needs defeat to TRULY reexamine. Whether they actually will do so is the question. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:46:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: How many tanks are left in Russia? https://mil.in.ua/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/121-1.jpg How many tanks are left in Russia? A question that comes up very often in discussions, and to which it is simply impossible to find an exact answer - probably even Shoigu and Gerasimov do not know it. However, attempts to count tanks do not stop. Today we will analyze one of them - the report of the French OSINT cell ARI, published on August 31, 2023. The French tried to figure out how many tanks the Russians have at storage bases. It must be said that the numbers here are very "jumping" - for example, the International Institute for Strategic Studies estimated this number in 2022 at as many as 17.5 thousand tanks, including 200 T-90, 3 thousand T-80, 7 thousand T- 72, 2 thousand T-64, 2.5 thousand T-62 and 2.8 thousand T-55. However, these calculations are very inaccurate, because they are based on an estimate of the number of tanks produced during the USSR. Estimates from last year's Military Balance yearbook are much more modest: approximately 2,000 tanks in service and up to 5,000 in storage. However, its authors take into account models from the T-62 and higher - but in reality, the grasshoppers not only have hundreds of T-54/55 in their warehouses, but are already using them at the front! It is interesting that in 2022, Military Balance wrote about as many as 13.7 thousand Russian tanks, but even in this case it did not count the T-54/55. In their calculations, ARI specialists used satellite images taken between April and September 2021. They were supplemented with information from social networks. Calculations were made for ten central storage bases out of 22 available in the Russian Federation - they are the ones where, according to estimates, 95% of tanks are concentrated. So, what did you manage to calculate? 5,538 tanks, of which 4,347 are identified by type. It is clear that we are talking about tanks that are stored under the open sky. There are also canopies and boxes at the researched bases, the capacity of which is estimated at 1,950 cars. However, part of these premises must be allocated for repairs, and part is probably occupied not by tanks, but by other machines. Taking into account the above, the number of tanks in storage can be estimated at a maximum of 7,000, but probably around 6,000. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiuktZpN1rll7zCLkUSjVGfRQhwm0uXji6nXW059S0EjHxGwY_jSJnglxg2_rblHyZ1Pz6QieDrPE60499wmTbrIMWdnUFTjrUaIZ9GniaDE6HxzkPEh7TqxUYFVt6GWXwFBxbgEYON3fIRCBgbQCkykw3p6aAXJBSUT7v25VE49Ta-vhl2A5YO3PO6mtg/w640-h376/122.jpg What types have been identified? These are 750 T-80 tanks (mainly BV and UD versions), 1,945 T-72 (mostly non-modernized T-72B, as well as T-72A and T-72), 1,239 T-62 (including many T -62M) and 413 T-54/55. Three quarters of them are tanks produced before 1980. The situation with the T-64 is a bit unclear - the French write that they did not count them, because due to a lack of spare parts, these tanks will not be able to be returned to service. There are no T-90s either - although there should be some amount of them at the storage bases, after all. Maybe they were counted together with the T-72? The breakdown of types of tanks by district is also interesting. In the Western Military District, these are T-80U/UE-1, T-80BV, T-80UD and T-72. In Central - older T-72 and remnants of T-64. In the East - some T-80, the bulk of T-62, as well as T-54/55. Attention was also drawn to the tank repair capabilities of the Russian Federation. Currently, 10 large military equipment repair factories are operating across the country, two of which are deployed from repair bases. Three of them repair tanks. To this should be added "Omsktransmash", which used to manufacture T-80 tanks, and now repairs them and modernizes them to the level of T-80BVM. The pace of work, according to ARI , is significantly lower than Russian propaganda says. For example, the 103rd Armored Tank Repair Plant in Transbaikalia is able to restore an average of 8 T-62 tanks every month: at the beginning of March 2023, the army handed over about 40 such tanks, the repair of which began in October 2022. At the same time, Russian publications talk about the monthly repair of 22-23 tanks here. The 61st armored personnel carrier in St. Leninburg repairs 30-60 tanks a year. The 163rd armored personnel carrier (Krasnodar Territory), implementing previously concluded contracts, repaired 24 T-72 tanks and 100 BMP-2 tanks in one year (apparently 2021?). The situation at Omsktransmash is illustrated by satellite photos: in November 2022, there were about 100 tanks awaiting repair; in May 2023, the queue almost doubled. The recovery time of one tank raised from the storage base is very dependent on its preservation. For cars in worse condition, it reaches three to four months. Often, for recovery, you have to resort to cannibalizing other machines. "Uralvagonzavod" in 2011-2021 modernized about 1,240 T-72B tanks to the T-72B3M standard (and derivatives). However, in 2021, the pace of modernization has significantly decreased - ARI considers this to be a consequence of the depletion of T-72B tanks that are subject to renewal. In the peak period, up to 300 tanks were modernized per year, then this number decreased to 120, and now it has dropped to zero. Instead, "Uralvagonzavod" focused on the production of T-90M, and to a large extent not new, but modernized from previous modifications of T-90. According to ARI estimates, the Russian industry is able to produce about 390 tanks a year, including new, modernized and restored from storage bases. Russian sources call the numbers 700-800 tanks in 2022 and even 1,500 in 2023. At the same time, due to the sanctions, the quality of products is falling: those tanks that return to service must be equipped with thermal imagers, the parameters of which are close to those of the Cold War era devices. At the time of the start of the full-scale aggression against Ukraine, the Russians had 2,987 tanks in service. According to data from Oryx, losses as of the beginning of 2024 amount to 2,619 tanks - 1,725 destroyed, 145 damaged, 205 abandoned and 544 lost. In fact, this number is even higher, because not all losses fall on the oryx. In this situation, according to ARI experts, the only option for the development of events in 2024 for the Russian Federation is only prolonged stagnation at the front. This will make it possible to form a powerful tank fist - taking into account the prospects of increasing the annual output of T-90M at Uralvagonzavod to 250-300 machines and plans to resume production of T-80 at Omsktransmash. Other scenarios – the preservation of the current nature of hostilities or a successful Ukrainian offensive – will lead to further "shredding" of the aggressor's tank fleet. https://mil.in.ua/uk/blogs/skilky-tankiv-zalyshylos-u-rosiyi/#google_vignette The idea that Russia won't up their game when it comes to repair/replacement/new construction is naive. They have already placed their economy on a war footing, something the west has not embraced yet. We need to get motivated now. We are, at a minimum, two years behind the curve. If the western leaders had listened to the Kremlin's rhetoric and took the "little green men" seriously almost a decade ago, we could have demolished Russia's notion that they could conquer Ukraine in a sleepwalk. Instead, we are watching these animals butcher, rape and plunder their neighbors and we trickle support like it's blood donation, just enough to keep the patient alive, not enough to make them healthy. The gloves need to come off. We should start with Russia's far-flung proxies first. A MOAB or two on African mercenaries seems apropos. Once their longest tenacles have been severed, Syrian naval bases seem to be the next area of attention. Putin thinks he can do or say anything he likes, as if he has any sort of military capacity outside of his nuclear threat. He lacks everywhere, until he pushes the button. He should know, without any doubt, that once he goes nuclear, he, his family, his nation is doomed. Every western nation should deport every single Russian living abroad. We should do it now. No exceptions, no excuses, you are going back to Russia and your assets are forfeit. You home will be sold to finance the war in Ukraine. Cars and personal effects as well. Why are we harboring these expats? Do we honestly thing they are loyal to us? Even if some are, why would we give them the benefit of the doubt? Our embassy in Moscow (and any others in Russia) need to be abandoned and set on fire when we leave. I know intelligence is collected at these venues, but the truth has already been revealed and we are at war whether anybody else recognizes it or not. V. Putin should drink the funny tasting tea and the world will be a better place once he does. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:48:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Does NATO dare fly AWACS over Ukraine as a part of "training missions"? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Originally Posted By Circuits: Very substantial advantage over the Mig-29 and Su-27 that Ukraine currently uses (older, Soviet-era models), and still a big advantage over modernized Mig-29 and Su-27s used by Russia. On par with, or slightly behind, some of the newer Russian fighter jets like the Su-35, in terms of radar and missile engagement ranges. Most important capability provided by updated the F-16s will be their datalinks, which allow them to receive targeting data from other networked sources, like AWACS or ground stations, and the ability to utilize just about every advanced western weapon system with access to all features. Does NATO dare fly AWACS over Ukraine as a part of "training missions"? No. I’ve watched a lot of flight tracker and E-3s always operate over Romanian territory. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:52:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Body armor helps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Originally Posted By johnh57: Originally Posted By Capta: IMO frag effect on people is hard to judge visually from a drone spotter. It’s probably better to look at burst distance and any cover to judge whether they likely collected frag. The video that brought that home to me was one of K2 Battalion in Bakhmut. IIRC it was “Battle of T-shape”. They dropped arty and mortars on a Russian assault unit of 20-30 people and from the drone spotter it looked pretty questionable whether they wounded more than 2-3 Russians. Then they filmed ground level with clean-up infantry which made it obvious the Russians were just butchered. Body parts here and there, dudes torn in half, bloody dressings everywhere. Humans are the squishiest thing on the battlefield. Seems odd though that the drone dropped grenades don't do more damage to the squishies. This latest one took like 5 grenades to finally dead the guy. Body armor helps. The front/back plate probably prevents more instakills, but Russian problems with first aid, CASEVAC and medical care later might nullify that benefit due to hits elsewhere causing slightly slower death. This war really needs a high-coverage soft armor suit. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:04:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jaehaerys]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: The idea that Russia won't up their game when it comes to repair/replacement/new construction is naive. They have already placed their economy on a war footing, something the west has not embraced yet. This is something I don't think enough people have realized. Russia may have gotten embarrassed in 2022, but they have since regrouped and show no signs of giving up their imperial conquest. As has been mentioned ad infinitum, their attempts at negotiations have rightfully been pegged as not being genuine, and it's clear that their goal is still Ukrainian and Western capitulation. Since Russia has pretty much switched to a war footing economy, the longer this conflict goes on, the stronger the Russian defense industry gets, and the larger its Army gets. I'd also argue that if Russia comes away with anything resembling a victory in Ukraine, they'll continue to build their defense industry and Army as fast as they can. At this point, they're committed to what they view as being a civilizational level struggle against the west. Meanwhile, we're barely two years into the conflict, and the west is talking about "war fatigue" in a conflict it isn't even actively participating in... Europe does have some professional militaries and high tech defense industries, but their militaries are small, and they lack strategic depth. A number of people in the European defense community have said that their militaries don't have enough munitions to last even a week of high intensity conflict. There are signs that that's changing (e.g., Rheinmetall and BAE increasing munitions production), but it's not happening at a fast enough pace. It's one of the reasons why I laugh at the talking point that Russia isn't a threat to Europe because Europe's GDP dwarfs Russia's. It's also why I'm somewhat dubious of the idea that Poland alone could handle the Russian threat. Europe needs to get its shit together, given that US security "guarantees" to Europe are no longer looking like they are that in actuality... |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:18:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: Easterner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The front/back plate probably prevents more instakills, but Russian problems with first aid, CASEVAC and medical care later might nullify that benefit due to hits elsewhere causing slightly slower death. This war really needs a high-coverage soft armor suit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Originally Posted By johnh57: Originally Posted By Capta: IMO frag effect on people is hard to judge visually from a drone spotter. It’s probably better to look at burst distance and any cover to judge whether they likely collected frag. The video that brought that home to me was one of K2 Battalion in Bakhmut. IIRC it was “Battle of T-shape”. They dropped arty and mortars on a Russian assault unit of 20-30 people and from the drone spotter it looked pretty questionable whether they wounded more than 2-3 Russians. Then they filmed ground level with clean-up infantry which made it obvious the Russians were just butchered. Body parts here and there, dudes torn in half, bloody dressings everywhere. Humans are the squishiest thing on the battlefield. Seems odd though that the drone dropped grenades don't do more damage to the squishies. This latest one took like 5 grenades to finally dead the guy. Body armor helps. The front/back plate probably prevents more instakills, but Russian problems with first aid, CASEVAC and medical care later might nullify that benefit due to hits elsewhere causing slightly slower death. This war really needs a high-coverage soft armor suit. This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as what's available. Soft ballistic panels are available for just about anywhere you want them. I only have the front crotch, rear lumbar, and the wrap around cumberbund. Supposedly will stop 9mm (level 1). Don't want to test it out. It really isn't much of a big addition in weight like hard plates are. These easily attach to the Velcro that holds the main plate opening shut. There are also shoulder pads, upper arms, neck, and upper legs. I have seen inserts that fit in elbows and knees.  Attached File Attached File Attached FileExample:  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:24:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryA number of people in the European defense community have said that their militaries don't have enough munitions to last even a week of high intensity conflict. There are signs that that's changing (e.g., Rheinmetall and BAE increasing munitions production), but it's not happening at a fast enough pace. It's one of the reasons why I laugh at the talking point that Russia isn't a threat to Europe because Europe's GDP dwarfs Russia's. The Travels of Marco Polo reports that upon finding the caliph's great stores of treasure which could have been spent on the defense of his realm, Hulagu Khan locked him in his treasure room without food or water, telling him "eat of thy treasure as much as thou wilt, since thou art so fond of it." |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:35:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The front/back plate probably prevents more instakills, but Russian problems with first aid, CASEVAC and medical care later might nullify that benefit due to hits elsewhere causing slightly slower death. This war really needs a high-coverage soft armor suit. The average kevlar vest will not stop a knife attack, and I doubt it will stop most fragmentation. There is probably improvement since I was around it, but in my experience I would rather have something chain mail like instead. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:37:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: This is something I don't think enough people have realized. Russia may have gotten embarrassed in 2022, but they have since regrouped and show no signs of giving up their imperial conquest. As has been mentioned ad infinitum, their attempts at negotiations have rightfully been pegged as not being genuine, and it's clear that their goal is still Ukrainian and Western capitulation. Since Russia has pretty much switched to a war footing economy, the longer this conflict goes on, the stronger the Russian defense industry gets, and the larger its Army gets. I'd also argue that if Russia comes away with anything resembling a victory in Ukraine, they'll continue to build their defense industry and Army as fast as they can. At this point, they're committed to what they view as being a civilizational level struggle against the west. Meanwhile, we're barely two years into the conflict, and the west is talking about "war fatigue" in a conflict it isn't even actively participating in... Europe does have some professional militaries and high tech defense industries, but their militaries are small, and they lack strategic depth. A number of people in the European defense community have said that their militaries don't have enough munitions to last even a week of high intensity conflict. There are signs that that's changing (e.g., Rheinmetall and BAE increasing munitions production), but it's not happening at a fast enough pace. It's one of the reasons why I laugh at the talking point that Russia isn't a threat to Europe because Europe's GDP dwarfs Russia's. It's also why I'm somewhat dubious of the idea that Poland alone could handle the Russian threat. Europe needs to get its shit together, given that US security "guarantees" to Europe are no longer looking like they are that in actuality... Russia doesn't have a big enough economy overall to support a full on war economy footing. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:39:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: The average kevlar vest will not stop a knife attack, and I doubt it will stop most fragmentation. There is probably improvement since I was around it, but in my experience I would rather have something chain mail like instead. The stab-resistant armor worn by U.K. police, for instance, incorporates soft ballistics material, and steel mesh, like used in shark suits or butcher's gloves. Available up to ballistic IIIA and stab level 2 (whatever the stab levels are?). Probably be too heavy for a full body suit, at least for infantry. https://www.safeguardclothing.com/collections/stab-vest |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:40:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
Russia doesn't have a big enough economy overall to support a full on war economy footing. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:41:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: People cheering over McCarthy's ouster did not understand, and still don't. The party has an obligation to govern. Failing to do that, which they are now, is going to result in Dem victories in November. Calling people 'RINO' for passing bills the fringe doesn't want is dumb and counterproductive. Governing matters. end off-topic Truth. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:45:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as what's available. Soft ballistic panels are available for just about anywhere you want them. I only have the front crotch, rear lumbar, and the wrap around cumberbund. Supposedly will stop 9mm (level 1). Don't want to test it out. It really isn't much of a big addition in weight like hard plates are. These easily attach to the Velcro that holds the main plate opening shut. There are also shoulder pads, upper arms, neck, and upper legs. I have seen inserts that fit in elbows and knees. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20240111_190836_2_jpg-3090100.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20240111_192212_2_jpg-3090125.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20240111_190924_2_jpg-3090101.JPG Example: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/bronezhilet-warmor-4-klasc-zashchity-ves-3090148.JPG Seems like for the threats over there, a full wrap vest like IOTV that provides upper torso/side frag protection, would be a no-brainer |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:47:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: The average kevlar vest will not stop a knife attack, and I doubt it will stop most fragmentation. There is probably improvement since I was around it, but in my experience I would rather have something chain mail like instead. It's actually the opposite. Aramid armor stops frag pretty easily compared to stabbing attacks |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:48:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: theskuh]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: Seems like for the threats over there, a full wrap vest like IOTV that provides upper torso/side frag protection, would be a no-brainer They will end up with something like armadillo armor or a cape. Kneel into some sort of a ball when the drones are overhead. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:49:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: You don't have to, you can fly various ISR aircraft to give the Ukrainians warning about where Russian aircraft are without going over Ukrainian territory, depending on the platforms being used to give the info over a datalink. https://fullfatthings-keyaero.b-cdn.net/sites/keyaero/files/styles/jumbo/public/woodwing/2022-06/107894.jpeg?itok=q7RcUc7C https://fullfatthings-keyaero.b-cdn.net/sites/keyaero/files/styles/jumbo/public/woodwing/2022-06/107904.jpeg?itok=G1gBXubX Also, not including the various help provided by satellite surveillance. https://fullfatthings-keyaero.b-cdn.net/sites/keyaero/files/styles/jumbo/public/woodwing/2022-06/107907.jpeg?itok=bHq-ww-k You can't hide from SAR, and computing power has become orders of magnitude scarier than what most people think of, JSTARS during GWI. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:50:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: The stab-resistant armor worn by U.K. police, for instance, incorporates soft ballistics material, and steel mesh, like used in shark suits or butcher's gloves. Available up to ballistic IIIA and stab level 2 (whatever the stab levels are?). Probably be too heavy for a full body suit, at least for infantry. https://www.safeguardclothing.com/collections/stab-vest That steel mesh is why I said chain mail. 
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:52:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: They only have to be big enough to beat Ukraine. And they are. Western support stops, Ukraine loses. Same as two years ago. I don't disagree. If everyone in europe wasn't feeding sanctioned goods through russian puppets, the hurt would be much greater. Alas, greed trumps over morals more than not. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:53:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: It's actually the opposite. Aramid armor stops frag pretty easily compared to stabbing attacks Thanks for that. I just figured frag was just nasty jagged knives flying through the air. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 12:54:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: 2024 will be an intense year, even worldwide, Taiwan has its election too but I think multiple nations are also holding their elections in 2024. Hopefully my pessimistic nature is wrong and it’s not the shitshow I’m expecting and people unfuck themselves but I guess we’ll see soon enough how this unfolds. <This. I love the democratic process, but until we fully grasp the weakness that it encompasses, we will never act in a way that defends our liberties in a time that is even close to being effective in the here and now. We are at war. It doesn't matter if people disagree, the proof is evident on the world stage. Individual liberty is more important than any political construct. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:03:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: Seems like for the threats over there, a full wrap vest like IOTV that provides upper torso/side frag protection, would be a no-brainer Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: Originally Posted By Easterner: This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as what's available. Soft ballistic panels are available for just about anywhere you want them. I only have the front crotch, rear lumbar, and the wrap around cumberbund. Supposedly will stop 9mm (level 1). Don't want to test it out. It really isn't much of a big addition in weight like hard plates are. These easily attach to the Velcro that holds the main plate opening shut. There are also shoulder pads, upper arms, neck, and upper legs. I have seen inserts that fit in elbows and knees. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20240111_190836_2_jpg-3090100.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20240111_192212_2_jpg-3090125.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20240111_190924_2_jpg-3090101.JPG Example: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/bronezhilet-warmor-4-klasc-zashchity-ves-3090148.JPG Seems like for the threats over there, a full wrap vest like IOTV that provides upper torso/side frag protection, would be a no-brainer Well the issued vest has soft panels that provide more frontal coverage and wrap around the sides. There is also a pocket front and back for hard plates. My buddy wears that vest without plates, and his regular carrier with plates on top of it. I found it too uncomfortable and prefer mine as pictured. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:09:41 PM EST
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:12:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: It’s on us too. We (some of us) elected poo-flinging chimps like MTG. Why are we always held to higher standards? The Dems elects hundreds to poo-flinging chimps. It's why we're in this current disaster. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:21:36 PM EST
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:27:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: I’ve read that the F16 as provided will be far superior to the decrepit MiG-29s but only peer with the Su-35 and its radar and missiles. And while any number is better than nothing, we are providing NONE and Europe a small number. Once you subtract the number needed for ongoing training and the average number down for maintenance it will be pretty small compared to the total aircraft Russia has deployed. Then factor in losses… They need 200 or more, not 40. They also need 310 Abrams, not 31. IMO, we need to shut the fuck up regarding what assistance is coming. What we or our allies donate should be a state secret. OPSEC is a thing. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:36:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: Capta]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Why are we always held to higher standards? The Dems elects hundreds to poo-flinging chimps. It's why we're in this current disaster. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Originally Posted By Capta: It’s on us too. We (some of us) elected poo-flinging chimps like MTG. Why are we always held to higher standards? The Dems elects hundreds to poo-flinging chimps. It's why we're in this current disaster. Who is winning and who is losing? I didn’t say they have to be nice, but they have to be competent. Democratic leadership in the House is quite obviously far more competent than Republican leadership. They have tighter control over their people and know how to close ranks. The Dems have their members too, who would like to throw Ukraine under the bus, but you don’t hear much from them. Why? Because their leadership told them to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. The Republican house was absolutely outmaneuvered by the dems, whose strategy was to hand the republicans all the rope they needed to hang themselves. “Look! It’s free rope!” And the so-called hard-core Republicans accepted it because they were too fucking stupid to figure that out. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:49:12 PM EST
[#32]
In the Middle East.
- COBRA emergency meeting of senior ministers was already held this morning, followed by a meeting of the National Security Council. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 1:52:28 PM EST
[#33]
About half way in the video you start to see DPICM coming in, then a Javelin shot that does a top down attack on a vehicle.
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:07:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: nraheston]
[#34]
In the Chernigov region, along the Desna, the current carried this very bridge, which until recently the Russian army used as a crossing.
Russian Tirada-2 orbital suppression of satellites was discovered by SOF operators |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:24:25 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: The cameras they are using are 350.00 on aliexpress. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC5ppfyWwAEIFf2?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC5rx5JXkAAy8nY?format=png&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC5r79mXQAAXnSU?format=jpg&name=medium
Video here of calibration:
Very nice, not all thermal systems are the same.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC6IO_xWQAASQr5?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC6I6bJXkAAE0ls?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC6MYJIXEAAZHNH?format=jpg&name=large The cameras they are using are 350.00 on aliexpress. @lorazepam Could IR cameras fulfill a similar role as drone night cameras for much less $$ ? |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:27:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: kpacman]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Why are we always held to higher standards? The Dems elects hundreds to poo-flinging chimps. It's why we're in this current disaster. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Originally Posted By Capta: It’s on us too. We (some of us) elected poo-flinging chimps like MTG. Why are we always held to higher standards? The Dems elects hundreds to poo-flinging chimps. It's why we're in this current disaster. Say what you will, for all the shit Nancy Pelosi has taken over the years, she kept all the D congressmen/women inside the guardrails. They acted as a team that drove their agenda. I have an R on my voter registration card, and it pains me to see the party of Ronald Reagan devolve to what it is now. They are like a bunch of feral cats with no clear agenda or will to govern. 2024 will not be good for them on the down ballot. Edit: Beat by Capta I see |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:27:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
[#37]
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:31:52 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: In the Middle East.
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:33:04 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: @lorazepam Could IR cameras fulfill a similar role as drone night cameras for much less $$ ? These little cameras are pretty amazing. They appear to be improving their implementation on the drones. I think they are awesome, I would not have imagined such tech available for that money 30 years ago. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:41:50 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: About half way in the video you start to see DPICM coming in, then a Javelin shot that does a top down attack on a vehicle.
I wonder what killed the lead tank? Mine? It makes me wonder if it was BONUS because there is a simultaneous explosion in the field behind. I think you can also see the tank commander blown out of the hatch and skipping through the field to the left front. That was a very nice view of a Javelin too. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:42:29 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: They also need 310 Abrams, not 31. IMO, we need to shut the fuck up regarding what assistance is coming. What we or our allies donate should be a state secret. OPSEC is a thing. No brainer I’ve seen articles on RT but around Christmas I saw a few articles in Chinese state media covering the aid situation. They’re definitely monitoring what’s happening too |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 2:48:03 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: The idea that Russia won't up their game when it comes to repair/replacement/new construction is naive. They have already placed their economy on a war footing, something the west has not embraced yet. We need to get motivated now. We are, at a minimum, two years behind the curve. If the western leaders had listened to the Kremlin's rhetoric and took the "little green men" seriously almost a decade ago, we could have demolished Russia's notion that they could conquer Ukraine in a sleepwalk. Instead, we are watching these animals butcher, rape and plunder their neighbors and we trickle support like it's blood donation, just enough to keep the patient alive, not enough to make them healthy. The gloves need to come off. We should start with Russia's far-flung proxies first. A MOAB or two on African mercenaries seems apropos. Once their longest tenacles have been severed, Syrian naval bases seem to be the next area of attention. Putin thinks he can do or say anything he likes, as if he has any sort of military capacity outside of his nuclear threat. He lacks everywhere, until he pushes the button. He should know, without any doubt, that once he goes nuclear, he, his family, his nation is doomed. Every western nation should deport every single Russian living abroad. We should do it now. No exceptions, no excuses, you are going back to Russia and your assets are forfeit. You home will be sold to finance the war in Ukraine. Cars and personal effects as well. Why are we harboring these expats? Do we honestly thing they are loyal to us? Even if some are, why would we give them the benefit of the doubt? Our embassy in Moscow (and any others in Russia) need to be abandoned and set on fire when we leave. I know intelligence is collected at these venues, but the truth has already been revealed and we are at war whether anybody else recognizes it or not. V. Putin should drink the funny tasting tea and the world will be a better place once he does.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:01:33 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: I’ve read that the F16 as provided will be far superior to the decrepit MiG-29s but only peer with the Su-35 and its radar and missiles. And while any number is better than nothing, we are providing NONE and Europe a small number. Once you subtract the number needed for ongoing training and the average number down for maintenance it will be pretty small compared to the total aircraft Russia has deployed. Then factor in losses… They need 200 or more, not 40. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Toybasher: Will the F-16 have a decent advantage over the MiG-29 Ukraine and Russia already use? I’m not an air power SME but my understanding is yes. Unfortunately the timeline and number of pilots and aircraft that should become available are limited. I believe Norway recently contributed 2 additional F-16s for the training last week. I’ve read that the F16 as provided will be far superior to the decrepit MiG-29s but only peer with the Su-35 and its radar and missiles. And while any number is better than nothing, we are providing NONE and Europe a small number. Once you subtract the number needed for ongoing training and the average number down for maintenance it will be pretty small compared to the total aircraft Russia has deployed. Then factor in losses… They need 200 or more, not 40. Most people don't understand the MiG-29, it's an air superiority fighter designed to defend places like cities or military installations, a fast and small but short range dog fighter. The F-16 evolved into a multi role fighter while the MiG-29 stayed basically the same with only small improvements. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:08:20 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Long term, keep an eye on German politics and economy. It may not become a problem but there are some potential concerns to keep an eye on to see if they become problems or fade and aren’t anything at all. For now that’s good news Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDgNf8OWIAAkUKv?format=jpg&name=large Long term, keep an eye on German politics and economy. It may not become a problem but there are some potential concerns to keep an eye on to see if they become problems or fade and aren’t anything at all. For now that’s good news AfD will win the next elections in the East German states. They are a far right party financed by Russia. In the same time the German economy is going down the drain. 
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:12:02 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: AfD will win the next elections in the East German states. They are a far right party financed by Russia. In the same time the German economy is going down the drain. I didn’t have enough info on those but yeah my impression was to keep an eye on Germany as they may have some economic troubles and a potential shift in support for Ukraine depending on election outcome. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:24:12 PM EST
[#46]
 Ukrainian forces deploy 'dragon teeth' line as focus shifts to defence |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:30:02 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Why are we always held to higher standards? The Dems elects hundreds to poo-flinging chimps. It's why we're in this current disaster. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Originally Posted By Capta: It's on us too. We (some of us) elected poo-flinging chimps like MTG. Why are we always held to higher standards? The Dems elects hundreds to poo-flinging chimps. It's why we're in this current disaster. I personally like being held to a higher standard in my work and personal life. Partly because I try to hold myself to that higher standard (and fail often) but also because I feel that others are recognizing that I'm simply capable of more. I want it to be the same in politics. In other words - if you elect a poo flinging chimp (Gaetz, MTG, or his/her ilk) you are just lowering yourself to the standards of a democrat retard that votes for AOC or any member of the "squad". They are both sides of the same coin. Aren't we better than that? |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:31:04 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: I didn’t have enough info on those but yeah my impression was to keep an eye on Germany as they may have some economic troubles and a potential shift in support for Ukraine depending on election outcome. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: AfD will win the next elections in the East German states. They are a far right party financed by Russia. In the same time the German economy is going down the drain. I didn’t have enough info on those but yeah my impression was to keep an eye on Germany as they may have some economic troubles and a potential shift in support for Ukraine depending on election outcome. I already mentioned this some times in this thread. The people in Germany are fed up with the "Ampel" government. They even started protesting.
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:33:45 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Russia doesn't have a big enough economy overall to support a full on war economy footing. Agreed. It's Italy with three times the population, pre-war. |
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Posted: 1/11/2024 3:34:20 PM EST
[#50]
 (I’d lower expectations a little)
Latvia will provide Ukraine with a new aid package that includes drones and ammunition …In addition to drones and 775 mm ammunition, Latvia will transfer howitzers, anti-tank weapons, rockets, grenades and helicopters. The package also includes communication devices, generators and equipment. Also, Latvia and Ukraine will sign memorandums on cooperation in the military sphere, in particular regarding the production of drones. In addition, the Latvian president announced an intergovernmental agreement on aid to Ukraine and recalled more than 500 million euros from Latvia for the three-year reconstruction program of the Chernihiv region. https://www.ostro.org/news/latviya-nadast-ukrayini-novyj-paket-dopomogy-u-yakomu-ye-drony-j-boyeprypasy-i455202 |
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