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Originally Posted By Capta: Wow, that takes trolling to all-new heights! I’ll say it again, I am dumbfounded that a supposedly professional navy is getting clowned this badly. Don’t even bring the “country without a navy” meme into it. The Ukrainians are straight-up humiliating the Black Sea Fleet. I really don’t think the Russian navy has the staff competence to counter. If there’s another side benefit for Ukraine, I hope that after the war they evaluate this campaign and decide they don’t need a navy of any serious proportions. They need to minmax their land and air forces. Closing the Black Sea and fucking up the Russian navy and Russian commercial shipping can be done more than adequately with aircraft/missiles/drones. A conventional navy of any size is something they don’t need. View Quote Agreed! |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1757824578452172814 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGUMBrRXkAAtjBR?format=png&name=medium Guessing cyber.
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1757824578452172814 CNN: One of the sources who has seen the intelligence confirmed that "it is, in fact, a highly concerning and destabilizing Russian capability that we were recently made aware of" Multiple sources familiar with the intelligence characterized the intelligence as “very sensitive.” https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGUMBrRXkAAtjBR?format=png&name=medium Guessing cyber.
The most disturbing thing to me is this is news to anyone in the intelligence community. Whatever the threat is. |
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“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.”
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Changing my guess to orbiting nuke. View Quote What does space have to do with you or me? Not one penny of my tax dollars to defend empty space when we have thousands of square miles of empty space right here in our country. —1D chess master, probably |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: GLSDB parts found in past week in Crimea.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGTuaNdXkAAucX2?format=jpg&name=small View Quote There was a report of parts found in Luhansk district as well. Nice they are getting dispersed along the entire line. |
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“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.”
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: There are a few toys we could employ. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/uzZ6MwWNsG6FdySFoqakFc-970-80.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Changing my guess to orbiting nuke. I have a feeling if that is true it will have some type of "glitch" soon. There are a few toys we could employ. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/uzZ6MwWNsG6FdySFoqakFc-970-80.gif LOL Return to sender, address is known.., 🎵 I was hoping you had some unclassified info to share on this! |
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“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.”
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„From a place you will not hear, comes a sound you will not see.“
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Originally Posted By UKjohn: Astap got his ass tapped View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UKjohn: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Got another Russian drone operation team.
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/201300/a8qPjv3_700b_jpg-3129107.JPG View Quote |
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By usptac: Sadly, there are mass graves all over Europe, full of the wrong people. by sherrick13 Shit, you Brits would stir shit up just to keep the others off balance. |
Originally Posted By ERNURSE: When Ukraine drops the bridge, they will have to make sure they destroy the pylons supporting the bridge. Just hitting the bridge deck is ok, but it can be patched. Dropping the support structure ensures a long time till it would be able to be used. View Quote Good point. Which is exactly what Taurus is designed to do. Send it, Mr Scholz! |
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“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.”
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"I do believe that some gun laws are needed and yes, I am a Republican" ~ tc556guy - NRA Member
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“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.”
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“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.”
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: How many of those boxcars are made of wood? A 19-mile-long fire would be impressive. View Quote A 30km-long line of burned out train car wrecks is still a 30km long barrier needing to be crossed. I guess they'd make worse concealment for enemy defenders if burned down to their frames and wheels, though. Also less overall weight to move when dragging aside to form localized breaches. |
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Slava Ukraini! "The only real difference between the men and the boys, is the number and size, and cost of their toys."
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Originally Posted By RockNwood: Good point. Which is exactly what Taurus is designed to do. Send it, Mr Scholz! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By ERNURSE: When Ukraine drops the bridge, they will have to make sure they destroy the pylons supporting the bridge. Just hitting the bridge deck is ok, but it can be patched. Dropping the support structure ensures a long time till it would be able to be used. Good point. Which is exactly what Taurus is designed to do. Send it, Mr Scholz! I wanted to correct something I and a couple of others have said. The Russians have more amphib ships than I noted. (Strikethroughs are confirmed destroyed, underline is severely damaged.) They started the war with the BSF having four Ropucha-class ships - Just before the war they brought in five Ropucha-class landing ships - Korolev, Thus their available fleet in Feb 2022 was 3 Alligators - one destroyed leaves 2 9 Ropuchas - three destroyed and one heavily damaged leaves 5 or 6 1 Ivan Gren - still one, no known attacks Russian sealift is more like 25-30% attritted, not 50%. |
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
View Quote Called it in the other thread. Russia is going to whipe it's ass with another arms treaty obligation and GD is so broken that people need to assume it ties in to some looney plot. |
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Just a stranger on the bus trying to find his way home.
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Please stay on topic- If you post presidential political topics in this thread, you will be banned from the discussion. If you want to discuss presidential politics, congressional spending, the boarder, go start a new thread, or post in the numerous ones already in GD.
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Note the date. |
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„From a place you will not hear, comes a sound you will not see.“
Thanks for the membership @ toaster |
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Note the date. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Note the date. Yeah, the idea goes back to the 60's https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3454/1 The first incident was in response to a June 1967 New York Times article reporting alleged Pentagon plans to develop a nuclear-tipped orbital ABM system. The State Department, who was generally tasked with interpretation of the treaty, stated internally that such a system would violate the treaty because it permanently stationed nuclear weapons in orbit, and it would be impossible to differentiate offensive from defensive orbiting nuclear weapons.2 The explicit inclusion of nuclear weapons in Article IV in addition to weapons of mass destruction prevented the introduction a loophole that the Joint Chiefs of Staff had sought in the 1963 statement in order to allow developing just such an ABM system.3 The second incident was in November 1967—a month after Congress ratified the treaty--when Secretary of Defense McNamara announced that the Soviets had tested a FOBS. The weapon consisted of a modified R-36 missile (the R-36ORB) that placed a two- to three-megaton warhead into an orbital trajectory over the southern hemisphere in order to evade US early warning radar (and possibly ABM) systems by flying lower and approaching from the south, using a retrorocket to de-orbit itself.4 When Secretary McNamara announced the tests, he argued that they did not violate the treaty because 1) they did not involve a warhead, so no nuclear weapon entered orbit; 2) the test vehicle was de-orbited before it achieved a full orbit; and 3) weapon development was not prohibited by the treaty.5 We have stupid prizes for stupid games, we invented this stuff. |
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Note the date. View Quote Hopefully we kept developing offensive and defensive satellite weapons after Reagan’s bluff. And if we have them we don’t wait around to find out when they will use theirs. |
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
View Quote Using nukes in space to kill satellites is akin to taking a shit in the pool to get rid of one kid you don't like. Yeah, shitting in the pool will make him leave, but nobody else, including you, is going to be swimming any time soon. The fact that this idea is an extremely reckless, irresponsible, and stupid plan in which everyone loses, is precisely what leads me to believe that this could very well be a legitimate Russian strategy. This is the sort of stuff that makes Russia dangerous. |
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One hundred idiots make idiotic plans and carry them out. All but one justly fail. The hundredth idiot, whose plan succeeded through pure luck, is immediately convinced he's a genius. |
I was wondering if there had ever been a nuclear test in space. Here is a tweet…
History if you will. The history of countries threatening to send nuclear weapons into space dates back to the Cold War era, primarily between the United States and the Soviet Union. During this period, both superpowers engaged in a space race, which led to various threats and concerns about the militarization of space. One notable example is the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, where the United States discovered Soviet missiles in Cuba, leading to a tense standoff. There were also discussions within both nations about the potential use of nuclear weapons in space as a show of force or as a strategic military option. In the 1980s, during the Reagan administration, the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), also known as "Star Wars," proposed the development of space-based missile defense systems, which further fueled concerns about the weaponization of space and the possibility of nuclear weapons being deployed in orbit. More recently, with the advancement of technology and the emergence of new space-faring nations, there have been discussions and debates about the potential risks and consequences of deploying weapons in space, including nuclear weapons. However, international treaties such as the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 aim to prevent the placement of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction in space. Has there been a nuclear explosion is space before? Starfish Prime was a high-altitude nuclear test conducted by the United States, a joint effort of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Defense Atomic Support Agency. It was launched from Johnston Atoll on July 9, 1962, and was the largest nuclear test conducted in outer space, and one of five conducted by the US in space. On July 9, 1962, at 09:00:09 Coordinated Universal Time (11:00:09 pm on July 8, 1962, Honolulu time), the Starfish Prime test was detonated at an altitude of 250 miles (400 km). While some of the energetic beta particles followed the Earth's magnetic field and illuminated the sky, other high-energy electrons became trapped and formed radiation belts around the Earth. In the months that followed these man-made radiation belts eventually caused six or more satellites to fail,[13] as radiation damaged their solar arrays or electronics, including the first commercial relay communication satellite, Telstar, as well as the United Kingdom's first satellite, Ariel 1. The Starfish test was one of five high-altitude tests grouped together as Operation Fishbowl within the larger Operation Dominic, a series of tests in 1962 begun in response to the Soviet announcement on August 30, 1961, that they would end a three-year moratorium on testing. The Starfish test was originally planned as the second in the Fishbowl series, but the first launch (Bluegill) was lost by the radar tracking equipment and had to be destroyed in flight. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Using nukes in space to kill satellites is akin to taking a shit in the pool to get rid of one kid you don't like. Yeah, shitting in the pool will make him leave, but nobody else, including you, is going to be swimming any time soon. The fact that this idea is an extremely reckless, irresponsible, and stupid plan in which everyone loses, is precisely what leads me to believe that this could very well be a legitimate Russian strategy. This is the sort of stuff that makes Russia dangerous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Using nukes in space to kill satellites is akin to taking a shit in the pool to get rid of one kid you don't like. Yeah, shitting in the pool will make him leave, but nobody else, including you, is going to be swimming any time soon. The fact that this idea is an extremely reckless, irresponsible, and stupid plan in which everyone loses, is precisely what leads me to believe that this could very well be a legitimate Russian strategy. This is the sort of stuff that makes Russia dangerous. Yeah, it would become a wasteland quickly to level the field. Hopefully we have kinetic and laser/energy beam or graboid satellites ready and waiting. |
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The two invaders who were carrying him managed to jump away from the drone. |
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“I don’t need a ride, I need more ammunition.”
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More info about Avdiivka push back…
but hit a wall when they tried to leapfrog to our main avenues—our artillery cut their reserves to shreds. We beefed up the flanks with infantry, just as urban warfare demands (not a simple feat in a cityscape unlike open fields where tanks could potentially block paths without countermeasures). Artillery and drones are in full swing here—essential, yet draining our ammo at an alarming rate. The 47th stands like a titan, teaching those bastards that daylight is their enemy, with our drones ready to pick them off. They’re petrified now. Southward, they’re hesitant to cross the ridge, preferring to exploit gains in the private sector. We need to sever this quickly; they’re dragging in more ATGMs and mining the area, complicating any expulsion efforts. We’re grinding them down, relentlessly. Slava 🔱 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Using nukes in space to kill satellites is akin to taking a shit in the pool to get rid of one kid you don't like. Yeah, shitting in the pool will make him leave, but nobody else, including you, is going to be swimming any time soon. The fact that this idea is an extremely reckless, irresponsible, and stupid plan in which everyone loses, is precisely what leads me to believe that this could very well be a legitimate Russian strategy. This is the sort of stuff that makes Russia dangerous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Using nukes in space to kill satellites is akin to taking a shit in the pool to get rid of one kid you don't like. Yeah, shitting in the pool will make him leave, but nobody else, including you, is going to be swimming any time soon. The fact that this idea is an extremely reckless, irresponsible, and stupid plan in which everyone loses, is precisely what leads me to believe that this could very well be a legitimate Russian strategy. This is the sort of stuff that makes Russia dangerous. I'm sure the Chinese will be thrilled to have their stuff knocked out by the Russians.
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Using nukes in space to kill satellites is akin to taking a shit in the pool to get rid of one kid you don't like. Yeah, shitting in the pool will make him leave, but nobody else, including you, is going to be swimming any time soon. The fact that this idea is an extremely reckless, irresponsible, and stupid plan in which everyone loses, is precisely what leads me to believe that this could very well be a legitimate Russian strategy. This is the sort of stuff that makes Russia dangerous. View Quote Everybody knows Russia can't develop tech better than the US, so denying our capability doesn't really cost them capability. So yes, it's a very Russian thing: 'if we can't use it, nobody can.' |
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Certainly puts Elon’s nuts in a vise among other things. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Please stay on topic- If you post presidential political topics in this thread, you will be banned from the discussion. If you want to discuss presidential politics, congressional spending, the boarder, go start a new thread, or post in the numerous ones already in GD. View Quote I understand to an extent, but presidential politics are already front and center in this issue. The Ukrainian aid bill and the course of the war is being determined in the US House due 100% to US presidential campaign politics. If congress votes for aid then that issue sort of ends, even if it does not end the NATO political issue regarding the war. Not sure what was deleted, but I don’t see how US politics can stay out of the thread with this being the case. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Bake it with high power microwave. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGVC2LfX0AAxzIG?format=jpg&name=900x900 View Quote NATO officers have said multiple times that Russia is mapping out European communications and US links to Europe. War is coming. |
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Originally Posted By Capta: NATO officers have said multiple times that Russia is mapping out European communications and US links to Europe. War is coming. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Bake it with high power microwave. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGVC2LfX0AAxzIG?format=jpg&name=900x900 NATO officers have said multiple times that Russia is mapping out European communications and US links to Europe. War is coming. Yeah, if the treaties are null, boy can we take the gloves off. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Yeah, if the treaties are null, boy can we take the gloves off. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Bake it with high power microwave. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGVC2LfX0AAxzIG?format=jpg&name=900x900 NATO officers have said multiple times that Russia is mapping out European communications and US links to Europe. War is coming. Yeah, if the treaties are null, boy can we take the gloves off. We won’t. The fox is in the hen house. |
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: We won’t. The fox is in the hen house. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Bake it with high power microwave. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGVC2LfX0AAxzIG?format=jpg&name=900x900 NATO officers have said multiple times that Russia is mapping out European communications and US links to Europe. War is coming. Yeah, if the treaties are null, boy can we take the gloves off. We won’t. The fox is in the hen house. Even the worst US president doesn't like the idea of getting nuked, or outsmarted by an adversary. There are things we can do, because these contingencies have been planned for. |
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Originally Posted By Capta: I wanted to correct something I and a couple of others have said. The Russians have more amphib ships than I noted. (Strikethroughs are confirmed destroyed, underline is severely damaged.) They started the war with the BSF having four Ropucha-class ships - Just before the war they brought in five Ropucha-class landing ships - Korolev, Thus their available fleet in Feb 2022 was 3 Alligators - one destroyed leaves 2 9 Ropuchas - three destroyed and one heavily damaged leaves 5 or 6 1 Ivan Gren - still one, no known attacks Russian sealift is more like 25-30% attritted, not 50%. View Quote Capacity wise greater than 30% |
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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Originally Posted By Capta: I understand to an extent, but presidential politics are already front and center in this issue. The Ukrainian aid bill and the course of the war is being determined in the US House due 100% to US presidential campaign politics. If congress votes for aid then that issue sort of ends, even if it does not end the NATO political issue regarding the war. Not sure what was deleted, but I don’t see how US politics can stay out of the thread with this being the case. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By guns762: Please stay on topic- If you post presidential political topics in this thread, you will be banned from the discussion. If you want to discuss presidential politics, congressional spending, the boarder, go start a new thread, or post in the numerous ones already in GD. I understand to an extent, but presidential politics are already front and center in this issue. The Ukrainian aid bill and the course of the war is being determined in the US House due 100% to US presidential campaign politics. If congress votes for aid then that issue sort of ends, even if it does not end the NATO political issue regarding the war. Not sure what was deleted, but I don’t see how US politics can stay out of the thread with this being the case. Any more domestic presidential politics, or congressional spending bills discussions will earn a thread ban. This thread is about the war in Ukraine. From the start, this thread has been exclusively about what happens there. We have worked to keep arguments about support of Russia or Ukraine out of this thread, and limit it to news about the war. There were numerous threads where you can bash Trump, Maga, Republicans, or their support for Ukraine. Don't bring those discussions here, or you will find yourself unable to participate. |
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„From a place you will not hear, comes a sound you will not see.“
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Originally Posted By guns762: Any more domestic presidential politics, or congressional spending bills discussions will earn a thread ban. This thread is about the war in Ukraine. From the start, this thread has been exclusively about what happens there. We have worked to keep arguments about support of Russia or Ukraine out of this thread, and limit it to news about the war. There were numerous threads where you can bash Trump, Maga, Republicans, or their support for Ukraine. Don't bring those discussions here, or you will find yourself unable to participate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By guns762: Please stay on topic- If you post presidential political topics in this thread, you will be banned from the discussion. If you want to discuss presidential politics, congressional spending, the boarder, go start a new thread, or post in the numerous ones already in GD. I understand to an extent, but presidential politics are already front and center in this issue. The Ukrainian aid bill and the course of the war is being determined in the US House due 100% to US presidential campaign politics. If congress votes for aid then that issue sort of ends, even if it does not end the NATO political issue regarding the war. Not sure what was deleted, but I don’t see how US politics can stay out of the thread with this being the case. Any more domestic presidential politics, or congressional spending bills discussions will earn a thread ban. This thread is about the war in Ukraine. From the start, this thread has been exclusively about what happens there. We have worked to keep arguments about support of Russia or Ukraine out of this thread, and limit it to news about the war. There were numerous threads where you can bash Trump, Maga, Republicans, or their support for Ukraine. Don't bring those discussions here, or you will find yourself unable to participate. So if, in the future, no more US 155mm, no more Patriot reloads, and no more GMLRS rockets are seen in Ukraine, what should we ascribe that to in order to avoid a ban? |
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Originally Posted By Capta: So if, in the future, no more US 155mm, no more Patriot reloads, and no more GMLRS rockets are seen in Ukraine, what should we ascribe that to in order to avoid a ban? View Quote A total newb with less than 20 posts jumped in the thread to shift this discussion to the special olympics that is congress. I am good with the thread ban. I have no issues with discussing the consequences of aid being stopped, but there are other threads to discuss how smart or stupid politicians and candidates are about aid packages. |
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: A total newb with less than 20 posts jumped in the thread to shift this discussion to the special olympics that is congress. I am good with the thread ban. I have no issues with discussing the consequences of aid being stopped, but there are other threads to discuss how smart or stupid politicians and candidates are about aid packages. View Quote Exactly, thank you. This is a better explanation. |
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Heads up Ukrainian air defense. Possible cruise missiles hours from now. 7 Tu-95's airborne.
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Here's a Russian Media Monitor bit that's worth watching. Sergey Karagamov is a scholar and think tank guy in Russia, so he's clearly very literate even though he's a Nazi scum, not one of our regular guests. He talks about the western/US retreat from Ukraine and Russian ascendancy, and theorizes on the significance of Tucker Carlson's interview. It's a very clear message that the only interaction that Russia responds to is superior force. He also repeatedly calls for Russia to escalate conflict to assure western retreat and Russian victory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL4Y2yJg9GA View Quote Yeah. All the lives extinguished for their idiotic war is just a "small sacrifice" to this asshole. Wait until they raise the conscription age to 80, then maybe he will change his mind. |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: A total newb with less than 20 posts jumped in the thread to shift this discussion to the special olympics that is congress. I am good with the thread ban. I have no issues with discussing the consequences of aid being stopped, but there are other threads to discuss how smart or stupid politicians and candidates are about aid packages. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Capta: So if, in the future, no more US 155mm, no more Patriot reloads, and no more GMLRS rockets are seen in Ukraine, what should we ascribe that to in order to avoid a ban? A total newb with less than 20 posts jumped in the thread to shift this discussion to the special olympics that is congress. I am good with the thread ban. I have no issues with discussing the consequences of aid being stopped, but there are other threads to discuss how smart or stupid politicians and candidates are about aid packages. Yeah, that guy was obviously here to troll. There’s a difference. Lots of hard discussions have been had in this thread and no one has been shy with the facts. |
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